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  • Report:  #210711

Complaint Review: Midwest Freight Lines / Midwest Freight Logistics - Liberty Missouri

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- Grandview, Missouri,
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Midwest Freight Lines / Midwest Freight Logistics
7600 S. Church Road Liberty, 64068 Missouri, U.S.A.
Phone:
816-781-5718
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June 29, 2006

During the course of my six-week employment with Midwest Freight Lines, I had numerous problems:

The truck broke down, or needed repairs NINE TIMES in six-weeks (fuel filter, starter, oil sensor, tire blowouts on EVERY trip, air conditioning breaking three times). There has NEVER been a single trip I have done where there was not an incident with the truck.

Other problems:

I repeatedly asked for an extra key for the truck.

I repeatedly asked them to buy some curtains for the bunk so I could have privacy to change my clothes, and privacy and to block out the light while I slept.

I have REPEATEDLY asked for my paychecks also, and they will not give them to me.

The people in the office will not hardly ever answer the phone when I call them. They are very unreliably unavailable. When they fail to answer the phone, I found that if I block my phone number so they don't know who is calling, usually someone will answer.

I told them two weeks ago that something is wrong with the brakes on the truck, and they never fixed the problem. I even gave them comments written on a work order by a mechanic that told them the brakes needed to be fixed - the potential problem of not fixing it was that the brakes could lock up.

All of my requests have been repeatedly disregarded and ignored.

Another problem occurred on the day of June 27, 2006 at the truck stop in Houston, Texas. I went over my fuel spending limit of $300, and the company would not pay the bill for the fuel I bought the night before because they were mad at me for going over my limit. Kindra decided to play manipulative control-freak games with me, and told me that I was going to have to sit there the rest of the day because I went over my fuel spending limit. The company kept telling people they did not have the money to pay the bill, and that they were ?waiting for a wire transfer to clear the bank?, and that they would call me and let me know when it cleared so I could pay for the fuel. They told people at the truck stop that money was on the way, but it was unavailable until the wire transfer cleared the bank. When 6pm came around and they had not called me, I knew something was wrong because wire transfers would have cleared by the time the bank closed that day.

Because the bill had not been paid since I got the fuel from the night before, the truck stop starting telling me that I was responsible for the $660 fuel bill if the company didn't pay for it, and that I couldn't leave until it was paid. They were threatening to call the police on me too.

When 6pm came around, and the fuel bill was not paid, I went inside the truck stop and spoke to the manager. I told him that the company was not telling the truth about not having any money; that they were just playing games because they were mad that I went over my spending limit for the day. So the manager was nice enough to take some phone numbers I gave him, and call some people at the office. I don't know who he spoke to, but whoever it was, when the manager said the truck was going to be impounded if they didn't pay for the fuel, guess what?.....as soon as he hung the phone up, the bill was paid!!!! All the sudden, THEY HAD MONEY!!!

I went to Midwest Freight Lines to WORK ? not to play GAMES!

The bill got paid, and I waited for MFL to call and dispatch me. They never called me that night. In fact, they never called me the very next day. There were no missed calls or messages on the cell phone they gave me to use. They also knew my personal cell phone number, and there weren't any missed calls or messages left on my phone from them that day either, or for the following two days. They never called me and asked where the truck was. But instead, they assumed the truck was stolen and called the police, while the whole time the truck was right on their lot!

When the truck stop started threatening to call the police on me and put me in jail, and threatened to make me pay for the $660 fuel bill, that's when I decided it was time for me to quit this company. This isn't the first time I had to sit around waiting for their wire transfers to clear the bank so I could pay for fuel or for truck repairs.

When the truck breaks down, such as it did in Houston on June 26, and I needed a tire late at night, I knew I wouldn't be able to get a hold of anybody, based on their unreliable unavailability in the past. So I tried to make the best decision I could and got the tire fixed so all I had to do in the morning was call the office and tell them how much it was, get the tire paid for, and I could be on my way to make my delivery and my next pick-up without any further delays. I was only trying to keep the flow moving so I could get home and get the A/C fixed, and they got mad that I didn't call them at three in the morning and tell them I was getting a tire. Why would I call them at three in the morning when they hardly ever answer the phone during the daytime??? I get really tired of calling these people, chasing them down, and nobody answering the phone. I get to the point where I don't want to try any more. I have tested them several times to see how many times I had to call them before someone would answer. A few times I called them about 30 times (literally), and NOBODY ANSWERED! ? the calls went straight to voice mail! They don't answer, or they shut the phone off and all I get is voice mail. The people at the truck stop in Houston had the same problems when they tried calling the company about getting the fuel bill paid.

On a separate occasion on 6-6-06, when I couldn't pay for the fuel in Foristell, Missouri because another driver went over his spending limit, which made all the other drivers not have money to pay for their fuel; I was very upset because of all the other problems that had already transpired with breakdowns, and my repeated requests being ignored. So I told Kindra that I just wanted to go home when they couldn't pay the fuel bill. I was TIRED of all the problems this company has. I was only three hours away from the office, and I SHOULD HAVE turned that truck around then and gone home, because that trip was a trip FROM HELL; it was problem after problem. When I told Kindra I just wanted to go home, she began threatening me saying ?if you do, then I will hit your DAQ Report so hard, that you will NEVER be able to work again!? Kindra has repeatedly made threatening comments to me, and played manipulative, coercing, control-freak games with me.

[A DAQ Report is like a credit report that truck driving companies use. The Report tells companies everything about you: your driving record, your current and previous addresses, unpaid tickets, accidents, if you have ever abandoned a truck, been arrested, etc. It's very invasive and intrusive; it gives the employee no privacy.]

As I said, about three weeks ago, when I couldn't pay for the fuel I bought in Foristell, Missouri because another driver went over his spending limit, and money wasn't available for me to pay for my fuel, I ended up spending the whole entire day at the truck stop in Foristell, Missouri. And then the next day I spent the whole entire day in Franklin, Tennessee where I had to get truck repairs done. The mechanics were finished fixing the truck within two hours, but Midwest Freight Lines couldn't pay the bill until 5pm that day because they didn't have the money, and they were waiting for a wire transfer; or so I was told. So I lost two whole entire days because of their stupid wire transfers.

Furthermore, the air-conditioning broke down for the third time since I've been driving this truck. Kindra would not let me get it fixed, and I was suffering in 110 degree weather in California and in Houston while I was driving all day long, and when I was trying to go sleep. I could not get any sleep because it was unbearably hot! And I had to keep the windows open which scared me a lot, because I didn't know if someone was going to try and get inside the truck in the middle of the night and rob me or rape me because I couldn't close the windows because there was no AIR-CONDITIONING.

I think it is very sadistic of Kindra to not allow me to get the air-conditioning fixed, knowing how hot it was. I don't think Kindra cares. She got to go home and lay in her nice comfy cozy bed without sweating in tumultuous heat and get her rest she needed at night while I was suffering in the heat and couldn't get any sleep.

After the company had finally paid their bill for the fuel I bought from the night before, and after Kindra's threatening manipulative control-freak comments to me that I was going to ?sit there all day?, I was afraid that they would made me stay in Houston the rest of the week. This may be true, because all day the next day, they never called me a single time to dispatch a load to me.

Because of all the problems I have listed, and ESPECIALLY because I had no air-conditioning, and they would not pay the fuel bill and lied that they didn't have the money to pay it, but just wanted to play dishonest manipulative CONTROL-FREAK games with me, I drove the truck home from Houston, and left it in their yard. I'm not going to pay someone else's business expenses or be put in jail for them not wanting to pay their bills. So when someone starts doing that to me, that's when I have to make decisions in order to protect myself.

I have NEVER ever, under any circumstances, EVER driven a truck home with any other company I have worked for. If Kindra hadn't been playing manipulative control-freak games with me and my life, I would never have left Houston and driven the truck home. All I can say, is that MFL brought this on themselves. If they had've fixed the air-conditioning so I was suffering from the heat, and so I could get some sleep, and if they had paid their fuel bill instead of lying that they had no money and getting me in trouble with the truck stop, and if they hadn't been playing manipulative CONTROL-FREAK games with me, I never would have driven the truck back to Kansas City from Houston, Texas. I only did it because of Midwest Freight Lines hostile work environment.

As I stated already, I have REPEATEDLY asked for my paychecks also, and they will not give them to me. They keep telling me that Larry has them, and nobody else can give me my paychecks. When I go into the office, LARRY IS NEVER THERE!!! And when I call Larry, HE NEVER ANSWERS THE PHONE!!! This company has my address, but they won't mail my checks to me. I have received only ONE PAYCHECK since I have started working for them! Getting paychecks from MFL is like pulling teeth!

But anyway, these are my complaints against this company.

Sincerely,

Tammy Davis

Payday was July 7, and as of today, July 14, 2006, I have not received my paycheck!

July 14, 2006: I went to MFL today around 1pm to get my paycheck. They still would not give it to me. I had a long conversation with Kendra. She was being verbally abusive with me, calling me ?stupid?. She told me she hit my DAQ Report, and that she wasn't ?through with me yet? ? whatever that means!

She also told me that she had intentions of making me sit in Houston until she felt like letting me leave. That could have possibly been the rest of the week, for all I know! Afterall, they never called me to dispatch me for two days! Her childish, manipulative, malicious actions scared me, and they are the reason I drove the truck home. Not only that, I could not longer stay in a truck with no A/C in 100 degree temperatures and not get any sleep at night, and being unable to leave the windows closed for my own personal safety at night.

Before I even accepted the job, Kendra told me that MFL does not charge drivers for damages done to the truck. Now they are trying to charge me for the scuffed up bumper, and for supposed damage done to the axle on the trailer when the tire on the truck blew out ? they claim the tire came off the truck and wrapped itself around the axle. I never saw this when I looked at the truck. They could have wrapped an old tire around the truck themselves for all I know.

Kendra has been consistently threatening and verbally abusive in her comments toward me. She is malicious, manipulative, vindictive, and a control-freak. She tries to use manipulation and intimidation to control people and bully them around.

MFL is are angry that I drove the truck home from Houston, and now they are being vindictive and they are retaliating against me by hitting my DAQ report so I can never get a job again (defamation, libel, slander, and defamation of character), withholding my paycheck, and not giving me all the money they owe me, just because they don't like what I did.

I want a restraining order on these people before they cause me any more harm or damage.

Kenny told me in his office on July 7, that I was a good driver ? until the very end. I suppose what he meant by ?the very end? is because I drove the truck home without a load. I had no choice ? I decided to quit the job. I HAD to return their equipment. The only way to return it was to drive it home. The only other option available to me was to leave their truck in Houston, and I didn't want to do that because they would have hit my DAQ report for abandoning the truck.

Now MFL is being malicious, vindictive and retaliating against me for doing this.

Can you hit MFL for Slander, Libel, Extortion, Defamation of Character, Retaliation, and Harassment, as well as slap a fine on them for withholding my paycheck?

6/6/06

Could not pay for the fuel I bought because Kendra said another driver got too much fuel, and I had to wait for a wire transfer to clear, so she could put money on my card to pay for the fuel. She told me I would receive detention pay. I did not get paid for my time. I sat at the truck stop from 9am to 4pm.

6/7/06

Truck broke down in Franklin, Tennessee. By the time I to a shower and came back out, the mechanics were finished replacing the starter and fixing the A/C. But again, MFL did not have any money to pay for the repairs. Again, I had to sit all day at the truck stop and wait for another wire transfer. Two days of driving lost because of their stupid wire transfers! Kendra told me I was getting aid for my time. I was not paid.

I started out loading at Excel in Kansas City, Missouri. I picked up a load of Harely Davidson motorcycles. I had 14 stops, the first originating in Franklin, Tennessee, and the last one ending in Savannah, Georgia. I was supposed to be paid for 13 stops at a rate of $25 each which equals $325. I did not get paid for this either.

My total trip miles (with deadhead miles included) from Excel in Kansas City to my last stop in Savannah, Georgia was 1885 miles.

Another problem is Kendra told me upon my hire that I was going to be paid .35 a mile, but my paycheck says I am being paid only .34.

For this trip I need to be paid for:

2 DAYS DETENTION pay sitting at truck stops waiting for wire transfers to clear. They never told me how much my detention pay was supposed to be when I asked them about it.

1885 x .35mile = $659.75

Plus 13 stops = $325.00

$984.75

I took a $40 cash advance.

But I used only $21.28 of it to pay for:

Cell phone charger ($7.44)

Log Book ($5.34)

Scale (8.50)

Next trip: Savannah, Georgia > San Antonio, TX = 1256 miles x .35 = $439.60

Next trip: San Antonio, TX > Yuma, AZ = 1669 miles x .35 = $584.15

I made 3 stops, but they pay for only 2, so that would be = $ 50.00

Broke down because tires blew out. Replaced them in Austin (4 hours).

Next trip: Yuma, AZ > Manteca = 316 miles x .35 = $110.60

PLUS DETENTION TIME ? 11.5 HOURS = $ ????

I picked up a load of watermelons. The broker told MFL and me the load was ready. But when I got there, the load was NOT ready. So the broker and MFL agreed to pay me detention time.

Next trip: Martinez > Norman, OK = 1723 miles x. 35 = $603.05

Next trip: Norman, OK > Houston, TX = 455 miles x .35 = $159.25

these TOTAL = $1946.65

PLUS trip to Savannah, GA (amount includes 13 stops) = $ 984.75

$2927.68

FINAL AMOUNT DUE FOR THESE TRIPS (minus $3.72 for what was left over from the cash advances I used for their business expenses = $2927.68

This amount does not reflect 3 days detention pay I was supposed to receive, so the amount due is actually greater than what is stated, but MFL never told me how much detention pay is, so I cannot add it in to the final amount.

There are problems on ALL my paychecks I received, such as not being paid for deadhead miles, and the total miles I was paid is not accurate. I also used my own money for their business expenses, and have not been paid back.

On all these trips, I took a combined total of $200 cash advances.

I spent $196.28 of the cash advances on tolls, scales, NM permits, log books, and a cell phone charger for the phone they gave me to use. So the remaining amount from the cash advances would be $3.72, which I kept.

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I AM WRITING THIS PART ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2006.

My attorney found out that Midwest Freight Lines is not even licensed to do business in the state of Missouri.

I met with Kenny Wilson at my attorney's office on Friday, September 8, 2006 to settle this issue of my unpaid wages. I arrived early at 12:30pm for a 1:00pm appointment. I guess Kenny Wilson decided he had more important things to do than to have the courtesy and respect to show up on time to pay me. He did not arrive until after 4:30pm!

After he finally showed up, we talked for about a half hour, and came to an agreement that he would pay me, would not withhold any money from my paycheck for so-called ?damages? I supposedly did to the truck, that I would pay only half of the fuel (even though I did not like that agreement), that he would pay the ticket for non-registration on the truck (which he SAID he mailed several dozen times but the court has not received payment as of yet! [September 12, 2006])?.and we had an agreement to meet on Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 4:00pm to give me my paycheck.

On Tuesday, September 12, I arrived at Midwest Freight Lines office EXACTLY at 4pm, and when I walked through the door, I was told that Kenny was not there ? that he was at the dentist! So I did not get a paycheck today as promised.

It's the middle of the month - 2.5 months after I resigned from this sucky company - and STILL --- NO PAYCHECK!!!!!

There is a repetitive pattern from people in this company of being exceedingly inconsiderate, irresponsible and disrespectful of me and my time.

It takes me at least 40 minutes one-way for me to drive to their office. I have made at least 5 trips up there and back home now at my own expense to get my paycheck. Every single time I have gone to the office, they conveniently don't have it. I have spent countless hours and gasoline chasing these people down to get my money. I have also burned up many minutes on my own cell to call the court, babysitting Midwest Freight Lines, to see if did what they SAID they were going to do ? PAY THE $186 TICKET on THEIR truck that was not registered while I was driving it!

I have spent COUNTLESS hours of MY OWN time, and in gasoline trying to make these people pay me from the day I quit my job in June. I already worked my butt off to earn my money. Now I am having to work, and even spend my own money in gas, attorney's, cell phone minutes, etc TO GET THE MONEY I EARNED, because these inconsiderate, irresponsible, selfish people can't be respectful, responsible, or considerate enough to pay their employees when they are due a paycheck!

I have given them chance after chance, after chance, after chance, after chance, and all they do is slap me in the face every single time! ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS HURT ME! All they care about IS THEMSELVES! These people are EXTREMELY selfish, evil and wicked people. If you are looking into working for this company or doing business with them, go somewhere else?.it's not worth the stress, the aggravation, and the hardship.

They obviously don't care what hardships and problems they have, or are causing me by not paying me for all this time?.what their excuses are?.I don't know, and I really don't care. There ARE NO EXCUSES for not paying an employee their wages!

They have not only hurt me, but they have hurt other people in my life whom I have not been able to pay because Midwest Freight Lines keeps playing childish, inconsiderate, irresponsible games with me. All I can say is, this world would be a much better place without people like them!

If Kenny Wilson had done what he promised to do at 4pm today (September 12, 2006), I would not have posted this complaint on RipOffReport.com. But I am waaaay beyond fed up with these people now. I've been fed up with them for a long time, but I have now gone passed my limits on the tolerance and patience scale. They've pushed me waaaaay too far!

Tammy

Grandview, Missouri
U.S.A.


74 Updates & Rebuttals

Another One Screwed Over

KCMO,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Midwest Freight Logistics Kenny Wilson back in business and running Liberty Auto Worx- BEWARE!

#2Consumer Suggestion

Fri, December 19, 2008

Ken Wilson is now back in business and running Liberty Auto Worx, 1114 Southview Drive Suite G Liberty MO Shop Phone# (816)429-7415 and is also back involved with Twin Cities Trucking.


Thegreatgumball

Kansas City,
Kansas,
U.S.A.
Nah dyke! Taste the Rainbow

#3UPDATE EX-employee responds

Tue, November 06, 2007

Dear Tammy, Maybe if you had an IQ higher than that of a rock, you might understand how a job in the real world really works. I have known the owners of this company for over 6 years and have worked for them for 2. Funny you say you never got paid for any of your runs because they have paid, to an extent over-paid me for work completed. However, on the other hand you can't expect to be paid for a job you don't complete. Dumping a truck in another companies parking lot is not properly completing your job. Quite frankly, I'm sick to my stomach reading all the non-sense you have posted on here. Have you nothing better to do than sit here and complain about things that aren't even true? Last time I checked, I have never known a business that pays employees for getting on sites like these and talking to people you don't even know. If you know of one, be sure to let me know, I would LOVE to work for them!! You can expect that sometime in the near future there will be lawsuits filed for both libel, slander, and defamation of character. Have a wonderful day! God Bless!! Sincerely, A Satisfied Employee!!


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Oct 31st court date

#4Author of original report

Wed, October 24, 2007

Okay, thanks for the info....but what court is it at? The one in Liberty?


X-wife #2 Of Kenny Wilson

Kansas City,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Kenny Wilson's current place of employment and details about his Oct 31st court date

#5Consumer Suggestion

Sun, October 21, 2007

Tammy and everyone else that is owed money: Kenny is employed at Todd's team auto in Olate KS, however apparently he answers the phone so he will lie about it. His son, Danel also works there. Try contacting the owner directly, Todd Kirtchovang. He is friends with Kenny so there is the possibility he will cover for him. But, it is true, he is still working there. Try to get a garnishment against his paycheck. Or just show up there and catch him working the shop. Also, his court date for felony checks is Wed, Oct 31st in Division 32 with Judge Robert Trout. He is a repeat offender of hot checks. I would recommend showing up in court and requesting to speak to the judge to let him know you are also owed money from hot checks. Let him know Kenny has a 10+ year history of passing felony checks. He needs to be held responsible for the way he treats people. These might be checks that he owes for payroll? Not sure. kenny's cell phone number is 816-585-6818. Good luck collecting. I am still trying to collect for money he owes me that is being garnished from my paycheck bi-weekly for a surgery he had in 1995 and is court ordered to pay me. I have not collected a dime from that bum. Instead I have paid about $8K and still owe at least $3K that is garnished from my check. I don't understand how someone can have a clear conscious knowing that someone else is paying their debt and that someone else is the mother of his child that should have that money to raise that child and not pay his bills! Kenny has never paid a dime for his youngest son's expenses. But he sure has money for ciggerrettes, beer, gas, cable TV and to take out his new fat girlfriend!! I can't wait until he screws her over like he did me. I tried to warn her but she beleives his lies as he has convinced her I am lying! Oh well- I guess he found someone else to pay his way through life. Lucky her! Good luck to all of you and I hope you get paid. Show up in court and maybe as a repeat offender the judge will throw him in jail where he belongs! Good luck! X-wife#2


X-wife #2 Of Kenny Wilson

Kansas City,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Tammy, Look again and check CASENeT.com for a new court date that might help you

#6Consumer Suggestion

Mon, October 08, 2007

Tammy, Check again. I think you may find him there. Also- if you do a search on CASENET.com you will find that Kenny has a court date on Oct 31st for FELONY checks. You might want to show up as one of them might be money you are trying to get paid on? Good luck!


X-wife #2 Of Kenny Wilson

Kansas City,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Kenny's where abouts

#7UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, September 07, 2007

Tammy, It appears he is no longer at that place of employement. Appears he has long moved on. I checked with the person that had told me he was working there and apparently that was nearly 6 months ago, so the information was old (sorry, I did not know that). Likely the person answering the phone did not know him when he worked there if it was long ago? If I hear where he went to I will gladly post it. Likely moved on to another trucking company. I would also suggest trying to collect from Tri-City, as they where responsible for the debt once they changed their name from MFL to Tri-City. Kenny left when they split to Tri-City so truely Tri-City owes you and you likely need to try to collect from them. Good luck


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
To: X-wife #2

#8UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, September 07, 2007

X-Wife....I called 411 information and got this phone number for Todds Team Auto: (913) 782-1615 When I called them asking if Kenny works there, the guy said "no"....and when I asked if Kenny Wilson EVER worked there, the guy told me "no" to that question too; then I asked if I was calling "Todds Team Auto" and he said "yes"....so the person who answered the phone is either lying to protect Kenny, or he's telling the truth. I don't know which, unless I drive down there myself. So do you have an address or another phone number? Can you tell me if this is the correct phone number? ....sorry you got screwed and hurt too.


X-wife #2 Of Kenny Wilson

Kansas City,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Feedback on how to find Kenny Wilson from X-wife #2 who has also been screwed financially

#9Consumer Suggestion

Tue, September 04, 2007

report # #210711 I am the second wife of Kenny Wilson who also screwed me over financially. We where seperated from June 2005 and finally divorced in March 2007. We seperated after I learned he took my personal credit cards without my consent and maxed them out on expenses for his business. Between 2005 and 2007 I learned my house was in foreclosure, he was not paying his employees, he was totally irresponsible with all financials and I basically was screwed with much of his debt which he is court ordered to pay to me and has yet to do so. To find him or garnish his check he is now working at Todds Team Auto in Olathe, KS. Feel free to garnish his check as my paycheck is currently being garnished for a hospital bill from 1996 that was HIS bill that he has refused to pay, even though we are divorced. Kenny is a chronic liar and a cheater as he is now screwing my friend of 12 years and raping her for money too!


X-wife #2 Of Kenny Wilson

Kansas City,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Feedback on how to find Kenny Wilson from X-wife #2 who has also been screwed financially

#10Consumer Suggestion

Tue, September 04, 2007

report # #210711 I am the second wife of Kenny Wilson who also screwed me over financially. We where seperated from June 2005 and finally divorced in March 2007. We seperated after I learned he took my personal credit cards without my consent and maxed them out on expenses for his business. Between 2005 and 2007 I learned my house was in foreclosure, he was not paying his employees, he was totally irresponsible with all financials and I basically was screwed with much of his debt which he is court ordered to pay to me and has yet to do so. To find him or garnish his check he is now working at Todds Team Auto in Olathe, KS. Feel free to garnish his check as my paycheck is currently being garnished for a hospital bill from 1996 that was HIS bill that he has refused to pay, even though we are divorced. Kenny is a chronic liar and a cheater as he is now screwing my friend of 12 years and raping her for money too!


X-wife #2 Of Kenny Wilson

Kansas City,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Feedback on how to find Kenny Wilson from X-wife #2 who has also been screwed financially

#11Consumer Suggestion

Tue, September 04, 2007

report # #210711 I am the second wife of Kenny Wilson who also screwed me over financially. We where seperated from June 2005 and finally divorced in March 2007. We seperated after I learned he took my personal credit cards without my consent and maxed them out on expenses for his business. Between 2005 and 2007 I learned my house was in foreclosure, he was not paying his employees, he was totally irresponsible with all financials and I basically was screwed with much of his debt which he is court ordered to pay to me and has yet to do so. To find him or garnish his check he is now working at Todds Team Auto in Olathe, KS. Feel free to garnish his check as my paycheck is currently being garnished for a hospital bill from 1996 that was HIS bill that he has refused to pay, even though we are divorced. Kenny is a chronic liar and a cheater as he is now screwing my friend of 12 years and raping her for money too!


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
To Iceman and Lady Luck

#12Author of original report

Tue, August 14, 2007

Whoever you guys are, thank you for the updates. ...did you work for these trailer trash people, Lady Luck? Even if you did, I'm sure you wouldn't say, would you? I bet Jesse molested his own children! Are his kids even still living with him, or did child protective services take them away? I hope the rest of the gang (Kenny and Kindra) gets busted for all the bad checks they wrote people, and for all the people they did not pay, and put 'em ALL in jail - pile more charges on them besides the child prostitution! I'll be back on their a%s soon, trying to get the rest of the money they owe me...they alluded me twice, but people greatly under-estimate me; I don't give up THAT easily! I'm not sure how Iceman would have handled being in this situation any differently or any better than I did. I don't know any other way to go about it, and I honestly think I went about it the right way. Because now there is even more dirt for the media to dig up on the internet about Jesse Herd because I posted this report several months ago about his company. Oh, by the way...one of my friends is a coach too, and I showed him the video about Jesse that was posted by Lady Luck, and my friend said he recognized Jesse's face. I think I'm going to make a copy of that video and post it on YouTube, just in case the video gets deleted from the original web page.


Lady Luck

Raytown,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Twin Cities Trucking - Address

#13Consumer Comment

Sun, August 12, 2007

With the information provided by Iceman I have found the new company that Jesse Head is now running in Topeka KS. The company name is Twin Cities Trucking LLC. The address is 7215 SW Topeka Blvd, Topeka KS 66619. Phone number is 785-862-1460. I found this on Yellowpages. For future victims you can reference the following for those crimes they will commit because they can't help themselves you can contact the Shawnee County, Kansas District Attorney for this business location at www.shawneecourntyda.org. They deserve everything they get. Don't let them get away with a thing.


Iceman

Kansas City,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Jesse & Kindra Herd in Topeka, KS

#14Consumer Comment

Sat, August 11, 2007

These people have lost their minds, completely. I don't doubt Tammy for one second, although I can't say I would have handled it the same way. Look for Twin Cities in warehouse #3 at Forbes Field. Jesse is out on 20K bail, 10% of the 200K bond. Looking at 10 to life for taking a 14 year old girl across state lines for the purpose of prostituting her. Jesse used to be the girls softball coach. Quite the pimp. Jesse and Kindra live off Parrallel Parkway in Kansas City, KS. Right behind the Kansas Speedway. My experience with them is one for the record books, I never actually worked for them though. I can't really say anymore about that until after I talk with the Shawnee County District Attorney's office. Hi LadyLuck, I think we've met.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Jesse Herd - in Jail Now

#15Author of original report

Fri, August 10, 2007

Now I'm curious...he can't pay any of his employees, but he somehow managed to come up with $200,000 to post bond!!!??? How'd he do that? Something does not jive here. Usually you never know about or see the person who hurt you get what is due them. Alot of people have screwed me big time out of ALOT LOTTA money and hurt me really bad. Finally....I get to see one of these people get what they deserve. He'll now have alot of time in prison to think about all the people he hurt. I knew he and/or his business partners would end up in jail eventually, but I never thought it would be for this! WoW! And imagine...he was doing this when I was working for him! OMG!


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
TO "LADY LUCK" re: Jesse Herd Indicted On 12 Counts

#16Author of original report

Fri, August 10, 2007

Whoooooohooooooo! That's WONDERFUL! YES! YES! YES! AaaaaahahahahahROFLoL! LMAO! I hope they put him away FOR LIFE and that they suffer as much pain as they caused everyone else! I bet Kindra isn't laughing anymore! I would have loved to be at his arraignment and laugh right in his face and in Kindras face, those evil, evil, EVIL people! God lifted their skirts. Yeeeehaaaaaw! THANK YOU Lady Luck for posting this wonder news. I would have never known about it if you had not submitted your rebuttal. Now all the people who said nasty things to me on this thread can eat their words! Hahahahahaha!


Lady Luck

Raytown,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Jesse Herd Indicted On 12 Counts - Check your employer out throughly

#17Consumer Comment

Wed, August 08, 2007

KMBC-TV 9 website has a story dated June 22, 2007 on Jesse Herd one of the owners of this company has been indicted on 12 counts. He is accused of taking a minor across state lines for sex crimes. The crimes allegedly took place from July 2005 to February 2007 and the counts list the same girl. The article link is http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/13552883/detail.html. Or you might just want to do a search on the internet for their name. My father-in-law is currently trying to collect his pay check. I didn't realize that you should research the owners of the company you plan to work for, but some of the best lessons learned are the one learned the hard way. Anyone working for this company or considering working for this company should be cautious and protect your self. They have bad karma and will eventually receive what they deserve.


Mike

Overland Park,
Kansas,
U.S.A.
I to worked for Kindra and Jesse Herd

#18UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, June 10, 2007

worked for Twin Cities Trucking which is also Midwest Frieght Lines for 6 weeks. When I started I thought Kindra and Jesse Herd were nice people, (I have never been more wrong in my life). Thier trucks are dangerous (they wanted me to drive from Topeka KS to Michagan with a trailer that has cracked drums pieces missing out of drums, breaks that were no good, one completly not working. The truck leaking oil( had to put 2 gallons of oil in every day). Leaking air, wheel seal out, no ac, clutch needed to be replaced, and 8 bald tires. When I first started with Twin Cities I was teaming with my dad we ran 4000 miles and my paycheck was only $370.00 (that was the highest check I recevied) I went solo thinking I could make more money by myself I was so wrong. I went from Savanna Ga to Yacima Wa a trip that was over 2800 miles. On this trip My truck broke down with a major engine problem. Kindra and Jesse put me up in a hotel with my dog for a couple of days. They then flew me home. I told Jesse since I have my dog just send ethier my dad or my friend to come and get me. Jesse said he wanted to fly me home. I was not able to bring my dog with me on the plan because he does not like new people. I had to leave him in Wa with the manager at the hotel. I came home and they wanted me to go to Michagin not Washington to get my dog. I found out on the Michigan trip that my dog (my best friend) died. I would still have him if they just sent someone to come get me. I received my paycheck for the Washington trip and it was $67.32. They said the trip was only 1400 miles not over 2800 miles. The paycheck for the Michagain trip was $32.37. The gross was $274.14 they put my federal taxes at 33.5% which was $91.00 all toghter the taxes came to $171.00 for a $274.14 gross check, how can that be? The check he gave me was not singed so I had to run to the truck stop on the Turnpike to meet him and have it signed. He then told me he did the wire transfere late so the check might not be able to be cashed. I went to his bank and they told me they could not cash the check becasue there was not enough money in the account. I had to go to the dillons on Shawnee Mission Parkway to get cash for the check. I spent $20.00 in gas driving around to meet them for my pay. I talked to Jesse and told him my check is wrong he said he would look at it. The next day Kindra called me to tell me to call Jesse. I called Jesse and he said the check was right. How can that be $171.00 in taxes for $274.14 gross? I quit that day and got another job. No more being screwed over in pay.


Mike

Overland Park,
Kansas,
U.S.A.
Tammy and Diane I too worked for Midwest Frieght Lines. I have some info that you both need to know.

#19UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, June 10, 2007

Kindra and Jesse Herd operate a company called Twin Cities. I have their address and phone #s I would like to speak with you Thank you CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
TO: Diane in VISALIA, California

#20Author of original report

Sun, May 20, 2007

Sorry Diane...I wish I had something else to tell you, but I have not heard anything new. Since MFL is going bankrupt, I am guessing it's too late for you or anyone else to get your money from them. The best you can do is hope a suicide bomber blows himself up while standing next to Kenny Wilson, Kendra or Jeff or that a plane crashes into their house. How did you get hooked up with a small company in Kansas City anyway when you live in California?


Diane

VISALIA,
California,
U.S.A.
Have you heard anything more

#21UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, May 18, 2007

Tammi have you found out anything more? Or should I just hang it up and move on?


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Diane - VISALIA, California

#22Author of original report

Thu, May 03, 2007

Well, I just talked got off the phone with someone who took MFL to court in Liberty, MO. He told me MFL told him they were going bankrupt. He also said MFL took a truck to a mechanic who did $23,000 worth of repair work on the truck(s), and then MFL refused to pay the bill. So MFL screwed the mechanic too! All I can say is...work for a LOCAL company. Not for one that is out of state. As an employee I know that State laws can't do much to help you with problems that occur with INTERSTATE companies. But if you work for a company within your own state, then the state has ways to enforce it's own state laws. The same would also apply to independent contractors.


Diane

VISALIA,
California,
U.S.A.
THANX TAMMI

#23UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, May 03, 2007

TAMMI THANK YOU PLEASE IF YOU FIND OUT ANYTHING COULD YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW I GUESS THERE IS NO WAY TO GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER I HAVE BEEN DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO FIND THESE PEOPLE THEY OWE ME A LARGE SUM OF MONEY BUT MOST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE CHECK CHARGES REMOVE FROM MY NAME. I CAN'T BELIEVE THE WAY OUR LAW WORKS IF YOU ARE OUT THERE WORKING NOT LIVING ON WELFARE DOING YOUR BEST NOT TO BREAK THE LAW WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS NOBODY CAN HELP AND THE BAD ONES SEEM TO GET AWAY WITH IT BUT ON THE OTHER HAND DO SOMETHING LIKE GETTING A SPEEDING TICKET AND FORGET TO PAY OFF TO JAIL YOU GO! WELL SOME OF US JUST LEARN THE HARD WAY. I SEEM TO TRUST TO MUST ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU


Diane

VISALIA,
California,
U.S.A.
THANX TAMMI

#24UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, May 03, 2007

TAMMI THANK YOU PLEASE IF YOU FIND OUT ANYTHING COULD YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW I GUESS THERE IS NO WAY TO GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER I HAVE BEEN DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO FIND THESE PEOPLE THEY OWE ME A LARGE SUM OF MONEY BUT MOST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE CHECK CHARGES REMOVE FROM MY NAME. I CAN'T BELIEVE THE WAY OUR LAW WORKS IF YOU ARE OUT THERE WORKING NOT LIVING ON WELFARE DOING YOUR BEST NOT TO BREAK THE LAW WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS NOBODY CAN HELP AND THE BAD ONES SEEM TO GET AWAY WITH IT BUT ON THE OTHER HAND DO SOMETHING LIKE GETTING A SPEEDING TICKET AND FORGET TO PAY OFF TO JAIL YOU GO! WELL SOME OF US JUST LEARN THE HARD WAY. I SEEM TO TRUST TO MUST ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU


Diane

VISALIA,
California,
U.S.A.
THANX TAMMI

#25UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, May 03, 2007

TAMMI THANK YOU PLEASE IF YOU FIND OUT ANYTHING COULD YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW I GUESS THERE IS NO WAY TO GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER I HAVE BEEN DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO FIND THESE PEOPLE THEY OWE ME A LARGE SUM OF MONEY BUT MOST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE CHECK CHARGES REMOVE FROM MY NAME. I CAN'T BELIEVE THE WAY OUR LAW WORKS IF YOU ARE OUT THERE WORKING NOT LIVING ON WELFARE DOING YOUR BEST NOT TO BREAK THE LAW WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS NOBODY CAN HELP AND THE BAD ONES SEEM TO GET AWAY WITH IT BUT ON THE OTHER HAND DO SOMETHING LIKE GETTING A SPEEDING TICKET AND FORGET TO PAY OFF TO JAIL YOU GO! WELL SOME OF US JUST LEARN THE HARD WAY. I SEEM TO TRUST TO MUST ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU


Diane

VISALIA,
California,
U.S.A.
THANX TAMMI

#26UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, May 03, 2007

TAMMI THANK YOU PLEASE IF YOU FIND OUT ANYTHING COULD YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW I GUESS THERE IS NO WAY TO GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER I HAVE BEEN DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO FIND THESE PEOPLE THEY OWE ME A LARGE SUM OF MONEY BUT MOST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE CHECK CHARGES REMOVE FROM MY NAME. I CAN'T BELIEVE THE WAY OUR LAW WORKS IF YOU ARE OUT THERE WORKING NOT LIVING ON WELFARE DOING YOUR BEST NOT TO BREAK THE LAW WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS NOBODY CAN HELP AND THE BAD ONES SEEM TO GET AWAY WITH IT BUT ON THE OTHER HAND DO SOMETHING LIKE GETTING A SPEEDING TICKET AND FORGET TO PAY OFF TO JAIL YOU GO! WELL SOME OF US JUST LEARN THE HARD WAY. I SEEM TO TRUST TO MUST ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
TO: Diane - VISALIA, California

#27Author of original report

Thu, April 26, 2007

No Diane...sorry....I don't have their new business address and I don't know where they moved to exactly. I was told somewhere near Lawrence, Kansas. You are not the only one who has had criminal charges pressed against them for rubber checks. Someone who works in the building where MFL was located before they moved out...this person told me a MFL driver got put in jail for a rubber check that MFL passed to him. And Kenny, Jesse, or someone else (Kendra?) falsely accused him of stealing the check! So that's why he was put in jail. Can you believe that?!?! Well, you probably can. I have an address I gave the court so they could send a certified letter to Kenny Wilson. But he never picked up the letter so my case was dropped, and I didn't get the rest of my money. This is all I have, until someone else posts a different address...I think this is his home address - I never went by there to check it out - maybe I should? Anyway, here it is: Kenny Wilson 1141 Swift Avenue N. KC, MO 64116 I hope you get your problem fixed, and you get your money from these a-holes!


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
TO: Jeff - Clinton, Missouri

#28Author of original report

Thu, April 26, 2007

Jeff - hi...did we ever meet? Were you a driver there too? I'm sorry you got screwed too. So you said they went to another company called Twin City Trailer? Do you know where they are? I got most of my money they owned me, but I still want the rest, and I'm still up for suing them to get it. I'm tired of getting screwed. Since I have lived in Kansas City, this is the THIRD time it happened. Companies are like a box of chocolates - you neverknow whatyou're gonnaget! The way I got my money on the bounced checks was I turned MFL into the Prosecuting Attorney. I did it just in the nick of time. If there there had been any delays on my part, or on the PA's part, I would not have gotten my money...it was about three weeks after I got my money that MFL closed down. In order for you to get your money now, you need to know where they are so they can be served. If you have the address, call the Prosecuting Attorney to get the paperwork. It's only one page, and it's really simple to fill out. That's about all you need to do. And it's the easiest way. If you know the new company name and address where MFL moved to, please post it here - not just for me, but so others searching for information on them can find it before they get screwed too. I hope this helps you and other MFL victims get your money from these low-life scum-bags.


Diane

VISALIA,
California,
U.S.A.
Hi Tammy and Jeff if you are out there

#29UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, April 26, 2007

Tammi do you have a curent address for Midwest? I've been trying to get my money out of them and the criminal charges drop against me due to the paycheck i cashed that was rubber. Here in Ca the labor commissioner has been trying to make contact with them. so if you could help me in getting a address for them would be very much appreciated! I just happen to be another one would made the wrong choice's hope you get back at me Diane


Diane

VISALIA,
California,
U.S.A.
Hi Tammy and Jeff if you are out there

#30UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, April 26, 2007

Tammi do you have a curent address for Midwest? I've been trying to get my money out of them and the criminal charges drop against me due to the paycheck i cashed that was rubber. Here in Ca the labor commissioner has been trying to make contact with them. so if you could help me in getting a address for them would be very much appreciated! I just happen to be another one would made the wrong choice's hope you get back at me Diane


Diane

VISALIA,
California,
U.S.A.
Hi Tammy and Jeff if you are out there

#31UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, April 26, 2007

Tammi do you have a curent address for Midwest? I've been trying to get my money out of them and the criminal charges drop against me due to the paycheck i cashed that was rubber. Here in Ca the labor commissioner has been trying to make contact with them. so if you could help me in getting a address for them would be very much appreciated! I just happen to be another one would made the wrong choice's hope you get back at me Diane


Steve [Not A Lawyer]

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Tammy, that reply really shows your true character!

#32Consumer Comment

Mon, April 16, 2007

Tammy, Calling names really shows your true character. It really tells people what kind of person you really are. Furthermore, the other poster was right. It is obviously your attitude that has caused you your problems in this industry. You know absolutely nothing about how things really work, but have the know it all attitude. What part of black and white do you find hard to understand? You clearly wrote that the truck had brake problems and the company/truck owner refused to fix them. I quoted your EXACT words in the above post. You have a serious mental problem. Get help.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
To DAVE and STEVE

#33Author of original report

Sun, April 15, 2007

To Dave: Thanks for your suggestions - I thought they were funny. However, the company was kicked out of that building just before Thanksgiving 2006 due to failure to pay rent for SEVERAL months. I tried to sue MFL for the remaining amount they owe me with the court in Independence. The court sent a certified letter to the home address I have for Kenny Wilson....he never pick the letter up, so my court case was dropped. MFL changed their name, moved somewhere over by Lawrence, Kansas, from what I was told, but I don't know their address or the new name of the company. To Steve: WHAT PART of "I never said the equipment was not safe to drive" DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE *FIRST* TIME??? Now if I throw you a bone, will you go the hell away!!!? Sorry to say this, but you're a freekin' idiot!


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
To DAVE and STEVE

#34Author of original report

Sun, April 15, 2007

To Dave: Thanks for your suggestions - I thought they were funny. However, the company was kicked out of that building just before Thanksgiving 2006 due to failure to pay rent for SEVERAL months. I tried to sue MFL for the remaining amount they owe me with the court in Independence. The court sent a certified letter to the home address I have for Kenny Wilson....he never pick the letter up, so my court case was dropped. MFL changed their name, moved somewhere over by Lawrence, Kansas, from what I was told, but I don't know their address or the new name of the company. To Steve: WHAT PART of "I never said the equipment was not safe to drive" DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE *FIRST* TIME??? Now if I throw you a bone, will you go the hell away!!!? Sorry to say this, but you're a freekin' idiot!


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
To DAVE and STEVE

#35Author of original report

Sun, April 15, 2007

To Dave: Thanks for your suggestions - I thought they were funny. However, the company was kicked out of that building just before Thanksgiving 2006 due to failure to pay rent for SEVERAL months. I tried to sue MFL for the remaining amount they owe me with the court in Independence. The court sent a certified letter to the home address I have for Kenny Wilson....he never pick the letter up, so my court case was dropped. MFL changed their name, moved somewhere over by Lawrence, Kansas, from what I was told, but I don't know their address or the new name of the company. To Steve: WHAT PART of "I never said the equipment was not safe to drive" DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE *FIRST* TIME??? Now if I throw you a bone, will you go the hell away!!!? Sorry to say this, but you're a freekin' idiot!


Steve [Not A Lawyer]

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Tammy, let me refresh your memory with your EXACT WORDS!

#36Consumer Suggestion

Sun, April 15, 2007

Tammy, You specicifically stated you had a problem with the brakes that you reported and they refused to fix! Do you not remember stating this? If you state there is something wrong with the brakes and they need to be fixed, that is the same as you saying they are unsafe! AND, by law, you were required to immediately take that truck out of service. This was not optional. You CHOSE to operate an unsafe/illegal vehicle. You broke the law. Here is the EXACT verbage from your original post: ..."I told them two weeks ago that something is wrong with the brakes on the truck, and they never fixed the problem. I even gave them comments written on a work order by a mechanic that told them the brakes needed to be fixed - the potential problem of not fixing it was that the brakes could lock up"..... >>>>> Midwest Freight Lines, Midwest Freight Logistics - Liberty, Missouri Dishonest, Irresponsible, Selfish, Self-Centered, Inconsiderate! ...DOES NOT PAY THEIR EMPLOYEES!!! Equipment is GARBAGE! Liberty Missouri *UPDATE ..Cheats, Thieves & Liars!!! Wicked, Evil People!!! Company Midwest Freight Lines / Midwest Freight Logistics Address: 7600 S. Church Road Liberty Missouri 64068 U.S.A. Phone Number: 816-781-5718 Fax: June 29, 2006 During the course of my six-week employment with Midwest Freight Lines, I had numerous problems: The truck broke down, or needed repairs NINE TIMES in six-weeks (fuel filter, starter, oil sensor, tire blowouts on EVERY trip, air conditioning breaking three times). There has NEVER been a single trip I have done where there was not an incident with the truck. Other problems: I repeatedly asked for an extra key for the truck. I repeatedly asked them to buy some curtains for the bunk so I could have privacy to change my clothes, and privacy and to block out the light while I slept. I have REPEATEDLY asked for my paychecks also, and they will not give them to me. The people in the office will not hardly ever answer the phone when I call them. They are very unreliably unavailable. When they fail to answer the phone, I found that if I block my phone number so they don't know who is calling, usually someone will answer. I told them two weeks ago that something is wrong with the brakes on the truck, and they never fixed the problem. I even gave them comments written on a work order by a mechanic that told them the brakes needed to be fixed - the potential problem of not fixing it was that the brakes could lock up. >>>>> YOU, as the DRIVER of a commercial vehicle are 100% in charge over whether or not you drive something that is unsafe. It is ON YOU. NO EXCUSES!!


Dave

Kansas City,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
READ THIS !!!!!!!!!!!

#37Consumer Suggestion

Sun, April 15, 2007

WELL YOU MAY NOT NEED A BUSINESS LICENSE,,, BUT YOU d**n SURE NEED AN OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE IN MISSOURI CLEARLY POSTED IN PLAIN SIGHT AND IN PUBLIC VIEW ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF KCMO AND MOST OTHER CITIES AS WELL. YOU MIGHT ALSO JUST FOR GRINS CALL THE CITY FIRE MARSHALL AND HAVE THEM PERFORM A RANDOM INSPECTION OF THE PREMISES UNANNOUNCED TOO. I'D ALSO CALL THE CITY AND NOTIFY THEM,, CODES AND ENFORCEMENT AS WELL. THEN I'D CALL OOIDA OUT IN GRAIN VALLEY MISSOURI AND ASK FOR THE BUSINESS SERVICES DEPT,, AND THE COMPLIANCE DEPT, AND INFORM THEM OF THE SITUTATION AS WELL. THEN I'D CALL THIS OFFICE,,,,THIS IS THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN JEFFERSON CITY MISSOURI,, AND ASK FOR WILLIAM COLEMAN,,,, AT-PH-573-636-3246 WRITE THEM AT-3219 EMERALD LANE SUITE 500, JEFFERSON CITY MISSOURI 65109-6863 SEND THEM A LETTER WITH ALL YOUR PERTIENT FACTS TO BACK YOU UP,, AND DON'T FORGET TO HAVE THAT CITY FIRE MARSHALL DROP BY AND PERFORM AN INSPECTION OF THEIR PREMISES TOO !!!!!!


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
MFL - White Trash Low-Life Scum-Bags

#38Author of original report

Tue, December 26, 2006

Yes, I believe what I wrote or I would not have written it, and I never said that the brakes on the truck were not safe.


Steve [Not A Lawyer]

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Tammy, absolutely NOT TRUE!!

#39Consumer Suggestion

Mon, December 25, 2006

Tammy, Do you actually believe what you are saying? just because you close a business down or move or change names, DOES NOT get you off the hook with the people you owe money to! There is no law that allows this except for BANKRUPTCY! Did they file BK? The "whatever" response shows how you deal with things. That is the root of your problems. If you follow through, as suggested, you WILL most likely get paid. I have been through this as well. It takes time and patience, but can be done. If you have documentation, you WILL win a small claims suit and/or a labor charge. If you learn the laws that affect you and stand up firmly in your own defense, these things would never happen. For example, in your original post. 1. The A/C was not working and they refused to let you fix it. WRONG ANSWER! You had the LEGAL right to take that vehicle out of service until it was fixed. The DOT should have been called immediately and a report filed. The LAW requires that a driver of a commercial vehicle have an "adequate supply of heat and air conditioning". 2. You claimed the brakes were unsafe and they refused to let you fix them . Once again, WRONG ANSWER! It is the LEGAL responsibility of the commercial driver to take an unsafe vehicle out of service. YOUR legal responsibility. YOU chose to drive the unsafe vehicle. As far as the other things you wanted like the curtain. That is your responsibility. hang a blanket! The extra key, HAVE one made! Again, you CHOSE to accept these circumstances. Otherwise you would have quit the first time they jerked you around. With me, as soon as someone does not pay me in full and on time as agreed, that truck gets parked and I get out. Again, your choice.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Closing a Business Down

#40Author of original report

Sun, December 24, 2006

All I can say is "whatever!".... they CAN do it... it happened to me with another company.... the law allows businesses to up and leave all the people they owe money to. They are legally allowed to shut down, move somewhere else, dissolve the company, start up another company, and not be obligated to pay ANYone. I've been through this with two different companies already, so I think I would know. The law is designed to protect the criminal, not the victim. And as far as the guy going to jail for being accused of stealing company checks, I never talked to him personally, however....one of the businesses in the same building with MFL told me a MFL driver had just come into their office the other day after getting out of jail for the "check stealing", and I know this person wouldn't make something up like that. That's a pretty crazy story to just dream up about someone that you hardly even know. And considering how these owners of MFL's treated me, I believe they would do something that mean and that crazy!!!!


Steve [Not A Lawyer]

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Tammy, they CANNOT just close down and re-open as you say. Here's why.

#41Consumer Suggestion

Sun, December 24, 2006

It is the operating authority. Operating authority is tied to real people, and your past follows you. Even if they applied for and got new operating authority, their old authority is forever tied to the new one if any of the same owners are involved. You can get all of this information from the FMCSA website. You can also track them by their insurance company and by registered agent. What was the type of business entity? Was it a corp? LLC? Sole Prop.? etc. As far as the other driver getting jailed for the alleged stolen check, I find that VERY hard to believe. Suspected or accused, OK. But jailed? No. Too easy to beat.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Midwest Freight Lines ** UPDATE ** LOW LIFE SCUM-BAGS Liberty Missouri

#42Author of original report

Sun, December 24, 2006

I had to get an attorney to do a mediation with me and Kenny Wilson. Kenny showed up to the meeting about 45 minutes late. He would not pay me everything he owed me, because I drove the truck home from Houston, Texas with no load on the truck. But I did that because I was seeing some really bad red flags about the company, and out of self-preservation, I took the unloaded truck and drove it back to Kansas City from Houston for the reasons explained in my previous reports on them. But anyway, during mediation, Kenny Wilson told me in my attorney's office to meet him at his office at a certain day and time to pick up my paycheck. So I went there when he told me to, and he was not there! So I had to call my attorney. Then another time was rescheduled to pick up my paycheck for the third or fourth time already. I live something like 50 miles round trip from the company so they cost me alotta money in gas while I tried getting my paycheck from them. They kept stringing me along forever - like four months! So I met Kenny Wilson on another day and finally got my paycheck, and as I left their office, Kendra Herd laughed at me with this real creepy evil laugh. She knew the check was not good. I deposited the check and it didn't clear. So I turned them into the prosecuting attorney's office and not more than a month went by, and I got my $2400 something dollars from them. They made me so mad because of all they put me through, that I decided I was going to sue them for the rest of the money they owed me (another $1000). But when I went to court on Friday, December 22, the judge told me that the certified letter they mailed MFL was returned because they moved and left no forwarding address. I found out a couple months later that about a week and a half after I got my check from the prosecuting attorney that MFL was kicked out of their office for not paying rent for three months. I also learned that they gave another driver a bad check, and accused him of stealing the check, and he got put in jail! That could have been me!!! OMG! Now he did nothing wrong - MFL is the one who is ripping people off, but then they turn around and wrongfully accuse someone of stealing checks and get someone put in jail....that's really screwed up. Who's doing the stealing???? I also found out that Midwest Freight Lines left their office and many drivers didn't know where they went to. They left everybody high and dry, owing everybody money, and moved near Lawrence, Kansas and started up another business under the name of Tri Cities. I know alot of people did not get their money from MFL. I came so close to not getting mine. Just another 1.5 weeks, and I would have not gotten my money - that's how close it was! If I had waited any longer to file my papers with the prosecuting attorney, then they would have sent a demand letter to pay me, but the letter would have been returned because MFL left no forwarding address, and I know they did that on purpose. They know they screwed alot of people, so they just close down, move, leave no forwarding address, then start up a new business under a new name, then I'm sure they will do the same thing all over again. They've been doing this for a while already, as I noticed that they had different addresses on all the registration and other papers for the truck. These people are low life scum-bag white trash, and if anybody was working for them and is reading this report - it MFL lines owes you money because they bounced your paycheck or put a stop payment on it, turn them into the Clay County prosecuting attorney's office and they will help you get your money. Tammy Grandview, Missouri


Steve [Not A Lawyer]

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Owner Operator vs. Lease Driver

#43Consumer Suggestion

Fri, December 22, 2006

Tammy and others, just owning your equipment DOES NOT make you an owner operator. You must have your own operating authority to truly be an owner operator. When you lease your equipment onto someone elses authority, legally, they have total control over YOUR equipment. You are at their mercy, legally. This is what so many people do not understand. Want to avoid these problems, get your own authority. Then you can truly call yourself an owner operator!


Jeff

Clinton,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
YOUR DAY IS NEAR

#44UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, December 22, 2006

TAMMY: My name is JEFF and i have worked for MFL on 2 different ocsaaions. And you would of thought that i would of learned from the first time. But i guess i am just a big dummy. Kenny Wilson is about the biggest ;looser i have ever seen in my life. His mom should really be proud of him. Every thing that comes out of that mans mouth is a lie. They still owe me about 2000 dollars. My last day with them was nov 14 2006. And i havent heard a single word from them. Here it is christmas time, and i havent got a single dime for christmas. They have ripped off alot of people. I was told that they were combining companies with twin city tailer. And I was suppose to still have a job. But that was a bunch of BS. I have had every problem that ytou have had with them. And i can guarntee you that there is more. They ripped off one of my best friendsa for 1000 bucks. Jessie and Kendra always passed the buck onto Kenny. But either one of the three could write checks. i know that that friend of mine has got the bounced check from them.I wouild appreciate any help that you could kick my way. All of these people need to get burned.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
MFL Rips Off Owner-Operators

#45Author of original report

Tue, October 31, 2006

I just want to make a brief comment here that I spoke with someone tonight who had four trucks leased on with Midwest Freight Lines. He told me that MFL BOUNCED an $8,000 check to him, and he knows of other owner-operators who have also been victims of bounced checks through this dishonest stinkin' rotten company. If anybody has been a victim of bounced checks from Midwest Freight Lines, please post here. It may be possible to file a class action lawsuit against this company and put them out of business. I personally turned these jerks into the Clay County Prosecuting Attorney's office, and they took over from there, sent MFL a letter stating that they had to pay me, or face possible jail time, and I got me my $2414. That was the amount that we agreed to settle for in my attorney's office PLUS $20 bounced check fee that the Prosecuting Attorney awarded me....now I'm taking MFL to court to get the rest of my money - about $1000, just because they were jerks, screwed with me and my life for four months, didn't want to give me my money, then they bounced my check...so I'm not finished with them yet....I'm going for the rest of my money. I'm coming after you Midwest Freight Lines for the rest of my money because you broke your promises, after having a meeting with my attorney to pay me, then you gave me a bounced check. If enough complaints are filed, eventually it will get someone's attention, and they will be put out of business. But if you sit there and do nothing, you will get nothing. It only takes five minutes to call the Prosecuting Attorney in Clay County, and five minutes to fill out the simple form, put it in an envelope and put it in the mail, and you're done...the PA will do the rest. You'll have your money in about two months. The Clay County Prosecuting Attorney's phone number is: (816) 736-8310. I personally am going to help the owner-operator who was ripped off for $8,000 by MFL because they pissed me off, and they are taking advantage of other people, and kicking them when they're down. This guy lost his wife in a car accident...he is handicapped, and was left to take care of three children all by himself. Midwest Freight Lines - YOU PEOPLE are REALLY SICK...YOU SUCK!!!!


Robert

Indianapolis,
Indiana,
U.S.A.
do this

#46Consumer Comment

Sat, October 28, 2006

there are laws and these type of people are not above the law i had a company try to keep my pay send a certified letter to them with return reciept requesting your wages in full within 10 working days if they do not respond call dept. of labor the will be subject to fines by dept. of labor


Robert

Indianapolis,
Indiana,
U.S.A.
do this

#47Consumer Comment

Sat, October 28, 2006

there are laws and these type of people are not above the law i had a company try to keep my pay send a certified letter to them with return reciept requesting your wages in full within 10 working days if they do not respond call dept. of labor the will be subject to fines by dept. of labor


Robert

Indianapolis,
Indiana,
U.S.A.
do this

#48Consumer Comment

Sat, October 28, 2006

there are laws and these type of people are not above the law i had a company try to keep my pay send a certified letter to them with return reciept requesting your wages in full within 10 working days if they do not respond call dept. of labor the will be subject to fines by dept. of labor


Robert

Indianapolis,
Indiana,
U.S.A.
do this

#49Consumer Comment

Sat, October 28, 2006

there are laws and these type of people are not above the law i had a company try to keep my pay send a certified letter to them with return reciept requesting your wages in full within 10 working days if they do not respond call dept. of labor the will be subject to fines by dept. of labor


Jean

Powder Springs,
Georgia,
U.S.A.
Agree with Steve

#50Consumer Suggestion

Fri, October 20, 2006

I have to agree with Steve, I think it was your attitude that has caused so much grief. He is only trying to give you information that can help. I have a suggestion of my own and maybe it can help get your money owed to you. Take the returned check to the court house and file a warrant. Issueing a bad check is against the law. I'm not sure what the process would be but you could talk to someone at the court house.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Another legal point for Tammy re DOT and pre Trip Inspections

#51Consumer Comment

Sat, October 14, 2006

Tammy, Did you know that per DOT regulations regarding OTR drivers that you as a driver can legally put your truck out of service if you do not have an "adequate amount of heat or air conditioning"? Thats right. Heat and air conditioning are NOT optional for an OTR driver. It is required to work, by FEDERAL LAW. Why did you ACCEPT a truck that had no working air conditioning? Again, YOUR CHOICE to accept and drive a broken truck. And, one more question. Did they tell you that you were an "independent contractor"? Did you get a 1099 or a W-2? Did they withhold Fed Taxes, SS, etc? I have seen these operations before, and that is how they are done most of the time. Illegal. Let me see if I have this straight. The "trucking company" owns NO TRUCKS, but they do own trailers that you described as junk and totally unsafe. The "truck owners" have no drivers. They just buy the truck, and lease it on to the "trucking company" who owns no trucks. Now, the million dollar question! Who EXACTLY is your EMPLOYER? The "trucking company"? The "truck owner"? Yourself? Now, to help you answer this question LEGALLY. Go to the IRS website and download a form and fill it out and mail it. It is an SS-8 form titled "DETERMINATION OF WORKER STATUS". If you properly fill it out and mai it, I can tell you how it will come out. You were an EMPLOYEE, and you were employed by the person who had control over your time. This would be the trucking company who owned no trucks. And, as an employee, it is the trucking company who is LEGALLY required to pay you, NOT the truck owner. For the truck owner to be legally required to pay you, you would have to have a lease driver agreement in place with the trucking company. I am really interested in having you answer these questions and take the advice I have given you. Even though you have attacked me when I was really trying to help. There are many of these illegal scam trucking operations out there that prey on people just like you and me everyday. The reason I know so much about it, is that I have been through it. Do the SS-8 form today, as it is the best revenge you can get! It will get them audited, as well as fined, and they will have to pay back SS matching, unemployment insurance, and workmans compensation insurance. Make them pay.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
To Steve

#52Author of original report

Thu, October 12, 2006

Steve, I didn't even read everything you wrote...it wasn't worth reading - it's just the same rhetoric you wrote before. Just as I said to Hugh & Sean (read it), you show your ignorance by even opening your mouth and writing comments here on this board. You, Hugh, and Sean are making VAST assumptions. You're so bent on putting me down and being so derogatory towards me. If I throw you a bone, will you go away? Cuz I don't need that in my life. I have enough jerks in my life as it is, and I don't need another one! Steve, I don't know why you even bother posting anything here. You are ASSUMING that I do not do pre-trips, and that I am lazy and don't do my job, that I'm ignorant and don't know what I'm doing. Steve, you are also ASSUMING that the equipment I was driving was unsafe and I never said MFL's trucks were not safe to drive. So do you have any more STUPID comments to make? I just woke up and found a message in my inbox that someone posted a rebuttal on ROR....what a way to start the day with stupid people making stupid mean derogatory comments like this - thanks alot!


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Tammy, one more thing regarding paid miles and down time in your post

#53Consumer Comment

Thu, October 12, 2006

Tammy, You also mentioned that they were ripping you off by not paying actual miles. If you had the experience you claim, you would know that it is very rare for any company to pay on hub/actual miles. In all of my years driving, and all of the companies I have driven for, I have seen only 2 companies that paid actual miles. Most companies pay on what is called practical miles, which are always less than your actual miles driven, sometimes by 5-10%. Then there are the companies that really rip you off they pay on short miles or HHG miles. These are calculated 2 ways. One method is zip code to zip code, and the other is straight line like a bird flies. Furthermore, did you not ask how the job paid BEFORE taking the job? As far as your statement that you work 24/7 while on the road. Well, this is just plain stupid, and illegal. And, once again, YOUR CHOICE. There is a thing called HOURS OF SERVICE. All of that time broke down or fixing the truck is logged as ON DUTY, NOT DRIVING and counts against your 15 hour maximum in service for the day. Most companies pay detention time while broke down after so many hours. The rule for being ON DUTY is determined as the requirement for you to be "in control and custody of the truck" or be in "readiness to work". These are DOT interpretations. So, unless you are in the bunk sleeping or on your logged 10 hours off duty time, you are legally on duty for purposes of HOS. Again, you chose to put in those hours and operate illegally and unsafely. It was your choice. That is not my stupid assumption or opinion. That is a fact, and is the law. And, FYI. It is a DAC report, not a DAQ report. Any experienced driver would know this.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Tammy, this explains everything.

#54Consumer Comment

Thu, October 12, 2006

Tammy, You have contradicted yourself in so many places, and also your attitude here with me and others probably explains why you had so many problems. You said in the above post that you never had a problem with an unsafe truck, but in other posts you said what junk they were and they were always broke down. During the course of my six-week employment with Midwest Freight Lines, I had numerous problems: >> This is an excerpt from your original post: The truck broke down, or needed repairs NINE TIMES in six-weeks (fuel filter, starter, oil sensor, tire blowouts on EVERY trip, air conditioning breaking three times). There has NEVER been a single trip I have done where there was not an incident with the truck. >> Most of the problems you encountered were from not doing an adequate pre-trip inspection BEFORE hitting the road. This is NOT an ASSUMPTION on my part as you claim. It is based on 1.5+ million miles of driving a big truck OTR. FYI..In my 8 years OTR, I was on the side of the road 3 times, with old trucks. I never had a new truck. My newest truck was 4 years old, and my oldest was 11 years old. No problems. It is your attitude that causes your problems. And you have a know it all attitude. I was actually on your side and trying to help. I guess I am just a stupid truck driver after all.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Steve

#55Author of original report

Thu, October 12, 2006

Steve, I didn't even read everything you wrote...I didn't have to - it's just the same rhetoric you wrote before. Just as I said to Hugh & Sean (read it), you show your ignorance by even opening your mouth and writing comments here on this board. You, Hugh, and Sean are making VAST assumptions. You're so bent on putting me down and being so derogatory towards me. If I throw you a bone, will you go away? Cuz I don't need that in my life. I have enough jerks in my life as it is, and I don't need another one! Steve, I don't know why you even bother posting anything here. You are ASSUMING that I do not do pre-trips, and that I am lazy and don't do my job, that I'm ignorant and don't know what I'm doing. Steve, you are also ASSUMING that the equipment I was driving was unsafe and I never said MFL's trucks were not safe to drive. So do you have any more STUPID comments to make? I just woke up and found a message in my inbox that someone posted a rebuttal on ROR....what a way to start the day with stupid people making stupid mean derogatory comments like this - thanks alot!


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Response to Tammy regarding your response to me.

#56Consumer Comment

Thu, October 12, 2006

Tammy, I am a seasoned, experienced truck driver with over 1.5 million commercial miles logged. So, what exactly do I not understand about trucking? I started a business from scratch and ran it, I was also a lease driver and also an employee at various times. I have over 20 years commercial vehicle driving with about 8 of that in tractor trailers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You wrote: Thanks Steve, but the advice you gave is not practical, and to be honest, is downright stupid. Nobody ever reads what I say. They don't even know my job, or what I do out there. You're not there with me to see what I'm doing! You just draw conclusions and make assumptions - the wrong ones - assuming I'm not doing my job! I don't need advice from people like that! I'd rather you keep your stupid comments to yourself than shoot the wounded! There's more to this job than just "me". And I cannot control what other people do! But what other people do, and their decisions screws things up for me. Tammy - Grandview, Missouri U.S.A. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no need or desire to be out there with you to see what you are doing. I know exactly what goes on out there. I have been down every highway and most of the back roads in the US and Canada! I see all of the stupid and lazy drivers out there driving junk and operating outside of legal HOS. The ultimate responsibility for the safe and legal operation of that vehicle is 100% on the driver. By law. If you drive an unsafe vehicle, that is YOUR CHOICE. No one can make you do it. An EXPERIENCED driver does a THOROUGH pre-trip inspection and FIXES all discrepancies BEFORE getting on the road. By your own posts you were relying on the mechanics to inspect your truck and you just kicked the tires and went on down the road. A GOOD pre-trip inspection will take AT LEAST 30 minutes EVERY DAY before starting your day driving. And, if you do not get dirty from getting under the truck and trailer, you DID NOT do a LEGAL pre-trip. Brake inspection is a mandated pre-trip item EVERY DAY and you must get on the ground to do it. Tires cannot be completely inspected either unless you get on the ground under the truck. All systems and guages are supposed to be checked BEFORE getting on the road. As far as the pay goes, the first time I wasn't paid on time as agreed, I would have been driving that truck to my next job! I've done it. I am not being mean to you, I am just educating you on the way it is supposed to be done. You made a series of bad decisions that put you in your current situation. Take responsibility.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
To Hugh & Sean

#57Author of original report

Wed, October 11, 2006

....and everyone else who is just like them.... You people make vast assumptions that really do not justice to me at all, and are better for you to keep your comments to yourself than to say anything at all. Your comments are not helpful, only hurtful. You think you have all the facts, and that you are so smart. But you DON'T have all the facts, as there are far too many to mention every single minute detail in this type of electronic form. I only hightlighted the most important details that I felt were necessary to warn others to stay away from this company. I am the one who is being cheated. I put a report on here to let everyone know what dishonest liars, crooks, theives these people are, and instead of people writing kind comments to me, they turn around and viciously attack me as if I did something to deserve this. Thank you so much - I really don't appreciate people like you - you're just as much of an ahole and a jerk as the people at MFL's are! I would put you in the same category as the these former employers of mine - mean, cold-hearted, calloused, and very, very selfish, ABUSIVE, and inconsiderate! I am going through a hard enough time with these abusive, inconsiderate selfish aholes playing games with me, and I sure don't need more of the same from other people submitting cocky arrogant, mean-spirited responses to me in this RipOffReport.com forum. The other people who wrote responses were very kind, and I want to thank them for their kindness. I only wish there were more nice people in the world, but sadly to say, the world is about 99% jerks. The world would be a much better place without them. :::::::::: UPDATE on MFL: I had to seek assistance with a local agency in my town to help get my electricity, water, gas and rent paid. They could not help me with my rent, but they helped me pay my other utility bills that were going to be shut off last week because I didn't have any money at all to pay them. I owe 2 months rent now. I was given a notice last week to pay or move out. I do not know anybody in this town whom I can stay with. So I guess I would end up losing everything I have and sleeping in my car in a parking lot because of the wickedness, selfishness and abusiveness of these evil, EEEEVIL MFL owners, Kenny Wilson, Jesse and Kendra Herd. I turned MFL into the Prosecuting Attorney a few days ago. And while I was at the agency to get assistance to pay for my utilities, they called MFL and threatend to call Channel 4 Problem Solvers if they didn't pay me. The lady at the agency gave me the phone and I spoke with a new accountant who had only been working for MFL for 6 weeks now. So she had absolutely no clue what was going on, except for all the lies the MFL owners told her. Her name was Cherrie Klaunch. I told Cherrie that I would meet her at their bank in Lawrence, Kansas to get my money in the form of a cashier's check. But she said that she was fixing the books, and that I had to call her by 4:30 later that day and she would tell me whether or not she would give me my money. So I called her when she asked me to, and then Kenny Wilson tells her to tell me that they got the letter from the Prosecuting Attorney, but they have until the 13th of October to take care of it. Weeeeellllll....these people just keep jerking me around, and jerking me around some more....playing games with me AND my life! They have owed this money to me for almost 4 months now, and instead of getting it over with, and GIVING ME MY MONEY, they want to play MORE GAMES and wait until the last day they are allowed to "deal with it". These people are unbelievably SELFISH to the core! They are the EPITAMY of selfishness, and they top the list of the most evil, wicked, self-centered, selfish people I have ever met in my life. They obviously don't care that I could be sleeping in my car in a parking lot in the next few days simply because they want to keep playing games with me and they are not wanting to give me my paycheck that I EARNED, and THAT I DESERVE. I don't deserve is to be treated like this! I have been trying to get my money from them for almost 4 months now! I can understand now why you hear of former employees going back into their workplace and shooting their bosses. You hear about that on TV, then think, how can anybody do that????.....but not I understand why. IF I HAD A MORGAGE PAYMENT TO MAKE, I WOULD HAVE LOST MY HOUSE ALREADY ON THE COUNT OF THESE *&*&S! My landlord STILL has to make payments on his house, even if I don't give him the money, or HE WILL LOSE HIS HOUSE. He cannot afford to pay my rent. Kenny Wilson, Jesse and Kendra Herd are not only hurting me, but they are hurting everyone else in my life who do not deserve it, anymore than I do. I don't know what these people's malfunction is, but they are really, REEEEEALLY ***sick*** people!!!


Sean

Pensacola,
Florida,
U.S.A.
why did you stay so long?

#58Consumer Comment

Sun, October 08, 2006

The first time your paycheck wasn't ready or the first time they refused to pay the fuel bill should have been a red flag.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Shooting The Wounded

#59UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, September 24, 2006

Thanks Steve, but the advice you gave is not practical, and to be honest, is downright stupid. Nobody ever reads what I say. They don't even know my job, or what I do out there. You're not there with me to see what I'm doing! You just draw conclusions and make assumptions - the wrong ones - assuming I'm not doing my job! I don't need advice from people like that! I'd rather you keep your stupid comments to yourself than shoot the wounded! There's more to this job than just "me". And I cannot control what other people do! But what other people do, and their decisions screws things up for me.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Shooting The Wounded

#60UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, September 24, 2006

Thanks Steve, but the advice you gave is not practical, and to be honest, is downright stupid. Nobody ever reads what I say. They don't even know my job, or what I do out there. You're not there with me to see what I'm doing! You just draw conclusions and make assumptions - the wrong ones - assuming I'm not doing my job! I don't need advice from people like that! I'd rather you keep your stupid comments to yourself than shoot the wounded! There's more to this job than just "me". And I cannot control what other people do! But what other people do, and their decisions screws things up for me.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Shooting The Wounded

#61UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, September 24, 2006

Thanks Steve, but the advice you gave is not practical, and to be honest, is downright stupid. Nobody ever reads what I say. They don't even know my job, or what I do out there. You're not there with me to see what I'm doing! You just draw conclusions and make assumptions - the wrong ones - assuming I'm not doing my job! I don't need advice from people like that! I'd rather you keep your stupid comments to yourself than shoot the wounded! There's more to this job than just "me". And I cannot control what other people do! But what other people do, and their decisions screws things up for me.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Shooting The Wounded

#62UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, September 24, 2006

Thanks Steve, but the advice you gave is not practical, and to be honest, is downright stupid. Nobody ever reads what I say. They don't even know my job, or what I do out there. You're not there with me to see what I'm doing! You just draw conclusions and make assumptions - the wrong ones - assuming I'm not doing my job! I don't need advice from people like that! I'd rather you keep your stupid comments to yourself than shoot the wounded! There's more to this job than just "me". And I cannot control what other people do! But what other people do, and their decisions screws things up for me.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
For Tammy, regarding business licenses

#63Consumer Suggestion

Sun, September 24, 2006

Tammy, A business license is only an administrative issue, and will not result in them getting shut down. They will simply fill out the paperwork and pay the fees, along with the arrears amount for the years they have been operationg without one. Actually the USDOT# allows them to operate the trucking business within the state, and the MC# allows them to operate Interstate. The business license means absolutely nothing, trust me. However, FEDERAL and STATE laws governing CDLs and the operation of commercial vehicles clearly state that the ultimate responsibility for the safe operation of a commercial vehicle is on the driver. That was the whole purpose of the CDL program. Accountability. No employer can force you to drive an unsafe vehicle. Under the law YOU are the boss when it comes down to whether that vehicle gets operated or not. If you take the vehicle out of service, your company has no choice but to get the repairs done IMMEDIATELY. If they give you a hard time, just go to any scalehouse and ask for a level 1 inspection. Inform them of the problems, and they will take the vehicle out of service for you, and cite the employer for refusing to make repairs. You do know how to do a PROPER pretrip inspesction, right? That vehicle inspection booklet is a permanent record that is required to be kept on file for 3 years. The bottom line is here, that YOU are in control of the safe operation of that commercial vehicle. It is YOUR legal responsibility.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
For Tammy, regarding business licenses

#64Consumer Suggestion

Sun, September 24, 2006

Tammy, A business license is only an administrative issue, and will not result in them getting shut down. They will simply fill out the paperwork and pay the fees, along with the arrears amount for the years they have been operationg without one. Actually the USDOT# allows them to operate the trucking business within the state, and the MC# allows them to operate Interstate. The business license means absolutely nothing, trust me. However, FEDERAL and STATE laws governing CDLs and the operation of commercial vehicles clearly state that the ultimate responsibility for the safe operation of a commercial vehicle is on the driver. That was the whole purpose of the CDL program. Accountability. No employer can force you to drive an unsafe vehicle. Under the law YOU are the boss when it comes down to whether that vehicle gets operated or not. If you take the vehicle out of service, your company has no choice but to get the repairs done IMMEDIATELY. If they give you a hard time, just go to any scalehouse and ask for a level 1 inspection. Inform them of the problems, and they will take the vehicle out of service for you, and cite the employer for refusing to make repairs. You do know how to do a PROPER pretrip inspesction, right? That vehicle inspection booklet is a permanent record that is required to be kept on file for 3 years. The bottom line is here, that YOU are in control of the safe operation of that commercial vehicle. It is YOUR legal responsibility.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
For Tammy, regarding business licenses

#65Consumer Suggestion

Sun, September 24, 2006

Tammy, A business license is only an administrative issue, and will not result in them getting shut down. They will simply fill out the paperwork and pay the fees, along with the arrears amount for the years they have been operationg without one. Actually the USDOT# allows them to operate the trucking business within the state, and the MC# allows them to operate Interstate. The business license means absolutely nothing, trust me. However, FEDERAL and STATE laws governing CDLs and the operation of commercial vehicles clearly state that the ultimate responsibility for the safe operation of a commercial vehicle is on the driver. That was the whole purpose of the CDL program. Accountability. No employer can force you to drive an unsafe vehicle. Under the law YOU are the boss when it comes down to whether that vehicle gets operated or not. If you take the vehicle out of service, your company has no choice but to get the repairs done IMMEDIATELY. If they give you a hard time, just go to any scalehouse and ask for a level 1 inspection. Inform them of the problems, and they will take the vehicle out of service for you, and cite the employer for refusing to make repairs. You do know how to do a PROPER pretrip inspesction, right? That vehicle inspection booklet is a permanent record that is required to be kept on file for 3 years. The bottom line is here, that YOU are in control of the safe operation of that commercial vehicle. It is YOUR legal responsibility.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
MFL NOT LICENSED!

#66UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sat, September 23, 2006

Thank you....I really appreciate you posting that D.O.T. safety report on MFL's safety record. One lady in the office - the one who does log books - even admitted to me that they have a bad rap sheet with D.O.T. Yes, MFL has a FMC license (Federal Motor Carrier), but every business is ALSO required by law to have a BUSINESS LICENSE in order to do business in that state, and Midwest Freight Lines DOES NOT have a license to conduct business in the state of Missouri. I already contacted the Secretary of State, and their records do NOT showing ANY records for MFL. And they told me they were sending out a letter to the company to tell them they have to get licensed. If they don't comply with State law, they will get shut down and I think fined for illegally operating a business - ROFL!!! Business licenses and Federal Motor Carrier licenses are different, not one and the same. One license does not cover the other. Every commercial truck is required to have both.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Truck Break-downs, MFL, Owner-Operators, Driving a Truck for a Living....

#67UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sat, September 23, 2006

The truck broke down due to MFL's lack of maintenance. They have mechanics, and I assumed the mechanics were doing their job, checking out every truck thoroughly when it came back from a trip because THAT'S WHAT OTHER COMPANIES DO with their trucks when they have THEIR OWN MECHANICS. If the mechanics weren't doing their job, then how would I have known that? I'm just a driver! All I can do is a BASIC pre-trip inspection that the D.O.T. requires. If everything looks fine, I drive it. If it doesn't, I won't. MFL doesn't have very many trucks. I think they have only 10 to my knowlege. So every truck should be well maintained, and there should not be any excuses for them to not find time to check every one out when they come back. The problem is that every truck in MFL's in OWNER-OPERATED - MFL does NOT own ANY of their own trucks. So the problem is that people who have never driven trucks before in their entire life, go buy CHEAPLY PRICED TRUCKS not knowing what to look for, and what NOT to look for, and then the driver ends up in a piece of junk truck. It may look all nice and shiny on the outside, and the engine might look good and clean, but until you get in the truck and start driving it, then you don't see all the problems it has until the truck starts breaking down on the road. So these people who know NOTHING about truck driving go buy a truck REAL CHEAP, lease it onto a company such as Midwest Freight Lines, and the driver gets stuck driving a piece of junk. The only equipment that Midwest Freight Lines owns is trailers, and THOSE trailers are OLD pieces of garbage! People: if you don't know anything about truck driving, and have never driven a truck before....do the rest of the world a favor....get some experience under your belt driving a truck yourself for at least a couple years so you understand all the aspects of truck driving before you go buy a truck of your own and sign it on with a company. AND don't buy trucks with real cheap prices just because you think you're getting a good deal because it's going to have too many problems, and all that does is cause problems for the driver; then the driver (or you) doesn't make any money because they are sitting on the side of the road all day - and that's not fair to the driver because you wanted to be a cheapskate and don't want to spend a little more money for a better truck. For some reason, so many people (mostly people who have never driven trucks before in their entire life)...but these people have this big idea in their heads that you can make a ton of money driving a truck. They think big truck = big $$$$, and it's NOT true! All they see is a big truck going down the road...what you guys don't realize is that driver is AT WORK 24/7 from the day he/she gets in the truck, until the day they get back in town, park it, lock it up, and go home! You only get paid for each mile you drive, and truck driving companies short you on your miles. They don't pay ACTUAL miles; they only pay what a book tells them to pay the driver, so that leaves them alot of room to cheat the driver out of their money. If I drive 3500 miles in one week, I may get paid for only 3300 miles. Over-the-road Drivers don't get paid to sit in traffic, do log books, get fuel, wash the truck, for breakdowns, to sit at docks waiting to get loaded or unloaded....you only get paid WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING. One time I added up all the hours I sat around waiting to get loaded or unloaded, and in ONE WEEK, I added up 40 hours sitting around that I DIDN'T GET PAID FOR! - and people think driving a truck is good money??? ROFL! Truck driving AS A PROFESSION itself should be listed under RipOffReport.com to make the unwise wiser - to educate the ignorant people who think driving a truck is such good money that they want to pay a truck driving school several hundred dollars to get a CDL license. The profession should be listed on RipOffReport.com to warn everybody who wants to get into truck driving so they don't make the same mistake I did. If I had known what I was getting myself into several years ago, I would have done something different. Now I'm stuck. Make your career decisions wisely! I never had a SINGLE problem with ANY company not paying me. That is....until I moved to Kansas City. Since I have been here the last 2.5 years, EVERY SINGLE COMPANY I have worked for has ripped me off!!! I am out a total of about $8,000 altogether now, and as a single person, I can't take hits like that! These jerks I'm sure have money to pay rent on their house, food in their refrigerator to stuff their fat bellies with, lights on in their house, water to flush their toilets and take showers, and gas to cook their food and stay warm...but when they don't pay me, I'm the one who goes without. And I'm the one who will end up in jail because MFL didn't pay their ticket like they SAID they did (several times). I only have about $100 to my name now, and I will have to return a vacuum cleaner I bought from Costco several months ago just so I can keep gas in my car and buy food. I still haven't paid my rent for September, have no rent money for October, and have not paid ANY of my utility bills for almost three months. I was counting on the paycheck that MFL FINALLY gave me to clear the bank, but the check BOUNCED, so now I'm in a financial crises because of these jerks. I would use a stronger word than "jerk", but I don't like using profanity. Most of the people in this profession are very, VERY dishonest people. STAY AWAY from this kind of work, unless you're a fool. I'm trying to get out of it. But when people like MFL rip me off, it makes it really hard to reach my goals and make the changes in my life that I want and need to make.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
After investigation, I see Tammy has a valid point on the safety issue of this company

#68Consumer Suggestion

Sat, September 23, 2006

They are licensed as per the FMCSA website, however, thier safety rating is HORRIBLE!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Inspection results for 24 months prior to: 09/22/2006 Total inspections: 182 Note: Total inspections may be less than the sum of vehicle, driver, and hazmat inspections. Go to Inspections Help for further information. Inspections: Inspection Type Vehicle Driver Hazmat Inspections 115 182 0 Out of Service 33 35 0 Out of Service % 28.7% 19.2% 0% Nat'l Average %(2003) 22.92% 6.78% 5.26% Crashes reported to FMCSA by states for 24 months prior to: 09/22/2006 Crashes: Type Fatal Injury Tow Total Crashes 0 1 3 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDWEST FREIGHT LOGISTICS INCORPORATED DBA Name: Physical Address: 1401 FAIRFAX TRAFFICWAY KANSAS CITY, KS 66115 Phone: (913) 281-6300 Mailing Address: PO BOX 172138 KANSAS CITY, KS 66117 USDOT Number: 1276290 State Carrier ID Number: MC or MX Number: 496928 DUNS Number: -- Power Units: 11 Drivers: 9 MCS-150 Form Date: 08/16/2004 MCS-150 Mileage (Year): 1,200,000 (2004) Operation Classification: Operation Classification SAFER Layout X Auth. For Hire Exempt For Hire Private(Property) Priv. Pass. (Business) SAFER Layout Priv. Pass.(Non-business) Migrant U.S. Mail Fed. Gov't SAFER Layout State Gov't Local Gov't Indian Nation Carrier Operation: Carrier Operation SAFER Layout X Interstate SAFER Layout Intrastate Only (HM) SAFER Layout Intrastate Only (Non-HM) Cargo Carried: Cargo Carried SAFER Layout X General Freight X Household Goods X Metal: sheets, coils, rolls Motor Vehicles Drive/Tow away Logs, Poles, Beams, Lumber Building Materials Mobile Homes Machinery, Large Objects Fresh Produce SAFER Layout Liquids/Gases Intermodal Cont. Passengers Oilfield Equipment Livestock Grain, Feed, Hay Coal/Coke Meat Garbage/Refuse US Mail SAFER Layout Chemicals Commodities Dry Bulk Refrigerated Food Beverages Paper Products Utilities Agricultural/Farm Supplies Construction Water Well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, they are licensed, but clearly should NOT be.


Steve

Bradenton,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Tammy, Get a copy of that DAC report! Dispute that record.

#69Consumer Suggestion

Fri, September 22, 2006

Tammy, You are entitled to a FREE copy of the DAC report once per year under the FCRA. You have right to dispute. You also have the right to add a 100 word statement. As an employee, file a wage claim with the DOL. It is illegal for them to hold your pay, or to make any deductions that were not authorized by you in writing at time of hire. As far as the condition of the truck, especially the numerous blowouts. That was your choice to take an unsafe vehicle. That is the law. Nobody can force you to drive an unsafe vehicle. If you did a pretrip inspection and documented discrepancies they would have had no choice. It was up to you under federal law to take that vehicle out of service. If you chose to drive it, that was your mistake. Go to the FMCSA website and file a complaint against the carrier. You can also get a history on thier authority and a safety rating, which you can help make worse. You actually have the upper hand here. You just need to use the many resources available to you to get the leverage you need to beat them. Here is the contact info you will need. You need to put your request in writing, AND attach a legible copy of BOTH your DL and your SS card. Contact Us USIS Screening and Information Services Background and Drug Testing 4500 S. 129th East Avenue Suite 200 Tulsa, OK 74134-5885 866-205-6129 [email protected] Sales: 866-205-6129 (toll-free) [email protected] Consumer Support: 800-381-0645 (toll-free) Client Services: 800-322-9651 (toll-free) [email protected] Good luck.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
To Carol Ann

#70UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, September 22, 2006

Thanks for that advice - I will try as you suggested. I already reported this company today for doing business in the state of Missouri without a license. They will be getting a letter soon - LOL! I don't know if you will ever read this message, but if not, at least this is here for others to see. As for the guy who said "this is why you don't hire women drivers"....I have something to say to him....I don't understand why you titled your post that way. I find it very offensive and insulting. Whether you meant it that way or not, I don't know, but you wouldn't like it if someone wrote "This is why you don't hire men". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to drive a truck. There's plenty of mentally incapacitated people out there driving trucks, which is one fo the reason why I want out of it. I really don't like the caliber of people in this profession. I just made a very bad decision by getting into it. I think anybody who says they "loooooove" truck driving is absolutely NUTS!!! I'm not in this kind of work because I like it or because I want to be doing it. I'm kinda stuck right now due to some extremely extentuating circumstances. If I quit driving now, I'll be putting little pink stickers on people's packages when they walk through the doors of Wal-Mart, and I can't afford that (who can?) - especially being single. There's way too many people in this business who are very dishonest, and I am looking forward to getting out of it ASAP! Hopefully that will happen by the end of the year. But every single time somebody rips me off like this it set me behind for at least 6 months to a year from reaching that goal (and my other goals). I NEVER had a single problem with any company I have worked for....until I moved to Missouri. Now EVERY single company I've worked for since I moved here has ripped me off. It makes me want to run away - faaaaar away!!! I don't understand people like this. It's wrong. I wish people like this didn't exist on this earth - they don't deserve to be here, and the world would be a MUCH better place without them!


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
To Carol Ann

#71UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, September 22, 2006

Thanks for that advice - I will try as you suggested. I already reported this company today for doing business in the state of Missouri without a license. They will be getting a letter soon - LOL! I don't know if you will ever read this message, but if not, at least this is here for others to see. As for the guy who said "this is why you don't hire women drivers", I have something to say to him.. I don't understand why you titled your post that way. I find it very offensive and insulting. Whether you meant it that way or not, I don't know, but you wouldn't like it if someone wrote "This is why you don't hire men". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to drive a truck. There's plenty of mentally incapacitated people out there driving trucks, which is one fo the reason why I want out of it. I really don't like the caliber of people in this profession. I just made a very bad decision by getting into it. I think anybody who says they "loooooove" truck driving is absolutely NUTS!!! I'm not in this kind of work because I like it or because I want to be doing it. I'm kinda stuck right now due to some extremely extentuating circumstances. If I quit driving now, I'll be putting little pink stickers on people's packages when they walk through the doors of Wal-Mart, and I can't afford that (who can?) - especially being single. There's way too many people in this business who are very dishonest, and I am looking forward to getting out of it ASAP! Hopefully that will happen by the end of the year. But every single time somebody rips me off like this it set me behind for at least 6 months to a year from reaching that goal (and my other goals). I NEVER had a single problem with any company I have worked for, until I moved to Missouri. Now EVERY single company I've worked for since I moved here has ripped me off. It makes me want to run away - faaaaar away! I don't understand people like this. It's wrong. I wish people like this didn't exist on this earth - they don't deserve to be here, and the world would be a MUCH better place without them!


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
MFL Owners - CHEATS > LIARS > THIEVES!!!

#72Author of original report

Fri, September 22, 2006

::::::::::::::::::::: I just found out today directly from the owner of the building whom MWF leases their office from.....and he told me that MWF is behind on their rent TWO MONTHS - they owe him $7,000!!! :::::::::::::::::::::::


Carol Ann

Las Vegas,
Nevada,
U.S.A.
Hi

#73Consumer Suggestion

Thu, September 21, 2006

If these turkeys are not even licensed, you should be contacting and reporting them to the Department of Transportation also download form 3949A and report them to Internal Revenue Service, you'll recieve 10% of what they find wrong with the company. Federal Trade Commission is a good place to report them too. Make a wrtten complaint to EEOC as well, sounds like they lojacked you and given you a false record and it sounds like they are making these accusations to make themselves credible in a court of law. Fight them. Good luck


Hugh

Paducah,
Kentucky,
U.S.A.
This is why you don't hire women drivers.......

#74Consumer Suggestion

Thu, September 21, 2006

Tammy - sounds like life with a smaller carrier - for what you are looking for you need to talk to some of the big name national carriers. If your old employer is messing with your driving record unfairly, the chances are good that other carriers know about it and will listen to your side of the story.


Tammy

Grandview,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Cheats, Thieves & Liars!!! Wicked, Evil People!!!

#75Author of original report

Wed, September 20, 2006

I had to make ANOTHER extra trip - at my expense again - to the office to pickup my paycheck because these people don't keep their word and do what they say they're going to do, WHEN they SAY they're going to do it! They do whatever they want and to hell with anybody else! When I got to their office to pick up my paycheck, I had to wait an additional half-hour before they would even give me my check! And Kenny had the nerve to tell me to be patient!!! I was already patient enough for THREE MONTHS!!! I had already waited to get my paycheck that I already worked for and earned THREE MONTHS beforehand, and now they made me wait even longer to get my paycheck while I was standing outside their office !!! How RUDE and INCONSIDERATE!!! You would think that if they really wanted to settle this, that they would have had the check already to go as soon as I walked through the door. It would only be out of common courtesy and respect to do so. But none of the owners at Midwest Freight Lines understand the meaning of the words "courtesy", "respect", and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", or "you reap what you sow". I took the check to my bank the same day and deposited it. Good thing I didn't use any of the money to pay my rent that I'm a MONTH behind on, OR any of my utility bills that I have not paid for nearly THREE MONTHS now! Because I called the bank yesterday (Tuesday, September 19, 2006) to make sure the check cleared....and just as I expected - THE CHECK DID NOT CLEAR MY BANK because of INSUFFICIENT FUNDS!!!! I was hoping and counting on that check to clear? I didn't think it would, but I was giving these rotten people the benefit of the doubt. NOW I HAVE ONLY $100 in my bank account! If I had used ANY amount of that money for ANYthing, I would now have several bounced checks all over the place, and additionally, bounced check FEES that I would have to pay out of my OWN pocket thanks to MFL! Kendra laughed at me the day I left their office with the check in my hand.... ONLY SICK PEOPLE TAKE PLEASURE IN CAUSING OTHER PEOPLE PAIN!!!! You know as the saying goes...."Pride goeth before a fall"....and...."he who laughs first will laugh LAST!" Good on you Kendra! Good on you Kenny!....Good on you Jesse!....LAUGH ALL YOU WANT!!!.....WHEN YOU STAND BEFORE GOD, guess what???.....***YOU WON'T BE LAUGHING ANYMORE!!!*** When sitting in my attorney's office, Kenny told both me and my attorney that the ticket was taken care of on Wednesday....then he said Thursday...then he said it would be paid on Friday....so within less than five seconds, Kenny Wilson changed his story three separate times about when the ticket was/or was going to be paid! He also said that he wasn't trying to "hurt me". Can you say L-I-A-R??? YOU ALL HAVE DONE QUITE ALOT TO DO AS MUCH HARM TO ME AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY CONJURE UP IN YOUR WICKED, TWISTED, EVIL MINDS. YOU HAVE HURT ME ALOT!!! Like I said?. ONLY SICK PEOPLE TAKE PLEASURE IN CAUSING OTHER PEOPLE PAIN!!!! Kendra told me almost three months ago that the ticket was paid....IN THE YEAR 2006, of jet planes and cars, IT DOESN'T TAKE 10 DAYS OR EVEN THREE MONTHS FOR A PIECE OF MAIL TO GO 60 MILES!!! You cannot trust these people. These people are cheats, thieves and liars!!! As a result of their failed promises, bounced check, and all the heartache and financial hardship they have caused me, I am turning Midwest Freight Lines over to the Prosecuting Attorney's office. Thanks MFL....I gotchya right where I want ya! (You think you're soooo smart! - LOL!!!) Taking you directly to the Prosecuting Attorney is the best thing that could ever happen to me. Now you will have to pay up, OR GO TO JAIL!!!! AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA It sure beats attorneys, and having to wait three to six months to fight it out in court with you fecal covered buttfaces!!!! Is this what you teach your children to do? Is this how you tell your kids to treat others? I hope not!!!! Or this world is in really big trouble. I hope your kids don't turn out to be like you!!! I really wish I had never met any of you! What needs to happen is the law needs to take people like you, line you up against a wall with a firing squad, and shoot your brains out ? purge people like you from the face of this earth. THE WORLD would be a MUCH BETTER PLACE WITHOUT people LIKE YOU!!! Other countries would probably kill you for doing what you did to me....they kill people for drunk driving and adultery, and cut hands off for stealing. And what you did to me is STEALING!!! "I want to remind you that in the last days there will be scoffers who will laugh at the truth and do every evil thing they desire." 2 Peter 3:3 "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. "Therefore, as a tongue of fire consumes straw and as dry grass shrivels in the flame, so their roots will become like something rotten and their blossoms will blow away like dust, for they have rejected the instruction of the Lord of Hosts, and they have despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. Therefore the Lord's anger burns against His people. He raised His hand against them and struck them; the mountains quaked, and their corpses were like garbage in the streets. In all this, His anger is not removed, and His hand is still raised [to strike]." Isaiah 5:20, 24-25 "Ye shall not afflict any widow, OR FATHERLESS CHILD. If thou afflict them in ANY wise, and they cry AT ALL unto me, I will SURELY hear their cry; And my wrath shall WAX HOT, and I WILL KILL YOU with the sword; and your WIVES shall be WIDOWS, and YOUR CHILDREN FATHERLESS." (Exodus 22:22-24 KJV) ::::::::::::::::::::::::::: **This will remain on RipOffReport.com for all eternity for your children, your grandchildren, and their children's children to read how you people really are!!!

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