Emily
Salt Lake City,#2Consumer Suggestion
Mon, August 06, 2007
I too was treated wrongly by the church at a time in my life; now nearly seven years ago. At the time I found that I felt that some leaders are called to their position as an opportunity to condemn themselves. I discovered earlier this year that my step-daughter was being sexually abused by her mother's many boyfriends. At the hospital her mother actually called my bishop and told him... I know not what. but he believed a pack of lies she created. When I got on the phone with him he told me that not giving my step-daughter back could cost me my standing in the church and asked me if I willing to live with that. I told him I was. Unfornately in that brief second my step-daughter was shoved in a car and they fled; we have not seen them since. I could blame the church, or my bishop; for believing the lies, for taking my defenses down long enough for her to be taken. Should I have obeyed my bishop without question? No. Because I know inside me what is wrong and what is right. The church does not teach to obey blindly. The scripture that we memorized as children was, "And if any of ye lack wisdom let him ask of God who giveth to all men liberally and upbraideth not, and it shall be given him." From the time I could walk I was taught to think for myself. I am sorry for your wife; but she did consent to the situation. If she didn't feel GOOD about it, and I mean positive it was supposed to happen... why did she do it? I agree that those who have done wrong should be punished. But maybe there are things we do not know about this? Maybe there is a history we are not aware of? Remember they have access to all of our files. They often know more about our spouses then we do. For an example I cannot remember who baptised or confirmed my husband; I cannot remember who gave him his priesthoods. Those things are important; because there could be a wolf in among the sheep. My first husband was a pathalogical liar. The horrors he commited are recorded in his records. But only his leaders would know that. I know for a fact his new wife doesn't; because he told me she doesn't. He also keeps her far away from me so that I cannot tell her. If he makes allegations against me or my church leaders they are going to examine those facts that they have that his wife and/or friends do not. Plus because of church privacy, he cannot tell them why he decides as he does. He is a child abuser, spouse batterer, a rapist and behind on child support. She is unaware of any of this. I hope you aren't in the same boat I was. But remember they often know things we don't; and I am not talking about divine intervention.
Patricia
Palm Springs,#3Consumer Comment
Sat, December 20, 2003
The church is true, and I have no doubt about that, even though I am not active at this time.Everyone I have ever met within the church, has treated my family with repect and love and I will never forget that.I am sorry to hear that some do not feel the same, but regardless we should not judge, and as Jesus said, forgive and love. Time is too short to think otherwise.
Wayne
Ocoee,#4Author of original report
Thu, November 13, 2003
Area President Elder cook would not handle this matter I was told it was below his job, that it was Presidents Wangermans job and being that Pres. Wangemann is an stake Pres and an agent of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints his actins as stake pres of the sugerhill Ga. stake of the Church of Jesus Chris of latter-days saint condones out of marriage sex by church officals. and being that the church itself has turned its back on the matter also shows that it condones the matter. This Biphop has people claiming that he forced a 17 year to have sex with him that their are peated other counts and pres. Wangemann refuses to handle the matter base on friendship and the church office in salt lake has turn their back on all these matters stating that it is to be handle by Pres. Wangemann. Pres. Wangemann has also had four reports of tourest Threats againest him and the church has also dismissed this matter. So tell me does the church of Jesus of latter day saints acty for god or for the needs of man. I say man!!
Nicholas
Morgan City,#5Consumer Comment
Wed, November 12, 2003
I am not sure of the spcifics of what went on in this matter, but the title for your post is out of context. You make a claim that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints condones out of marriage sex. This is completely false. It is against church doctrine to act in such a manner. If you have not received any reponse in regards to your matter, then I urge you to take the matters up with higher officials. Below is the contact information: LDS Foundation 15 E. South Temple 2nd Floor East Salt Lake City, UT 84150 1-801-240-5567