Complaint Review: Motorcars Toyota - Internet

was posted at Ripoff Report on October 26, 2007.

Anyone can type in 281113 at this site and read it. The poem is about Toyota's defective vehicles. It appears that the poem is true and accurate, wouldn't everyone agree?

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Amy made several references to "break" pads.

"Breaks" are not covered under any warranty.

Did you mean "brakes"?

Cars have BRAKES, people take BREAKS.

Anytime you have a problem where the company or campanies involved pass the buck, you really need to stay off the phone.

These complaints need to be in writing, and sent via certified mail, return reciept requested. Be sure to put the certified# on the letter itself, and keep a copy for your records, as this proves exactly what you sent. This procedure protects your rights if action needs to be taken in court.

Actually, Karl mentions something about a 2003 Sequoia recall which I

could find info regarding a voluntary recall if I 'GOOGLE' it..

TORRANCE, Calif., April 28, 2010 – Toyota Motor Sales (TMS),

U.S.A., Inc., today announced it will conduct a voluntary safety recall

on approximately 50,000 early-2003 Model-Year Toyota Sequoia sport

utility vehicles to upgrade program logic in its Vehicle Stability

Control (VSC) system.

 

The VSC system can help control a loss of traction in turns as a

result of front or rear tire slippage during cornering.  In vehicles

without the upgrade, the VSC system could, in limited situations,

activate at low speed (approximately 9 mph) for a few seconds after

acceleration from a stopped position and, as a result, the vehicle may

not accelerate as quickly as the driver expects.  There have been no

reported injuries or accidents as a result of this condition.

And, as far as a 2009 Camry only regarding the floor mats and sticky accelerator pedal...

Field workaround for sudden unintended acceleration

Different "workarounds," user actions that ameliorate or prevent a

negative, previously unforeseen circumstance, have been suggested as

temporary fixes:

Putting the car's transmission in neutral during out-of-control acceleration disengages the gears;[78]Turning the ignition to the ACC (accessory) position, which, while

cutting power to the engine, will also disable the power steering and

the brake assist.Turning the ignition key to the OFF position, which will also cut

power, but may cause lockage of the steering wheels and will also

disable the power steering and the brake assist.[79]

On whether braking alone may fail to stop affected vehicles, a driver

account in the Los Angeles Times claimed that the attempt to stop a 2005

Camry was unsuccessful with both the brake and emergency brake.[80] However, tests of the Camry by Car and Driver

in 2009, attempting to use the brakes to stop acceleration of a

purposely-stuck throttle at 70, 100, and 120 mph, found that the test

driver was able to reduce speed to 10 mph in all instances, and in the

70 and 100 mph tests, stop the car completely.[81][82]

The Camry's braking distances with a purposely-stuck accelerator were

also shorter than that of the Ford Taurus' regular stopping distance.[81] Car and Driver

concluded that, based on their emergency stopping tests, the Camry's

brakes could overcome the accelerator in all cases even without a brake

override, and that stopping distances with a wide-open throttle were

largely indiscernible from regular braking.[81]

In 2010, Edmunds.com also tested the stopping distances of a Toyota

Camry SE V6 with a purposely stuck wide-open throttle. Their tests found

that the car's brakes could override a stuck accelerator and bring the

car to a stop. Although the transmission downshifted and the engine

continued to propel the car, stopping distance compared "favorably to a

normal panic stop on wet asphalt."[83]

Edmunds.com did note that switching to neutral was the best option,

given that average drivers may not press the brakes as firmly, and

lighter presses will simply wear the brakes down.[83] The German

Commission on Technical Compliance (TÜV) of Rheinland also tested the

stopping distance of Toyota iQ, Aygo, Yaris, Auris, Verso, Avensis and

RAV4 models.[84] With the accelerator purposely jammed to 80% of maximum speed, each vehicle was able to brake safely to a halt.[84]

The TÜV findings indicated that each model met the legal requirements

for deceleration and stopping distances, and that all Toyota models

tested had brakes which could override a stuck accelerator.[84]

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make sure to 'Google' all of the following on the web-

WHISTLEBLOWER: TOYOTA-GM PLANT HID DEFECTS

MY LEXUS IS DEFECTIVE (Watch the 9 minute 34 second video.)

CONSUMER COMPLAINTS ABOUT TOYOTA AIRBAGS

RECALLING TOYOTA'S RECALLS: OVER 14 MILLION VEHICLES RECALLED CHEERSANDGEARS

Good luck to you!

*********************************    TOYOTA ALERT    ********************************

*Don't forget to 'Google' this- TOYOTA TWITTER SLUDGE, and go to that site every day to stay updated about Toyota.

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But nothing I can find anywhere in an online internet search tells of any problems with a 2009 Camry having excessive tire wear or as Karl suggests... "tires falling off"

Actually, Karl mentions something about a 2003 Sequoia recall which I could find info regarding a voluntary recall if I 'GOOGLE' it..

TORRANCE, Calif., April 28, 2010 – Toyota Motor Sales (TMS),

U.S.A., Inc., today announced it will conduct a voluntary safety recall

on approximately 50,000 early-2003 Model-Year Toyota Sequoia sport

utility vehicles to upgrade program logic in its Vehicle Stability

Control (VSC) system.

 

The VSC system can help control a loss of traction in turns as a

result of front or rear tire slippage during cornering.  In vehicles

without the upgrade, the VSC system could, in limited situations,

activate at low speed (approximately 9 mph) for a few seconds after

acceleration from a stopped position and, as a result, the vehicle may

not accelerate as quickly as the driver expects.  There have been no

reported injuries or accidents as a result of this condition.

And, as far as a 2009 Camry only regarding the floor mats and sticky accelerator pedal...

Field workaround for sudden unintended acceleration

Different "workarounds," user actions that ameliorate or prevent a

negative, previously unforeseen circumstance, have been suggested as

temporary fixes:

Putting the car's transmission in neutral during out-of-control acceleration disengages the gears;[78]Turning the ignition to the ACC (accessory) position, which, while

cutting power to the engine, will also disable the power steering and

the brake assist.Turning the ignition key to the OFF position, which will also cut

power, but may cause lockage of the steering wheels and will also

disable the power steering and the brake assist.[79]

On whether braking alone may fail to stop affected vehicles, a driver account in the Los Angeles Times claimed that the attempt to stop a 2005 Camry was unsuccessful with both the brake and emergency brake.[80] However, tests of the Camry by Car and Driver

in 2009, attempting to use the brakes to stop acceleration of a

purposely-stuck throttle at 70, 100, and 120 mph, found that the test

driver was able to reduce speed to 10 mph in all instances, and in the

70 and 100 mph tests, stop the car completely.[81][82]

The Camry's braking distances with a purposely-stuck accelerator were

also shorter than that of the Ford Taurus' regular stopping distance.[81] Car and Driver

concluded that, based on their emergency stopping tests, the Camry's

brakes could overcome the accelerator in all cases even without a brake

override, and that stopping distances with a wide-open throttle were

largely indiscernible from regular braking.[81]

In 2010, Edmunds.com also tested the stopping distances of a Toyota

Camry SE V6 with a purposely stuck wide-open throttle. Their tests found

that the car's brakes could override a stuck accelerator and bring the

car to a stop. Although the transmission downshifted and the engine

continued to propel the car, stopping distance compared "favorably to a

normal panic stop on wet asphalt."[83]

Edmunds.com did note that switching to neutral was the best option,

given that average drivers may not press the brakes as firmly, and

lighter presses will simply wear the brakes down.[83] The German Commission on Technical Compliance (TÜV) of Rheinland also tested the stopping distance of Toyota iQ, Aygo, Yaris, Auris, Verso, Avensis and RAV4 models.[84] With the accelerator purposely jammed to 80% of maximum speed, each vehicle was able to brake safely to a halt.[84]

The TÜV findings indicated that each model met the legal requirements

for deceleration and stopping distances, and that all Toyota models

tested had brakes which could override a stuck accelerator.[84]

the tires will not necessarily last as long as they should, right? If the car has defective parts where the tires are located, then the tires may wear excessively and could even fall off of the vehicle, correct?

You can 'Google' this- TOYOTA AVOIDS 2003 SEQUOIA RECALL, and watch that video on the web to see that this is true. The entire wheel fell off of that Toyota Sequoia on I-95, right?

Toyota has recalled over 14 Million vehicles in the last two years, correct? So it would be safe to assume that your car may have had some type of a defect that resulted in abnormal tire wear, wouldn't you agree?

Good luck to you!

You bring up an interesting theory that has precedence in case law-remember the Ford/Bridgestone tire fiasco??? But I'm curious about your tire wear during this 30,000 miles.How often did you have your wheel alignment checked/adjusted?

How often did you check your tires for proper inflation? How often did you have the tires rotated?

I've been purchasing new vehicles since 1974 and every new vehicle I purchased clearly stated that the tires were warranteed by the tire manufacturer.

  I think I see the issue here (at least in regards to tires).   You have an idea of what you think the Toyota warranty should cover.   That differs substantially from what the warranty actually covers.   I would venture to guess that you have not even bothered to read your car's warranty or you wouldn't be posting such uninformed nonsense here.  

  I know of no manufacturer that warrants the tires that come with a new vehicle.   Since you know so much about how warranties work, perhaps you can give us an example of one that does.

" As for tires issues...Toyota would not inform me of the make, model or manufacture of the tires or any other information regarding warranties. Here's a suggestion. Walk out to car. Bend down next to tire. Read lettering ON TIRES. Said L-E-T-T-E-R-I-N-G will TELL YOU the; make, model or manufacturer of said tires. I know that's a real burden but try it. Also, EVERY new vehicle I've ever purchased had a tire manufacturer's warranty card either in the glove box or in the vehicle's handbook telling you what steps to take concering tire warranties. Here's another suggestion. Sit in car. Open glove box. Look for  tire warranty card. By not bothering to either take the time to actually LOOK at your tires to see who MFG them or looking in the glovebox, I don't think I'd be taking your complaints all that seriously either considering BOTH come under "wear" items under the vehicle's warranty.