Nathan York, Vintage Motors LLC OKC OK 73101 uses deceptive pictures and descriptions to sell junk cars on EBay.
We purchased a MGB that he described as “Mechanically refreshed ... to make sure it was road ready.” In addition to this description, the pictures he posted of the car did not match the condition of the car we received. One picture showed the vehicle with an opened trunk and the inside had no damage. However, we received a car which had a broken trunk lock mechanism and we weren’t able to open the trunk for days. When we finally opened the trunk we discovered there was damaged to the left wheel well. This damage was not shown on the pictures he posted on eBay. When confronted with this information Mr. York tried to blame the trunk issue on a possible break-in during transit, which was very unlikely since the trunk lock was completely inoperable due to a missing part of the lock mechanism. This necessary piece of the lock was not present inside the trunk when we finally got the trunk opened, which clearly shows that the lock was already malfunctioning while in his possession otherwise we would have found the missing part inside or other items that were inside missing. Another picture showed a firewall gasket in place on the passenger side, but the car we received had wires incorrectly sent through that opening without a gasket in place. The exhaust pipe also was different on the pictures from the car we received.
Most importantly, Mr. York claimed that the car was “road ready”. The car did not go more than just a few miles before it began to present strong fuel smells, engine sputter, power issues, steering and front end wheel misbalance endangering us on the road. Not to mention the numerous holes on the undercarriage panel when Mr. York claimed the car had no rust. Nathan York did not bother to repost updated pictures of the car on EBay, so prospective bidders could see the true condition of the MGB. Had he done that, it is possible we wouldn't have purchased this MGB for that price.
Mr. York, will tell you that the car is 40 years old and these things are to be expected. He also will tell you that all these damages and issues we are reporting are 'hitting him from left field because he was not aware of them.' It is obvious that the pictures he used to sell this car on EBay were taken before the car was involved in some type of accident which left the car in a non-driveable unsafe condition. Judging from the pictures and description, we thought we were bidding on a fairly nice and driveable MGB. We were deceived by his bogus pictures of the car and false description of its condition. This MGB was Not Road Ready, as he claimed. It is costing us over $4000 to get it safe to drive, another $2000 to correct the rusted panels underneath.
The ‘as is’ statement is not a license to scam people. We were ripped-off by Nathan York of Vintage Motors LLC, Oklahoma City, OK because he did not described the true current condition of the car, and the pictures he posted on EBay were not of the most current condition of the car. Buyer Beware!!!
#2Author of original report
Sun, December 20, 2015
I think you have me confused with someone else. There was never any offer of help from you with any of these issues we had with the car or explanation as to why the pictures were so different from the car we received. Had you reached out and offered this help whatever it may have been, I am sure we would have been able to reach an agreement and been very appreciative. This report is our opinion and a Buyer Beware from our experience. We have pictures to prove advertised ad and the many differences after car was delivered.
Nathan
OKC ,#3REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sat, December 19, 2015
I hated to see that you decided to take to the Internet to try to defame me. No one ever tried to deceive you and contrary to your post here nothing like what you described ever happened. It's ridiculous to think there was a conspiracy to defraud you out of a small amount of money on this Mgb. Do you really think that I took pictures of a car which was then wrecked and sold to you as perfect? You bought a 40 year old car for much less than book value that was a good driver. No one ever told you it was perfect or had never had any rust ever. It had a few small patches in the floors some long ago and some evidence of a fender bender in the rear quarter that had been fixed. Both of these were done long ago before my company bought the car. These are normal for a car of this age, condition and price range. There are very few mgbs out there that have never had any fender benders or floor board rust. You exaggerate all that you mention. Again, I have no idea what happened to the trunk lock but this is a common thing to break with someone that is not careful or tries to use the wrong key. I can only assume the transport company you hired broke it. Even so, I offered to help. I also don't know what happened to make the car die when you drove it. As I mentioned to you, I had spent thousands on it just recently with a British car repair shop. Things happen on 40 year old cars. It's just the way it is. Again I offered to help., but you were unreasonable. This being the only classic car you have ever owned may be the main problem here. You were difficult to work with the entire time as well. I have sold many cars over the years to enthusiasts and collectors like myself. I try to do right by people but some people can never be satisfied. My patience has been exhausted