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Red Legends Bordeaux RedLegends Bordeaux Sold me a show dog for $3300 that is structurally incorrect, skittish with a level 2 heart murmur for breeding Warkworth, Ontario
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Hi Everyone,
I just wanted to let everyone know what Red Legends Bordeaux has done to me.
I had orginally met Cathy online after speaking to her about purchasing a male puppy for show and breeding. I placed a $500 deposit on a male puppy. All I can say is she talked a good game. She sounded like a prestigious kennel. NOT THE CASE. IF YOU SAW HOW SHE AND HER DOGS LIVED...YOU WOULD THINK TWICE. Her dogs live in crates 24/7. Her "kennel" is a 2 car garage with (last time I was there) 26 crates lined all along the garage. No water in the crates. The dogs are let out 2 to 3 times a day for 10 minutes to eliminate and put back in the crate. They do not have much human interaction. Her children (youngest is 14 I believe) are not allowed in the kennels to let the dogs out...only a few dogs can go out together, otherwise they fight...which is not uncommon for caged dogs...and you can't expect 20 plus dogs to all get along. So, when they are let out for that short time, they have to eliminate and get their water. Sometimes, the farmer next door has a calf that dies, and she feeds that to her dogs, the whole animal in the field for the dogs to shred. NOT where I want to get a puppy. So prior to this knowledge....I purchased a puppy from her and had a deposit on a male.....
After weeks of emails telling me this litter was phenominal and I needed to get in on this litter, I purchased a puppy. I paid $3300 for a show dog. See, with Red Legends, if you tell her you want a pet, she sells them for $2000-$2500, when you tell her it's for show....it automatically goes to $3300 and up. It doesn't matter if the dog is good looking or structurally correct...what matters is the almighty buck!
When I got the female puppy off the plane, I was very disappointed. The dog was not show quality. First and foremost, her ears looked like pitbull ears on the top of her head. She was VERY skittish. She was cute...but all puppies are cute....but she was not a quality bordeaux. She also told me that both parents passed their health testing....a lie....which is the only reason I spent $3300 for a puppy.
She told me to give her some time, she will turn out. I agreed to some time. At 6 months, we went to a show in Syracuse NY. A large show with 2 of the puppy's siblings. Cathy was there as well. When the 2 female puppies went into the ring, the judge withheld first place and told us she never wanted to see these 2 in the ring again. Cathy was there for that comment. Cathy said they were going through a "wonky" stage at that time and to reevaluate at a year old. I waited. A few more shows and very derogative judge comments and I told Cathy she was not show quality. She agreed with me and told me this whole litter was crazy. She told me to sell her and she would replace her. I gave her first right of refusal like her contract states. She told me she couldn't take her back, but advised me to sell her. It broke my heart. I am very attached to my pets, but I couldn't keep her...hubby said no. He said I couldn't get another dog unless I sold Froggie. So I found a nice couple for Froggie. Rick and Audrey fell in love with Froggie when they met her. I told them her price was $2000. They agreed. I also advised them that Cathy said the warranty would transfer with her. He asked if he could speak with Cathy. I gave him the number and after his conversation with Cathy, he told me Cathy told him to pay me $1500 for Froggie. Cathy told Rick to send her the remaining $500. She told him the $500 was for the extension of the warranty. Rick knew what I was going through with Cathy and decided against the warranty since she was not standing behind the dog with me. So I ended up losing $500 right off the top.
Now in the meantime, I was still waiting for my male puppy. She had not yet produced it. We were talking about studs and I told her I had a particular stud in mind. She checked him out online and decided he would be a good match to the female. She then told me if I wanted that stud, she didn't have the funds for the stud fee, but if I paid the stud fee, the breeding could happen. I told her if I paid the stud fee, I get pick of the litter. She agreed. I sent the money to Italy. It was $1500. The breeding never happened, the dog in Italy died unfortunately in an earthquake. The Italian breeder sent her the refund. So I was still waiting after over 16 months for my male. I asked her for a refund of the $1500 so I could buy a male elsewhere. She told me to use the $1500 I got from the sale of Froggie for the stud fee and she would ship me a new puppy to replace the female (Froggie). I agreed to that and waited for my replacement puppy.
So, I had heard she had a couple of litters and asked where I stood on the list for my replacement. She told me I didn't. She said you sold Froggie, you got $1500, that's it. I was surprised since I had been waiting for my new puppy. So I said to her, "you used that money for the reimbursement of the stud fee you owed me", she said, "Yes". I was dumbfounded. Scenario: I sold a dog I owned and she used that money to pay her debt to me, yet now, she decides she's not going to send me a puppy???? Again...need to say this to wrap my head around it....I sold a dog I OWNED and she used it to pay HER DEBT and refuses to send me the $1500 now. It's ridiculous!! She also said she thought Rick was in with me and we were going to breed Froggie.
So then she says to spay her, show her proof of spay and she will replace. I did. She retracted again.
In the interim, this woman also decided to file a false report with the ASPCA stating I have 7 skinny horses, my dogs are thin, and she doesn't know if my kids have food in their tummies. I was floored. First of all, I am an approved rescue home for neglected horses. I had 6 horses, not 7. One was thin, but he had just come in and was under vet care. He is still fairly thin, but he's in renal failure...he's 30 and he's dying. He's still eating, sleeping and happy, so he's not ready to be put to sleep. He will tell me when it's time. The poor thing was starving to death when I rescued him. He's gained 200 lbs, but won't gain anything more. Anyway, so the ASPCA gave me the information on the complainant since it was a false complaint. It was Cathy. She is trying to get out of having to pay me the $3300.
Then she says she wants me to show proof of heart or hip issue. She walked and trotted off with a bad limp...but during the spay, the dog almost died under anesthesia, so hips were out of the question as you have to anesthetize her. Because she is so skittish, the vet said in order to do an EKG on her heart, they would have to sedate her. Her new owners do not want to put her under anesthesia. I can't blame them. So we again had a discussion and she told me to do an auscultation and if her heart came back bad, she would reimburse me. I paid for the auscultation by a board certified cardiologist, and she has a level 2 heart murmur, which definitely disqualifies her for breeding.
I sent her the paperwork from the cardiologist, and she again refused. After a heated discussion, she texted me "Fine, I will send you the money but you have to wait until my litter is due which is November 10th". I waited patiently. The puppies were born on September 4th which meant they went home around Oct 30, 2010. I have sent her a few emails, texts, called her (cell phone disconnected, home phone no machine, emails returned) and I finally got in touch with her yesterday November 7, 2010. She told me to go "explicit" myself and hung up on me.
I have no choice but to take her to court. I have to warn you all, honestly, she is a puppy mill with no scrupples. She has pumped out more than 200 puppies in 10 years. She is breeding a bunch right now. She doesn't care about the breed. She cares about the money. It's just a source of income for her. Her dogs are not vaccinated against k9 disease and her entire kennel has had kennel cough several times in the last year. Several dogs have died because of this, one of which was a beautiful bulldog she got from a past client. She takes sick dogs to shows and spreads disease to top it off.
She has 4 horses as well. Her 4 horses have no shelter all winter, no even good trees...same in summer (she has one shoddy shelter that's 8x8 and is falling down), no water except a urine/poop filled pooling of water that sits stagnant on her property. And in the winter, her horses just eat snow for water. It's not proper water for her horses. Winter snow, once it's dried out, has no water in it. Its horrible.
I am turning her in to the ASPCA for the deplorable conditions that these animals live in. I hope everyone reads this and sees what a horrible situation this woman puts forth. I am a breeder of Bordeauxs. I show my dogues. My dogs live in my home, under my feet. The sleep in my room as well as with my girls. My dogs have earned their CGC (Canine Good Citizen) and we are working on some nursing homes to bring them into for therapy dogs. Dogs need humans....they don't need a cage in a garage. They need to be with you...especially this breed. They are very very devoted to their families. Jewish families used to get them during WWII to protect them during Hitler's reign. That's how much people mean to these dogs.
Please think twice before buying a dog from her. She offers a contract but doesn't stand behind it. Her contract for hips only guarantees severe crippling hip dysplasia. A puppy who has that before 18 months would be almost crippled at birth. It would never make it out into the general population.
I will keep you all updated and if anyone wants to see the copies of the emails she has sent me, I would be glad to send them to you.
I know she and her little deciples will try and discredit me, but I will prove it with emails, texts, and the court documents when I get them back. I am a good breeder, reputable, and stand behind my dogs. I have been breeding for 6 years, and I have only produced 28 puppies. I have had a couple of puppies with issues...one of which was bred to her dog...and 2 puppies from that sire...2 different breeders, unrelated dams have come down with the same disease. The owners will receive another puppy puppy from me when they are ready. The other puppy was from my first breeding. He had underdeveloped kidneys, a birth defect. When he died, I gave them another puppy, no questions asked. I don't want what was done to me, to be done to someone else. Yes, I have a contract. It has a 2 year guarantee and a lifetime of breeder support. I don't just sell you a dog and send you on your way...you become part of the family. I do carry a $500 non refundable deposit as is normal among breeders.
I hope you all can see what I am going through and realize, this is not the person you want to get a dog from.
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a neighbour in Dartford
Warkworth, Ontario,Alabama,
Starving Horses owned by Cathy Smith
#2General Comment
Mon, July 21, 2014
I have just read the complaints against Red Legends. I live near the kennel and pass by it everyday. I know of the farmer neighbour who was accused of leaving dead calves in a field and Cathy Smith feeds these to her dogs.
This farmer would never leave dead animals in his fields, ever. He is a responsible and thoughtful cattle farmer who has to watch how badly Cathy Smith looks after the animals she owns.
I have seen him regularly put a big bale of hay in the coral where the horses live. He does this because he is distressed to watch how this person does not care properly or humanely with her horses in particular.
He gives the horses hay and gets no remuneration from the owner.
I just wanted to set the record straight.
Screwed in NH
Amherst,New Hampshire,
United States of America
Red Legends Bordeaux is a puppy mill!
#3Author of original report
Sat, November 13, 2010
This is a rebuttal to what was just posted. Actually I only know of 3 dogs that rebutter has...but must have just gotten a 4th....or maybe that was the replacement puppy that she got for her dog from the same litter. But the other 3 dogs that this rebutter has....her male had to be humanely euthanized, God rest his soul, because he had some sort of neurological disorder. I never said wobblers in my complaint, the rebutter did....we are not sure it's wobblers, but it is some sort of genetic disorder that this sire passed on to 2 puppies from different litter, different dams. The second dog she co owns, has a bad temperament, the third, which is a sibling of the dog in my complaint (which she is getting a replacement for), she placed in a home down south, and the dog came back in just a couple days. Not sure of the issue....but the dog came back. So 4 dogs from Red Legends, and only 1 is breedable? And I wouldn't breed a dog with that temperament. Just my opinion....but a good temperament is key to a family dog...above all else.
She personally told me the farmer has calves that die on occasion and he drops them over the fence for her. That was her statement, not mine. She also told me that if she sees partridges sunning on the road, she will "knick" them, pick them up and take them home for dinner. Again, what she said, not me...swear that on my kids.
And yes, IF SHE REPLACED THE DOG OR REIMBURSED ME SHE WOULD BE ENTITLED TO THE $1500, BUT SHE'S NOT.
And again, the dog is very sensitive to anesthesia and almost died. That's what I said and I will say it again. As a matter of fact, I will contact the owners and ask them to post their side of the story with Froggie so you can see why. The EKG is under anesthesia, and the owners refuse anesthesia...that's why Cathy told me to get her an auscultation by a certified cardiologist.
"Sickly"...I would not call a dog with a level 2 heart murmur sickly, I would deem her unbreedable, but that's what Cathy put her up for sale for so that she would replace her...I didn't. She said she had to recoup at least $1500.
Here are the emails. The first is the email from Rick after speaking with Cathy.
Fri, October 2, 2009 11:10:08 AMRE: From: Rick A View Contact To: Tracy L -------- Hi Tracy, No big deal with Redlegends. The woman is a trip and pretty nervy now that I think about it. The more I thought about this the more I'm really put off. Not just at her asking me to pay her $2K for a dog she doesn't even own. But also for asking for $500 for a warranty that's already in place (with only 11 months left) that she's already not honoring. They must have reaaaaally good drugs in Ontario! Anyway, we are really excited about Froggie and can't wait to get her. And thank you for working with me on her. I'm sure she's just fine. I did call Jenn after 7 last night but wasn't able to get her. Soooo. Not sure what to do here. Cale's litter does have two males pups available now. I'll send you the pictures of both the pups and the mom (I'd like to hear your opinion). Do you know what Jenn is asking for pups? The Kadus/Nemo-Muppet combo sounds very desirable. I'd just hate to loose out on Cale's pups if no males end up being available from Jenn's litter. Or I can't get a hold of her :) . The other plus for me with Cale is that I can get the pup earlier before snow fall so I can start house breaking earlier. Any thoughts? - Rick
Then this group of emails goes back and forth with Cathy. I do get mad because for a month she refuses to answer me. Can you blame me??
In this email she offers me the difference between pet and show which is $1300 added to the $1500 I already received for her sale. Plus she would owe me the $1500 for the stud fee I paid. So in this scenario, I would only be out $500.
-------Original Message------- From: Tracy L Date: 3/15/2010 11:53:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: refund Cathy, I have been waiting over a month for a response from you in reference to Froggie. I haven't heard back from you and I have been more than patient. I emailed you several times asking for an answer. We have been going around and around about this Froggie issue. I don't think an answer from you is unreasonable. You told me you weren't going to send me a show quality female, that you didn't feel "comfortable" with sending me a replacement puppy because it wasn't the same "caliber". You owe me $3300 for Froggie since she had many issues. You told me that to send you proof of spay, which I did...and you would replace. Now I'm sitting here, in the dark, not knowing where to go from here. I am not asking for more than I'm due. You have a litter of puppies that are all sold on the ground currently. I expect $3300 from you when these puppies are sold. If I don't hear from you, I will be filing in court in Canada. I am not playing games and I expect an answer. Tracy
------Original Message------ From: RedLegends To: "Tracy L" Date: Tue, Mar 16, 8:32 AM -0400 Subject: Re: refund Hello, I have requested Proof of Froggie's many issues that you say she has. You say she has a heart issue?? No proof of Echo has been given to back up this claim?? You say her hips are crap?? No proof of a certified Penn-hip has been given to back this claim?? The only offer I will now give you is the difference in price between breeding potential to pet which is 1300. As for the sale of Froggie I gave you the option of selling her and keeping the money, which would cover the deposit that you put on another litter, otherwise she would have been returned to me. Cathy
-------Original Message------- From: Tracy L Date: 03/16/10 10:58:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: refund I offered to send her back and you said you couldnt take her. Dont pull this s**t with me Cathy...now its on. I will be filing in court and you will owe me all. I did not say her hips were crap I told her her knee was screwed up as evident by her walk and what you saw and reiterated to me. The dog had not only temperament issues but vet heard a heart murmur, her knee was messed up and her ears looked like a gargoyle and her jaw was way overshot. I will be taking you to court for this as well as suing you for a false report with the SPCA. I told you I wpuld take a puppy and you refused. It comes to this after I ask and ask for a response and finally I get angry and u do this. We are no longer friends, you are a puppy mill which I will be filing a ripoff report as well so anyone finding your kennel online will find the ripoff report and not purchase from you. if you want this, then go ahead and not refund me the full $3300. You have 24 hrs to respond. ---------- Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone
Tue, March 16, 2010 11:25:36 AM Re: refund From: RedLegends View Contact To: Tracy L -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tracey, I asked for proof, you agreed to have her heart done, now you refuse. I do not guarantee looks,she was sold as breeding/show potential, I guarantee health period. Show me she is unhealthy, is that to much to ask???? Can you not take her to have her heart certified by a cardiologist to show she is not a breeding dog??? I also gave you the option of her hips?? No luck there either?? I asked for proof of her knee, questioning knee injury,which you disagreed??? No proof there either. What , you think I will just say hey sure heres your money or replacement with no proof??? Even the courts would agree that what I am asking is reasonable. And by the way your local vet does not qualify as a certified cardiologist unless he/she has the paper to back that claim up. So if that is the route you wish to go then fine, but the more simple route would be to have one of the 3 options I have given you done and provide proof. Remember I will not accept any of them unless it is done by a certified cardio or Penn-hip. If it is the knee route you wish to go then a letter from your vet and a copy of the xrays to be sent to my vet for review. If it is found that it is not due to injury then I will refund you your money minus what expenses I have incurred during this. Cathy
-------Original Message------- From: Tracy L Date: 3/16/2010 2:56:21 PM To: [email protected] The last u left it with me....you said to send u proof of spay and that would be all u needed. I sent u that. Its not me who is refusing to do it. Aubrey doesnt want to put her under any stress or anesthesia...she almost died! The dog had massive bleeding after spay and numerous issues for a few weeks after. She wont put her thru anesthesia again. You told me a couple of weeks ago that you would send me 2300 but you were keeping the 500 deposit and the 500 you lost on Froggie. I had nothing to do with ur conversation with Rick. I should not be penalized for that...that was your doing not mine. Then u wouldnt answer me for weeks. I think I deserved an answer Bottom line...I told u I would take a puppy...u refused to give me 1. Your non refundable deposit applies only if I refuse to take delivery of a puppy in the first place. I took delivery....commented on her screwed up ears from the start. The Judges have twice told me she was crap...u were there for 1 of them. I am not losing anything for your mistakes. Although u might feel a dog with extreme shyness, screwed up ears and a heart murmur is suitable for breeding...I dont and neither do many of our colleagues. If you want to avoid issues, stand behind your dogues. I stand behind mine. Be the breeder you claim to be. You told me to send u proof of spay...I did... and u would replace and work on our friendship. Well the friendship thing is gone. At least stand behind ur dogues ---------- Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone
Tue, March 16, 2010 3:17:55 PMRe: From: RedLegends View Contact To: Tracy L -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well then, I can understand why you do not want to put her under a local but I did not just say proof of spay, I said proof of spay and heart. Having her heart certified you do not have to put her under a local so there is no fear of her dropping dead. As for being the breeder I claim to be, I still am but any breeder will ask for proof of the claims you are making. I can not just give total refunds or replacements with out proof. I am not saying I will not stand behind my dog I am saying prove what you claim first. Cathy
Wed, March 17, 2010 12:44:27 AMRe: From: Tracy L View Contact To: RedLegends -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, so let me make sure I get this straight so we are both on the same page here...and no confusion: Letter from a board certified cardiologist stating she has a heart murmur, or knee xray to prove no injury but genetic or hips and with any of these, you will give me a full refund. I can't do hips or knee because of anesthesia issue. I might be able to get an OFA xray without anesthesia to show hip issue IF there is one as this was never an allegation (although you only guarantee severe dysplasia or is that different for breeding/show dogues) so I guess just cardio is all I can do because of anesthesia. I told you before of her issues with anesthesia. You need to understand why I am angry because I have asked you for months about this whole issue and have been emailing you for over 6 weeks with no response. A couple of weeks ago you offered me 2300 because of "no proof" and now things have changed. I mean first and foremost Cathy, that dog was not breeding quality just by looking at her. How many judges have to tell me to send her back or never bring her in the ring again? I originally asked you for the difference between pet and show...and you refused...so my only option was to sell her. I asked you to take her back and you said you couldn't, that I could sell her and put that money towards the stud fee you owed me from that puppy that never happened, and that you would replace her...then things again got all screwed up....the wind blew the wrong way...you quit smoking...something...and changed your mind again. You did originally say to me, just get me proof of spay showing shes rendered non breedable and you would replace. I have the email/text message...I will find it if you want just to show you. Just a question for you...do you think that I would sell and spay a dog that I loved very much, that I had a year into .....feeding, showing, medical stuff, training....and would be able to breed in a year....for no reason. No! I miss her very much. She was my Frogga! But reiterating again....she was not breeding quality. Quality, unfortunately, she was lacking. That whole litter was messed up.....pretty much. Arainia, Lola, Secret, and Froggie that I know of. Lola is pretty, but heart murmur, Secret is cute, but first and foremost...terrible temperament skittish, Arainia weak in rear end...and Froggie (heart murmur, knee, jaw way undershot, ears f####d, and very shy [I got the very last puppy])...need I say more. I want to get this straightened out. I need to. By the way, Diesel and Fiona (last years litter Cajun pups) are turning out phenominal. Just thought you would like to know. Tracy
Wed, March 17, 2010 10:33:48 AMRe: From: Tracy L View Contact To: RedLegends -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, I will except auscultation from a board certified cardiologist, not your vet since I understand about the ansthesa. Cathy Sent from my BlackBerry powered by Virgin Mobile.
And before this all happened....here is her email stating she would replace Froggie and I just have to find a home for her. This email was sent when she was being nice to me after her "daughter" filed the false ASPCA Report.
-----Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" To: Tracy L Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 3:56:41 PM Subject: Re: Cajuns DNA Hello Tracey I did not mean no for Cajun's dna, must be cross wires. I've tried to call to figure out what you mean for the box? The letters that is above that box is AC is that what your looking for? As for sending you the money back right now so you can put your deposit on the new one, sorry I can't, I was not prepared to do that when we talked earlier, I can not do it till the next litters are sold. If you can sell froggy for the amount owing then you can keep that, I will not give full guarantee for her to new owners at a cheaper amount though. If you want a replacement pup out of Legent her puppies for show are selling for more then what you paid for froggy so you will need to pay the difference in price, you paid 3000., for froggy and Legents are 3500., I will not be taking any names down for one of her offsprings till her pups are 2 weeks old. I am breeding her first for myself. I have also bred Asia to Cinder, show pups in this litter are of the price you paid for froggy, you might want to consider that breeding. Before any replacement is done we do need to find a home for froggy and right now I have no space at home to house her. I will try and call you again later today. Cathy Sent from my BlackBerry powered by Virgin Mobile.
She forgot I paid $3300 for Froggie. Here is the front page of the contract.
#REDLEGENDS DOGUE DE BORDEAUX Cathy & Kirk Smith Chris & Tanya Galea 5236 County Rd#25 1131 Zimmerman Crescent RR#3 Warkworth, Ontario Milton, Ontario KOK 3K0 L9T 5T2 705-924-2020 905-693-0472 [email protected] [email protected] www.redlegendsbordeaux.com AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE Cathy & Kirk Smith, Chris & Tanya Galea, RedLegends Dogue De Bordeaux, (hereinafter referred to as "RedLegends") hereby agrees to sell to; Name: Tracy Lee La T(((Redacted)))(Hereinafter referred to as the "purchaser") The puppy/dog described as follows: Breed: Dogue de Bordeaux Sex: F Microchip # :982009105807971 Date Whelped: September 1,2008 Registration Body: CFC Registration Health: Excellent At the purchase price of $ 3,300 Shipping will be at the Purchasers expense.
So as you all can see, she has offered and retracted several times. She told me in March she would "except" (accept) an auscultation and now is going back on her word.
I wanted to post all emails so she can see everything that was sent. And so her "friends" who try to discredit me can see exactly what was said.
CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.Jenny
Alburgh,Vermont,
USA
Half truths and outright fabrications
#4Consumer Comment
Fri, November 12, 2010
I guess I am a disciple or groupie, or whatever you want to call me, but I have purchased a dog outright from Cathy and co-own three others with her and I have never experienced anything like you mention. I have been to her house many times and am amazed at the outright lies in your "testimony". She really lets her dogs eat the farmer's downed calves in the field? I think not. Some of these allegations are absolutely ridiculous. No breeder would accept anything less than hip xrays for proof of HD nor would they accept anything less than a doppler for a heart issue. You would not, I would not, and neither will she. Surely you are not saying that it is a genetic issue that your dog is sensitive to anesthesia? It's true for most large and giant breed dogs and is not genetically linked. Nearly everyone charges more for show potential pups- because they have full registration. Again, not a valid argument. The dog that she was going to replace technically belonged to her once she agreed to replace, so yes, the $1500 from the sale was hers. My concern is for the new owner. How can anyone justify selling such a sickly dog for $1500? A show potential animal is exactly that-"potential". It is up to breeders and new owners to abide by the contracts in place. I know your contract must be similar to mine and all of this is outlined in full. For what it is worth, that IS NOT what the judge said- she simply said that she could not envision either dog becoming a champion- something that is impossible to discern at 8 weeks old when you get a puppy unless there is a DQ fault. She at no time did she say that she never wanted to see them again. Another fabrication. And, I know dozens of show people who have come back from various shows with kennel cough. Funnily enough, even shows that she was not at. The vaccine is only about 70% effective as any vet will tell you. Not all breeders keep the deposit. I gave back two last month when my girl didn't take. I didn't have puppies to sell, so I gave the money back- I don't sit on it for a year or more waiting for my girl to come into heat again. And finally and for the last time, a dogue that has wobblers must get the recessive gene from BOTH parents. If YOUR puppy from that sire has wobblers, then YOUR dam has the recessive gene as well. If you're going to complain about someone your house had better be in order as well and you had better stick to the facts.
