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  • Report:  #393992

Complaint Review: Triangle T Guest Ranch - Dragoon Arizona

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- Eagar, Arizona,
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Triangle T Guest Ranch
4190 Dragoon Road(I-10 Exit 318) Dragoon, 85609 Arizona, U.S.A.
Phone:
520-586-7533
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The owner has not only not lived up to her end of the deal we made in September, she has also demonstrated a disregard towards her employees, her horses and to her customers. In short, she is on a path of destroying her business by her own hand. When we made our deal with her, she was made aware that I Had health issues that prevented me from working long hours and that I had to keep on a schedule regarding meals and sleeping.

When my wife spoke with her in September she was told that, since she had experience as an event planner, that would be the main focus of her tasks. There would be sometimes that she would be asked to work in the saloon/restaurant, but it would not be her main task.

Both of us were told that we would work for 15 hours a week each for a full hook up RV spot, and be compensated for the rest of the time we worked.

My wife was also told she would be entitled to keep any tips that she made in the restaurant, and that I would be able to keep any tips that I made from taking guests on trail rides or tours. These tips would be ours in addition to any hours we were paid to work. We would only work 40 hours a week, to avoid any overtime issues, and that we would each be paid 600 dollars a month, in addition to the RV space.

When we spoke to her in September, the place was staffed with two other couples, a maid, the owner, a maintenance person and 4 other people. When we visited to talk with her in September there appeared to be a decent amount of business.

When we arrived at the Triangle T on October 15, we found that most of the employees had quit, business had dropped off drastically, and that the terms had changed. We were now expected to work all the hours that the restaurant was open, expected to perform upkeep and maintenance on the ranch. We were to perform marketing, and anything else that was required on an as-need basis. I was told I would have to adjust my condition to the requirements of working on the ranch. In addition, we would be paid the same 600 dollars a month apiece, there would be no overtime, and any tips earned would be deducted from that amount.

Since we had made the trip, and were already there, we tried to make it work. As I said before, our needs are minimal, and perhaps if we stuck it out there would be a payoff in the end. In addition, it is such a beautiful location.

The first issue to arise, as one may imagine, is that 3 more employees quit in the first week we were there. Because of the fact that I was expected to cook (because the cook left) the first two weekends we were there, I missed meals and could not maintain my blood sugar. I suffered what should be fatal blood sugar levels twice in the first two weeks of being there.

When I addressed this with her, she started on a daily basis, attacking me for my health issues, for any tasks that I did, I could do nothing right. In retrospect, it appears that this woman has issues with men, and would like nothing better than to employ only women, and have as guests only women.

The most disheartening thing that happened while we were there was that she penned all 9 of her horses together in fenced area with no shade, in the desert. The horses only receive attention when they are taken out for a trail ride. She was advised by her vet, by her staff (each of us have horse skills) and by her visitors that keeping two stallions in the same pen as a mare was not safe for the horses.

She left them together because she thought it was cute to watch the stallions "flirt" with the mare. (Cute?!) One of the stallions kicked the other and after he went down, jumped on his hindquarters and broke his back. She had to put the horse down, and since she had no money, had one of the hands shoot the horse, and the maintenance man hand dig a hole to bury the horse.

I refused to dig the hole, and further to have anything to do with her horses after that. She rationalized that Noche (the deceased horse) "is up in heaven now" and accepts no responsibility for the death of a beautiful 6-year old gentle horse that died due to what can only be described as willful neglect.

My wife was asked to leave me, and to stay at the ranch, show a little more tit in the bar, and be nicer to the customers. I on the other hand, was told I was too accommodating to the guests when I would tour them around the ranch and even talk to them. Towards the end i was asked to stay away from the saloon and grill altogether.

My wife and I did make some tips, and these were withheld from our pay.

We attempted to discuss these issues with the Linda on several occasions, and were blown-off each time. Once the conversation was changed by her to tell us how she had been attacked by a "reptilian shape-shifter" who instantly gave her pneumonia, and that she was only able to cure it by drinking Noni Juice. She is a distributer for some magic fruit juice elixer called 'Noni Juice', which, she ignorantly recommended to me to control my diabetic symptoms.

We gave her a written two week notice of our intent to leave the ranch. After we notified her, she became agitated and more animosity was shown towards me, and my wife was talked to about leaving me once again. She attacked me once again, blaming me for what were basically her shortcomings and we just left.

During our time there, we saw health violations and alcohol violations. I saw bugs strained out of the liquor so it could be served. I saw filthy conditions in the cook shack, rats in the kitchen. Cleanliness is not important here. I observed the cook, at the owner's direction, removing rat droppings from the sugar that the rats had gotten into so it could be used. Contrary to Arizona State law, no exterminator was called.

I saw that while she advertises a 'mesquite grill', she almost always directs her employees to cook on a gas grill. I saw extremely poor planning and guests made fun of behind their backs by the employees and the owner. This woman has zero idea that she is already out of business. The only way she keeps her doors open, is that she cuts corners, and abuses her employees by not keeping agreements, and lies.

fedupwiththebs

Eagar, Arizona

U.S.A.


2 Updates & Rebuttals

Gordon Eberhardt

Sandwich,
Illinois,
United States of America
Triangle T Guest Ranch Rebuttal

#2UPDATE EX-employee responds

Sun, March 28, 2010

As a general rule I don't get involved in employer employee disputes because there is two sides to every issue and the gentleman who posted the report on Triangle T Guest Ranch only stated his perspective.  However as a past employee of Triangle T and having had employees of my own in the past I felt in all fairness to Linda Kelly I should post a rebuttal to the ripoff report posted by fedupwiththebs.

First of all addressing the personal turnover at Triangle T one needs to be aware that the majority of the employees are seasonal.  With all seasonal employment situations a mass personal turnover at the end of the season or job is the expectation of all parties concerned.

When I consider Linda Kelly's personal character I did not observe any of the petty, ignorant, childish or immature traits described by febupwiththebs.  In fact I found Linda to be a very warm, kind hearted, honest and generous person. 

Addressing Linda's customer relationships and managerial abilities let me point out that Linda has managed to purchase a guest ranch costing well into the six if not seven figures.  This is not the accomplishment of a poor manager, poor management results "in absolutely no resources".  Hence I believe that Linda is a better manager than fedupwiththebs and therefore I can't give any credibility to the accusations of mismanagement or poor customer relations.

There was also a complaint by fedupwiththebs that he "could do nothing right" and was attacked "for any tasks".  Personally I find that extremely interesting due to the fact that 80% of my tasks as an employee at Triangle T was to correct the shoddy workmanship of previous employees.  Additionally the owner Linda Kelly never found fault with any of the tasks or jobs I was assigned. 

Reviewing the ripoff report of fedupwiththebs, and in view of my experiences with Linda Kelly, along with my experience as an employer in my opinion fedupwiththebs has a poor attitude, expected something for nothing and is unable to accept responsibility for his own actions.  Thus he blames Linda Kelly or the world at large for his own failures.

Different Perspective      

            


Acmetesting

roseville,
California,
U.S.A.
here is an email I received from this silly woman

#3Author of original report

Thu, December 04, 2008

The following email was received from Linda kelly regarding the fact that she has had some dissatisfied customers recently that have apparently posted bad reviews in various places around the internet. she wants to blame me for them. I replied to her silly a*s, telling her I would love to see her spend the money to sue me. The fact is that she has made her own situation and is suffering from her own actions. I didn't say anything here that isn't true, and didn't post any of the reviews this silly woman(b**CH) thinks i did. The joke will be on her silly a*s, let her spend all the money she has on a lawsuit that a(she can't win because the truth is on my side and b)can't collect from a judgment against me even if by some fluke she did win because I have absolutly no resources to take. Bring it on you silly b***h!!!! the email follows: "subject:potential lawsuit Linda Kelly To:[email protected] Bryan and Lisa, I am fully aware of the internet activity that you have launched and after checking with legal counsel, I have been informed that I have an excellent case against you for libel and defamation of character. I have attached the definition which precisely describes your activity. I am willing to not pursue this lawsuit if you comply with the following within 24 hours: Retract all negative e-mails, blogs or other internet communication that you have posted either from your e-mail addresses or from using anyone else's...I am aware you have several by your own admission. Verbal defamation is slander which I will also pursue if you do not cease and desist this acivity. Send me a record of all retractions. The fact that you were employed and assigned work involving computer communication for the ranch forbids you to act in the manner you have chosen. You are in serious violation of the law and the choice is yours. If you do not retract and cease and desist your activity within 24 hours , I will immediately begin legal action to the ful extent of the law." I hope someone besides me gets a great deal of amusement out of this. The fact is that this woman is continuing to blame me, just like she did when I was there, for her own short-comings.

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