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Once a report is filed, it cannot be edited. The title of this report had a typo which has been corrected in the title of this update.

Also I would like to say in this update that if you use the chat function on the Life Ionizers website, and they don't like the questions you are asking, they will close the chat and ban your ip address.

Life Ionizers also called me on the phone, which I do not even know how they found out my phone number, after they banned my ip address for asking them how many amps their ionizers have.

They left a voicemail and said I am harrassing them and bullying them and told me to stop harrassing them or there would be legal action taken against me.

My question is: "How is asking basic questions about a product harrassment and bullying?"

If you don't know the answer to my question, then you can simply answer that you do not know how many amps your ionizers have instead of calling me names, then closing the chat and then banning my ip address, then calling me and trying to intimidate me with threats of a lawsuit simply because I asked some questions.

I was also asking them about some articles they have posted online and I was pointing out much of the information in their articles was incorrect. For example, Life Ionizers falsely claims on this article here: http://www.lifeionizers.com/blog/kangen-water-scam-secrets/ that "No TV news report has ever praised Kangen Water®. CNN in particular, has only reported on Kangen Water® once, and they called it a scam."

So I asked them, 'where is the CNN "report" where CNN called Kangen Water a scam?'

Life Ionizers of course could not provide me with the source of this report. This is why they increasingly called me names and tried to intimidate me simply because I was asking for the sources to back up their claims since they couldn't provide them, they resort to attacking my character and intimidation rather then simply saying they don't have the answer or that they did in fact lie.

And also, anyone who has an understanding of real journalism understands that journalists are supposed to gather information and present it to the people and let the people decide whether something is true or false. Unfortunately today much of the mainstream media outlets participate in tabloid journalism. Tabloid journalism is where disinformation or misinformation is purposely reported as "fact" when in actuality, it is just propaganda to push a certain agenda.

Also Life Ionizers falsely claims any time Kangen Water has appeared on any TV news report or infotainment piece, that all of these appearances are fake.

Well, I myself appeared on a local news TV morning show and I conducted a demo LIVE on air showing how Kangen Water 11.5 pH water cleans produce. My appearance was not fake. I was there, the water was there, the TV crew was there, the demonstration happened.

And Life Ionizers says in that same article above: "Why Enagic® MLM sales people have to lie about Kangen Water®"

So Life is saying Enagic distributors lie without offering and proof of any lies. This is the tabloid journalism tactic I described above of presenting disinformation or misinformation falsely as "fact". So in actuality I have presented evidence using Life Ionizers' own words in their own article that they are the ones who in fact lie.

And lastly Life Ionizers prey on the lack of knowledge consumers have about ionizers. They demonize the Free Market and entrepreneurship by saying Enagic distributors get paid when an Enagic ionizer is sold. So the fact that people get paid inflates the cost of the product according to Life Ionizers. But this actually is the opposite because if Enagic ionizers were sold in stores they would actually cost more due to the high distribution costs associated with retail products. The medical grade platinum used on the Enagic plates costs about $2,000 an ounce. You can do a search for the cost of platinum online and then do a search for the cost of medical grade platinum. It's not cheap.

And I don't know any company that manufactures and sells their own products for free? So Life Ionizers expects everyone working in the factory that manufacture the products and everyone working hard to market and advertise and to sell the products to all work for free?

Life Ionizers is saying getting paid for the work you do is evil?

Does Life Ionizers work for free and sell their products for free? Does Life Ionizers not get paid?

Also consider the mark-up of many retail products.

Have you thought about the mark-up on products you buy? Here are some standard mark-ups I have found for different products and I have compiled a list. You can do some searching online and you'll find similar figures to what I have compiled here:   * Athletic Shoes Manufacture Cost: $1 Price Sold: $100 Mark-up: 100 times   * Bottled Water Manufacture Cost: 1 cent Price Sold: 99 cents Mark-up: 99 times   * DVD Manufacture Cost: 70 cents Price Sold: $19.99 Mark-up: 29 times   * Furniture Manufacture Cost: $100 Price Sold: $799 Mark-up: 8 times   * Building Construction Manufacture Cost: $200,000 Price Sold: $1 Million Mark-up: 5 times   * Kangen Water Machine SD501 by Enagic Manufacture Cost: $1400 Price Sold: $3980

Mark-up: 2.85 times

Source: http://www.mykangensite.com/research_docs/enagic_vs_competition/Price_Comparison_Information.pdf

You can do some research for yourself and you'll find that the mark-up on retail products are similar to what I posted above as of 2018.

The point I'm making is the fact that Enagic pays "We the People" distributors to do the distribution and marketing rather than paying traditional retail outlets to do the distribution and doing the traditional costs of marketing with commercials and other advertisements actually drives the cost down! The markup according to the research I've done is less than 3 times (see above).

Even if the markup was 4, 5, or 6 times, that would still be consistently lower than the markup of retail products that do traditional retail distribution and marketing.

Think about it: If Kangen Water machines were sold in stores, they would cost about $10,000 or more. Because you would have to pay for the salespeople to sell the machines, pay for the rent on the store or building, pay for insurance, pay for utilities, pay for human resources, pay for advertising, pay for all of these things that would contribute to increasing the cost.

And lastly, Life Ionizers themselves have an affiliate program where they pay a commission to their salespeople who sell Life Ionizers! So why all the demonization of Enagic who pays people who work hard when Life Ionizers also pays people and also have a referral program or commission-based system of payment?

Can you say hypocrite?

And I also encourage you to do some research into the mark-up on Life Ionizers and you'll find that the cost to manufacture the Life Ionizer machine is much lower than the cost to manufacture the Enagic machines because the Life Ionizer machines are not made from as high of quality of engineering or material.

This is why I was asking Life Ionizers on their online chat questions like "How many amps do your machines have?" because I was doing research to see how well made their machines are or are not made. I was going direct to the source to try and get some answers.

And the very fact they couldn't answer my question and then try to intimidate and bully me by calling me names, closing the chat, banning my ip address, somehow getting my phone number, which is not even public, and then calling me and saying I'm harrassing them and threatening legal action shows that their machines are made with inferior workmanship or else they would have treated me professionally and tried to answer my questions.

The way they treated me is more proof in my opinion that they are lying and their products are not as well made as the Enagic ionizers, more than anything else that could be considered proof. So if their machines are not as well made, then that means it most likely costs less to make their machines due to the lower quality, and that also the mark-up on their machines are probably higher in comparison to the Enagic ionizers.

Especially when you consider the fact that Life does lie in that article I posted above, and that the Water Quality Association has awarded only the ionizers from Enagic with the Gold Seal Certification and has not awarded that certification to Life Ionizers.

The Water Quality Association only awards the Gold Seal Certification to products that pass all their tests. The fact that Life Ionizers has not been awarded the Gold Seal Certification is proof their ionizers are of lesser quality than Enagic. So Enagic costs more because of the higher quality, not because they are ripping people off.

And remember there is a difference between cost and price. Enagic ionizers may cost more (because of higher quality), but the price is actually lower than Life Ionizers when you take into account the mark-up on Enagic ionizers is lower than the mark-up on Life. Again, I'm not going to provide all the sources in this report on the mark-up on Life, but I do encourage you to do some research on your own and you will find the same information that I have found that will prove to you that the quality of Life is less, therefore it must cost less to manufacture and yet the price they sell their products at (mark-up) is proportionally higher than the price Enagic sells their products at.

In order to rip someone off there needs to be deceit, there need so be a misrepresentation of the truth and according to the actions and words of Life Ionizers, their OWN words on their website, and in their OWN chat (see chat screenshots posted in previous report above this updated report) and their OWN actions towards me, is all the proof I need to show that Life Ionizers are the ones ripping people off and preying on people who lack the knowledge of what makes a truly high-quality ionizer from what makes an imitation or a counterfeit ionizer.

I also recommened you watch this well put-together and researched presentation by Dr. Michael Donaldson, entitled, "Dr. Michael Explains the Competition" here: https://youtu.be/TugKJW6USAw