two years ago 3 months after my 2nd grandchild was born i recieved a phone call from my daughters friend saying that dhs was there to take my grandkids on a complaint they recieved. i told her to tell them to not take them i will come get them and i ask what the complaint was, she said they wont tell us and they said i couldnt take them that they were going to the shelter. going to that shelter to see my grandkids was so hard, it was terrible and heart breaking. after the kids being in the shelter for a week and a half they were placed with a foster family, we couldnt find out who they were, where they lived, when we could see the kids, and couldnt get anyone to return our calls to find out anything. this went on for two weeks until i filed a complaint online, the very next morning i got a call from someone at the dhs office, thats when we found out that the case worker matt backus was no longer our worker, thats why no one returned our calls. our new case worker was ann knode, and i was given her phone number and i called her, two days later i got a call back from her and i ask her when we could see the kids and who the foster family was. she said that we wasnt allowed to have any information about that. well i made more phone calls to ann knodes supervisor and told her what i was told and she informed me that wasnt true and she would have ann to set up a meeting with the foster parents and your visitations will be set back up. we met foster family and we were comfortable with them, after a few visits with the kids once a week with someone from the dhs office the foster parents started brining the kids for visitation. at first we would meet them somewhere for visitation until i got my apartment, then we met at my place once a week for visitation. my daughter was jumping throught hoops to get her plan done so she could get her kids back home and we finally went to court and thats when we found out what the complaint was and who filed it. my daughters 2nd babys daddy called dhs and told them that she was living under a bridge with my grandkids strungout on drugs, that was a lie. the reason he called and made that complaint about my daughter was because she caught him cheating on her with her bestfriend and that he was doing drugs and she splitup with him and wouldnt take him back that person who destoyed us is in prison now. so out of anger he destroyed our lives, now they know the accusesation he made to dhs was a lie and they still have the kids. as time went on fighting this we noticed that the foster parents were too attached to our kids, the foster mother even said to me that she loved my granddaughter so much that she felt like my granddaughter came out of her and not my daughter. but we tryed to just let it go in one ear and out the other, we just wanted to get this over with and get the kids home. it seem like that nothing was really moving towards getting the kids home and we found out that being that we are cherokee indian and are on the cherokee nation tribal roll that they would help us. so we contacted them and they stepped in to help, they ask why didnt i foster the kids i told them that tulsa dhs said i couldnt. i ask our case worker several times about it and kept getting excuses. i live with my bestfriend and i dont have my own place, so i got my own place. then it was my daughter is staying with me, so she moved out and then ann knode the case worker said after me asking again can i foster the kids told me sure all we need to do is get you certified and fingerprinted, and background check. well nothing got done and we would call her to find out what was going on, or even if we had questions, like is it right for the foster mother to keep saying the things shes saying about our kids and having them call them mom and dad. but of course she would never return our calls, so i told the foster mother how ann knode would never return our calls and the foster mother said that ann knode had told her that she didnt have to and didnt have to help my daughter with anything to get her plan done. so cherokee nation stepped in and they put me through the classes and got me certified through them and had my homestudy. our case worker through cherokee nation dhs was fixing to come to my place for the final step and for me to sign some papers and was going to start the transition of the kids from there to with me and just a few days befor we found out that the foster parents went to court to stop placement with me and the judge granted them placement. about 2 months befor that my daughter was suppose to go to court for a hearing because she wouldnt give up her rights and they said the only alternative she had was jury trail so thats what she took. when it got close to the hearing my daughter had me to ask julie goodroe the foster mother if her hearing was march 10th and julie said no. its the 19th. so i told her that we just wanted to make sure, because we never get anything in the mail about when to be in court but the goodroes always got theirs in the mail. well as our luck would have it court was on the 10th of march and we missed it, so they filed motion to terminate. needless to say the court appointed attorney never helped us either, so we didnt know what was going on half the time. then we had heard that the goodroes was going to do everything they could to get the kids and spend how ever much money it takes, they had two attorneys and when they found out i got fostercare certified they went befor the judge and won placement. we are not wealthy like the goodroes but we can afford to take care of the kids, and give them a good loving home. they took our life away when they took our kids, i have aged ten years and my daughter is mentally depressed as am i. my grandson and i have a awesome bond and the goodroes know this, i call him everyday i have to hear his voice everyday. now im lucky if i get to talk to him twice a week and we havent seen them in a month. we are doing our best not to break, and we are deffently not giving up. i dont know what else we can do with no money for a attorney, and i dont know what all our rights are if we have any left. the goodroes told us that they dont have to let us talk to riley my grandson and they dont have to do visitation because my daughter has lost her rights. we can only pray its still not too late to do something and if not what can we do. please if theres anyone or an attorney that would be willing to sue tulsa ok dhs and allow us to pay for attorney fees if you win our case please let me know. there is no reason for them to do this to us, this is so unjust and dhs is suppose to be all about reunifacation but thats a lie, if it were true the kids would be with me, their maternal grandma. someone please help us befor they steal my bond with my grandson, i can hear it in his voice that things are not the same between us. i can live without my grandkids they are my world. thank you and god bless.
Barnabas
Tulsa,#2Consumer Comment
Thu, February 27, 2020
Hello Matt,
It is nice to see your incredibly mature comments to the people whose children you have taken. Just because you have auto-correct on the computer that the government provided does not entitle you to abuse people who have lost children. I am curious if those children were given to members of the church you are a care pastor at. Where was it again? Bixby?
I could be wrong, I have a terrible memory. Also, I am very interested in how you as a card carrying Cherokee would be able to so easily take away cherokee children from their families. I thought there was some kind of law about that. Maybe you find the families ahead of time who are native and then find children, for a small fee.
With your money problems it is not a wild stretch of the imagination. Then again, I am sure you think of yourself as a sales person and it is only your commision. Question, is this common practice for a director of CPS? Do you have dirty cops who get a cut as well? So many questions, so few answers.
christy
tulsa,#3Author of original report
Wed, September 03, 2014
I know there are kids that need to be taken from their familys to protect them, but what about the ones who are inocent? We have been through so much hurt and pain mentally, until you have walked in our shoes and others like us you will never know how it feels to think that they can take your kids and do what they want and you cant do anything about it. The losser stacey who spoke badly of my daughter and i and she doesnt even know who we are or what kind of people we are has no right to judge us. And stacey i dont care what you think but the Tulsa DHS, CPS is a evil and corupt bussiness. All you have to have is wealth and you can get what ever you want, legal or elegal, including our children. Our legal system is a joke, and you i feel sorry for because you will someday pay for the disrespect you have given to people who are inocent, and the rude comments you have said. I pray that you will feel the pain we have felt and no one will help you just like us, and no one has to have a certain i q to keep their children or grandchildren, all they need is our love, guidence, and to provide for them. As for your nasty remarks about my lazy fat a*s, my drug addict daughter, and where did i graduated that isnt any of your buisness but i went to medical school and aced it. I have 5 certifications and worked 30 years in medical, and my daughter is a awesome young lady who is being mentally abussed by DHS, and is a great mother to her children. The only person who has a right to judge us is GOD and im sure your not him. To all of you out there who are going through the same crap we are, i will keep you in my prayers and just try to stay strong and never give up, and to the ones who have given me some info that could help us i thank you very much. GOD BLESS
Scubasteve
New Hampshire,#4General Comment
Wed, August 27, 2014
Yes good grief it's loser stacey commenting again on everyone's CPS story.. She can't handle the fact thAt CPS is corrupt..while she sits on her fat but think of ways of stealing and lieing and taking children from loving homes
like I said before the only loser here is Stacey if that's your real name..oh by the way CPS are not overworked and underpaid ..so there goes another lie
carl wiehe
Tulsa,#5General Comment
Tue, August 19, 2014
Mam I am in the same situation. It all started with Matt Backus.
He was told by my daughters mother in law that the kids were doing wrong ,drugs. He went and did a home inspection and found the home to be fine. 2 weeks later he told t.p.d. that they had a meth lab. So t.p.d came with flash grenedes the tank and broke out the windows. And found no meth lab just found them sleeping.They took the child I spoke with lady that had my screaming granddaughter in the back seat. Prior my daughter and son in law had given me a document for temporary custody in case of a emergency for the minor child. Then I went to where they took my granddaughter and met Matt Backus to attempt to get my granddaughter. He told me no. My daughter also has jump through hoops to satisfy these people .
Human services ha ha. They stole my daughters baby. Here we are one later and they are still fighting the mother in law became a foster. Same story almost to the tee. Except I own a home I have income never convicted and they gave my baby grandchild to a 5 time divorce single person. Is this justice? No I call it ,child stealing. They want me to jump well I will not this company or department of human services uses gestapo tackticks to get kids for others. Come on governor you stop this man his name is Matt Backus. He works for the gestapo. Def:"gestapo" Hitlers secret police. I have been married to the same women since 1989 I would say thanks to her we are still fighting .They have destroyed us a family and our supply of cash is getting smaller and smaller. We too can take care of our own we don't need the tax payers to foot the bill we can. I am so sick of all this it can make you think bad thoughts. We are all still in control but you can only push so far. So give us our child back . Someone needs to fire him today. (Matt Backus)He is not good for our state OKLAHOMA.Like us cherokee involved, help please help we don't deserve this . Because she said "they have a method lab" . I ask you is that all you have to do these days tell a lie. How many more are out there. This is serious it needs to be stopped. There is more but I am to upset to continue. I apologize.
Carl Wiehe sr.
55 yrs ,Tulsa, county
Shirley
Moore,#6REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, July 24, 2014
We have a cleint and loved one inthe sam eboat in the same county. I may have found some studies and information thatmay help you as well. You can call me 405-290-7002.
Stacey
Texas,#7Consumer Comment
Fri, June 06, 2014
First where did you get your education because you need to sue them for you inability to form a proper sentence!!! Second, your report makes not no iota of sense!!! Your run on sentences makes it hard to even read this report. Third Blame your child for having the children taken away!!
CPS is filled with overworked, underpaid individuals who are threatened, harrassed and stressed to the breaking point everyday! This is the reason that no caseworker can stay on the job and if you don't like it try working for CPS! Is there a reason your worthless daughter could not file this report?? Guess what!! No Attorney is going to take you baseless case because you filed this pathetic report and your wonderful daughter is probably not the picture of parenthood.