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  • Report:  #242938

Complaint Review: Vickie Rice Aka Vicki Rice Aka Cathleen Rice - Houston Texas

Reported By:
- Recife, Other,
Submitted:
Updated:

Vickie Rice Aka Vicki Rice Aka Cathleen Rice
17700 El Camino Real Apartment #628 Houston, 77058-6006 Texas, U.S.A.
Phone:
281-461-8058
Web:
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Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
I had a reading with this psychic on Kasamba.com. At first, her readings were a dollar per minute. Then, the rate raised to $2.50 per minute. I chose her because of the cheap rate. She gave me a reading at first that was general and did not answer one single question. I called back and then she gave me all of these concrete details and dates and so forth. The information had nothing to do with me. Why are all the psychics on Kasamba fake and why won't Kasamba honor its guarantee and give refunds?

Padilla

Recife
Brazil


20 Updates & Rebuttals

Truth Be Told!

Texas,
READ THIS LATEST RESPONSE BY VICKIE RICE FIRST IF YOU READ ANY RESPONSE READ THIS ONE FIRST IN MY OWN WORDS!!!!

#2REBUTTAL Individual responds

Thu, May 16, 2013

 There is no such person as Padilla Recife Brazil, this is ONE person that has posted this crap.

I am going to answer her main complaing she wrote about me here. Although she wrote it on a seperate report.    I don't know  Padilla Recife!

I Vickie Rice,  am going to re-butt this woman here and her original report.

 

Hey guys this is one person that is making numerous rip-off reports about me in the rip-off reports using different log in names.

For you disrespecting me ....kick rocks .....   So if u want to continue with a hate campaign on me and my friends ....just push on ! I'll be doing my next Rip Off report pointing out your name and comments for everyone to see ! Cheers !

It's Sick!  This ONE woman bought a reading from me in 2005 and slandered me and has been slandering me writing these reports. She has been slandering  literally many many people on these boards. ( Many businesses especially !! and many intuitives especially!!) I have so many copies of so many complaints she has written about strangers on the internet she will never even meet.)  lMAO this woman's identity has become known to me she is from Montgomery, Alabama and her initials are B.J.C.   I know this TRASH TALK really sucks but it's a tricky situation.  I am going to wait a while and she if she Trash talks more and then expose her the same way she is trash talking about me lol. Watch what I'm about to dump on her for talking s**t !!

We'll I am going to answer her original complaint because I am getting messed with from her.  She is watching me like a Frigg'n Hawk. I'm Sick of it !!   I know nobody else is dealing with this crap this woman is doing to me ...  Its UNFAIR, screw this woman !!  She gets a thrill out of attacking strangers on the internet.  I have never met her and she will never meet me !!  This woman is using free speech to make strangers suffer and then laughing about it !!

Guys ...  I come under heavy attacks from All fronts because of the line of intutitive work I do.  It comes with the territory I guess.  If you truly support me I am going to need your help in spreading the word about my Channels !   Improv777 on youtube and Improvvid Art on FaceBook.  https://www.facebook.com/improvvidart.art?ref=tn_tnmn  if re-dacted just look up improvvidart art on facebook!  And Improv777 on youtube!

I have to answer these complaints, its just people fighting and throwing up threats to slander more.  I know, it sucks, but answering them is the only way to shed light on this sometimes !  

 

( YOUR ORIGINAL REPORT BELOW )

Vickie Rice is a psychic that operates on ebay and has her own website. In 2005, she did a reading for me and I thought she was accurate so I consulted her again. In May or June she gave me a FAKE reading. When I told her the reading was fake, she started screaming at me and became belligerent. DON'T WASTE your money on this lady--she is nuts! Her ratings got so bad on ebay that she now has a "private" feedback rating.

Bettie

Tuscaloosa, Alabama

U.S.A.

 _____________________________________________________________________________

Ok, I Vickie Rice am going to answer this woman complaint.

( She said )  Vickie Rice is a psychic that operates on ebay and has her own website. In 2005, she did a reading for me and I thought she was accurate so I consulted her again.

( Vickie Answers )  We'll why the hell did you dis-respect me slandering my name with all kinds of crap all over these boards if you felt in your own words the reading was accurate???  What the hell is wrong with you????  

( She said )  In May or June she gave me a FAKE reading. When I told her the reading was fake, she started screaming at me and became belligerent.  ( Vickie Answers ) The reading was not fake as you say at all. I just did not give you false hope.   Everything I said in the reading in 2005 has come to pass including the collapse of the economy.  You approached me in a negative mood. I have your original paypal transaction receipt MS. C !!!  And you were in a bad mood approaching me with a chip on your shoulder because other intuitives displeased you , and you have wrote a ton of reports about them and I have them all along with many other reports on strangers you have written.   When you got nasty with me I simply chose to end the reading. Why did you come at me with such dis-respect in the first place after acknowleging that the first reading I gave you was accurate in your own words.   I'll answer you.  Many people use intuitives for HOPE.  You came to me for hope and since I have the Christian ethic I do give hope because our lord Jesus Christ can make anything possible.  But you came to me for hope and I told you our Lord Jesus Christ was coming back soon to end this non-sense on earth with all the evilness and it would not be long that everything would go down, the economy, everything, the truth.  And I told you to put first the Lord Jesus Christ, always first.  and you decided to make the initial report about me on the Rip Off reports because you did not like hearing my reading.  I had never even heard of the Rip Off reports before until you slandered me on it.  You instigated it.  I did not scream at you either, I did not become belligerent either, I just wanted to end the abuse by you and end the reading as soon as possible because it became apparent to me you had some deeper psychological issues. I know now you have issues as I have screen capped many many slanderous defamation libelous reports you have done on perfect strangers that you will never even meet,  such as myself and many people. You have been using these boards to slander and defame many many people and I have copies of those reports !! And you don't even use your real name you use several different alias to do it !!

( You said Bettie )  In May or June she gave me a FAKE reading. When I told her the reading was fake, she started screaming at me and became belligerent. DON'T WASTE your money on this lady--she is nuts! Her ratings got so bad on ebay that she now has a "private" feedback rating.  ( Vickie Answers )  My feedback was excellent. it was excellent but because there was a  dis-ingenuine psychics on ebay at that time that was jealous and wanting more reads, they  bought readings from me for the only purpose but to leave negative feedback. At the end of that  I had about 4 negative feedbacks all from the same competitive psychic whom bought them solely to leave that negative feedback.   Bettie in my opinion your the one that has psychological problems for using psychics purely for hope when your hope should be stead fastly placed in the Lord Jesus Christ First and Foremost !!

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MUCH LOVE !!!   AND LIGHT TO ALL!!!!!


Truthful777777777

Austin,
United States of America
THIS ENTIRE REPORT IS A LIE!

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sun, September 30, 2012

This whole report was made by Vickie's crazy ex youtube friend who is going to great lengths to try and slander her and Vickie  has done none of these things that are alleged and is not harrassing him either. The other post on here saying that she lives in Houston with her boyfriend named "Jeff Bailey" is not true at all and that isn't what he looks like. so whoever wrote that has the wrong Vickie .but like I said this entire report was made to try and get back at Vickie by somebody who hates her and is clearly sick.


Truthteller4475

Anniston,
Alabama,
United States of America
Cyberstalking is real and Vickie is a victim of it

#4REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, December 13, 2010

This is the definition of Cyberstalking

Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet or other electronic means to stalk or harass an individual, a group of individuals, or an organization. It may include false accusations, monitoring, making threats, identity theft, damage to data or equipment, the solicitation of minors for sex, or gathering information in order to harass. The definition of "harassment" must meet the criterion that a reasonable person, in possession of the same information, would regard it as sufficient to cause another reasonable person distress.

Yes and I see Cyberstalking includes false accusations.

Vickie is a victim of Cyberstalking and Harrassment. That's why SHE reported it to law-enforcement.  Funny thing is law enforcement interviewed her, looked closely at her documentation and they did not arrest her.  She is the victim not the criminal.

 


Out and about

springdale,
Arkansas,
United States of America
Internet Defamation is becoming to rapant, social networks are hotbeds

#5REBUTTAL Owner of company

Thu, November 04, 2010

Internet Defamation is becoming to rampant.  Many have complaints about this very website.  It's truly sad because many youth actually commit suicide over harrassment and internet defamation.  But if your reading this, your online and your on the internet and you can see the racial slurs and insults and defamation yourself. I don't have to explain you anything.  You on a social network?  Enough said.  Internet Defamation is rampant and sadly aqusations are simply not true as here with Vickie.

But let's take a look at what Chris said:  A LOT OF GYPSIES AND CON ARTISTS LIKE TO PREY ON THE UNINFORMED, SUPERSTITIOUS, IGNORANT  LONELY, INEXPERIENCED, NAIVE, WEAK AND VULNERABLE PEOPLE WHO CALL HERE AND REALLY THINK THESE SCAMMERS HAVE REAL SUPERNATURAL POWERS.... Yes, there are those that take advantage of people, and that is sad. But there Karma catches up with them. But Vickie is not one of them and has helped many people and asked for nothing.  Your stereotyping all intutives and psychics as gypsies and con artist and in fact Vickie is not any of these. 

ARE THERE REALLY PEOPLE THAT STUPID IN THE WORLD?  There are people in the world that realize some psychics and intuitives are very real. 

THE ONLY POWER THESE PEOPLE HAVE IS TO SEPARATE YOU FROM YOUR MONEY AND THE MORE MONEY THEY FON OUT OF YOU THE BETTER.  No, in many situations, psychics and intuitives are used by police departments and have been of great assistance. A true intuitive is not a con artist as you put it.  It really sounds like you have a personal vendetta against Vickie, whom is a true psychic intuitive. 

STAY AWAY FROM ALL OF THIS PSYCHIC/PSYCHIC READER/ INDIAN READER NONSENSE.  The psychic realm, and the interest in the psychic realm is exploding in the aquarian age. So your insinuation that intuitives and psychics are non-sense is off base. Now de-classifed, Vickie would be the first to tell you how our country uses top secret psychic remote viewers, in such programs as project stargate, project sunstreak to name a couple de-classified.

YOU WANT TO GET YOUR TAROT CARDS READ?
GO TO YOUR FRIENDLY OCCULT BOOK STORE AND BUY YOUR OWN  AND TEACH YOURSELF.  Many people go and buy there own tarot cards, but psychic ability is a God given gift such as in Vickie.

THESE PEOPLE ONLY CARE ABOUT YOUR MONEY  Not true at all, there are some con-artist out there that do in fact only care about taking from others and their money, But not a genuine intuitive/psychic which in fact Vickie is.  Sure you give readings and some are not pleased, many times they are upset because they do not want to hear the truth that the psychic/intuitive has to say. They take it out on the psychic/intuitive.

But I don't have to tell you anything if your online, internet defamation, harrassment, vendetta's etc are rampant now on the internet. Especially on social networking sites.  So its no biggie, not to realize these types of vendetta's and harrassment, you'd have to be living under a rock.

 


Happyworker

Springfield,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Attempt To Answer Chris's Question

#6Consumer Comment

Thu, October 21, 2010

Chris,

I am a clairsentient (clear feeling or empathic) tarot reader on Liveperson, which was once Kasamba. I know you probably won't be reading this. However, I did want to make an attempt to answer your question.

The reason why any reader often reads for a client that they may have a bad feeling about is because more often than not, we ignore our own intuition and abilities and give the client the benefit of the doubt. I feel stupid every time, I read for a client who later bad rates me for no reason other than wanting to harm my reputation for not telling them what they want to hear. Or even worse, a client rating me badly on behalf of another reader that wants to sabotage another expert's reputation.
 
It is stupidity on our part, but it's not because we don't have the ability that we say we do. It's also not that our ability doesn't exist. It's because those of us who are truly light workers and natural born tend to try to see the good in people. Clients play on this and it takes a while to get it into the mindset that while we need to care for the client and put our emotions into it, it's important to keep in mind that we need to be business oriented as well.

If we don't, then we become prey to clients and other readers who wish to harm. I know that I try to ignore and not focus on the dark experts and clients in this industry. I find that if I focus on the bad, I get a lot of bad clients. However, if I focus on the good, then I may get clients that give bad ratings or even worse post on ripoffreport, but I also get good, genuine clients as well who stand up for me. It's a little principle called the law of attraction. The law of attraction is a universal law that basically states that we receive what we put our focus on.

So that's an attempt to explain why we read for these clients and why things like this happen to readers like Vickie. I'm open to questions, if you have anymore.


Joe

Austin,
Texas,
U.S.A.
I AM SORRY FOR THE VICTIMS OF ALLEGED PSYCHIC HOTLINE SCHEMES

#7Consumer Suggestion

Tue, September 28, 2010

A LOT OF GYPSIES AND CON ARTISTS LIKE TO PREY ON THE UNINFORMED, SUPERSTITIOUS, IGNORANT  LONELY, INEXPERIENCED, NAIVE, WEAK AND VULNERABLE PEOPLE WHO CALL HERE AND REALLY THINK THESE SCAMMERS HAVE REAL SUPERNATURAL POWERS....

ARE THERE REALLY PEOPLE THAT STUPID IN THE WORLD?

THE ONLY POWER THESE PEOPLE HAVE IS TO SEPARATE YOU FROM YOUR MONEY AND THE MORE MONEY THEY FON OUT OF YOU THE BETTER.

STAY AWAY FROM ALL OF THIS PSYCHIC/PSYCHIC READER/ INDIAN READER NONSENSE.

YOU WANT TO GET YOUR TAROT CARDS READ?
GO TO YOUR FRIENDLY OCCULT BOOK STORE AND BUY YOUR OWN  AND TEACH YOURSELF.

THESE PEOPLE ONLY CARE ABOUT YOUR MONEY.


Janet Dugan

Houston,
Texas,
United States of America
This is all lies. NOTHING BUT LIES

#8REBUTTAL Individual responds

Mon, September 20, 2010

All this crap is nothing more than a smear campaign and ALL LIES.   A bunch of s**t LIES. And that is what the truth is.


chaoticneutral

conroe,
Texas,
USA
lie she is margie aka vickie

#9General Comment

Sun, February 07, 2010

So the woman who claims to be vickie Rice the black woman.. no that is itsmsmargie or aka itsgaydiamond from you tube she always says are instead of or. she iks the real vickie rice not the p0ic of the black woman omg look people this woamn has harrassed nad stalked me and many others on you tube releasuing our personal info our kids personal info and made fake ripoff reports she is under investigation with the houston police from another user on u tube bekkah72 or now known as crackerb5 please do not beleive she is or was a victam opf identity theft she is only trying to detour anyone from knowing her true self but margie (vickie ) we know and we have reported u so please back off you and riley need to leave bekkah alone and mike and actucus all of them stop the harassment before you spend your time behind bars,


Martha Cane

Ardmore,
Oklahoma,
United States of America
VICKIE RICE IS A VICTIM OF IDENTITY THEFT

#10Consumer Comment

Wed, January 20, 2010

Identity Theft Can Happen To You!

 

Hello my name is Martha Cane and I am forwarding the letter sent to me about Vickie Rice and Identity Theft. This letter was sent to me by Vickie's Husband.

My wife Vickie Rice and I were living a comfortable life in the Mid-West when our identity was stolen.  We did at one time live at 17700 El Camino Real #628 in Houston. My wife was never a psychic are never had a psychic website. I was the victim of a career criminal who befriended my past employer and learned the details of my life.  This allowed the criminal to assume my identity in order to continue her criminal activities.  He did this by charging over $100,000 in my name and Vickie's name and ruined my credit.  We decided to take a negative situation and make it a positive.  The first positive step we took was to get the criminal arrested, convicted, and imprisoned for crimes unrelated to the Identity Theft he perpetrated on me and Vickie.  We had to get him imprisoned on unrelated charges because there were no laws in Arizona that made stealing someone's identity a crime.

After moving back to Arizona where I was raised, we took another positive step.   Arizona State Law making it a felony to steal someone's identity.  
This law was presented to Arizona State Senator Tom Smith, who helped us get the law passed and signed by the governor in 1996.  The Arizona law was the first of its kind in the nation.

Report Attachments

Ladynight

Amherst,
Nova Scotia,
Canada
I believe in you Vickie :)

#11Consumer Comment

Tue, May 26, 2009

To all of you out there trying to hurt good people. i strongly believe you'll get what you give out. Of all my experiences with psychics. Vickie is still my number one choice :) she's been through my most darkest times and it's a shame that others out there who are disgruntled cannot deal with this another way then to make someone out to be a bad person when they aren't. I do believe truth will come out and vickie will be free from this harrasment. thank you.. love ya vickie !


Ladynight

Amherst,
Nova Scotia,
Canada
I believe in you Vickie :)

#12Consumer Comment

Tue, May 26, 2009

To all of you out there trying to hurt good people. i strongly believe you'll get what you give out. Of all my experiences with psychics. Vickie is still my number one choice :) she's been through my most darkest times and it's a shame that others out there who are disgruntled cannot deal with this another way then to make someone out to be a bad person when they aren't. I do believe truth will come out and vickie will be free from this harrasment. thank you.. love ya vickie !


Ladynight

Amherst,
Nova Scotia,
Canada
I believe in you Vickie :)

#13Consumer Comment

Tue, May 26, 2009

To all of you out there trying to hurt good people. i strongly believe you'll get what you give out. Of all my experiences with psychics. Vickie is still my number one choice :) she's been through my most darkest times and it's a shame that others out there who are disgruntled cannot deal with this another way then to make someone out to be a bad person when they aren't. I do believe truth will come out and vickie will be free from this harrasment. thank you.. love ya vickie !


Ladynight

Amherst,
Nova Scotia,
Canada
I believe in you Vickie :)

#14Consumer Comment

Tue, May 26, 2009

To all of you out there trying to hurt good people. i strongly believe you'll get what you give out. Of all my experiences with psychics. Vickie is still my number one choice :) she's been through my most darkest times and it's a shame that others out there who are disgruntled cannot deal with this another way then to make someone out to be a bad person when they aren't. I do believe truth will come out and vickie will be free from this harrasment. thank you.. love ya vickie !


Mrs

Haltom City,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Response

#15UPDATE Employee

Sat, June 16, 2007

When you said you chose this person due to the cheapness you said it all. I'm so very sorry for your experience. I can assure you that there are so many other caring readers who want to help you and others. Please in the future find a reader due to their comments, ratings, and experience rather than cheapness. You do get what you pay for sometimes. Many readers charge less than 5 dollars a minute and can do so much to help you, so you can get help without going broke. Please know your reader before you hire, and don't give up. I do know kasamba's rules allow for one refund per client and then they don't allow refunds after that. If you've already received one refund from kasamba you won't receive more. I hope that helps you and good luck!


Chris

Grand Junction,
Colorado,
U.S.A.
Psychics please answer

#16Consumer Suggestion

Mon, April 30, 2007

This is not the first time I have asked this question when I read a Kasamba complaint. If you employee such fantastic fortune tellers why can't you predict these problems? I would think you would forsee such disruptive events and prevent them. If you can "read" people you should know if they are going to cause trouble. I doubt if any so called "psychic" will atempt to answer. They never respond to reasonable questions - especially ones that are tough. Readers, please remember that these people can't solve their own problems - don't expect them to help you with yours. All they want is your $$$.


Mike

River Edge,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Vickie - Pasadena Texas works for the psychic

#17Consumer Suggestion

Mon, April 30, 2007

Please take note that the "CONSUMER" that posted a rebuttal here has admitted to being an employee of the supposed "psychic" in this rip off report after I called her on it: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff199127.htm The exact quote was "WE ARE OFFICE STAFF, AND YES WE SHARE AN OFFICE COMPUTER AND WE SPOKE UP FOR VICKIE." However, I believe it is Vickie herself as later in the same thread she says: "YOU PEOPLE HAVE NEVER MET ME LOL!!!! AND I HAVE NEVER DONE A READING FOR EITHER ONE OF YOU, LOL!!!" I went on to ask Vickie to verify that this was indeed NOT a rip off by giving me a complete colod reading on 3/16/2007. I said: "Anyway, I never said you gave me a reading, but I did ask you to prove that you are a real psychic by telling me something about myself that only a psychic could tell me. My name is Mike from river Edge, NJ. I was born on July 24th, 1970. If you can do this, you will have proven yourself to be real and prove that this report is false. If not, than the OP is correct." I am still waiting.


Mike

River Edge,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Vickie - Pasadena Texas works for the psychic

#18Consumer Suggestion

Mon, April 30, 2007

Please take note that the "CONSUMER" that posted a rebuttal here has admitted to being an employee of the supposed "psychic" in this rip off report after I called her on it: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff199127.htm The exact quote was "WE ARE OFFICE STAFF, AND YES WE SHARE AN OFFICE COMPUTER AND WE SPOKE UP FOR VICKIE." However, I believe it is Vickie herself as later in the same thread she says: "YOU PEOPLE HAVE NEVER MET ME LOL!!!! AND I HAVE NEVER DONE A READING FOR EITHER ONE OF YOU, LOL!!!" I went on to ask Vickie to verify that this was indeed NOT a rip off by giving me a complete colod reading on 3/16/2007. I said: "Anyway, I never said you gave me a reading, but I did ask you to prove that you are a real psychic by telling me something about myself that only a psychic could tell me. My name is Mike from river Edge, NJ. I was born on July 24th, 1970. If you can do this, you will have proven yourself to be real and prove that this report is false. If not, than the OP is correct." I am still waiting.


Mike

River Edge,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Vickie - Pasadena Texas works for the psychic

#19Consumer Suggestion

Mon, April 30, 2007

Please take note that the "CONSUMER" that posted a rebuttal here has admitted to being an employee of the supposed "psychic" in this rip off report after I called her on it: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff199127.htm The exact quote was "WE ARE OFFICE STAFF, AND YES WE SHARE AN OFFICE COMPUTER AND WE SPOKE UP FOR VICKIE." However, I believe it is Vickie herself as later in the same thread she says: "YOU PEOPLE HAVE NEVER MET ME LOL!!!! AND I HAVE NEVER DONE A READING FOR EITHER ONE OF YOU, LOL!!!" I went on to ask Vickie to verify that this was indeed NOT a rip off by giving me a complete colod reading on 3/16/2007. I said: "Anyway, I never said you gave me a reading, but I did ask you to prove that you are a real psychic by telling me something about myself that only a psychic could tell me. My name is Mike from river Edge, NJ. I was born on July 24th, 1970. If you can do this, you will have proven yourself to be real and prove that this report is false. If not, than the OP is correct." I am still waiting.


Mike

River Edge,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Vickie - Pasadena Texas works for the psychic

#20Consumer Suggestion

Mon, April 30, 2007

Please take note that the "CONSUMER" that posted a rebuttal here has admitted to being an employee of the supposed "psychic" in this rip off report after I called her on it: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff199127.htm The exact quote was "WE ARE OFFICE STAFF, AND YES WE SHARE AN OFFICE COMPUTER AND WE SPOKE UP FOR VICKIE." However, I believe it is Vickie herself as later in the same thread she says: "YOU PEOPLE HAVE NEVER MET ME LOL!!!! AND I HAVE NEVER DONE A READING FOR EITHER ONE OF YOU, LOL!!!" I went on to ask Vickie to verify that this was indeed NOT a rip off by giving me a complete colod reading on 3/16/2007. I said: "Anyway, I never said you gave me a reading, but I did ask you to prove that you are a real psychic by telling me something about myself that only a psychic could tell me. My name is Mike from river Edge, NJ. I was born on July 24th, 1970. If you can do this, you will have proven yourself to be real and prove that this report is false. If not, than the OP is correct." I am still waiting.


Vickie

Pasadena,
Texas,
U.S.A.
false report

#21Consumer Comment

Sun, April 29, 2007

We could put your name back on ripoff Bettie Carmack and we will if you continue your harrassment; because what you are doing is wrong, you are purchasing items from ebay members and instead of using the proper forum for disputes there on ebay you are posting them on this nation wide search engine. You found out Vickie's name and then purchased a reading on Kasamba with her for the intent purposes of leaving bad feedback. You then registered here on ripoff with your false Padilla Recife name.

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