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  • Report:  #221588

Complaint Review: Wilcox Automotive - Burleson Texas

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- Crowley, Texas,
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Wilcox Automotive
2410 FM 731 Burleson, 76028 Texas, U.S.A.
Phone:
817-426-2300
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November 14, 2006, I had my '95 Pontiac towed to James, owner of Wilcox automotive because it was running hot and I had already changed radiator cap, both hoses,& thermostat. But it didn't correct the problem, not wanting to damage the engine, towing was best. Late that afternoon, I phoned Wilcox cause he had not connected me to let me know what he had determine was the problem.He stated he "Thought" it was a cracked head or blown head gasket. I told him the car was not losing anti-freeze,not running rough or loud. I ask him if there was water in the oil, he said No, I ask if he did a compression check, he said No. I ask him how or why he thought it was the head. He stated, He Just Knew.( which I didn't believe )He said that he could not get around to fixing my car until after Thanksgiving and it would

cost me $1500.00. I was totally shocked. That was extremely over priced and I told him so. Told him I did not have that kind of money and I would have to make some calls.

I phoned him back and told him that my parents would help out with money but I would get back with him. The next morning, after speaking with several auto mechanics from different shops requesting an estimate and hours required to repair such a problem my thoughts were correct. He was trying to rip me off and it was not a cracked head cause nothing made sense. The car was never driven hot, I shut it down before that could happen. So I phoned a friend and he got a car dollie so we could pick up my car from Wilcox and take it else where.

I phoned Wilcox and informed him, we would be picking it up. He said Oh No, I've already started and if you do I may not find all the parts and bolts that go to the car. He stated that he already had 15 hours into the car. At that point in time, I knew he was lying again. On a job like that it only takes 4 to 6 hours (not 15). I ask him why didn't he phone me to inform me of this cause he said it would be after Thanksgiving and I didn't have that much money. He stated that he even hired another worker to fix my car since I needed it badly. Never answering my question.

I told him that was unfair and wrong, complained alot more and ask more questions on how he determined what that problem was with the car. All I got was the run around. He said that it would be ready for me that Friday.

Friday comes, no car, so I went to his shop to find my car sitting in the parking lot. I went in and ask if my car was ready and was told no. I ask why, one of his workers that was sweeping the floor said he was waiting on the head to come back from shop. Wilcox then said that I had 2 bad valves, I ask if he was going to replace them( they were not expensive ) and he said no that he would have them filed down some, like the head.

I went to the parking lot to raise the hood on my car. Which I did and just the head had been removed, no valves removed and no new water pump like he said he replaced. I got very mad and ask he just what kind of fool he thought I was. That I knew he was putting the screws to me and that my car didn't need a new head or gasket kit. Told him I wanted my car that day. He said it might be next week.I ask what machine shop he used and the phone number. He stated, we have you head, I told him that not more than half a minute ago, his worker told me that he was waiting on the head. He stated I miss understood him. I Did Not.

Then I ask why they were working on other vehicles with mine sitting in the parking with the hood down. Where was this new guy he had hired to fix mine. He said nothing, I believe cause I had just caught him in several lies. I walked away and he yelled, Well what do you want me to do now. I told him that for $1500.00 dollars that my car dam well better be put together correctly and today. That I wanted it today. I then drove off.

Today is Tuesday and Wilcox phoned last night at 7:11 pm asking me if I wanted to come pick my car up right then. I told him that I didn't have any money and that I didn't know if my parent would pay such a high bill. Then I said, oh now what is the total, I totally freaked out when he said $1625.00. My lord, I paid $1800.00 for the car not more than 4 months ago. I told him thanks for calling, he again ask me when I could pick it up. I stated I didn't know and tried to hang up but he said not wait I wanted to tell you that it was your water pump and that only one of my motor fans were working and I needed to get the fan fixed or his warranty would not be any good. ** Say what **

So he didn't completely fix the problem, yet changed the head gasket for no reason and wants $1625.00, he is crazy.

P.

Crowley, Texas
U.S.A.


5 Updates & Rebuttals

James

Burleson,
Texas,
After customer's lasts words

#2REBUTTAL Owner of company

Wed, October 30, 2013

I know its been awhile since this was posted but, I was just checking my name again on line. I wanted to add a final word to my testimony on this case. I found out much later when I forgot all about this being posted on line. Not only was her employer her referal but is my customer. Then and now!  What stopped this dispute (was also going thru the BBB), was the fact that this person was THROWN IN JAIL - unrelated to this case to clarify.  I don't appreciate being called a liar. I do my best to remain true.

Anyone please feel free to check my rating on BBB ( not a member fyi ) or Angie's list.


James

Burleson,
Texas,
U.S.A.
reality

#3REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, June 23, 2008

I am not going to take the time and go thru each paragraph written. It is full of lies and twisted facts. I am the owner of Wilcox Automotive. I am not pleased how this deal went at the time the vehicle was in my shop. I will admit that. But I have been completly honest and acurate with what I said and the work I said it needed and performed. Mr 'P' is dramatically taking words out of context ! Grossly out of context. He kept calling before I told him I would have it looked at. I told him I couldn't get to it for a week and he started calling the next day saying he had to have it back as soon as possible. It was low on coolant when the vehicle came in. It would overheat idling in my parking lot within 10 minutes ! I tested for a blown headgasket before I took the vehicle apart and told Mr P that before proceeding with repairs. He gave me permission. It was several days later he changed his mind and wanted to come get the car. I politely advised him the vehicle was apart and he should check with other shops how much they would charge to put it back together before he goes and takes it elsewhere. Mechanics don't like that. I am VERY reasomnably priced. But, Mr P consistantly took my words out of context and or twist the meaning to make me out as a bad guy. I did my best to explain the whole situation. For example, as stated above, he accused me of not taking the valves out but knows the heads where off. The valves are IN the head ! I sent the head to a machine shop. That was explained to him too. My advise, know what ur talking about! And guess what, after the heads were replaced it wasn't overheating ! well except for the fans not coming on. The car was not driveable when it was towed to my shop. It would overheat too quickly. Mr P told me so. And check any labor guide book, the labor for R & R heads is WAY more than 4-6 hours. That is the complete upper half of an engine. Anyway, that was more than I wanted to say. Wilcox Automotive, James


Robert

Jacksonville,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Just curious...

#4Consumer Comment

Sun, January 28, 2007

You say it's a '95 Pontiac. A Pontiac what?


William

Vicksburg,
Mississippi,
U.S.A.
Couple Of Friendly Corrections

#5Consumer Suggestion

Sun, January 28, 2007

I do not want to start anything or take either side of this battle. I simply wanted to point out two things about this post for future reference. At one point it was stated that the customer opened the hood to find the shop had taken the head off but not the valves. The valves are in the head. Another time in this report, the customer stated that the car had poor acceleration due to crossed wires and two (I think if I read it right) wires off. If this was the case, the car would not have run at all. I'd like to add that I think this shop acted very unprofessional, but several actions by consumers can help stop some of these problems in its tracks. 1. Always say NO to suggested repair work until you are sure you agree to the work and price. Never say I think or I'll think on it. JUST SAY NO! 2. Always DEMAND to get your old parts back. If the shop refuses, FIND ANOTHER SHOP! However, be aware that on many parts you will have to either pay extra to get them back or make agreements to see them (to assure yourself they were replaced) and them leave them with the shop. This is due to core charges the shop has to pay when buying new (and in some cases used) parts. 3. Always when possible ask around and find out what you can about your problems BEFORE going to a shop. Now be aware that asking around doesn't make you a mechanic, but it does give you a heads up. 4. ALWAYS, try to chat with the mechanic in a friendly manner. If you find a mechanic that is just too unsociable for a quick chat, FIND ANOTHER MECHANIC! IMMEDIATELY!!!!!


P.

Crowley,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Want Justice - Wilcox Automotive is a RIP-OFF

#6Author of original report

Wed, January 24, 2007

This letter is in response to Wilcox Automotive and the false, untrue, and unprofessional information and statements given By James Wilcox concerning my vehicle (95 Pontiac Grand Prix) and my character. First off, Wilcox COULD NOT produce a machine shop work order or even a work order showing what test were performed And what work was done on vehicle. I have witnesses to prove that the vehicle WAS NOT in poor shape, was not running bad, there was NO loose of anti-freeze, and the water pump WAS NOT leaking. The engine had not gotten hot, that is one of the reasons why I had it towed, to keep it from over heating. Late that same afternoon ( when vehicle was towed in ) I phoned Wilcox to get a diagnosis, all he could Say was I THINK it is a cracked head or bad gasket. I ask ( like I stated in my earlier letter ) if there was No water in the oil, no loose of anti-freeze, the vehicle was not running poorly, then how could he determine That. If he truly ran tests, why didn't he speak of them then or have proof of them. He did give me an Estimate of $1500.00 dollars, I stated I didn't have that kind of money and I would get back with him. I NEVER GAVE AN OK TO GO AHEAD. Mr. Wilcox has a large amount of vehicles outside his shop, I believe he does over-priced work and then puts a mechanic lien on them to get the title. Then turns and Sells them for profit. ( he threatened me with a lien at one point ) The very next morning, I phoned Wilcox to tell him I was picking up my car and then he told me that he had Already started on it and had 15 hours in it. He stated that if I pick it up, he might not find all the parts and Bolts. * very unprofessional * Wilcox states she agreed she authorized me to perform the repairs , THIS IS AN OUT AND OUT LIE, FALSE STATEMENT, UNTRUE. Wilcox also states that I use mechanical words, that is about the only thing he has stated that if true, I do Know a lot about vehicles. BUT I do know what I am talking about. I have witnesses to prove this. Wilcox states I have a chemical imbalance, I ask, does he have a doctors degree. Does he even have a Mechanics degree or license ? Wilcox also states I twisted his words and that he advised me to see if my Mechanic would be willing to put it back together. THIS ALSO IS A LIE, UNTRUE STATEMENT. Wilcox kept trying to involve my employer by making phone calls to him ( my employer has had some Work done by Wilcox ) my employer final told him to just fix the car and fix the fan motor and that if It was going to cost anymore to bill him. In Wilcoxs statement he says and I quote the vehicle was in such bad condition before the repairs, I couldn't Run the engine long enough to verify system operation. I ask again why did he say it was a head gasket ? He also says and I quote, the fan would only have an effect in the summer time with a/c on to possibly Cause engine overheating in stop and go traffic. So in other words, he did not fix the motor fan and my Vehicle will over heat when summer comes. I believe it was the motor fan the whole time and he did not Discover it until now. I did find where Wilcox had crossed my plug wires and two plug wires were just hanging in the back part, Not connected to a plug. That was the reason for the poor acceleration and power. I have a witness to all of this, And have a witness of how poorly the car ran after leaving Wilcox's shop. Wilcox NEVER changed the water pump, I had checked out the pump and it was fine, yet he charges me for The cost of one and labor cost. He also did not return an old pump and I know for a fact that the same water Pump is on my car.. I am totally unhappy with the lies Wilcox has given and want

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