Was hounding by Charles over and over to purcahse from them. They promised a certain sales ratio from the lead purcahse so I agreed to buy. I spent 8,000 with them and closed 3 deals, which is no where near the perfomance they promised or the usual performance I get with other lead providers. I politely asked for a refund only to be told be the owner NO. I talked to many other companies that bought from them and they all said the same thing... the leads are garbage. Stay away, total SCAM!