Carl
Auburn,#2Consumer Comment
Mon, February 20, 2006
I can see why you're upset, I myself was new to the 12 DP about 3 weeks and I bought $3300.00 worth of upgrade units over 30 days time when Stormpay decided to play "internet police" (technically you didn't "invest" a dime with 12 DP, you purchased upgrade units).. You're blaming only 12DP and saying " I didn't "invest with Stormpay, I invested with 12dp"... well let me fill you in on something ... Stormpay is NOT a bank, they are a private company and they cannot freeze account funds, and what they did was extremely illegal and if you used your bank account or credit card to fund your Stormpay account you WILL get your money back...I did! But if you were stupid enough to fund it with cash then you are out of luck. Now don't get me wrong, I learned my lesson and won't be buying anymore upgrade units with any more auto surf companies but if 12DP is so guilty why is there a MAJOR class action lawsuit being brought against STORMPAY??? Why is the FBI investigating Stormpay?(yes they investigated 12DP too but they have too because of people like you) You need to do your homework before complaining about something. You want to know what really happened. here is the real story...*long story short version*...12 DP had a business model that was APPROVED by Stormpay, they worked well together up until Charis (the 12 admin) decided to withdraw a substantial amount from her Stormpay funds to finance something(I'm not sure what exactly but its irrelevant) anyway Stormpay did NOT have the funds to cover it so he panicked, decided to freeze accounts and started scheming up a way so he wouldn't have to pay out, his plan was simple...most of the money from 12dp is "roll over money. in other words there's no way to charge back those funds, and he figured there's 300,000 members in 12 DP alone and probably just as many in the other auto surf websites combined, now when he froze it they had no way of charging back, and it's all his now think about it. ps..more people have trouble with stormpay than 12DP.. just look at Stormpays record on this site alone
Carl
Auburn,#3Consumer Comment
Mon, February 20, 2006
I can see why you're upset, I myself was new to the 12 DP about 3 weeks and I bought $3300.00 worth of upgrade units over 30 days time when Stormpay decided to play "internet police" (technically you didn't "invest" a dime with 12 DP, you purchased upgrade units).. You're blaming only 12DP and saying " I didn't "invest with Stormpay, I invested with 12dp"... well let me fill you in on something ... Stormpay is NOT a bank, they are a private company and they cannot freeze account funds, and what they did was extremely illegal and if you used your bank account or credit card to fund your Stormpay account you WILL get your money back...I did! But if you were stupid enough to fund it with cash then you are out of luck. Now don't get me wrong, I learned my lesson and won't be buying anymore upgrade units with any more auto surf companies but if 12DP is so guilty why is there a MAJOR class action lawsuit being brought against STORMPAY??? Why is the FBI investigating Stormpay?(yes they investigated 12DP too but they have too because of people like you) You need to do your homework before complaining about something. You want to know what really happened. here is the real story...*long story short version*...12 DP had a business model that was APPROVED by Stormpay, they worked well together up until Charis (the 12 admin) decided to withdraw a substantial amount from her Stormpay funds to finance something(I'm not sure what exactly but its irrelevant) anyway Stormpay did NOT have the funds to cover it so he panicked, decided to freeze accounts and started scheming up a way so he wouldn't have to pay out, his plan was simple...most of the money from 12dp is "roll over money. in other words there's no way to charge back those funds, and he figured there's 300,000 members in 12 DP alone and probably just as many in the other auto surf websites combined, now when he froze it they had no way of charging back, and it's all his now think about it. ps..more people have trouble with stormpay than 12DP.. just look at Stormpays record on this site alone
Carl
Auburn,#4Consumer Comment
Mon, February 20, 2006
I can see why you're upset, I myself was new to the 12 DP about 3 weeks and I bought $3300.00 worth of upgrade units over 30 days time when Stormpay decided to play "internet police" (technically you didn't "invest" a dime with 12 DP, you purchased upgrade units).. You're blaming only 12DP and saying " I didn't "invest with Stormpay, I invested with 12dp"... well let me fill you in on something ... Stormpay is NOT a bank, they are a private company and they cannot freeze account funds, and what they did was extremely illegal and if you used your bank account or credit card to fund your Stormpay account you WILL get your money back...I did! But if you were stupid enough to fund it with cash then you are out of luck. Now don't get me wrong, I learned my lesson and won't be buying anymore upgrade units with any more auto surf companies but if 12DP is so guilty why is there a MAJOR class action lawsuit being brought against STORMPAY??? Why is the FBI investigating Stormpay?(yes they investigated 12DP too but they have too because of people like you) You need to do your homework before complaining about something. You want to know what really happened. here is the real story...*long story short version*...12 DP had a business model that was APPROVED by Stormpay, they worked well together up until Charis (the 12 admin) decided to withdraw a substantial amount from her Stormpay funds to finance something(I'm not sure what exactly but its irrelevant) anyway Stormpay did NOT have the funds to cover it so he panicked, decided to freeze accounts and started scheming up a way so he wouldn't have to pay out, his plan was simple...most of the money from 12dp is "roll over money. in other words there's no way to charge back those funds, and he figured there's 300,000 members in 12 DP alone and probably just as many in the other auto surf websites combined, now when he froze it they had no way of charging back, and it's all his now think about it. ps..more people have trouble with stormpay than 12DP.. just look at Stormpays record on this site alone