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Cincinnati,#2Consumer Comment
Sat, August 16, 2014
Here it is several years later and I still have strong emotions about 12 Daily Pro. This was in the young years of autosurfing and there was a lot of ingnorance about the industry. Of course there were those who chose to actually scam their victims. Then there were those,like the owner of 12 Daily Pro who wanted to run an honest business but did not have the knowledge to realize it was set up to where it could not last. I was a member of 12Daily Pro for about 8 months and I received my payments on time without fail until it all came crashing down. During that time I signed up with several autosurfs and 12 Daily Pro was the ONLY one that paid me faithfully. I amnot anyone special. I also had a few people I invited and they were paid too,til it crashed. She really was trying to do the right thing which was why she had so many subscribers in the first place. She became so big because she was paying. Of course there were those who joined near the end and lost their money,but it was not because it was intended to be a scam. She did the best that she knew how to do and sh ended up taking the heat for the entire industry.
Kevin
Kingston,#3Consumer Comment
Tue, June 27, 2006
It's sad that Carl is the only one it seems to be standing up for the truth here. The so called Ponsi definition refers to something that happened back in the 1930's before people even had televisions and most people didn't even have telephones. It should not and does not have any relationship to today's electronic communications. But it is a great excuse and underhanded legal way for dishonest, crooked lawyers, and businessmen to legally steal people's money. Just call it or make it "fit" the definition of a Ponsi scheme, and we can legally steal millions of dollars from anyone we want. Just like Stormpay stole 50 million from all of us in the 12dailypro scandal. Stormpay is owned and operated by a group of lawyers. (Check it out for yourselves). Hardly anyone among the 300,000 people who invested in 12dailypro ever complained. It was Stormpay who just decided to freeze everyones funds ("steal" would be a better word for it) Stormpay were the ones who went to the SEC. Of course once the government receives a complaint from a so called "legitimate" financial institution then Stormpay can legally steal everyones money. Stormpay knew what they were doing from the beginning. What would you expect from a bunch of lawyers? Just watch.....nothing will happen to Stormpay........as they legally get away with millions of dollars and theres nothing any of us can do about it. The only thing 12dailypro did was be very successful, and the only thing Stormpay did was successfully steal everyone's money under the guise of some old outdated law that should be ripped up and flushed. If 12dailypro is a Ponsi scheme then let's ask the SEC what Social Security is???? The government Social Security Ponsi scheme has been around years before the Ponsi scheme definition ever came into being. Thousands of dollars is taken out of my paycheck every year for Social Security, and I know I will never see a dime of it when I retire!!?? So there's a preceding legal precedant right there to this so called Ponsi scheme law for all you. Why doesn't someone have the guts to throw out this worthless Ponsi scheme law?? Because then the crooked lawyers wouldn't have a legal way to steal your money! Wake up people!!
Carl
Auburn,#4Consumer Comment
Mon, February 27, 2006
"the SEC CLAIMS in Federal Court"...you need to learn what certain words mean before posting something you believe to ber fact. When they actually indict 12DP then you can post that 12DP is guilty, until then stormpay alone is the evil empire and absolutly nothing will change my mind!...NOTHING!!!
Renegade
Na/,#5Consumer Comment
Sun, February 26, 2006
Courthouse News: http://www.courthousenews.com/Jump.Feb.24.htm#Charis Internet Ponzi Scheme Raked In $50 Million, SEC Says LOS ANGELES (CN) Charis Johnson, 33, of North Carolina, has raised more than $50 million from more than 300,000 investors an Internet Ponzi scheme, and has skimmed $1.9 million from it since the summer of 2005, the SEC claims in Federal Court. The agency claims that Johnson, of Charlotte, got the money through her Web-based businesses, LifeClicks and 12daily Pro. She sells 12daily Pro membership units as a paid Autosurf program whose members allegedly are paid for viewing the websites owned or promoted by other online professionals. Suckers can become upgraded members for $6 per unit, and the scam is so effective that 12daily Pro was recently ranked the 352nd most heavily trafficked website on the Internet, the agency claims. The SEC says Johnson runs 12daily Pro as almost a pure Ponzi scheme at least 95% of the funds 12daily Pro uses to pay returns to upgraded members come from new investments in the form of new or existing members' upgrade fees. She promises to pay each upgraded member 12 percent of his or her membership fee per day for 12 days, promising a 44 percent profit after 12 days. Since mid-2005, the Defendants have raised more than $50 million from more than 300,000 investors nationwide and overseas, the agency says. One of the Defendant's payment processors, StormPay, Inc., currently holds approximately $50 million in investor funds, which it has voluntarily agreed to freeze. The Defendants are seeking to undo the freeze. The SEC says Johnson has made material misrepresentations and omissions in offering and selling the 12daily Pro investment program, and says the bank holding Johnson's account (with the $1.9 million she allegedly skimmed) is unwilling to freeze the funds in the account without a court order. The SEC wants defendants' accounts frozen, documents preserved, accounting, disgorgement with interest, a receiver appointed, and penalties. At least 6,400 of the investors live in California.
Renegade
Na/,#6Consumer Comment
Sun, February 26, 2006
Courthouse News: http://www.courthousenews.com/Jump.Feb.24.htm#Charis Internet Ponzi Scheme Raked In $50 Million, SEC Says LOS ANGELES (CN) Charis Johnson, 33, of North Carolina, has raised more than $50 million from more than 300,000 investors an Internet Ponzi scheme, and has skimmed $1.9 million from it since the summer of 2005, the SEC claims in Federal Court. The agency claims that Johnson, of Charlotte, got the money through her Web-based businesses, LifeClicks and 12daily Pro. She sells 12daily Pro membership units as a paid Autosurf program whose members allegedly are paid for viewing the websites owned or promoted by other online professionals. Suckers can become upgraded members for $6 per unit, and the scam is so effective that 12daily Pro was recently ranked the 352nd most heavily trafficked website on the Internet, the agency claims. The SEC says Johnson runs 12daily Pro as almost a pure Ponzi scheme at least 95% of the funds 12daily Pro uses to pay returns to upgraded members come from new investments in the form of new or existing members' upgrade fees. She promises to pay each upgraded member 12 percent of his or her membership fee per day for 12 days, promising a 44 percent profit after 12 days. Since mid-2005, the Defendants have raised more than $50 million from more than 300,000 investors nationwide and overseas, the agency says. One of the Defendant's payment processors, StormPay, Inc., currently holds approximately $50 million in investor funds, which it has voluntarily agreed to freeze. The Defendants are seeking to undo the freeze. The SEC says Johnson has made material misrepresentations and omissions in offering and selling the 12daily Pro investment program, and says the bank holding Johnson's account (with the $1.9 million she allegedly skimmed) is unwilling to freeze the funds in the account without a court order. The SEC wants defendants' accounts frozen, documents preserved, accounting, disgorgement with interest, a receiver appointed, and penalties. At least 6,400 of the investors live in California.
Renegade
Na/,#7Consumer Comment
Sun, February 26, 2006
Courthouse News: http://www.courthousenews.com/Jump.Feb.24.htm#Charis Internet Ponzi Scheme Raked In $50 Million, SEC Says LOS ANGELES (CN) Charis Johnson, 33, of North Carolina, has raised more than $50 million from more than 300,000 investors an Internet Ponzi scheme, and has skimmed $1.9 million from it since the summer of 2005, the SEC claims in Federal Court. The agency claims that Johnson, of Charlotte, got the money through her Web-based businesses, LifeClicks and 12daily Pro. She sells 12daily Pro membership units as a paid Autosurf program whose members allegedly are paid for viewing the websites owned or promoted by other online professionals. Suckers can become upgraded members for $6 per unit, and the scam is so effective that 12daily Pro was recently ranked the 352nd most heavily trafficked website on the Internet, the agency claims. The SEC says Johnson runs 12daily Pro as almost a pure Ponzi scheme at least 95% of the funds 12daily Pro uses to pay returns to upgraded members come from new investments in the form of new or existing members' upgrade fees. She promises to pay each upgraded member 12 percent of his or her membership fee per day for 12 days, promising a 44 percent profit after 12 days. Since mid-2005, the Defendants have raised more than $50 million from more than 300,000 investors nationwide and overseas, the agency says. One of the Defendant's payment processors, StormPay, Inc., currently holds approximately $50 million in investor funds, which it has voluntarily agreed to freeze. The Defendants are seeking to undo the freeze. The SEC says Johnson has made material misrepresentations and omissions in offering and selling the 12daily Pro investment program, and says the bank holding Johnson's account (with the $1.9 million she allegedly skimmed) is unwilling to freeze the funds in the account without a court order. The SEC wants defendants' accounts frozen, documents preserved, accounting, disgorgement with interest, a receiver appointed, and penalties. At least 6,400 of the investors live in California.
Renegade
Na/,#8Consumer Comment
Sun, February 26, 2006
Courthouse News: http://www.courthousenews.com/Jump.Feb.24.htm#Charis Internet Ponzi Scheme Raked In $50 Million, SEC Says LOS ANGELES (CN) Charis Johnson, 33, of North Carolina, has raised more than $50 million from more than 300,000 investors an Internet Ponzi scheme, and has skimmed $1.9 million from it since the summer of 2005, the SEC claims in Federal Court. The agency claims that Johnson, of Charlotte, got the money through her Web-based businesses, LifeClicks and 12daily Pro. She sells 12daily Pro membership units as a paid Autosurf program whose members allegedly are paid for viewing the websites owned or promoted by other online professionals. Suckers can become upgraded members for $6 per unit, and the scam is so effective that 12daily Pro was recently ranked the 352nd most heavily trafficked website on the Internet, the agency claims. The SEC says Johnson runs 12daily Pro as almost a pure Ponzi scheme at least 95% of the funds 12daily Pro uses to pay returns to upgraded members come from new investments in the form of new or existing members' upgrade fees. She promises to pay each upgraded member 12 percent of his or her membership fee per day for 12 days, promising a 44 percent profit after 12 days. Since mid-2005, the Defendants have raised more than $50 million from more than 300,000 investors nationwide and overseas, the agency says. One of the Defendant's payment processors, StormPay, Inc., currently holds approximately $50 million in investor funds, which it has voluntarily agreed to freeze. The Defendants are seeking to undo the freeze. The SEC says Johnson has made material misrepresentations and omissions in offering and selling the 12daily Pro investment program, and says the bank holding Johnson's account (with the $1.9 million she allegedly skimmed) is unwilling to freeze the funds in the account without a court order. The SEC wants defendants' accounts frozen, documents preserved, accounting, disgorgement with interest, a receiver appointed, and penalties. At least 6,400 of the investors live in California.
Carl
Auburn,#9Consumer Comment
Tue, February 07, 2006
Its not 12 pros fault WHAT EVER ..Storm pay can't just not pay who ever they choose... To the fools still backing 12 daily pro. Hey smart guy why is such a straight up company so easy to bring down.... 12 daily pro isn't down... Storm pay can't just not pay who ever they choose. Youre almost right, that's a double negative but you're right stormpay definitely can not pick and choose who they will pay it's illegal... So they must have some pretty solid evidence that 12daily pro is as shady as your are...they have nothing but 12 dp's money, in fact I have solid evidence stormpay are the crooks... So you keep backing the crooks. 12 daily pro is done,..they are not done why because what they were trying to do is illegal...no you're wrong again... So be amazed all you want...i am at your stupidity... Your probably one of the theives that started the company...nope..wrong.. Either that or your so stupid (NOW THIS IS FUNNY..YOU CALLING ME STUPID HAHAHA WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN SPELL or put a decent sentence together) you believe every word they tell you while there laughing at your dumb behind all the way to the bank...i'm only laughing at you.
Carl
Auburn,#10Consumer Comment
Tue, February 07, 2006
You really amaze me!, you and mark the meatball both are blaming the wrong people, youre obviously too stupid to look up stormpays business history with the BBB or ripoffreport, if you had you'd seen that they have an unsatisfactory record going back to 2002, now try and find negative reports on 12 daily pro...the only thing you'll find are you 'tards whining you lost money from 12 daily pro when in fact you lost it from the owner of stormpay making up insane rules as he goes along...let me fill you in on something...stormpay is a PAYMENT PROCESSOR not a bank they have no right to freeze anyones accounts,...and if you knew anything at all youd know what stormpay is doing is ILLEGAL...if in fact the us government or law enforcement agencies were investigating 12DAILY PRO stormpay broke the law by disclosing that information to the public via email! If 12 daily pro is dead why is the website still up and running?? you'll be eating crow when stormpay goes down. ps...if you were soooo skeptical why did you invest 500.00??? seems to me youre the real idiot.
Marcus
Orlando,#11Author of original report
Tue, February 07, 2006
To the fools still backing 12 daily pro. Hey smart guy why is such a straight up company so easy to bring down. Storm pay can't just not pay who ever they choose. So they must have some pretty solid evidence that 12daily pro is as shady as your are. So you keep backing the crooks. 12 daily pro is done, why because what they were trying to do is illegal. So be amazed all you want. Your probably one of the theives that started the company. Either that or your so stupid you believe every word they tell you while there laughing at your dumb behind all the way to the bank.
Marcus
Orlando,#12Consumer Comment
Tue, February 07, 2006
To the fools still backing 12 daily pro. Hey smart guy why is such a straight up company so easy to bring down. Storm pay can't just not pay who ever they choose. So they must have some pretty solid evidence that 12daily pro is as shady as your are. So you keep backing the crooks. 12 daily pro is done, why because what they were trying to do is illegal. So be amazed all you want. Your probably one of the theives that started the company. Either that or your so stupid you believe every word they tell you while there laughing at your dumb behind all the way to the bank.
Mark
Fort Cobb,#13Consumer Comment
Sun, February 05, 2006
You sure do love ponzi schemes they are't legal what else do you love car jacking. If 12 DP is not a ponzi we will all get payed because a true busines doesn,t cut deals with the devil. net iba 12 dp got there cut. So we know they will steal.
Carl
Auburn,#14Consumer Comment
Sun, February 05, 2006
yo marcus, Stormpay is the reason your not getting paid, not 12dp...you obviously aren't keeping up with all thats going on, and you need to get your facts strait before you go fartin off at the mouth. I suggest if you want your 500.00 back you go after the payment processor (stormpay) like everyone else not 12dp...ya know,it truly amazes me how stupid the human race can be but what amazes me more is people like you.