Kristina
Hutchinson,#2Author of original report
Wed, December 27, 2006
A lot of things I already stated were already mentioned in the first and second posting on Rip-off.com. When my husband was layed off even the temp agency Tad Technical, "claimed" they didn't know what was happening. When Mike was layed off he was told by his supervisor who was walking him out the doors at Learjet that all the contractors in that department were being let go. Again, and I state it again, "Learjet claimed work slowed down." As for my husband not being able to complain against Adecco/Tad Technical, we were advised by our family attorney to abide by their wishes for the time being. And if anyone who was going to start a complaint against Adecco/Tad Technical to the Kansas Labor Boards it would have been myself in Mike's behalf. And it would have been through our family attorney who has advised us through this whole nasty ordeal. That is who the "we" are discribed in the second posting. I did not state who exactly the "we" are in the second posting, that was left up in the air as a spare card (our family attorney) should things get nastier than what they already are. My husband has always used me to convey his thoughts to paper being that he is not a writer. And most of what is already written in the postings were dictated by him. We are not in the habit of chewing our cabbage twice as we have had to concerning our complaint about Adecco/Tad Technical. However the job did not exist at Learjet this was proven by their own listings. That is why we have reason to believe and it is our opinion based on the facts we have seen that the job never existed. And that is why we believe and it is again of our opinion that the job was "created" it never pre-existed. It was created for something to gain for someone else, namely not ourselves. It is not our concern how Adecco/Tad Technical gets paid. That was not our point for listing that fact. It was listed because they (Adecco/Tad Technical) had something to gain profitable off of Mike being a temp for them, regardless of what it cost him. Mike did wear a Learjet identification tag, and it was from and provided by Learjet, not Tad Technical. Being an employer at one time and I will state it "again", "there are things you can and can not do as an employer in a "right to work and at will state." This would even apply to temp/contract employers. I think this last update just about covers everything from the rebuttals to the loose ends that were not clearly stated.
Kristina
Hutchinson,#3Author of original report
Wed, December 27, 2006
I agree with the comments recieved concerning job shops. However there is a few things I more than likely did not clarify clear enough. The job was not listed on the internet by Learjet. The "fact" that certain departments through out Learjet were still in lay off and strike mode were listed on the internet by Learjet. Learjet confirmed that they were not hiring. All this was confirmed "after the fact." Also initially my husband did not take the job when it was first offered to him by Tad Technical becasue they claimed Learjet was on strike. My huband told Tad Technical to call him when Learjet wasn't on strike. They called him a few weeks later and told him the job was stable. It was both our "BIG" mistakes to take Tad Technical at face value, being that we did not confirm what they stated until after Mike got layed off. As Thomas said in South Carolina "never trust a job shop". Further more everybody has heard the old phrase "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it." I warned Mike about the high risk of trusting Adecco/Tad Technical again. With some people you can't make them listen no matter what, until they fall on their faces. I guess my husband was in hopes that Tad Technical would have by complete miracle changed their ways after a few years. WRONG! I know this last confrontation with Adecco/Tad Technical has made him finally see the light of day. And as I stated Tad Technical promised him the moon in getting him to accept the job at Learjet. I myself am from (born and bread) Wichita, KS and one of the reasons Mike took the job other than what the temp agency told him is the fact that he wanted to give me a nice Birthday gift and that was taking me home. His intentions were good, but it was never meant to be. Also as I stated there is a happy ending to this horrible lesson learned and that is the fact that Mike got hired on at a job (that is not a temp or a contractor) in Oklahoma. My reason as well as my husband's of putting this on the internet is not to expect a soft shoulder to cry on but for other's who are possibly as naive as we were to take heed to the warning and lesson we learned the hard way. It's too late to cry over our spilled milk of what we should have or could have done concerning Adecco/Tad Technical because somethings can't be erased. The only thing we can do is press on and pass the lesson on to others, if they are willing to listen.
Steve
Cary,#4Consumer Comment
Wed, December 27, 2006
Why leave the stable contracting job??? Why would a contract company call someone up and tell them a company is "hiring"? They are NOT hiring, they are bringing in contractors. Does Leer still have any contractors or are they all gone now? If this wasnt the first time they burned you, WHY did you go back to them?? Now on to your second post: Of course Leer HR doesnt know anything about hire/layoff dates for contractors, the contractors DO NOT work for them. "No performance evaluation was given to Mike during his employment at Learjet by his suporvisor or his lead." NO evaluation during the TWO weeks he was there, and again he did NOT work for Leer, he was a contractor. BUT, his lead SHOULD have known he was "laid off". How Adecco/Tad gets paid does not concern you, what does it matter to you? I am sure it is in their contract with Leer. I found this part VERY interesting: "My husband was not able to voice his complaint as I have in his behalf because of a little clause in Adecco i.e Tad Technical's contracts concerning contractor's issueing complaints against them." If he no longer works for Adecco/TAD, he is no longer bound by that contract. I would love to see the EXACT wording in that clause of the contract. I suspect it would be unenforceable and/or illegal. How can he complain to the labor board if this clause is in effect?? Adecco/TAD does NOT create jobs (unless you work DIRECTLY for them) they place people in pre-existing jobs usually as contractors. "Because from what was posted on the internet from Learjet the job never existed." If they posted the job on the internet, why would they need to go through a contract agency?? I have to agree with Thomas, find a regular permanent position and STAY in it. I am currently in my 13th month (going on 14) as a contractor and desparately looking for a permanent position.
Kristina
Hutchinson,#5Author of original report
Tue, December 26, 2006
Thank you Thomas in South Carolina. How true is your advice. On the bright side of things Mike got hired on in Oklahoma for another job similar to what he was doing at Learjet. We plan to settle down in Oklahoma.
Thomas
Anderson,#6Consumer Comment
Tue, December 26, 2006
You must talk with people who are on site to learn what is really happening. You simply cannot trust what you are told by someone at a jobshop. I worked contract for several years until my first "captive" employer made me an offer I could not refuse. In a few years, I was making more money "captive" than I ever could in jobshopping. I also retired from the company and I am now far better off than I ever could have been had I stayed in jobbing. Maybe your Mike should think about this? It IS true that a rolling stone gathers no moss.
Kristina
Hutchinson,#7Author of original report
Tue, December 26, 2006
About 2 days after posting first Rip-Off Report Adecco responded via email. They tried to claim that my husband Mike had performance issues but would not even elaborate what they where even him. It was also discovered that not only did HR at Learjet not know when Mike got layed off but they also did not know when he got hired on. I happen to know first hand being at one time an employer in an "at will state" there are certain things you can and can not do as an employer. No performance evaluation was given to Mike during his employment at Learjet by his suporvisor or his lead. That is why his lead was totally unaware of his sudden lay off and the circumstances surrounding it. Also we learned from Adecco i.e Tad Technical that for every person (client) they bring in for employment they get a fee-bonus that's completely if the person (client) goes through processing and actually starting the job . Whether or not the person (client) lasts at the job they at Adecco i.e Tad Technical still gets to pocket their money. For HR at Learjet to not be aware of when Mike was hired and layed off makes things look very fishy between Adecco i.e Tad Technical's and their supervisor (contact) at Learjet. Also Adecco i.e Tad Technical was disputing paying Mike his last pay check. In Kansas if you show up for work and your employer doesn't call you to tell you there isn't any work and you show up anyway, under Kansas Labor Laws you are intitled to 4 paid hours, that's if you are sent home. Mike showed up on his last day and clocked in prior to him being layed off. His supervisor put him down for 8 hours. Adecco i.e Tad Technical in our opinion him-hawed and tried to dispute it. We had to threaten them (by email) with turning Adecco i.e Tad Technical into the Kansas Labor Boards. Which would have meant an investigation. Mike called the Wichita, Kansas office of Tad Technical on 12/26/06 to find out if he was going to receive his last pay check and they actually complied out of all they have put us through. My husband was not able to voice his complaint as I have in his behalf because of a little clause in Adecco i.e Tad Technical's contracts concerning contractor's issueing complaints against them. It is still our opinion that Adecco i.e. Tad Technical ruin's and uproots people's lives rather than creates job's. Because from what was posted on the internet from Learjet the job never existed.