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  • Report:  #472642

Complaint Review: Annuitygoldmine.com - El Segundo, California Nationwide

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- Oceanside, California,
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Annuitygoldmine.com
Mark Sugarman El Segundo, California, 90245 Nationwide, U.S.A.
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We in the annuity and life sales market have been consistently faced with compliance regulations. We all look to generate referrals and we have paid a lot of money to do this. Along comes Annuitygoldmine.com reputing themselves to be market sales pros at acquiring leads for annuity sales. You sign up and give them money, then the quality of referrals that they are giving you on average are 1 out of 10 half decent. Some prospects don't even know why you are there.

I have taken time to determine the experiences that other people have had with this organization. Complaints are that they don't return calls,that they are in meetings and get irritated when you complain. One principle says that you will get a refund and then you never hear from them again.

Other accusations are that annuitygoldmine changes names and that they have one Mark Sugarman that goes by multiple names. Why do they have to do this if they had half decent results. This organization has to work twice as hard at disgusing who they are. They love the name Mark: Mark Sugarman, Mark Howard, Mark Lain, Mark Phillips Mark T and Neil. Neil sells you the program and then turns you over to Howard.

One producer that I talked to said that he had not made a sell and they used him as a referral to let people know what a great program that they had. Sugarman got upset because the producer would not lie for him. He said is Sugarman working for me or am I working for them.

The annuity market should be a good possibility at this time, but prospects are apprehensive because of the state of the economy. A producer who has used annuity goldmine system tells me that the principals are staying in this program and need constant new blood to bleed.

My sentiment is to check these people out before you make a commitment. If you get a sell out of their solicitation consider yourself fortunate.

Benji

Oceanside, California

U.S.A.


1 Updates & Rebuttals

Jeffrey Baitz

El Segundo,
California,
USA
INSURANCE MARKETING SERVICES REBUTTAL

#2REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, September 25, 2009

Once again, as president and chief executive officer of Insurance Marketing Services, I consider it a privilege to have the opportunity to respond to the misstated conjecture and hyperbole of the current report. As I have explained in my previous rebuttal to the other report recently posted on this website (on April 25, 2009) which apparently inspired this one, these are the first and only two complaints against our company on Ripoff Report after twelve years of well-established, good business practice and seem to be primarily the result of a confluence of incorrect presumptions quoted from erroneous sources. As before, I wish to thank the administrators of Ripoff Report for affording me the opportunity to clarify these misunderstandings. I'll try not to repeat myself from the previous response to the other report, so I encourage you to read it first for the purpose of clarity. But at the risk of being redundant, I need to unequivocally clarify once more that the name of our company is Insurance Marketing Services (hereinafter referred to as IMS). We have been conducting business operations with the same name, under the same management, since August 20, 1997, as accurately reflected in our profile at the Better Business Bureau, where we have consistently maintained a high rating since our inception. Although our website address is annuitygoldmine.com, we have no affiliation with any other competing companies marketing related services. Some confusion seems to have arisen because an independent sales representative named Mark Sugarman, who was previously contracted with our firm, but is no longer associated with us, had worked for other marketing companies before ours and this precipitated the altogether incorrect assumption that he was the owner of IMS. To confuse matters further, the current writer quotes a speculative list of aliases for Mr. Sugarman gleaned from incorrect sources which theorized that nearly everyone named "Mark" who had ever worked for our company, and probably for Mr. Sugarman's former employers as well, must have all been Mark Sugarman himself! Ironically, these writers always hide behind pseudonyms themselves. To move forward, the post above is a blatant misuse of the Ripoff Report forum, which is supposed to be reserved for filing truthful complaints of unethical or fraudulent business practices by victims who have been treated unfairly. The writer slanders our integrity and that of our dedicated staff, despite the fact that he has clearly never been one of our clients, nor does he claim to have been. Without firsthand knowledge of the quality of our services (or even a clear understanding of which company he's actually talking about), he therefor has no legitimate grounds for filing a complaint. He is treating Ripoff Report as a personal blog to philosophically reflect upon other (inaccurate) posts and in so doing has inadvertently perpetuated fundamental misunderstandings about who we are and what we do. He also claims to repeat hearsay gossip which he supposedly heard from third parties (lacking citation, of course). Unfortunately, neither of the scenarios he refers to have been articulated to such a degree as to make logical since. But such is the case with much unedited internet "writing" absent of editorial review, ethical oversight or rigor of content control. Individuals like this now have a platform for venting their rants and ill-conceived opinions, regardless of how misdirected they may be or the harm they inflict on honest people. Now that "Benji" has performed his latest public service, I wonder where he's off to next? Jeffrey Baitz president and chief executive officer Insurance Marketing Services 214 Main St., no. 141 El Segundo, CA 90245 http://annuitygoldmine.com/ Links to both Ripoff Reports and their respective rebuttals, as well as our profile at the Better Business Bureau, are available upon request from our public relations office. Please feel free to contact us for further information.

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