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  • Report:  #216593

Complaint Review: Bill Heard Chevrolet Sanford - Sanford Florida

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- orlando, Florida,
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Bill Heard Chevrolet Sanford
orlandochevy.com Sanford, Florida, U.S.A.
Phone:
407-302-5796
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On Sat. Oct.14, 2006 I James Jones went to Bill Heard in Sanford to try and get into a car. after arriving to the lot and meeting Richard Boyd the salesman, we went into his office and we started talking about buying a car. I told him of my credit problems, he laugh and said no problem they could get anyone financed he even told me of a recent coustomer that they got financed a week ago with a credit score of 420. after hearing this I was encourged. after I signed all the papers he took them over to Rahim Madina who came in and took over, Mr.Madina informed me that i would need a co-signer and that it didn't matter who it was because they would only be on the loan for 6-8 months and after that I could get the car re-financed in my name only so I called my sister, she agreeded so they took her info over the phone about 10 minutes later Richard Boyd came back in and said that everything was ok and that he was taking the papers to my sister to signed, I asked why I thought you didn't need her to be here is what I was told in the biginning he told me oh she just has to sign a couple of papers and that on behalf of Bill Heard they wanted to make this whol experince as easy for us as possible and that while the car was being detailed he would drive to my sister's house in Orlando and get the papers signed and then return. So I called my sister to let her know that Richard Byod was on his way.(27 miles away)After he returned he came into the office along with Rahim Madina and told me that it would only be a few more minutes 35 minutes later they came and got me. When I went outside the car was parked in the front with a temp tag, detailed and ready Richard put an envelope in the glovebox and said here are the papers and enjoy your new car they both shook my hand and I drove off when I got home and me and my sister looked over the paper work we noticed that my name was no where on the paperwork which was strange because I signed them first. we then called the Dealership back to ask why wasn't I on the paperwork and what was going on. we were told that the Finance office was closed for the night and to come back in tomorrow @ 9:00am and everything would be taken care of. The next day I went back to the lot and when I got there I was told this sad story that the finance people summitted the wrong paperwork I ask how could could this be seeing on how my name was on the orginal paperwork Rahim Madina told me that because of my credit they had to redo the paperwork and had to put my sister's name first on the loan. I told them (very angry)that she already had a car loan and that she was tring to but a house and didn't need all this on her credit they told me that it wouldn't affect her credit it would only help her. So I called her and told her to come down. After about an hour she arrived we walked back to the office where we all got into a heated shouting match Rahim Madina told us that "On behalf of Bill Heard they would take care of everything and that they both were very sorry that the finance dept left me off the loan, and that the only reason this happened was because they were short staffed because they had 3 people quit that previous Sat. Mr. Madina then told us give him until 10:00am the next day and that everything would be fixed he promised so I said ok I will take off yet another day from work to resolve this.The next day I was there at 9:50am Richard told me that the bank had not yet responded back and that as soon as they did he would bring the paperwork out for us to resign I agreed to wait at home. Some hours later I called and asked what was going on I was told that and I qoute"Like we told you in the beginning that if we could not get this deal done we would VOID the contract" I said ok lets void the deal they told us to bring the car back.When we arrived back to the car dealership the people wasn't as friendly everyone avoided us they even paged Richard and Rahim overhead neither of which ever came up to the front so we walked back only to find them both sitting in the office looking as if they both had seen a ghost we asked why they didn't come when they were paged "no answer" by this time my sister is, "pissed off" then finally the used car director finally got involved and told us that he would take care us but,a few minutes later he sent another salesman in to re take our info 40 min. later he came back and ask if we would walk with him outside thats when he showed us 6 different bank drafts stating that we were denied as long as I was on the loan

these drafts were from Sat Oct 14 he also told us that if the dealership found out he told us this he could loose his job I asked him could I have a copy he told me he couldn't but he advised us to call the main office in Georgia and just tell them of this whole ordeal. We called them but have not heard anything yet. and the bad thing about it is not only are we stuck with the car but now I have to pay 677.00 a month in the process because they never honored the price that was in the catalog of 19,999 we were told that we couldn't get that deal. So i ask you what now? Oh, and by the way we are in the process of seeking legal advice.

James

orlando, Florida
U.S.A.

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7 Updates & Rebuttals

Disgusted

Baytown,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Still doing Business The Same Way But In A New Place

#2UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, September 13, 2007

I work with this same salesman, Rahim Madina. Here at Baytown Mitsubishi, In Baytown,Tx. I listen to him tell the same lies to all his customers. I'm new to the car business and see why salesman are always portrayed as liars and thieves. If anyone thinks about buying a car from him please think twice and get it in writing.


Disgusted

Baytown,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Still doing Business The Same Way But In A New Place

#3UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, September 13, 2007

I work with this same salesman, Rahim Madina. Here at Baytown Mitsubishi, In Baytown,Tx. I listen to him tell the same lies to all his customers. I'm new to the car business and see why salesman are always portrayed as liars and thieves. If anyone thinks about buying a car from him please think twice and get it in writing.


Disgusted

Baytown,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Still doing Business The Same Way But In A New Place

#4UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, September 13, 2007

I work with this same salesman, Rahim Madina. Here at Baytown Mitsubishi, In Baytown,Tx. I listen to him tell the same lies to all his customers. I'm new to the car business and see why salesman are always portrayed as liars and thieves. If anyone thinks about buying a car from him please think twice and get it in writing.


Disgusted

Baytown,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Still doing Business The Same Way But In A New Place

#5UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, September 13, 2007

I work with this same salesman, Rahim Madina. Here at Baytown Mitsubishi, In Baytown,Tx. I listen to him tell the same lies to all his customers. I'm new to the car business and see why salesman are always portrayed as liars and thieves. If anyone thinks about buying a car from him please think twice and get it in writing.


Damon

Memphis,
Tennessee,
U.S.A.
EVERY DEALER I'VE EVER KNOWN HAS A DOCUMENTATION FEE.

#6UPDATE Employee

Mon, August 06, 2007

THIS FEE HANDLES SEVERAL THINGS, LIKE OVERNIGHT FEDEX, UPS, ETC FEES GETTING THE PAPERWORK TO AND FROM THE BANK, NEXT DAY AIR ON PAYOFFS SO YOUR TRADES DON'T GET BEHIND, MAKING THE TRIPS TO THE TAG OFFICES FOR THE CUSTOMER. HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM PAYING A SAM'S CLUB, COSTCO CLUB MEMBER FEE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOP THERE? IT'S NOT.


Jim

Orlando,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Bogus Billy Strikes Again and You Asked For It!!!

#7Consumer Suggestion

Wed, July 04, 2007

James: Why didn't you READ and UNDERSTAND the papers B-E-F-O-R-E you signed them? How difficult is it to understand to do that? Just think James, you could have found out what a BOGUS BILLY accomplice was trying to do and YOU could have put a stop to it! Doesn't that make sense? Now how about more bad news... How much did they say the car cost? I would just about guarantee BOGUS BILLY played the false price/dealer fee con-game on you! Here's how that SCAM works... they represent the price of a car to be say, $12000. But wait, there's a BOGUS BILLY dealer fee later for $450-$750! You don't get the car unless you pay BOGUS BILLY the BOGUS DEALER FEE. All of this BOGUS fee goes to BOGUS BILLY. Therefore, the real price of the car is the $12000+the BOGUS FEE. Remember, there is NO SUCH thing as a "dealer fee" for "administrative" purposes. Its nothing more than a sleezy, pond scum, slime ball car dealer SCAM to lie to you about the price of the car. When was the last time you paid a "dealer fee" at McDonalds, Walmart or any other retailer? Why not? Because most other areas of retail operate with more integrity and honesty than the slime balls in the car business. By the way James, BOGUS BILLY paid the Florida Attorney General $300,000 + in connection with fraud and deception at that Sanford garbage dump. Spread the word James! Be Well!


Timothy

Deland,
Florida,
U.S.A.
Mine was good

#8Consumer Comment

Mon, July 02, 2007

I am writting this because of the negative comments about the dealership. I am a customer of the Sanford Florida location. I experienced an easy transaction but a friend attempted to do the same on the same vehicle and in automotive terms "The Wheels Came Off." I am still presently deployed to Iraq, on my mid tour leave I went for breakfast with my wife and we talked about more children. We have 2 now and had a Volvo XC70 2004 model. She had been driving excessive and the vehicle had over 75,000 miles on it. I knew it was time to trade up and get away from it, never had a problem with it and didn't want one. We stopped by looking at the 2007 Tahoe line and centered on the LT2 model. The vehicle was exactly what we wanted. Although I wasn't sure about buying it we decided caution was the best approach, besides I had yard work to complete before going back to Iraq. She test drove it and we left, I did take the salesmans card. Never left any information on us, just left. After completing my chores, I walked in the house and said "I am thinking about buying that Tahoe." I called the salesmans cell phone on the card and told him I thought I wanted it. He asked me if I could wait because he was at home already with his young son. I told him if he wanted me to buy he needed to move on it now because I was shipping back out within 72 hours. "No problem, on my way," he said. We went back to the dealership, the appraisal came back on my Volvo, $1500.00 higher than I expected, we dealt off the dealer invoice green bar for pricing, I did check the rebates and such on the internet, FNI came out with them right away, answered my questions before I asked and even tacked on the Military $500.00 program. We looked at payments, told him we were still away on it, he came back with I needed more money down, I said OK, I came to half of what he said was needed and told him to go back to FNI and bring his half back. He came back with some more off and we settled, the FNI manager came in to close, I was still shaky on it and said "I need to test drive it, I havent even been behind the wheel yet." FNI let into the salesman and I went on a test drive. Came back after driving it and discussing it more with my wife. We decied yes and signed. Bill Heard had us out and done with a full tank of gas, plates exchanged and a mini detail within 90 minutes. Done. I was satisfied and felt like I recieved a fair shake from them. I did hear strange conversations when I was there, but as a buyer you need to be aware of what you are doing. Research your purchase, know about things, take someone with you. Same week, my friend attempted to buy the exact vehicle over the phone, I am not sure what happened but she got all the way to the end, ready to sign and the vehicle was not what she had test driven or the package she wanted. She left pissed. Cannot even fathom what the real issue was but in less than 10 days she went to the Plant City Bill Heard and bought the exact same vehicle we purchased at the terms she wanted. Why? Cannot tell you. We did experience an accident within the first month, used their body shop thru Allstate to fix it. That didn't go well. 5 trips in to get it repaired to standard, but its done now. These dealerships actually employ your neighbors, your friends and even your relatives. Not just Bill Heard but all of them. Ask about them before you go. Communication is the key, whether the vehicle wears a bowtie or a blue oval, ask someone. Check the information and make 2 trips not one, a vehicle is usually your 3rd largest investment next to your children and home.

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