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Business Makers The Biggest Joke In MLM ripoff Opelika Alabama
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you..
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you..
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you..
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you..
*Consumer Comment: You can't trust on Business Makers or their sister companies!
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: False Accusations
To: anybody thinking about the business makers business
DON'T DO IT
I use to work in the call center in Alabama. That's the same call center that jodis butler is the member services director at. Anything jodis butler tells you is a LIE. I have personally seen and heard him tell members that he will have them in a downline with 70-80 members in it within 24-48 hours IT NEVER HAPPENS AND IT NEVER WILL. Jodis does nothing but LIE CHEAT AND STEEL from the members in the company.
I gave up my salary pay from the call center to become a member. I was allowed to work in the center in a commission position. When I started asking when would I get paid for the enrollments I made I got fired. Jodis did not have the money to pay me so he fired me so he wouldn't have to pay me. The guaranteed income plan is a joke. It's just a way to get people to waste their money on advertising that business makers is supposed to be doing for them but it never happens. They don't promote your website for you or help you unless you pay them more $$$$$ for a callpack which is another waste of money because they give half a*s presentations about the business.
I have seen jodis take sales from a customer's call pack and enroll them with the call center as there sponser so the center would get the fast start bonus and not the member who wasted $200.00 on a callpack. There are no experts in MLM working in the call center I have seen jodis hire anybody off the street and give them a script to read when they call leads and pass them off as one of the so called experts. Yea and if you request a refund for the GUARANTEED INCOME PLAN you might get it in 3 payments 60 days apart from each other if your lucky enough to catch them when they have any money. Don't THROW your money away on business makers. Half the time the reason members DONT receive a commission check is not because the checks have not been processed it's because they DONT HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY COMMISSIONS and there just buying time till they can borrow the money.
If you don't believe me go ahead and waste your money on business makers. It's the biggest joke in MLM. The C.A.R.S marketing system is the same exact thing you can get at http://www.imarketonline.com or wtpowers for $39.95 a month. Also chew on this the C.A.R.S marketing system only cost business makers about $26.95 a month and they are charging the members $139.95 a month. If you ask me that's a scam. Jodis takes his buddies and places them at the top of the matrix so they make money off the paying members at the bottom.
I have seen members have 100 members in there downline one day and then they only have 2 members the next day because the matrix was compressed or so they say it was. I know the real story. Members become inactive and they pull them out witch makes the bottom of the matrix smaller and the middle bigger so jodis and all his buddies make more money from being at the top. By the way he tells everybody that we have a sales dept with 45 consultants on day shift and 45 on night shift, but the truth is only about 2-3 on day shift and 5-6 on night shift.
The sales supervisor has only enrolled 4 new members in the whole two months he has worked at business makers I guess this is one of the so called experts jodis keeps talking about. In the month of 6/04 the call center only enrolled 5 new members into the program that's not being productive in my book. There is no way business makers will grow if they can't enroll more members than that. I guess that's the effort of all the 45 consultants they don't have working on the members behalf. I have been in MLM for the past 10 years and have never seen a more F***ED UP PROGRAM than business makers. How can you help members succeed when you can't even pay the $$$$$ they are due. They just imposed this new enrollment fee of $50.00
As a way to steel even more money from the members of joke makers. And robin the c.e.o he is one of the stupidest dumbasses I have ever seen. He pays a consultant David Alameda 10,000.00/month to advise him on what he should do with the business, but robin never does what David advises him to do. If that's not retarded I don't know what is. If you ask me robin doesn't know anything do you really want a guy like that having control of your money?
xemployee & another member that got screwed
Rick opelika, Alabama
U.S.A.
CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
DON'T DO IT
I use to work in the call center in Alabama. That's the same call center that jodis butler is the member services director at. Anything jodis butler tells you is a LIE. I have personally seen and heard him tell members that he will have them in a downline with 70-80 members in it within 24-48 hours IT NEVER HAPPENS AND IT NEVER WILL. Jodis does nothing but LIE CHEAT AND STEEL from the members in the company.
I gave up my salary pay from the call center to become a member. I was allowed to work in the center in a commission position. When I started asking when would I get paid for the enrollments I made I got fired. Jodis did not have the money to pay me so he fired me so he wouldn't have to pay me. The guaranteed income plan is a joke. It's just a way to get people to waste their money on advertising that business makers is supposed to be doing for them but it never happens. They don't promote your website for you or help you unless you pay them more $$$$$ for a callpack which is another waste of money because they give half a*s presentations about the business.
I have seen jodis take sales from a customer's call pack and enroll them with the call center as there sponser so the center would get the fast start bonus and not the member who wasted $200.00 on a callpack. There are no experts in MLM working in the call center I have seen jodis hire anybody off the street and give them a script to read when they call leads and pass them off as one of the so called experts. Yea and if you request a refund for the GUARANTEED INCOME PLAN you might get it in 3 payments 60 days apart from each other if your lucky enough to catch them when they have any money. Don't THROW your money away on business makers. Half the time the reason members DONT receive a commission check is not because the checks have not been processed it's because they DONT HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY COMMISSIONS and there just buying time till they can borrow the money.
If you don't believe me go ahead and waste your money on business makers. It's the biggest joke in MLM. The C.A.R.S marketing system is the same exact thing you can get at http://www.imarketonline.com or wtpowers for $39.95 a month. Also chew on this the C.A.R.S marketing system only cost business makers about $26.95 a month and they are charging the members $139.95 a month. If you ask me that's a scam. Jodis takes his buddies and places them at the top of the matrix so they make money off the paying members at the bottom.
I have seen members have 100 members in there downline one day and then they only have 2 members the next day because the matrix was compressed or so they say it was. I know the real story. Members become inactive and they pull them out witch makes the bottom of the matrix smaller and the middle bigger so jodis and all his buddies make more money from being at the top. By the way he tells everybody that we have a sales dept with 45 consultants on day shift and 45 on night shift, but the truth is only about 2-3 on day shift and 5-6 on night shift.
The sales supervisor has only enrolled 4 new members in the whole two months he has worked at business makers I guess this is one of the so called experts jodis keeps talking about. In the month of 6/04 the call center only enrolled 5 new members into the program that's not being productive in my book. There is no way business makers will grow if they can't enroll more members than that. I guess that's the effort of all the 45 consultants they don't have working on the members behalf. I have been in MLM for the past 10 years and have never seen a more F***ED UP PROGRAM than business makers. How can you help members succeed when you can't even pay the $$$$$ they are due. They just imposed this new enrollment fee of $50.00
As a way to steel even more money from the members of joke makers. And robin the c.e.o he is one of the stupidest dumbasses I have ever seen. He pays a consultant David Alameda 10,000.00/month to advise him on what he should do with the business, but robin never does what David advises him to do. If that's not retarded I don't know what is. If you ask me robin doesn't know anything do you really want a guy like that having control of your money?
xemployee & another member that got screwed
Rick opelika, Alabama
U.S.A.
CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
6 Updates & Rebuttals
Jason
Opelika,Alabama,
United States of America
False Accusations
#2UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, October 06, 2011
Remember me Rick!
Here are the real facts!
Business Makers Inc. was an outbound/inbound call center. Companies used Business Makers for their outsourcing solution to handle its local and national marketing campaigns. It carried multiple clients. Its only down fall was that Jodis Butler was in the military and could not be there much of the time. Also in order to keep
people working, feeding their families, and paying their bills, the company let
MLM companies use the call center which was something that would have never been done. It was that or letting people go! I know I was there in all of the business management meetings. In 2005 Hurricane Ivan destroyed the building closing the call center. You were not there but Mr. and Mrs. Butler paid 6 weeks of pay out of their pockets to all of the employees. That says a
lot!
Now, back to you! I was one of the supervisors over the call center. I told Mr. Butler that he should have had you
(Rick and a couple of your buddies) arrested for embezzlement. This guy Rick would call up his family and friends to sign them up on the various programs offered by Business Makers so he could get fast bonus money and then had them cancel their CC 14 days later.
Rick, you got paid an hourly wage and bonuses just to rip off the company. I remember
you! Youre a weasel and a crook! I wish this forum had the ability to listen
to the telephone recordings of the things you said!!!!
Steffen Lund
Soroe,Europe,
Denmark
You can't trust on Business Makers or their sister companies!
#3Consumer Comment
Mon, October 18, 2004
I am writing because I'm an earlier member of Business Makers and MLMextreme.com. 2 months after I joined Business Makers, I got 1 member in my downline, but not one single payout + when I wrote to them about a getting a refund after 6 months, they just ignored my question, but when it was about paying my membership fee, then they usually replyed in 8 - 24 hours. AND I DIDN'T GET A REFUND. I also had about $25 in my commissions wich I never recived. The truth is that Business Makers are in debt. And I know that because I knew someone who was working there. I also recommend that you avoid their sister company mlmextreme.com. I bought their opt-in email addresses for $500, and I got $25 in commission for the sale, but they never paid me the $25. Beside that most of these opt-in are invalid and old. I agree with Rick. Business Makers and their sister companies are pure scam. Regards,
Jodis
Opelika,Alabama,
U.S.A.
I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you..
#4REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, August 09, 2004
Hello Rick! I am very disappointed that you have chosen this avenue to spread slanderous accusations. Normally I would have turned this over to my attorney for this type of slander. Since its Sunday, I will not be able to do that. I am surprised that this forum even allowed you to post such trash without any foundation other than your statement; however we will talk about that in a moment. Let's address your concerns: 1. You were terminated from employment because YOU MISREPRESENTED THE COMPANY on several occasions. This is well documented from the complaints and emails received. They are also available to anyone's for review. It was also presented to labor board. I will not further debate your substandard behavior and professionalism on this forum. It is quite obvious that you do not know what you are talking about and that you have used this popular forum to vent your frustrations to again make false statements. Although I no longer represent the company that you mention, it is indeed satisfying to note that I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you.. Good Day! Director
Jodis
Opelika,Alabama,
U.S.A.
I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you..
#5REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, August 09, 2004
Hello Rick! I am very disappointed that you have chosen this avenue to spread slanderous accusations. Normally I would have turned this over to my attorney for this type of slander. Since its Sunday, I will not be able to do that. I am surprised that this forum even allowed you to post such trash without any foundation other than your statement; however we will talk about that in a moment. Let's address your concerns: 1. You were terminated from employment because YOU MISREPRESENTED THE COMPANY on several occasions. This is well documented from the complaints and emails received. They are also available to anyone's for review. It was also presented to labor board. I will not further debate your substandard behavior and professionalism on this forum. It is quite obvious that you do not know what you are talking about and that you have used this popular forum to vent your frustrations to again make false statements. Although I no longer represent the company that you mention, it is indeed satisfying to note that I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you.. Good Day! Director
Jodis
Opelika,Alabama,
U.S.A.
I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you..
#6REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, August 09, 2004
Hello Rick! I am very disappointed that you have chosen this avenue to spread slanderous accusations. Normally I would have turned this over to my attorney for this type of slander. Since its Sunday, I will not be able to do that. I am surprised that this forum even allowed you to post such trash without any foundation other than your statement; however we will talk about that in a moment. Let's address your concerns: 1. You were terminated from employment because YOU MISREPRESENTED THE COMPANY on several occasions. This is well documented from the complaints and emails received. They are also available to anyone's for review. It was also presented to labor board. I will not further debate your substandard behavior and professionalism on this forum. It is quite obvious that you do not know what you are talking about and that you have used this popular forum to vent your frustrations to again make false statements. Although I no longer represent the company that you mention, it is indeed satisfying to note that I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you.. Good Day! Director
Jodis
Opelika,Alabama,
U.S.A.
I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you..
#7REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, August 09, 2004
Hello Rick! I am very disappointed that you have chosen this avenue to spread slanderous accusations. Normally I would have turned this over to my attorney for this type of slander. Since its Sunday, I will not be able to do that. I am surprised that this forum even allowed you to post such trash without any foundation other than your statement; however we will talk about that in a moment. Let's address your concerns: 1. You were terminated from employment because YOU MISREPRESENTED THE COMPANY on several occasions. This is well documented from the complaints and emails received. They are also available to anyone's for review. It was also presented to labor board. I will not further debate your substandard behavior and professionalism on this forum. It is quite obvious that you do not know what you are talking about and that you have used this popular forum to vent your frustrations to again make false statements. Although I no longer represent the company that you mention, it is indeed satisfying to note that I have never enjoyed the privilege as much as I did in terminating you.. Good Day! Director
