Helene
Elgin,#2Consumer Comment
Mon, November 03, 2008
Kids have to learn how to get along in a lousy, often unfair, often dishonest and sometimes hateful world. It is called socialization. The kid will often encounter a lot of people that the kid does not like. They need to avoid the people that they dislike and hang with the people they do like. NOBODY HOLDS A GUN TO YOUR HEAD AND FORCES YOU TO GO TO SUNDAY SCHOOL! So don't go if you don't like it. Or go to one at another Episcopal Church... I think you will find a uniformity in doctrine in most Anglican churches and possibly of teaching as well and you won't be bothered by this person with whom you do not get along. You can't read the Bible yourself? But in real life, you will have people like this who are your bosses or who are your college professors and public school teachers... So you might as well get used to it. I can't help but wonder why you keep going to this Sunday School class if this lady upsets you. You do NOT have mandatory attendance at Sunday School. Besides, I don't think G*d lives in Temples built with hands as the Christian Bible tells you. You can Believe most of what is written in it, especially the First Five Books of the Old Testament as you Christians call it. We call it the Torah but the Writings, you know them as Proverbs and Psalms contain much good advice and comfort.
Tammytk
Chicago,#3Consumer Comment
Sun, November 02, 2008
I don't think whoever wrote this was trying to put down any body's religion. It looks like they were trying to warn people the teacher at that particular church has got an anger problem and is not the right person to be around kids.
Joe
Austin,#4Consumer Suggestion
Sun, November 02, 2008
If you don't like the Church you attend -- LEAVE! I don't think you are learning the values that your Lord and Savior Who is supposed to have founded the CHRISTIAN RELIGION ---AND WHO WAS ALSO JEWISH, by the way, an inconvenient TRUTH FORGOTTEN BY MANY, taught. I do not recall Yeshua bar Yousif, the Aramaic name for Jesus Christ as you guys call Him, EVER teaching HATRED and DIVISIVENESS FOR ANYONE. He was all about LOVE, DOING THE RIGHT THING, FORGIVENESS,FORBEARANCE AND PEACE. And not once do I EVER remember Him denouncing the CONTENTS of the TORAH which you might try reading sometime. You guys call it the "Old Testament" and it has some neat rules to live by in those first Five Books. I visited quite a few Christian denominations in deciding whether or not I wanted to remain in my religious affiliation. Just because I didn't belong there doesn't mean that someone else won't find a beautiful spiritual fulfillment. Sometimes, you have to question your faith because you grow in life and one expression of faith might not be appropriate for you in another phase of your life OR you may decide as I did, that what you have is good enough to remain there. SUNDAY SCHOOL? Maybe your teacher was challenging you to THINK, to criticize your faith and to criticize the conclusions that you reached by faulty logic and to make you articulate a good and logical defense against what she proposed. That is doenin law school all the time and it hurts. It is supposed to. Because growing intellectually and learning to think for yourself, to form your own ideas AGAINST what you may have been brainwashed with all your life HURTS. Especially when you realize you sometimeshave to go against what a SOCIETY THINKS IS THE WAY THINGS OUGHT TO BE -- like challenging the EVIL system of SEGREGATION and DISCRIMINATION against entire groups of people and sometimes MURDERING THEM just because they are "different"from you. I have attended the Catholic Church sometimes myself for the beauty of their lithurgy. I disagree with some of their basic tenets but overall, they have a very BEAUTIFUL RITUAL. ( I am not talking about the misguided and evil persons who called themselves priests and exploited the kids because you have evil in EVERY group!) They have always been courteous to me and answered my question and I took ther catachism course but never completed it because I wanted to know what they believed and why they believed it. They had an Inquisition in which millions of people who believed like me I AM JEWISH BY FAITH were murdered in Spain and Portugal in 1492 but THAT WAS THEN AND THIS IS NOW. I can forgive them. If you don't like what is being proffered by the Episcopal Church -- and many people don't --- YOU NEED TO CHECK OUT OTHER RELIGIOUS FAITHS ON YOUR OWN AND FIND ONE WHERE YOU CAN CONNECT WITH G*D SPIRITUALLY AND WHERE YOU FEEL THAT YOU BELONG! But to BASH OTHER PEOPLE'S RELIGIOUS FAITHS WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM IS IGNORANT,IMMATURE AND DOWNRIGHT STUPID. IT PUTS THE PEOPLE WHO DO THIS IN THE SAME LEAGUE WITH ADOLF HITLER. I have attended almost every Protestant Christian Denomination's religious services --including the Episcopalian Church, every Orthodox Church's religious services,the Catholic Church, The Buddhist services, the Hare Krisna and other Hindu services and I would have attended the Muslim services for curiousity as well but local law enforcement people were rather angry about the 911 attacks and were trying to sort out friend from foe and were photographing people going in and out of the Mosque and I quite frankly LOVE my country with the FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS GUARANTEED TO US UNDER THE US CONSTITUTION AND THAT IS FREEDOM TO WORSHIP ANY WAY WE SEE FIT. So if you don't like where you are going to "worship" --well, that is what you are SUPPOSED to be doing there anyway, NOT bashing members of other faiths,sounds like to me you need to find a Church where you CAN experience, as your guy Jesus or one of His followers once said." The PEACE that passeth ALL Understanding."