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  • Report:  #320718

Complaint Review: Chrysler Corp - Nationwide

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- Frederick, Maryland,
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Chrysler Corp
www.daimlerchrysler.com/ Nationwide, U.S.A.
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Bought 95 Dodge Stratus @ 63k...in April 07. 1 month later, car started going into limp mode.

Took car to Dodge dealer, diagnostics showed needed solenoid and TCM

Replaced and worked for about 1 month.

Took to transmission shop after replacing input and output sensors and various blown relays.

Transmission shop resoldered broken solder joints in main computer and control module. Said it was fixed, worked for 1 day. Spent $700 until they told me I needed new transmission. (Quoted me $3200)

Found transmission builder, paid $2100 to have transmission rebuilt. Worked for 3 days. Took back to transmission builder. He could not duplicate problem (limp mode)

Vehicle will drop down into first gear without warning throwing you towards the windshield.

Afer doing 1 year of research on this problem, I have found dozens and dozens of people in the same perdiciment. Some with transmissions rebuilt 3-5 times!

No one can figure out what is wrong with this car. Chrysler is no help. They say they are sorry I am having problems and to take it back to the dealer to have it diagnosed. Sure...so it will work for what? a month? a day? a week?

After seeing how many other people have this EXACT problem I have decided to post about my problem. I have asked numerous experts what they think my problem is. Most say I should just junk the car, find a cliff etc.

Chrysler should stand behind their product. There are many Stratus's and I'm sure Chrysler Cirrus, and Plymout Breeze's around that are doing the exact same thing and I've had Toyota Corolla's most of my life and I regret EVERY DAY that I didn't buy one instead of this piece of CRAP

Lizz11

Frederick, Maryland

U.S.A.


50 Updates & Rebuttals

Newfenoix

Arlington,
Texas,
U.S.A.
You can never assume.

#2Consumer Comment

Thu, November 06, 2008

My wife bought a 2006 Durango, new, in 2006. It is an EXCELLENT vehicle. I have a 98 Ford Windstar which I bought five years ago. This vehicle has been called one of the worst ever made. I now have 180,500 miles on it and it does just fine. And I was driving over 5000 miles a month when I was working as a private investigator. As for Toyota and Honda being over-rated? My next vehicle will be a Toyota Tundra. Why? I like it. And it is a heavy duty vehicle. Many people buy small vehicles, like the Rav4 and try to drive them like Hummers. Jumping stumps, mudding, etc. And they are reduced to junk in short order and the owner begins to blame the maker. Now, I am aware that Chrysler did have problems with several vehicles; the Neon, the Stratus, the Sebring, the PT Cruiser (actually just a re-bodied Neon). Now, this being said, you have to be willing to accept that IF you want one of those lemons. Moaning about the company just makes you look even more foolish. Remember the Yugo of the 1980's? It was a true piece of crap. But thousands of people bought them. The best advice is to RESEARCH what you are buying.


Andromeda

Near Roswell,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.
Andromeda 'screws up'

#3Consumer Comment

Sat, August 23, 2008

Charles, Please disregard my last post. I messed this up very badly. You did not post on RoR 363663. I need to check my posts BEFORE I hit the 'submit' button! I apologize! Good luck. Carry on.


Andromeda

Near Roswell,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.
Andromeda 'screws up'

#4Consumer Comment

Sat, August 23, 2008

Charles, Please disregard my last post. I messed this up very badly. You did not post on RoR 363663. I need to check my posts BEFORE I hit the 'submit' button! I apologize! Good luck. Carry on.


Andromeda

Near Roswell,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.
Andromeda 'screws up'

#5Consumer Comment

Sat, August 23, 2008

Charles, Please disregard my last post. I messed this up very badly. You did not post on RoR 363663. I need to check my posts BEFORE I hit the 'submit' button! I apologize! Good luck. Carry on.


Andromeda

Near Roswell,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.
Andromeda 'screws up'

#6Consumer Comment

Sat, August 23, 2008

Charles, Please disregard my last post. I messed this up very badly. You did not post on RoR 363663. I need to check my posts BEFORE I hit the 'submit' button! I apologize! Good luck. Carry on.


Andromeda

Near Roswell,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.
Living beyond your means.

#7Consumer Comment

Fri, August 22, 2008

Margaret Houston, Texas U.S.A. LIVING BEYOND YOUR MEANS 'If you live within your means and stop expecting more than you can afford then you could have a fully loaded beand new car.' Not relevant. Space filler. 'Toyotas?? I don't give a hoot about those ugly over priced and over hyped vehicles that don't even come with decent wheel covers brand new. I had a Toyota Supra, second hand and GIVEN TO ME BY MY MOTHER. IT SUCKED' Not relevant. Space filler. 'and I will never own another one.' Not relevant. Space filler. 'Now I am far from being wealthy, but fortunately I don't have kids which basically drain your budget. I have always had new cars since the Yota and not anything that was considered over priced but definately within my budget.' Not relevant. Space filler. What does Yota stand for? You misspelled definitely. 'I have purchased brand new: Ford Escort 11,500, Hyundai Excel 8,500, Ford Focus 10,995 and for my next car which I will be purchasing in the next 6 months, a 2008 Chey Aveo, fully loaded, sun roof and all, 12,995. Now those are affordable under the budget cars that can be paid off in 4 years or less, cheap to maintain, cheap to fuel and so what if its not a Dodge Stratus, Toyota Celica, Honda Accord or some other over priced over hyped vehicle that someone may just stick a kinfe in your back for.' Not relevant. Space filler. You misspelled knife. 'So you need to take a GOOD LOOK AT Yourself and finances and tell yourself I need transportation, brand new and I don't need a top of the line vehicle.' Not relevant. Space filler. 'And if you want to retire me at 65, go ahead. At least unlike yourself I will probably have enough money to retire then and still cruise around in my cute litte budget vehicle that I don't have to pay over 199.00 a month for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' Not relevant. Space filler. You misspelled little. Congratulations Margaret. Your post was absolutely useless to the Author!


Margaret

Houston,
Texas,
U.S.A.
FRIENDLY HELP?

#8Consumer Comment

Thu, April 10, 2008

Your help is not too friendly. I would never want to be driving a 15 year old car with 300,000 + miles on it UGGGH!!! And as for Michigan girl, you are just mad because I TOLD YOU THE TRUTH YOU DESERVE TO HEAR!!!


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Thanks

#9Author of original report

Fri, March 28, 2008

THanks Frank I'll hop on down to my local library and get one


Frank

Fort Monroe,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
Dear, dear Lizz11

#10Consumer Comment

Fri, March 28, 2008

You wrote: "And when I post helpful information. Someone accuses me of trying to be a conspiracy theorist." What you wrote was factually incorrect. It doesn't matter who you are or how many continents you have seen. You claimed that Edmonston's books were not available in the U.S., but anyone can get them from Amazon and Barnes & Noble. Neither site has a warning that his books cannot be shipped to U.S. addresses. Neither site states that "you can't order the books unless you can have someone in Canada send you one." You wrote: "so kiss my a*s if you want a copy." Gee, thanks so much for the offer, but I think I'll decline. You see, I can also get a copy of Edmonston's "Lemon-Aid" books at the following libraries in my area: Williamsburg/James City County, Hampton, Newport News, Norfolk, Suffolk, Chesapeake, and Portsmouth. Shall I inform the librarians in those seven library systems that Edmonston's books are not available in the U.S.?


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Thanks but....what done is done

#11Author of original report

Thu, March 27, 2008

Thanks Josh..Yeah I kinda realize that You really could have said something more constructive there though. Doesn't really help my situation any, what is done is done. I think I already mentioned I have had 5 Corollas in the past and they have all been good to me. The last one unfortunately was rusting out. That is the problem here on the East Coast rust belt. When I lived on the West coast there was no shortage of good used Japanese vehicles. I also mentioned that I had to make a compromise. I had a certain amount of money and a husband that did not want a smaller car. I think we had no idea how widespread the trans problems were since we own 2 dodge trucks! That being said, there are many vehicles of that age with that many miles on them Japanese included. Yes, in the last year I have only put 5000 miles on it. But it also apparently sat for a couple of years. I have consulted with many mechanics and the consensus is that I get it scanned at a Chrysler dealer due to the varying types of scan tools at many different shops. Some have your simple $1000 hand scanner which basically reads engine codes to your scanners that cost 10's of thousands of dollars that can help pinpoint bad wires or grounds etc etc. Many mechanics have also said that there are many many many of those transmissions running around with no problems. I am not defending Chrysler but if you look at other vehicles some have worse repair records. I work for a transmission broker now, I see more Fords than anything, mainly F-150's f-250s, Explorers (or exploders as we call them in Western Canada) Expeditions etc. I also see Escorts, Chevy S-10's, Hyundai's and Acuras. Rarely do I see a Honda or Toyota. I have seen 2 Dodge Stratus's. The one time I told the guy it sounded like the input sensor and he phoned me back all happy and said that is what it was so they are not all bad. This car I have to say when it works it works very nicely, the ride is nice, handles well, has nice power and good fuel economy. V-6 2.5L engine 28/32...better than a lot of new cars I see today. I guess my point is, there is "something" that is really dumb, really stupid wrong with this car. I want Chrysler to pay to have it scanned and diagnosed I feel that they know exactly what the problem is but are unwilling to help me. I also feel I have to mention that my power antenna is broken..why is that relevant? because it is connected to the stereo and factory amp (yes factory amp) Motor runs as if it is going up and down every time you turn on stereo so I disconnected it in the trunk. Hasn't gone into limp mode at all today..gee I wonder if that was a short that was causing it to go out of whack? I am not a professional mechanic or an electrician but I do understand both very well. I had been trying to figure out what might be causing a short. THIS IS WHY I POST THIS HERE! Because I see a pattern of problems and I expected that I would get some constructive help! Not criticism! Or stupid lame a*s slack jaw comments! I guess that was just too much to ask. And when I post helpful information. Someone accuses me of trying to be a conspiracy theorist. Buddy, you ever been outside your state? Or your town for that matter? I have been to 3 different continents and lived there so don't tell me about not understanding propaganda. I don't believe anything I hear in the news because I know it is a load of crap! And I've seen it from several different perspectives. You don't know who I am, what I am, how I think, what I do and what I know. And people...Empathy, how come so few people have the ability to put themselves in someone else's shoes? What a world!


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
I am not TRYING to sound like a conspiarcy theroist

#12Author of original report

Thu, March 27, 2008

You MAY have been able to get to the website but you can't order the books unless you can have someone in Canada send you one Maybe you just don't want to beleive this Government filters most everything for us...like there are 5000 canadian troops in Iraq or a great percentage of US Oil comes from Canada?? From Lemon-Aid website What is Lemon-Aid? FOR CANADIANS, ONLY NO ADVERTISING NO BUTT-KISSING Buy your Lemon-Aid from independent book stores, Chapters/Indigo, Costco, Sam's Club, or Amazon.ca. If you are really cheap, stand in line at your Canadian library reference desk! Remember, like universal healthcare and state-run auto insurance, Lemon-Aid isn't available in the States, Eh so kiss my a*s if you want a copy


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
I am not TRYING to sound like a conspiarcy theroist

#13Author of original report

Thu, March 27, 2008

You MAY have been able to get to the website but you can't order the books unless you can have someone in Canada send you one Maybe you just don't want to beleive this Government filters most everything for us...like there are 5000 canadian troops in Iraq or a great percentage of US Oil comes from Canada?? From Lemon-Aid website What is Lemon-Aid? FOR CANADIANS, ONLY NO ADVERTISING NO BUTT-KISSING Buy your Lemon-Aid from independent book stores, Chapters/Indigo, Costco, Sam's Club, or Amazon.ca. If you are really cheap, stand in line at your Canadian library reference desk! Remember, like universal healthcare and state-run auto insurance, Lemon-Aid isn't available in the States, Eh so kiss my a*s if you want a copy


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
I am not TRYING to sound like a conspiarcy theroist

#14Author of original report

Thu, March 27, 2008

You MAY have been able to get to the website but you can't order the books unless you can have someone in Canada send you one Maybe you just don't want to beleive this Government filters most everything for us...like there are 5000 canadian troops in Iraq or a great percentage of US Oil comes from Canada?? From Lemon-Aid website What is Lemon-Aid? FOR CANADIANS, ONLY NO ADVERTISING NO BUTT-KISSING Buy your Lemon-Aid from independent book stores, Chapters/Indigo, Costco, Sam's Club, or Amazon.ca. If you are really cheap, stand in line at your Canadian library reference desk! Remember, like universal healthcare and state-run auto insurance, Lemon-Aid isn't available in the States, Eh so kiss my a*s if you want a copy


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
I am not TRYING to sound like a conspiarcy theroist

#15Author of original report

Thu, March 27, 2008

You MAY have been able to get to the website but you can't order the books unless you can have someone in Canada send you one Maybe you just don't want to beleive this Government filters most everything for us...like there are 5000 canadian troops in Iraq or a great percentage of US Oil comes from Canada?? From Lemon-Aid website What is Lemon-Aid? FOR CANADIANS, ONLY NO ADVERTISING NO BUTT-KISSING Buy your Lemon-Aid from independent book stores, Chapters/Indigo, Costco, Sam's Club, or Amazon.ca. If you are really cheap, stand in line at your Canadian library reference desk! Remember, like universal healthcare and state-run auto insurance, Lemon-Aid isn't available in the States, Eh so kiss my a*s if you want a copy


Josh

Rolla,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Chrysler is junk

#16Consumer Comment

Thu, March 27, 2008

Ever think why a 12-year-old car had only 68k miles on it? Probably because it never worked right. The Dodge Stratus is one of the worst cars ever produced, and Chrysler has always been known for horrible transmissions. You probably would have been far better off with an older, high mileage Japanese car.


Josh

Rolla,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Chrysler is junk

#17Consumer Comment

Thu, March 27, 2008

Ever think why a 12-year-old car had only 68k miles on it? Probably because it never worked right. The Dodge Stratus is one of the worst cars ever produced, and Chrysler has always been known for horrible transmissions. You probably would have been far better off with an older, high mileage Japanese car.


Josh

Rolla,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Chrysler is junk

#18Consumer Comment

Thu, March 27, 2008

Ever think why a 12-year-old car had only 68k miles on it? Probably because it never worked right. The Dodge Stratus is one of the worst cars ever produced, and Chrysler has always been known for horrible transmissions. You probably would have been far better off with an older, high mileage Japanese car.


Josh

Rolla,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
Chrysler is junk

#19Consumer Comment

Thu, March 27, 2008

Ever think why a 12-year-old car had only 68k miles on it? Probably because it never worked right. The Dodge Stratus is one of the worst cars ever produced, and Chrysler has always been known for horrible transmissions. You probably would have been far better off with an older, high mileage Japanese car.


Frank

Fort Monroe,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
Lizz11, Please don't sound like a conspiracy theorist . . . .

#20Consumer Suggestion

Thu, March 27, 2008

Lizz11, I'm sorry you are having car problems, and I agree that many Dodge and Chrysler cars are unreliable. But you are not doing your credibility any good by sounding like a conspiracy theorist. You wrote: "This and other material is held back from us here in the US." Well, I just found Phil Edmonston's Lemon Aid books at both the Amazon and Barnes & Noble web sites. I was also able to get to Edmonston's own web site without a problem. So, if some mysterious, all-powerful secret government-sponsored organization is trying to suppress this information, it is doing an awfully bad job.


Frank

Fort Monroe,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
Lizz11, Please don't sound like a conspiracy theorist . . . .

#21Consumer Suggestion

Thu, March 27, 2008

Lizz11, I'm sorry you are having car problems, and I agree that many Dodge and Chrysler cars are unreliable. But you are not doing your credibility any good by sounding like a conspiracy theorist. You wrote: "This and other material is held back from us here in the US." Well, I just found Phil Edmonston's Lemon Aid books at both the Amazon and Barnes & Noble web sites. I was also able to get to Edmonston's own web site without a problem. So, if some mysterious, all-powerful secret government-sponsored organization is trying to suppress this information, it is doing an awfully bad job.


Frank

Fort Monroe,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
Lizz11, Please don't sound like a conspiracy theorist . . . .

#22Consumer Suggestion

Thu, March 27, 2008

Lizz11, I'm sorry you are having car problems, and I agree that many Dodge and Chrysler cars are unreliable. But you are not doing your credibility any good by sounding like a conspiracy theorist. You wrote: "This and other material is held back from us here in the US." Well, I just found Phil Edmonston's Lemon Aid books at both the Amazon and Barnes & Noble web sites. I was also able to get to Edmonston's own web site without a problem. So, if some mysterious, all-powerful secret government-sponsored organization is trying to suppress this information, it is doing an awfully bad job.


Frank

Fort Monroe,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
Lizz11, Please don't sound like a conspiracy theorist . . . .

#23Consumer Suggestion

Thu, March 27, 2008

Lizz11, I'm sorry you are having car problems, and I agree that many Dodge and Chrysler cars are unreliable. But you are not doing your credibility any good by sounding like a conspiracy theorist. You wrote: "This and other material is held back from us here in the US." Well, I just found Phil Edmonston's Lemon Aid books at both the Amazon and Barnes & Noble web sites. I was also able to get to Edmonston's own web site without a problem. So, if some mysterious, all-powerful secret government-sponsored organization is trying to suppress this information, it is doing an awfully bad job.


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Automobile reliability, saving gas and the envoirnment AND What i was looking for

#24Consumer Comment

Thu, March 27, 2008

After doing some research via help from my Canadian relatives I have found out some interesting informations 10 Biggest Auto Myths 1. You get what you pay for. No, cheaper cars are often better than luxury lemons. 2. Mercedes makes the best cars. No longer; even German drivers say they prefer Toyota and Lexus. 3. Hybrids are the future. Don't bet on it; fuel economy is over-stated by half and they can fry you in an accident. 4. Saturn is a different car company. Yeah, it is a pain in Uranus. 5. Toyota and Honda have impressive reliability. No longer; Trannies, engines and sliding doors are their nemesis. 6. New cars are better than used. Only if you are a new car dealer.. 7. US car companies are on the rebound. Call it a dead cat bounce' before rigor-mortis sets in. 8. You get a better deal paying cash. Only if you are from Bogota. 9. Dealers are more honest today. No, they just cheat you differently. 10. Cars are better made today. Partly, yes. Bodies are safer and more durable; engines and transmissions are less reliable and costlier to fix. ________________ Will fuel prices hit $1.25 a litre? It's inevitable. They are already at $1.10 to $1.18 across Canada. In the fall, they will go back to about $1 a litre. How high do you expect fuel prices to go? About $1.25 a litre over summer and drop down to a buck in the fall. Why? Rising cost of crude Fear of Iranian and Nigerian cutbacks Increased demand (China, especially) Reformulated fuel for lower emissions, etc. costs more Price gouging (ever notice prices go up same day as crude, don't go down for days or weeks when crude goes down). Summer is also the busiest driving season; prices always spike in summer months. What can we do? 1. Don't buy new. Keep old Betsy. She's paid for. Depreciation costs you many times what fuel costs. 2. Buy a used car. 3. Buy at the cheapest gas stations (saves 10 to 15 cents a litre) using gasbuddy.com. 4. Buy regular fuel (saves about 7 cents over premium). 5. Keep up car maintenance (saves about 10 percent in fuel costs) ***Margaret**** perhaps you ought to look at what buying a NEW car is doing to the enviornment and you are spending more in the process, insurance, depreciation. Look at numbers 1 and 2 or maybe you don't know how to even check your oil....are you one of those types that runs and runs your car until it gives up and then trades it in? More info for INTERESTED PEOPLE! What about hybrids, diesel and ethanol? They are mostly hi-tech scams. Hybrids' fuel figures are 30-40 percent inflated and there's a $8,000 battery pack replacement cost. Diesel fuel is being reformulated and engines re-engineered to cost more, present additional reliability problems, and diesel fuel will continue spiking. Plus, diesel emissions are highly toxic to persons with respiratory diseases. Ethanol costs more energy than it saves. Distribution is not assured. Ethanol plants are highly polluting and have been almost all cited by US EPA for illegal amounts of pollution emissions. AND LOOK WHAT I FOUND!!! Secret warranties: Chrysler, Ford, GM, and Asian automaker automatic transmissionsFaulty automatic transmissions that self-destruct, shift erratically, gear down to limp mode, are slow to shift, or are noisy. If you have the assistance of your dealer's service manager, or a Lemon-Aid service bulletin (pdf) ,expect an offer of 50 75 percent (about $2,500); file a claim in small claims court and you'll usually get a full goodwill refund up to 7 years/160,000 km. Acura, Honda, Hyundai, Lexus, and Toyota coverage varies between seven and eight years.


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Lemon Aide not availble in US

#25Author of original report

Thu, March 27, 2008

Cory, you should see this book Lemon Aide by that Edmunds guy that is available in Canada. I should have got my parents to send me a copy. Apparently it is not available in the US because if all of the LAWSUITS it would cause. It breaks down every car, new or used and all the problems with them. If I had that book I probably wouldn't have bought the dodge, it tells you common problems, how much they are to fix, customer service issues..and a tonne more. Very good book..top seller in Canada for when you buy a new or used car. You can get edmunds but it is just scratching the surface on what is available in his books. This is why I talk about propaganda..and I'm really not kidding. This and other material is held back from us here in the US. Unless you can see both sides like I do..and hear things that were in the news in Canada from your relatives..you just don't know and that car book is a small fraction. I guess a small part of my complaint to the rip off report is based because I feel left in the dark for information in the US...it is different in Canada and people are more free with information. (I'm sure there are places in the US too but I have yet to find them) I would have had that car figured out by now and a dealer mechanic would have told me all about how to fix it! i could go on and on and on and on


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Yes thanks to both of you

#26Author of original report

Thu, March 27, 2008

Yes, Margarets comments have no place in this topic. Also, I would like to point out that insurance rates are HIGHER on NEWER vehicles! I actually have had pretty good luck with vehicles. I have owned several Toyota Corollas..ok say 5...it was the rust that got to them and also 1 an accident and 1 I had to move from West coast to East coast and couldn't take it with me. I have bought most of my vehicles outright, most of them under 2000 and had very little repair except routine maintainence which I have done myself, brakes, oil changes, little repairs here and there. Many have them have lasted me for several years and been very dependable, so that much over 2-3 even 4 years? Margaret IS buying bacsically "disposable cars" My dad had a Dodge Ram and it was good, when I was young we had a 71 Dodge Polara and also a 77 Dodge Royal Monaco. The Polara ran and ran, the Monaco I think was problematic. Currently my husband has a 01 Dodge Dakota that gives us pretty much no problems and we also have an 89 Dodge W250 that we don't really use, it only has 65000 miles on it. We own the W250 outright. I can't see hauling a couch, furniture, fridge, washer or dryer with and Aveo...I'm sorry. LMAO I wanted another Corolla or other Toyota, I couldn't afford it. I didn't want a Ford or a GM. I work for a transmission broker and see more Fords than anything, in particular F-150's and Explorers. I wouldn't buy anything made in Taiwan (hyundai, Kia) and Honda's are more expensive and harder to access things in the engine compartment than Toyotas. I don't want something souped up, i just want something to get me around. My husband also didn't want something small so I had to make a compromise..I'm sure everyone has had to do that.. My husband used to work for Home Depot, he was a manager, he should file a rip off report about them...I won't even go into it! Some things you can cheap out on but some things you can't. Some people just have their prioritys mixed up and have to tell others how to run their lives. They blab their mouths off and have nothing productive to say, waste of air and space. I have been on the internet before the birth of internet explorer..I'm not old, just a computer technician..have been since 94. There are trolls everywhere..they send you spam, make viruses and harass you for making posts that don't fit in with their perfect little worlds. Unfortunately unlike IRC the first widely used chat we can't kick or ban her for being a unproductive idiot. Sounds like and I'm making an assumption that her parents or "Mommy" gave her lots anyways! I had to buy my first car, I didn't have one GIVEN to me. I would have loved to have one given to me no matter what it was! Thanks Margaret but take your primitive beleifs elsewhere..find a hobby that doesn't involve dogging people for problems that you have never had, never will have and never will understand due to your narrowmindedness and lack of empathy to understand. Don't judge me and I won't judge you. I don't want to tell you my life story and I don't want to hear yours. I have circumstances that prevent me from buying "Cute" cars like you do...dumb reason, because it came with "wheel covers"??? what about proper alloy wheels? they don't fall off dumbass! My car came with them! Sunroofs leak, they are problematic. All the bells and whistles just is more stuff to go wrong. My neighbor has a new car and it gives her problems already. I worked with a girl that traded her toyota for a hyundai and she regretted it and wanted her toyota back. Some people can't appreciate driving a QUALITY vehicle. Then again, most people can't even DRIVE! I for one can see a bigger picture and posted my problem here because I thought I could get help...not harassment. "opinions are like a$$holes everyone has one"


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Yes thanks to both of you

#27Author of original report

Thu, March 27, 2008

Yes, Margarets comments have no place in this topic. Also, I would like to point out that insurance rates are HIGHER on NEWER vehicles! I actually have had pretty good luck with vehicles. I have owned several Toyota Corollas..ok say 5...it was the rust that got to them and also 1 an accident and 1 I had to move from West coast to East coast and couldn't take it with me. I have bought most of my vehicles outright, most of them under 2000 and had very little repair except routine maintainence which I have done myself, brakes, oil changes, little repairs here and there. Many have them have lasted me for several years and been very dependable, so that much over 2-3 even 4 years? Margaret IS buying bacsically "disposable cars" My dad had a Dodge Ram and it was good, when I was young we had a 71 Dodge Polara and also a 77 Dodge Royal Monaco. The Polara ran and ran, the Monaco I think was problematic. Currently my husband has a 01 Dodge Dakota that gives us pretty much no problems and we also have an 89 Dodge W250 that we don't really use, it only has 65000 miles on it. We own the W250 outright. I can't see hauling a couch, furniture, fridge, washer or dryer with and Aveo...I'm sorry. LMAO I wanted another Corolla or other Toyota, I couldn't afford it. I didn't want a Ford or a GM. I work for a transmission broker and see more Fords than anything, in particular F-150's and Explorers. I wouldn't buy anything made in Taiwan (hyundai, Kia) and Honda's are more expensive and harder to access things in the engine compartment than Toyotas. I don't want something souped up, i just want something to get me around. My husband also didn't want something small so I had to make a compromise..I'm sure everyone has had to do that.. My husband used to work for Home Depot, he was a manager, he should file a rip off report about them...I won't even go into it! Some things you can cheap out on but some things you can't. Some people just have their prioritys mixed up and have to tell others how to run their lives. They blab their mouths off and have nothing productive to say, waste of air and space. I have been on the internet before the birth of internet explorer..I'm not old, just a computer technician..have been since 94. There are trolls everywhere..they send you spam, make viruses and harass you for making posts that don't fit in with their perfect little worlds. Unfortunately unlike IRC the first widely used chat we can't kick or ban her for being a unproductive idiot. Sounds like and I'm making an assumption that her parents or "Mommy" gave her lots anyways! I had to buy my first car, I didn't have one GIVEN to me. I would have loved to have one given to me no matter what it was! Thanks Margaret but take your primitive beleifs elsewhere..find a hobby that doesn't involve dogging people for problems that you have never had, never will have and never will understand due to your narrowmindedness and lack of empathy to understand. Don't judge me and I won't judge you. I don't want to tell you my life story and I don't want to hear yours. I have circumstances that prevent me from buying "Cute" cars like you do...dumb reason, because it came with "wheel covers"??? what about proper alloy wheels? they don't fall off dumbass! My car came with them! Sunroofs leak, they are problematic. All the bells and whistles just is more stuff to go wrong. My neighbor has a new car and it gives her problems already. I worked with a girl that traded her toyota for a hyundai and she regretted it and wanted her toyota back. Some people can't appreciate driving a QUALITY vehicle. Then again, most people can't even DRIVE! I for one can see a bigger picture and posted my problem here because I thought I could get help...not harassment. "opinions are like a$$holes everyone has one"


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Yes thanks to both of you

#28Author of original report

Thu, March 27, 2008

Yes, Margarets comments have no place in this topic. Also, I would like to point out that insurance rates are HIGHER on NEWER vehicles! I actually have had pretty good luck with vehicles. I have owned several Toyota Corollas..ok say 5...it was the rust that got to them and also 1 an accident and 1 I had to move from West coast to East coast and couldn't take it with me. I have bought most of my vehicles outright, most of them under 2000 and had very little repair except routine maintainence which I have done myself, brakes, oil changes, little repairs here and there. Many have them have lasted me for several years and been very dependable, so that much over 2-3 even 4 years? Margaret IS buying bacsically "disposable cars" My dad had a Dodge Ram and it was good, when I was young we had a 71 Dodge Polara and also a 77 Dodge Royal Monaco. The Polara ran and ran, the Monaco I think was problematic. Currently my husband has a 01 Dodge Dakota that gives us pretty much no problems and we also have an 89 Dodge W250 that we don't really use, it only has 65000 miles on it. We own the W250 outright. I can't see hauling a couch, furniture, fridge, washer or dryer with and Aveo...I'm sorry. LMAO I wanted another Corolla or other Toyota, I couldn't afford it. I didn't want a Ford or a GM. I work for a transmission broker and see more Fords than anything, in particular F-150's and Explorers. I wouldn't buy anything made in Taiwan (hyundai, Kia) and Honda's are more expensive and harder to access things in the engine compartment than Toyotas. I don't want something souped up, i just want something to get me around. My husband also didn't want something small so I had to make a compromise..I'm sure everyone has had to do that.. My husband used to work for Home Depot, he was a manager, he should file a rip off report about them...I won't even go into it! Some things you can cheap out on but some things you can't. Some people just have their prioritys mixed up and have to tell others how to run their lives. They blab their mouths off and have nothing productive to say, waste of air and space. I have been on the internet before the birth of internet explorer..I'm not old, just a computer technician..have been since 94. There are trolls everywhere..they send you spam, make viruses and harass you for making posts that don't fit in with their perfect little worlds. Unfortunately unlike IRC the first widely used chat we can't kick or ban her for being a unproductive idiot. Sounds like and I'm making an assumption that her parents or "Mommy" gave her lots anyways! I had to buy my first car, I didn't have one GIVEN to me. I would have loved to have one given to me no matter what it was! Thanks Margaret but take your primitive beleifs elsewhere..find a hobby that doesn't involve dogging people for problems that you have never had, never will have and never will understand due to your narrowmindedness and lack of empathy to understand. Don't judge me and I won't judge you. I don't want to tell you my life story and I don't want to hear yours. I have circumstances that prevent me from buying "Cute" cars like you do...dumb reason, because it came with "wheel covers"??? what about proper alloy wheels? they don't fall off dumbass! My car came with them! Sunroofs leak, they are problematic. All the bells and whistles just is more stuff to go wrong. My neighbor has a new car and it gives her problems already. I worked with a girl that traded her toyota for a hyundai and she regretted it and wanted her toyota back. Some people can't appreciate driving a QUALITY vehicle. Then again, most people can't even DRIVE! I for one can see a bigger picture and posted my problem here because I thought I could get help...not harassment. "opinions are like a$$holes everyone has one"


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Yes thanks to both of you

#29Author of original report

Thu, March 27, 2008

Yes, Margarets comments have no place in this topic. Also, I would like to point out that insurance rates are HIGHER on NEWER vehicles! I actually have had pretty good luck with vehicles. I have owned several Toyota Corollas..ok say 5...it was the rust that got to them and also 1 an accident and 1 I had to move from West coast to East coast and couldn't take it with me. I have bought most of my vehicles outright, most of them under 2000 and had very little repair except routine maintainence which I have done myself, brakes, oil changes, little repairs here and there. Many have them have lasted me for several years and been very dependable, so that much over 2-3 even 4 years? Margaret IS buying bacsically "disposable cars" My dad had a Dodge Ram and it was good, when I was young we had a 71 Dodge Polara and also a 77 Dodge Royal Monaco. The Polara ran and ran, the Monaco I think was problematic. Currently my husband has a 01 Dodge Dakota that gives us pretty much no problems and we also have an 89 Dodge W250 that we don't really use, it only has 65000 miles on it. We own the W250 outright. I can't see hauling a couch, furniture, fridge, washer or dryer with and Aveo...I'm sorry. LMAO I wanted another Corolla or other Toyota, I couldn't afford it. I didn't want a Ford or a GM. I work for a transmission broker and see more Fords than anything, in particular F-150's and Explorers. I wouldn't buy anything made in Taiwan (hyundai, Kia) and Honda's are more expensive and harder to access things in the engine compartment than Toyotas. I don't want something souped up, i just want something to get me around. My husband also didn't want something small so I had to make a compromise..I'm sure everyone has had to do that.. My husband used to work for Home Depot, he was a manager, he should file a rip off report about them...I won't even go into it! Some things you can cheap out on but some things you can't. Some people just have their prioritys mixed up and have to tell others how to run their lives. They blab their mouths off and have nothing productive to say, waste of air and space. I have been on the internet before the birth of internet explorer..I'm not old, just a computer technician..have been since 94. There are trolls everywhere..they send you spam, make viruses and harass you for making posts that don't fit in with their perfect little worlds. Unfortunately unlike IRC the first widely used chat we can't kick or ban her for being a unproductive idiot. Sounds like and I'm making an assumption that her parents or "Mommy" gave her lots anyways! I had to buy my first car, I didn't have one GIVEN to me. I would have loved to have one given to me no matter what it was! Thanks Margaret but take your primitive beleifs elsewhere..find a hobby that doesn't involve dogging people for problems that you have never had, never will have and never will understand due to your narrowmindedness and lack of empathy to understand. Don't judge me and I won't judge you. I don't want to tell you my life story and I don't want to hear yours. I have circumstances that prevent me from buying "Cute" cars like you do...dumb reason, because it came with "wheel covers"??? what about proper alloy wheels? they don't fall off dumbass! My car came with them! Sunroofs leak, they are problematic. All the bells and whistles just is more stuff to go wrong. My neighbor has a new car and it gives her problems already. I worked with a girl that traded her toyota for a hyundai and she regretted it and wanted her toyota back. Some people can't appreciate driving a QUALITY vehicle. Then again, most people can't even DRIVE! I for one can see a bigger picture and posted my problem here because I thought I could get help...not harassment. "opinions are like a$$holes everyone has one"


Charles

Phenix City,
Georgia,
U.S.A.
I have been done the same way

#30Consumer Comment

Wed, March 26, 2008

I to have been done the same way, these are people who think they have no problem's so they spend there time insulting people on this site. Even though rip-off report does not allow these kind's of comment's these people still post insult's, the main problem is they harass the poster they are usually agent't who work for the business to get people agaisnt the poster. Usually it's businesses slandering each other on this website yes it's all childish, then people argue for month's on end over nothing.


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Thanx YOU Friendly Help!

#31Author of original report

Wed, March 26, 2008

Yes, I have long beleived that the Japanese always knew how to build a car. When I was little my Aunt and Uncle had a Toyota Corolla and I beleive they were imported here in the late 60's? That car ran and ran. I had also watched other cars as I grew up and noticed which ones were better than others and you know what? Chrysler, GM and Ford STILL get Japanese companies to put components in their cars. I had a Chevy nova that was a Toyota Corolla, Chev badge on the outside, totally Corolla on the inside. I know there are Fords that have Mitsubushi engines and in fact the Dodge Stratus I have has a Mitsubshi engine in it. Fact of the matter is, the Stratus retailed for around 13K when it was new! US manufacturers still do not know how to build a 4cyl car. I had a boyfriend that had an Accord that went into the 300,000 range..no major repairs. You pay for quality, I am not talking about a BMW or Mercedes or Porshe, Just a well built Japanese Toyota or Honda and they are worth it. Parts are cheaper and they are on the whole cheaper to maintain because they break down less. I don't even need a Camry...a Corolla will do and a used one, as long as it has less than 70K on it! This is why I bought the Dodge, for the fact that it had an import engine in it. Sunroofs are problematic, they leak. My husband would tell you if you built a house, use 2X6's instead of 2X4's might cost you a bit more in the beginning but will save you more in the long run..energy wise. My Stratus gets 29/32 mpg...that is not so different than the cars that M is speaking of. Besides, I want to be able to fit more than 2 people in it. My neighbor has an Aveo and it is cheap feeling!


Cory

San Antonio,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Me Too II

#32Consumer Suggestion

Wed, March 26, 2008

The interesting thing is I bought the Dodge RamCharger from a retired Col. who treated it very well. If you take the figure of $2000 and divide it by 7 years it comes to about $285 PER YEAR or $23 per month to drive. I really can't complain even if I sink another $1000 into and drive it for another 4 or 5 years. Some people don't understand sarcasm. Look it up in the dictionary. EVERY year Consumer Report does a list of new/used vehicle to buy and stay away from, by price category. I died laughing cause my dipstick brother-in-law bought TWO of the vehicles, new, that they recommened aganist. On the other hand my wife and I had purchased new, TWO on the recommended list and that was before the list came out. A honda and a toyota. The dodge stratus is not on the list of recommended vehicles but there are others that are, that aren't expensive. It alll depends on which vehicle you select. Certain vehicle have a bad history for repairs from the git-go.


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
I feel like a victim of Margaret

#33Author of original report

Wed, March 26, 2008

*snip Ripoff Report is also not accepting comments like those found on many sites that have "threads" with meaningless comments, ..in most cases using foul and insulting language against others, similar to those assaults on victims who have come to the Ripoff Report for justice. *snip* She offers no help with her first post and goes on to compound it with comments that inflict that everyone has perfect credit and can afford a new car. I have not been in this country long enough to have a good credit standing. She does NOT adress my issues or help in any way. I do not even know how her comments get posted as they are not constructive or helpful! My issue is, I have a car that was reasonably priced when new, should work properly, I do my own work on my cars and I have not had problems with other cars, mainly TOYOTAS until this Dodge came along. My issue is that my car so far seems unfixable and that after owning it for a year and barely being able to drive it because of its mysterious problems I am totally aggrivated and it stressful! I have taken it to various mechanics including Chrysler and have had no luck so far except them offering to throw parts at it for $$$ Margaret has no empathy and her post belongs nowhere on this page.


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
I think you cruise rip off reports

#34Consumer Comment

Wed, March 26, 2008

I think you cruise rip off reports just to be a troll. Not one of those cars you mentioned would I personally want to be involved in an accident. Not that I have been in an accident that was my fault. Two times I was involved in getting rear ended by people who weren't paying attention. Fine, do what pleases you, but leave my situation out of it. I personally don't want to drive off a lot in a new car and lose money in the process. Obviously you are a typical American who has no idea what it is like to be in someone elses shoes. I have travelled extensively and I am an IMMIGRANT, yes IMMIGRANT and not from a poor country, I am from CANADA which is econimically better than the US right now. The reason I am here is because my husband is American. I didn't come here because I thought this was the all big US that everyone thinks it is. I think it is a crappy country, we are fed propagana by the media that blows my mind. It is a lot harder to immigrate to Canada than to the US. Pay $600 to the government and you are done! Canada is more discerning about who they let into their country! But, why do you care? You just make stupid suggestions based on things you know nothing about and I don't care to hear any other opinions from you. Wise up Margaret and stop trolling


Friendly Help

Anderson,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.
Ouch! This thread got offtrack & turned into a real catfight, didn't it?

#35Consumer Comment

Wed, March 26, 2008

Hondas & Toyotas are overhyped? No so. They offer quality and longevity. Our 1991 Camry went 323,000 miles over 16 years. The first repair ($115) was at 270,000 miles, and after two additional repairs (total of $615) I decided it was time for a new car. But if you only buy a new car every 15 years, you can afford a really nice new car! There is no mystery to this. Any company that remains in business, like all of us, has only so much monetary income. So the question is: How is that money spent? The greater the percentage of income that is taken by management, the less money there is remaining to pay for product development and quality materials that could be used to build the product. This is really basic. In Japan, the top Executive can be paid no more that 6X the lowest paid worker, while in the USA the top exec can be paid 400X to 700X as much as the lowest paid worker. So USA companies simply have less net money to spend on producing the products you might buy. Chrysler has the lowest sales volume of the USA 'Big Three', while GM has the highest. But the top execs & their Sr VP's, VP's, Admin Assistants, etc. at all of the 'Big Three' all earn about the same pay. Do the math. Even back to 1960, GM offered the most car for the money while Chrysler offered the least car for similar money. And Bob Nardelli did not seem to help Home Depot so much, although he did make a LOT of money there. Toyota & Honda can afford to redesign their cars & trucks every three years, while Detroit can only afford seven-year redesign cycles. Thanks to the Japanese, a lot improvements occur in automotive design and development in seven years!


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Better training needed for automotive technicians

#36Author of original report

Wed, March 26, 2008

I had taken this vehicle to several Chrysler dealers. I was very unhappy with what they told me. To compound the issue, I am female and they do not know that I have worked on cars for 20 years so they tend to give me BS answers. This makes me even madder. A person can go to several different shops and some of the smaller independent ones (not all) have neither the equipment nor the training to diagnose a vehicle with the number of onboard computers these days. They would rather guess (at your expense) and charge you to throw parts at your car to fix the problem. In my case, what dealers and shops both have told me my car needs has made it worse, compounding the issue and my car is a great deal of stres for me these days. What I'm sure is a $20 part has turned into a nightmare and I cannot figure out for the life of me what it is. I am afraid to bring it anywhere. Afraid to drive it, afraid to spend anymore money on it.


Margaret

Houston,
Texas,
U.S.A.
LIVING BEYOND YOUR MEANS

#37Consumer Comment

Wed, March 26, 2008

If you live within your means and stop expecting more than you can afford then you could have a fully loaded beand new car. Toyotas?? I don't give a hoot about those ugly over priced and over hyped vehicles that don't even come with decent wheel covers brand new. I had a Toyota Supra, second hand and GIVEN TO ME BY MY MOTHER. IT SUCKED and I will never own another one. Now I am far from being wealthy, but fortunately I don't have kids which basically drain your budget. I have always had new cars since the Yota and not anything that was considered over priced but definately within my budget. I have purchased brand new: Ford Escort 11,500, Hyundai Excel 8,500, Ford Focus 10,995 and for my next car which I will be purchasing in the next 6 months, a 2008 Chey Aveo, fully loaded, sun roof and all, 12,995. Now those are affordable under the budget cars that can be paid off in 4 years or less, cheap to maintain, cheap to fuel and so what if its not a Dodge Stratus, Toyota Celica, Honda Accord or some other over priced over hyped vehicle that someone may just stick a kinfe in your back for. So you need to take a GOOD LOOK AT Yourself and finances and tell yourself I need transportation, brand new and I don't need a top of the line vehicle. And if you want to retire me at 65, go ahead. At least unlike yourself I will probably have enough money to retire then and still cruise around in my cute litte budget vehicle that I don't have to pay over 199.00 a month for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
NO trivial comments will be accepted. Solid, productive criticism

#38Author of original report

Wed, March 26, 2008

That is a trivial comment and you are passing judgment based on social status. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a good paying job. A lot of us have family and other responsibilities. What gives the right to judge me by the vehicle I own, the money I make and where I live? You are expressing your prejudice based on financial status AND doing it online where everyone can see your ignorance and total lack of empathy for others.


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Some people can't afford to buy a NEW car

#39Author of original report

Wed, March 26, 2008

This car only has 68K on it Margaret, it may be over 10 years old but I have had Toyotas that were 15-20 years old that worked better than this POS. Some people can't afford to buy vehicles that are only 5 years old. Are you going to buy me one Margaret? Thanks for your suggestion but if I wanted a vehicle that was 5 years old I would have bought one! I can't afford it! I realize that this is the law in Europe that you can't have a car that is more than 5 years old. Should we retire you when you are 65 Margaret? Do you think you would still work well at that point? Some people still have a lot of life left in them...just like some cars. Unfortunately Dodges don't, Toyotas do.


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Some people can't afford to buy a NEW car

#40Author of original report

Wed, March 26, 2008

This car only has 68K on it Margaret, it may be over 10 years old but I have had Toyotas that were 15-20 years old that worked better than this POS. Some people can't afford to buy vehicles that are only 5 years old. Are you going to buy me one Margaret? Thanks for your suggestion but if I wanted a vehicle that was 5 years old I would have bought one! I can't afford it! I realize that this is the law in Europe that you can't have a car that is more than 5 years old. Should we retire you when you are 65 Margaret? Do you think you would still work well at that point? Some people still have a lot of life left in them...just like some cars. Unfortunately Dodges don't, Toyotas do.


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Some people can't afford to buy a NEW car

#41Author of original report

Wed, March 26, 2008

This car only has 68K on it Margaret, it may be over 10 years old but I have had Toyotas that were 15-20 years old that worked better than this POS. Some people can't afford to buy vehicles that are only 5 years old. Are you going to buy me one Margaret? Thanks for your suggestion but if I wanted a vehicle that was 5 years old I would have bought one! I can't afford it! I realize that this is the law in Europe that you can't have a car that is more than 5 years old. Should we retire you when you are 65 Margaret? Do you think you would still work well at that point? Some people still have a lot of life left in them...just like some cars. Unfortunately Dodges don't, Toyotas do.


Margaret

Houston,
Texas,
U.S.A.
10 + YEAR OLD VEHICLE

#42Consumer Comment

Tue, March 25, 2008

This car should be retired. Its over 10 years old. Never buy a car more than 5 years old.


Margaret

Houston,
Texas,
U.S.A.
10 + YEAR OLD VEHICLE

#43Consumer Comment

Tue, March 25, 2008

This car should be retired. Its over 10 years old. Never buy a car more than 5 years old.


Margaret

Houston,
Texas,
U.S.A.
10 + YEAR OLD VEHICLE

#44Consumer Comment

Tue, March 25, 2008

This car should be retired. Its over 10 years old. Never buy a car more than 5 years old.


Margaret

Houston,
Texas,
U.S.A.
10 + YEAR OLD VEHICLE

#45Consumer Comment

Tue, March 25, 2008

This car should be retired. Its over 10 years old. Never buy a car more than 5 years old.


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
Chrysler Sucks

#46Author of original report

Tue, March 25, 2008

At least I work for a Transmission broker..you think that would help huh? Transmission is FIXED, it is not the transmission, it is the computers...somewhere, no one can figure this beast out. You would think with the movie "Christine" with the Plymouth that I would have remembered that maybe some "electrical" problems would pop up but no!


Cory

San Antonio,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Me Too

#47Consumer Comment

Tue, March 25, 2008

I have an 1988 Dodge RamCharger with 130,000 miles and the transmission is giving me problems too. I called Dodge and they weren't willing to give me any help either. You would think they would stand behind their product, but no. I'll never buy another Dodge again. I paid $2000 for this dog 7 years ago and only got 50,000 miles on it. I have to deceide whether to sink another $1000 into it or just junk it. Pay the $1000 and drive it for another 5 or 6 years?


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
95 Dodge Stratus ES 68K Totally Undrivable, unreliable Limp mode prone vehicles

#48Author of original report

Tue, March 25, 2008

After $3000 in repairs a 95 Dodge Stratus with 68k will STILL drop into "limp mode" daily. Chrysler could "Care Less" Replaced water pump, timing belt, have had 2 trans solenoids replaced, TCM, transmission rebuilt. I am afraid to take it anywhere else or have anything else done to it. I am afraid to drive it. Every time I DO drive it, it goes into limp mode. When you are on a highway going 65mph it will drop into first gear "limp" and throw you towards the windshield and slow you down to 45-50 mph. Dangerous if someone is following closely! The following are complaints on 95 Dodge Stratus's (first one is mine) that I have found online. All seem to be similar in problem to mine, including the fact that no one can seem to fix the problem or even figure out what is causing it! Wake up Robert Nardelli!!!! You have many many unhappy customers because of these cars! I personally will never buy a dodge again and I will tell friends and acquaintances about my problem with this car and others problems and Chrysler's total unwillingness to accept any responsibility! I have had my car almost 1 YEAR and have barely put 5000 miles on it. I can't drive it. It is totally unreliable! The contact owns a 1995 dodge Stratus. While driving 65 mph, the vehicle shifted into first gear without warning, which caused the vehicle speed to decrease. There were several repairs performed on the vehicle to correct the failure; however, the failure continued to occur. The transmission was rebuilt and the solenoid was replaced on two occasions. The sensors and relays were replaced on numerous occasions; however, the failure continued to occur. The failure mileage was 63,000 miles and current mileage was 68,000. I purchased the car and the car would start to bounce down to first gear and now will not come out of first gear. I have tried to have it worked on but the transmition shop could not fix the problem either!!!* Car will kick out of gear while driving down the road or won't go past first gear when starting it. I've replaced about everything except the transmission and the engine Vehicle will jump out of gear while being driven Transmission not shifting properly Torque converter blew 3 times. While driving the transmission downshifts to limp mode causing a highly probable danger situation that may lead to serious injuries especially if traveling on the freeway. We have replaced the tcm at $166.00from a dealer and another dealer sucked approx.300.00 knowing that there is no way of fixing the defective transmission. Why are you still allowing the dealers to replace parts that they fully know won't fix the main problem? Why is there no recall on the defective transmissions? On the complaint side of your web page there are a lot of similar complaints! The dealer wants us to take the car back to them for diagnostics and I am sure they will recommend another problem solving idea to make us spend more money knowing it will not work. Purchased vehicle with clean car fax record in Feb. 06 with 75k miles. At 81k miles transmission started going into limp mode (slams into second gear regardless of vehicle speed). Took car to dealership for diagnostic. They stated the input and output speed sensors were failing according to the computer. I replaced them. A week later the transmission fully failed. Towed to a reputable transmission chain store. They fully rebuilt the mechanicals of transmission and replaced the speed sensors again. As I drove home the transmission returned to limp mode. Returned to shop. They test-drove it and second gear clutches burned up. They rebuilt it again and also replaced valve body and solenoid pack. I drove the car for a month before it again started limping. Took the car to another dealership for diagnosis. They blamed the shop and stated they couldn't do anything for me but upgrade the flash in the transmission computer. The computer diagnostics could not reveal why the computer was putting the car in limp. Returned car to previous transmission shop for yet another rebuild. Drove car 2 months before it again started limping. Returned car to trans shop, they rebuilt it again. Still couldn't find concrete cause, replaced valve body again, had me buy replacement transmission computer from dodge, this fixed it for another 2 months. Yesterday it again started going into limp. There is 200 miles remaining in the 12,000 mile rebuild warranty from the first rebuild so it will be in the shop for the 5th time in less than a year Auto transmission downshifts at freeway speeds, throwing driver towards windshield. Problem began 2003. Have many, many service visits. Lube shop flushed system. Dealer replaced tps switch, dealer replaced tcm, trans shop rebuilt transmission with new torque converter and new input and output switches (worked one year) then problem returned. Trans shop flushed system, trans shop replaced tps (again), trans shop recommended to replace tcm (again), but, dealer said no problem found. Another dealer says tps bad. When I said it was replaced 100 miles earlier, they said that it was either wiring short, or main computer failure, has no way to know what problem is. Also said that if I fix the "wiring" I would have to rebuild the transmission (again), and when I said it was rebuilt last year, dealer changed his story and said I did not have to rebuild transmission. Dealer recommends junking the car. Manufacturer is not helping at all. Not looking for free work, I already spent $3000. I just want the problem fixed. It is extremely dangerous. This is a known problem for dodge, but they won't fix it, and they won't admit to a problematic transmission in this 4 speed Since the consumer purchased the vehicle it would shift into low gear or neutral on its own while driving. The vehicle was taken to two separate dealers for repairs. The dealer performed a diagnostic test and that ultimately led to the replacement of a solenoid pack. This did not correct the problem. The dealer noted that transmission computer had to be flashed. Consumer took vehicle to a dodge dealer and no repairs were done. They did not offer an explanation as to why this happened. The gear still moved while in drive. This is still a problem Car has had transmission rebuilt three times. First time it was rebuilt by dealer at approximately 85000 miles because of "rough" shifting. Second time at 150000 miles at transmission re-builder because of it consistently going in to "limp" mode. After several return visits, they still could not fix the problem. I drove the car for 10000 miles being careful of conditions that i was in case it slipped in to "limp" mode. I eventually took it to a different shop to have it rechecked. After having all mechanical parts replaced, all sensors, and tcm module the car still goes in to "limp" mode almost on a daily basis I have a 1995 dodge Stratus when traveling about 45 mph my car automatically slips into neutral the vehicle jerks and slows down in speed I have to pull over to the side of the road and shut the car down and restart it, this problem happens intermittently, I took it a transmission shop and they could not find the problem they replaced the solenoid pack I still have the problem am filing this complaint with respect to a 1995 dodge Stratus. The dodge Stratus is equipped with a device which I assume is tied in with the car's electronics or computer. The purpose of this specific device is to monitor the operation of the car's transmission so that whenever the transmission is under stress or is not operating as designed or intended (or at least the the computer surmises that the transmission is not operating normally or up to standard), the computer whenever that occurs automatically downshifts the dodge Stratus to 2nd gear without any prior warning or notice whatsoever to the driver and the dodge remains in 2nd gear until such time as the dodge is brought to a complete stop and until the engine is completely turned off. If you then allow the dodge engine to remain off for 3 or 4 minutes and then turn the engine back on again, the car will perform normally again and without incident at speeds up to 40 or 50 or 60 miles per hour until such time as the computer, once again, succumbs to the urge to downshift to 2nd gear. At that point, the driver finds himself in 2nd gear and with no viable alternative but to pull off the road and turn off the engine once again. To comprehend what that predicament is like from the drivers point of view, one has only to envision yourself on the new jersey turnpike or the long island expressway in rush hour traffic with dozens and dozens of 18 wheeler trucks all going 55and 65 miles an hour when, out of the blue, the computer on the dodge Stratus decides to downshift to 20 miles an hour and the nearest 18 wheeler truck is only 10 feet behind you and doing 60 miles an hour. In that scenario, the possibilities for a horrible and catastrophic accident costing dozens of lives is apparent---all because the onboard computer on the dodge Stratus decided on its own to downshift to 2nd gear Transmission failed, 145,000 miles with no indication or check engine light. The transmission was running fine then failed and leaked a quart and a half of fluid from the rip in the pan Car will kick out of gear while driving down the road or won't go past first gear when starting it. I've replaced about everything except the transmission and the engine While driving at any speed transmission would not go past first gear. Vehicle was taken to the dealer, who rebuilt the engine. Currently, transmission was doing the exact same thing again. The transaxle often slips and fails to shift into drive. Eventually, the transmission had to be replaced While driving 60-65 mph transmission downshifted harshly to 15 mph, dealer determined that the power train sensor failed and replaced it but the problem continued, the dealer then determined tithe transmission experienced an internal problem, the transmission was disassembled, the dealer replaced a broken (od)hub, broken breather housing, front planetary carrier, all seal, gaskets. Filter and fluid Chrysler has been entirely unhelpful with this situation. You would think that they would see something is wrong after two failures.no safety defect listed While driving 60-65 and without warning transmission shifted to a low gear, up to 15-20 mph in middle of rush hour traffic When traveling about 65mph on highway transmission slipped into neutral an vehicle slowed down to 35mph. Then vehicle jerked and went into second gear. Dealership was aware of problem. Noted that transmission has been replaced last year 1. A/c past 3 tears has failed. Control mode failure. A/c repaired 2x in warrenty. 2. Abs sensor failed at 42000. 3.distributor failed at 90000 3. Transmission-front pump seal started leaking at 90000. 4. Spark plug ring seals(6) failed at 90000 transmission will downshift into a lower gear when traveling above 25 mph. Please provide any additional information/attachments The engine check light has come on intermittently since i bought this car. Most of the time the dealships have told me it was a false code. In dec. Of 99 I took it to a transmission place and they said their computer told them that the car had burned a shift clutch in the transmission and it would cost 1200 because they had to tear into the transmission. The tachometer also stays at zero most of the time, but every once in a while it will work While driving at highway speeds of 55 to 60 mph vehicle will automatically downshift on its own, reducing the speed very quickly. This has nearly resulted in a driver's whiplash. Dealer has been contacted This car downshifted while at the speed of 55 or more Transmission does not shift gears between 35 and 40 mph While driving at any speed the vehicle wasn't shifting gears properly Transmission failed at 50682 miles. Speed sensor failed at @ 52000 miles. Still having problems with downshifting with new transmission and vehicle sticking in first gear. Dealer unable to locate problem. They "think" it is the trans. Computer module. Chrysler unwilling to assist with repair cost of module When driving the vehicle, there were no prior indications, engine didn't go over 25mph and gears were hard to shift. When the hood was opened, the transmission had a hole in the top as if acid was poured onto it. Dealer contacted, no warranty, and they cannot duplicate the problem Transmission failed to operate at 46,000 miles of wear. Transmission is slipping/does not go into gear and lost reverse. Dealer/manufacturer notified Transmission is slipping/oil leaks from the vehicle and the car does not shift into gear. Dealer has not been able to locate the problem Transmission dropped into limp mode without cause, nearly throwing driver through windshield Own two dodge Stratus. One transmission just failed. The transmission shop did it was because of the transmission lines to the radiator had loosened up. The car had been involved in a minor accident. Now my other Stratus has developed a transmission leak. Same problem!! I have to believe there is a manufactures defect


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
95 Dodge Stratus ES 68K Totally Undrivable, unreliable Limp mode prone vehicles

#49Author of original report

Tue, March 25, 2008

After $3000 in repairs a 95 Dodge Stratus with 68k will STILL drop into "limp mode" daily. Chrysler could "Care Less" Replaced water pump, timing belt, have had 2 trans solenoids replaced, TCM, transmission rebuilt. I am afraid to take it anywhere else or have anything else done to it. I am afraid to drive it. Every time I DO drive it, it goes into limp mode. When you are on a highway going 65mph it will drop into first gear "limp" and throw you towards the windshield and slow you down to 45-50 mph. Dangerous if someone is following closely! The following are complaints on 95 Dodge Stratus's (first one is mine) that I have found online. All seem to be similar in problem to mine, including the fact that no one can seem to fix the problem or even figure out what is causing it! Wake up Robert Nardelli!!!! You have many many unhappy customers because of these cars! I personally will never buy a dodge again and I will tell friends and acquaintances about my problem with this car and others problems and Chrysler's total unwillingness to accept any responsibility! I have had my car almost 1 YEAR and have barely put 5000 miles on it. I can't drive it. It is totally unreliable! The contact owns a 1995 dodge Stratus. While driving 65 mph, the vehicle shifted into first gear without warning, which caused the vehicle speed to decrease. There were several repairs performed on the vehicle to correct the failure; however, the failure continued to occur. The transmission was rebuilt and the solenoid was replaced on two occasions. The sensors and relays were replaced on numerous occasions; however, the failure continued to occur. The failure mileage was 63,000 miles and current mileage was 68,000. I purchased the car and the car would start to bounce down to first gear and now will not come out of first gear. I have tried to have it worked on but the transmition shop could not fix the problem either!!!* Car will kick out of gear while driving down the road or won't go past first gear when starting it. I've replaced about everything except the transmission and the engine Vehicle will jump out of gear while being driven Transmission not shifting properly Torque converter blew 3 times. While driving the transmission downshifts to limp mode causing a highly probable danger situation that may lead to serious injuries especially if traveling on the freeway. We have replaced the tcm at $166.00from a dealer and another dealer sucked approx.300.00 knowing that there is no way of fixing the defective transmission. Why are you still allowing the dealers to replace parts that they fully know won't fix the main problem? Why is there no recall on the defective transmissions? On the complaint side of your web page there are a lot of similar complaints! The dealer wants us to take the car back to them for diagnostics and I am sure they will recommend another problem solving idea to make us spend more money knowing it will not work. Purchased vehicle with clean car fax record in Feb. 06 with 75k miles. At 81k miles transmission started going into limp mode (slams into second gear regardless of vehicle speed). Took car to dealership for diagnostic. They stated the input and output speed sensors were failing according to the computer. I replaced them. A week later the transmission fully failed. Towed to a reputable transmission chain store. They fully rebuilt the mechanicals of transmission and replaced the speed sensors again. As I drove home the transmission returned to limp mode. Returned to shop. They test-drove it and second gear clutches burned up. They rebuilt it again and also replaced valve body and solenoid pack. I drove the car for a month before it again started limping. Took the car to another dealership for diagnosis. They blamed the shop and stated they couldn't do anything for me but upgrade the flash in the transmission computer. The computer diagnostics could not reveal why the computer was putting the car in limp. Returned car to previous transmission shop for yet another rebuild. Drove car 2 months before it again started limping. Returned car to trans shop, they rebuilt it again. Still couldn't find concrete cause, replaced valve body again, had me buy replacement transmission computer from dodge, this fixed it for another 2 months. Yesterday it again started going into limp. There is 200 miles remaining in the 12,000 mile rebuild warranty from the first rebuild so it will be in the shop for the 5th time in less than a year Auto transmission downshifts at freeway speeds, throwing driver towards windshield. Problem began 2003. Have many, many service visits. Lube shop flushed system. Dealer replaced tps switch, dealer replaced tcm, trans shop rebuilt transmission with new torque converter and new input and output switches (worked one year) then problem returned. Trans shop flushed system, trans shop replaced tps (again), trans shop recommended to replace tcm (again), but, dealer said no problem found. Another dealer says tps bad. When I said it was replaced 100 miles earlier, they said that it was either wiring short, or main computer failure, has no way to know what problem is. Also said that if I fix the "wiring" I would have to rebuild the transmission (again), and when I said it was rebuilt last year, dealer changed his story and said I did not have to rebuild transmission. Dealer recommends junking the car. Manufacturer is not helping at all. Not looking for free work, I already spent $3000. I just want the problem fixed. It is extremely dangerous. This is a known problem for dodge, but they won't fix it, and they won't admit to a problematic transmission in this 4 speed Since the consumer purchased the vehicle it would shift into low gear or neutral on its own while driving. The vehicle was taken to two separate dealers for repairs. The dealer performed a diagnostic test and that ultimately led to the replacement of a solenoid pack. This did not correct the problem. The dealer noted that transmission computer had to be flashed. Consumer took vehicle to a dodge dealer and no repairs were done. They did not offer an explanation as to why this happened. The gear still moved while in drive. This is still a problem Car has had transmission rebuilt three times. First time it was rebuilt by dealer at approximately 85000 miles because of "rough" shifting. Second time at 150000 miles at transmission re-builder because of it consistently going in to "limp" mode. After several return visits, they still could not fix the problem. I drove the car for 10000 miles being careful of conditions that i was in case it slipped in to "limp" mode. I eventually took it to a different shop to have it rechecked. After having all mechanical parts replaced, all sensors, and tcm module the car still goes in to "limp" mode almost on a daily basis I have a 1995 dodge Stratus when traveling about 45 mph my car automatically slips into neutral the vehicle jerks and slows down in speed I have to pull over to the side of the road and shut the car down and restart it, this problem happens intermittently, I took it a transmission shop and they could not find the problem they replaced the solenoid pack I still have the problem am filing this complaint with respect to a 1995 dodge Stratus. The dodge Stratus is equipped with a device which I assume is tied in with the car's electronics or computer. The purpose of this specific device is to monitor the operation of the car's transmission so that whenever the transmission is under stress or is not operating as designed or intended (or at least the the computer surmises that the transmission is not operating normally or up to standard), the computer whenever that occurs automatically downshifts the dodge Stratus to 2nd gear without any prior warning or notice whatsoever to the driver and the dodge remains in 2nd gear until such time as the dodge is brought to a complete stop and until the engine is completely turned off. If you then allow the dodge engine to remain off for 3 or 4 minutes and then turn the engine back on again, the car will perform normally again and without incident at speeds up to 40 or 50 or 60 miles per hour until such time as the computer, once again, succumbs to the urge to downshift to 2nd gear. At that point, the driver finds himself in 2nd gear and with no viable alternative but to pull off the road and turn off the engine once again. To comprehend what that predicament is like from the drivers point of view, one has only to envision yourself on the new jersey turnpike or the long island expressway in rush hour traffic with dozens and dozens of 18 wheeler trucks all going 55and 65 miles an hour when, out of the blue, the computer on the dodge Stratus decides to downshift to 20 miles an hour and the nearest 18 wheeler truck is only 10 feet behind you and doing 60 miles an hour. In that scenario, the possibilities for a horrible and catastrophic accident costing dozens of lives is apparent---all because the onboard computer on the dodge Stratus decided on its own to downshift to 2nd gear Transmission failed, 145,000 miles with no indication or check engine light. The transmission was running fine then failed and leaked a quart and a half of fluid from the rip in the pan Car will kick out of gear while driving down the road or won't go past first gear when starting it. I've replaced about everything except the transmission and the engine While driving at any speed transmission would not go past first gear. Vehicle was taken to the dealer, who rebuilt the engine. Currently, transmission was doing the exact same thing again. The transaxle often slips and fails to shift into drive. Eventually, the transmission had to be replaced While driving 60-65 mph transmission downshifted harshly to 15 mph, dealer determined that the power train sensor failed and replaced it but the problem continued, the dealer then determined tithe transmission experienced an internal problem, the transmission was disassembled, the dealer replaced a broken (od)hub, broken breather housing, front planetary carrier, all seal, gaskets. Filter and fluid Chrysler has been entirely unhelpful with this situation. You would think that they would see something is wrong after two failures.no safety defect listed While driving 60-65 and without warning transmission shifted to a low gear, up to 15-20 mph in middle of rush hour traffic When traveling about 65mph on highway transmission slipped into neutral an vehicle slowed down to 35mph. Then vehicle jerked and went into second gear. Dealership was aware of problem. Noted that transmission has been replaced last year 1. A/c past 3 tears has failed. Control mode failure. A/c repaired 2x in warrenty. 2. Abs sensor failed at 42000. 3.distributor failed at 90000 3. Transmission-front pump seal started leaking at 90000. 4. Spark plug ring seals(6) failed at 90000 transmission will downshift into a lower gear when traveling above 25 mph. Please provide any additional information/attachments The engine check light has come on intermittently since i bought this car. Most of the time the dealships have told me it was a false code. In dec. Of 99 I took it to a transmission place and they said their computer told them that the car had burned a shift clutch in the transmission and it would cost 1200 because they had to tear into the transmission. The tachometer also stays at zero most of the time, but every once in a while it will work While driving at highway speeds of 55 to 60 mph vehicle will automatically downshift on its own, reducing the speed very quickly. This has nearly resulted in a driver's whiplash. Dealer has been contacted This car downshifted while at the speed of 55 or more Transmission does not shift gears between 35 and 40 mph While driving at any speed the vehicle wasn't shifting gears properly Transmission failed at 50682 miles. Speed sensor failed at @ 52000 miles. Still having problems with downshifting with new transmission and vehicle sticking in first gear. Dealer unable to locate problem. They "think" it is the trans. Computer module. Chrysler unwilling to assist with repair cost of module When driving the vehicle, there were no prior indications, engine didn't go over 25mph and gears were hard to shift. When the hood was opened, the transmission had a hole in the top as if acid was poured onto it. Dealer contacted, no warranty, and they cannot duplicate the problem Transmission failed to operate at 46,000 miles of wear. Transmission is slipping/does not go into gear and lost reverse. Dealer/manufacturer notified Transmission is slipping/oil leaks from the vehicle and the car does not shift into gear. Dealer has not been able to locate the problem Transmission dropped into limp mode without cause, nearly throwing driver through windshield Own two dodge Stratus. One transmission just failed. The transmission shop did it was because of the transmission lines to the radiator had loosened up. The car had been involved in a minor accident. Now my other Stratus has developed a transmission leak. Same problem!! I have to believe there is a manufactures defect


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
95 Dodge Stratus ES 68K Totally Undrivable, unreliable Limp mode prone vehicles

#50Author of original report

Tue, March 25, 2008

After $3000 in repairs a 95 Dodge Stratus with 68k will STILL drop into "limp mode" daily. Chrysler could "Care Less" Replaced water pump, timing belt, have had 2 trans solenoids replaced, TCM, transmission rebuilt. I am afraid to take it anywhere else or have anything else done to it. I am afraid to drive it. Every time I DO drive it, it goes into limp mode. When you are on a highway going 65mph it will drop into first gear "limp" and throw you towards the windshield and slow you down to 45-50 mph. Dangerous if someone is following closely! The following are complaints on 95 Dodge Stratus's (first one is mine) that I have found online. All seem to be similar in problem to mine, including the fact that no one can seem to fix the problem or even figure out what is causing it! Wake up Robert Nardelli!!!! You have many many unhappy customers because of these cars! I personally will never buy a dodge again and I will tell friends and acquaintances about my problem with this car and others problems and Chrysler's total unwillingness to accept any responsibility! I have had my car almost 1 YEAR and have barely put 5000 miles on it. I can't drive it. It is totally unreliable! The contact owns a 1995 dodge Stratus. While driving 65 mph, the vehicle shifted into first gear without warning, which caused the vehicle speed to decrease. There were several repairs performed on the vehicle to correct the failure; however, the failure continued to occur. The transmission was rebuilt and the solenoid was replaced on two occasions. The sensors and relays were replaced on numerous occasions; however, the failure continued to occur. The failure mileage was 63,000 miles and current mileage was 68,000. I purchased the car and the car would start to bounce down to first gear and now will not come out of first gear. I have tried to have it worked on but the transmition shop could not fix the problem either!!!* Car will kick out of gear while driving down the road or won't go past first gear when starting it. I've replaced about everything except the transmission and the engine Vehicle will jump out of gear while being driven Transmission not shifting properly Torque converter blew 3 times. While driving the transmission downshifts to limp mode causing a highly probable danger situation that may lead to serious injuries especially if traveling on the freeway. We have replaced the tcm at $166.00from a dealer and another dealer sucked approx.300.00 knowing that there is no way of fixing the defective transmission. Why are you still allowing the dealers to replace parts that they fully know won't fix the main problem? Why is there no recall on the defective transmissions? On the complaint side of your web page there are a lot of similar complaints! The dealer wants us to take the car back to them for diagnostics and I am sure they will recommend another problem solving idea to make us spend more money knowing it will not work. Purchased vehicle with clean car fax record in Feb. 06 with 75k miles. At 81k miles transmission started going into limp mode (slams into second gear regardless of vehicle speed). Took car to dealership for diagnostic. They stated the input and output speed sensors were failing according to the computer. I replaced them. A week later the transmission fully failed. Towed to a reputable transmission chain store. They fully rebuilt the mechanicals of transmission and replaced the speed sensors again. As I drove home the transmission returned to limp mode. Returned to shop. They test-drove it and second gear clutches burned up. They rebuilt it again and also replaced valve body and solenoid pack. I drove the car for a month before it again started limping. Took the car to another dealership for diagnosis. They blamed the shop and stated they couldn't do anything for me but upgrade the flash in the transmission computer. The computer diagnostics could not reveal why the computer was putting the car in limp. Returned car to previous transmission shop for yet another rebuild. Drove car 2 months before it again started limping. Returned car to trans shop, they rebuilt it again. Still couldn't find concrete cause, replaced valve body again, had me buy replacement transmission computer from dodge, this fixed it for another 2 months. Yesterday it again started going into limp. There is 200 miles remaining in the 12,000 mile rebuild warranty from the first rebuild so it will be in the shop for the 5th time in less than a year Auto transmission downshifts at freeway speeds, throwing driver towards windshield. Problem began 2003. Have many, many service visits. Lube shop flushed system. Dealer replaced tps switch, dealer replaced tcm, trans shop rebuilt transmission with new torque converter and new input and output switches (worked one year) then problem returned. Trans shop flushed system, trans shop replaced tps (again), trans shop recommended to replace tcm (again), but, dealer said no problem found. Another dealer says tps bad. When I said it was replaced 100 miles earlier, they said that it was either wiring short, or main computer failure, has no way to know what problem is. Also said that if I fix the "wiring" I would have to rebuild the transmission (again), and when I said it was rebuilt last year, dealer changed his story and said I did not have to rebuild transmission. Dealer recommends junking the car. Manufacturer is not helping at all. Not looking for free work, I already spent $3000. I just want the problem fixed. It is extremely dangerous. This is a known problem for dodge, but they won't fix it, and they won't admit to a problematic transmission in this 4 speed Since the consumer purchased the vehicle it would shift into low gear or neutral on its own while driving. The vehicle was taken to two separate dealers for repairs. The dealer performed a diagnostic test and that ultimately led to the replacement of a solenoid pack. This did not correct the problem. The dealer noted that transmission computer had to be flashed. Consumer took vehicle to a dodge dealer and no repairs were done. They did not offer an explanation as to why this happened. The gear still moved while in drive. This is still a problem Car has had transmission rebuilt three times. First time it was rebuilt by dealer at approximately 85000 miles because of "rough" shifting. Second time at 150000 miles at transmission re-builder because of it consistently going in to "limp" mode. After several return visits, they still could not fix the problem. I drove the car for 10000 miles being careful of conditions that i was in case it slipped in to "limp" mode. I eventually took it to a different shop to have it rechecked. After having all mechanical parts replaced, all sensors, and tcm module the car still goes in to "limp" mode almost on a daily basis I have a 1995 dodge Stratus when traveling about 45 mph my car automatically slips into neutral the vehicle jerks and slows down in speed I have to pull over to the side of the road and shut the car down and restart it, this problem happens intermittently, I took it a transmission shop and they could not find the problem they replaced the solenoid pack I still have the problem am filing this complaint with respect to a 1995 dodge Stratus. The dodge Stratus is equipped with a device which I assume is tied in with the car's electronics or computer. The purpose of this specific device is to monitor the operation of the car's transmission so that whenever the transmission is under stress or is not operating as designed or intended (or at least the the computer surmises that the transmission is not operating normally or up to standard), the computer whenever that occurs automatically downshifts the dodge Stratus to 2nd gear without any prior warning or notice whatsoever to the driver and the dodge remains in 2nd gear until such time as the dodge is brought to a complete stop and until the engine is completely turned off. If you then allow the dodge engine to remain off for 3 or 4 minutes and then turn the engine back on again, the car will perform normally again and without incident at speeds up to 40 or 50 or 60 miles per hour until such time as the computer, once again, succumbs to the urge to downshift to 2nd gear. At that point, the driver finds himself in 2nd gear and with no viable alternative but to pull off the road and turn off the engine once again. To comprehend what that predicament is like from the drivers point of view, one has only to envision yourself on the new jersey turnpike or the long island expressway in rush hour traffic with dozens and dozens of 18 wheeler trucks all going 55and 65 miles an hour when, out of the blue, the computer on the dodge Stratus decides to downshift to 20 miles an hour and the nearest 18 wheeler truck is only 10 feet behind you and doing 60 miles an hour. In that scenario, the possibilities for a horrible and catastrophic accident costing dozens of lives is apparent---all because the onboard computer on the dodge Stratus decided on its own to downshift to 2nd gear Transmission failed, 145,000 miles with no indication or check engine light. The transmission was running fine then failed and leaked a quart and a half of fluid from the rip in the pan Car will kick out of gear while driving down the road or won't go past first gear when starting it. I've replaced about everything except the transmission and the engine While driving at any speed transmission would not go past first gear. Vehicle was taken to the dealer, who rebuilt the engine. Currently, transmission was doing the exact same thing again. The transaxle often slips and fails to shift into drive. Eventually, the transmission had to be replaced While driving 60-65 mph transmission downshifted harshly to 15 mph, dealer determined that the power train sensor failed and replaced it but the problem continued, the dealer then determined tithe transmission experienced an internal problem, the transmission was disassembled, the dealer replaced a broken (od)hub, broken breather housing, front planetary carrier, all seal, gaskets. Filter and fluid Chrysler has been entirely unhelpful with this situation. You would think that they would see something is wrong after two failures.no safety defect listed While driving 60-65 and without warning transmission shifted to a low gear, up to 15-20 mph in middle of rush hour traffic When traveling about 65mph on highway transmission slipped into neutral an vehicle slowed down to 35mph. Then vehicle jerked and went into second gear. Dealership was aware of problem. Noted that transmission has been replaced last year 1. A/c past 3 tears has failed. Control mode failure. A/c repaired 2x in warrenty. 2. Abs sensor failed at 42000. 3.distributor failed at 90000 3. Transmission-front pump seal started leaking at 90000. 4. Spark plug ring seals(6) failed at 90000 transmission will downshift into a lower gear when traveling above 25 mph. Please provide any additional information/attachments The engine check light has come on intermittently since i bought this car. Most of the time the dealships have told me it was a false code. In dec. Of 99 I took it to a transmission place and they said their computer told them that the car had burned a shift clutch in the transmission and it would cost 1200 because they had to tear into the transmission. The tachometer also stays at zero most of the time, but every once in a while it will work While driving at highway speeds of 55 to 60 mph vehicle will automatically downshift on its own, reducing the speed very quickly. This has nearly resulted in a driver's whiplash. Dealer has been contacted This car downshifted while at the speed of 55 or more Transmission does not shift gears between 35 and 40 mph While driving at any speed the vehicle wasn't shifting gears properly Transmission failed at 50682 miles. Speed sensor failed at @ 52000 miles. Still having problems with downshifting with new transmission and vehicle sticking in first gear. Dealer unable to locate problem. They "think" it is the trans. Computer module. Chrysler unwilling to assist with repair cost of module When driving the vehicle, there were no prior indications, engine didn't go over 25mph and gears were hard to shift. When the hood was opened, the transmission had a hole in the top as if acid was poured onto it. Dealer contacted, no warranty, and they cannot duplicate the problem Transmission failed to operate at 46,000 miles of wear. Transmission is slipping/does not go into gear and lost reverse. Dealer/manufacturer notified Transmission is slipping/oil leaks from the vehicle and the car does not shift into gear. Dealer has not been able to locate the problem Transmission dropped into limp mode without cause, nearly throwing driver through windshield Own two dodge Stratus. One transmission just failed. The transmission shop did it was because of the transmission lines to the radiator had loosened up. The car had been involved in a minor accident. Now my other Stratus has developed a transmission leak. Same problem!! I have to believe there is a manufactures defect


Lizz11

Frederick,
Maryland,
U.S.A.
95 Dodge Stratus ES 68K Totally Undrivable, unreliable Limp mode prone vehicles

#51Author of original report

Tue, March 25, 2008

After $3000 in repairs a 95 Dodge Stratus with 68k will STILL drop into "limp mode" daily. Chrysler could "Care Less" Replaced water pump, timing belt, have had 2 trans solenoids replaced, TCM, transmission rebuilt. I am afraid to take it anywhere else or have anything else done to it. I am afraid to drive it. Every time I DO drive it, it goes into limp mode. When you are on a highway going 65mph it will drop into first gear "limp" and throw you towards the windshield and slow you down to 45-50 mph. Dangerous if someone is following closely! The following are complaints on 95 Dodge Stratus's (first one is mine) that I have found online. All seem to be similar in problem to mine, including the fact that no one can seem to fix the problem or even figure out what is causing it! Wake up Robert Nardelli!!!! You have many many unhappy customers because of these cars! I personally will never buy a dodge again and I will tell friends and acquaintances about my problem with this car and others problems and Chrysler's total unwillingness to accept any responsibility! I have had my car almost 1 YEAR and have barely put 5000 miles on it. I can't drive it. It is totally unreliable! The contact owns a 1995 dodge Stratus. While driving 65 mph, the vehicle shifted into first gear without warning, which caused the vehicle speed to decrease. There were several repairs performed on the vehicle to correct the failure; however, the failure continued to occur. The transmission was rebuilt and the solenoid was replaced on two occasions. The sensors and relays were replaced on numerous occasions; however, the failure continued to occur. The failure mileage was 63,000 miles and current mileage was 68,000. I purchased the car and the car would start to bounce down to first gear and now will not come out of first gear. I have tried to have it worked on but the transmition shop could not fix the problem either!!!* Car will kick out of gear while driving down the road or won't go past first gear when starting it. I've replaced about everything except the transmission and the engine Vehicle will jump out of gear while being driven Transmission not shifting properly Torque converter blew 3 times. While driving the transmission downshifts to limp mode causing a highly probable danger situation that may lead to serious injuries especially if traveling on the freeway. We have replaced the tcm at $166.00from a dealer and another dealer sucked approx.300.00 knowing that there is no way of fixing the defective transmission. Why are you still allowing the dealers to replace parts that they fully know won't fix the main problem? Why is there no recall on the defective transmissions? On the complaint side of your web page there are a lot of similar complaints! The dealer wants us to take the car back to them for diagnostics and I am sure they will recommend another problem solving idea to make us spend more money knowing it will not work. Purchased vehicle with clean car fax record in Feb. 06 with 75k miles. At 81k miles transmission started going into limp mode (slams into second gear regardless of vehicle speed). Took car to dealership for diagnostic. They stated the input and output speed sensors were failing according to the computer. I replaced them. A week later the transmission fully failed. Towed to a reputable transmission chain store. They fully rebuilt the mechanicals of transmission and replaced the speed sensors again. As I drove home the transmission returned to limp mode. Returned to shop. They test-drove it and second gear clutches burned up. They rebuilt it again and also replaced valve body and solenoid pack. I drove the car for a month before it again started limping. Took the car to another dealership for diagnosis. They blamed the shop and stated they couldn't do anything for me but upgrade the flash in the transmission computer. The computer diagnostics could not reveal why the computer was putting the car in limp. Returned car to previous transmission shop for yet another rebuild. Drove car 2 months before it again started limping. Returned car to trans shop, they rebuilt it again. Still couldn't find concrete cause, replaced valve body again, had me buy replacement transmission computer from dodge, this fixed it for another 2 months. Yesterday it again started going into limp. There is 200 miles remaining in the 12,000 mile rebuild warranty from the first rebuild so it will be in the shop for the 5th time in less than a year Auto transmission downshifts at freeway speeds, throwing driver towards windshield. Problem began 2003. Have many, many service visits. Lube shop flushed system. Dealer replaced tps switch, dealer replaced tcm, trans shop rebuilt transmission with new torque converter and new input and output switches (worked one year) then problem returned. Trans shop flushed system, trans shop replaced tps (again), trans shop recommended to replace tcm (again), but, dealer said no problem found. Another dealer says tps bad. When I said it was replaced 100 miles earlier, they said that it was either wiring short, or main computer failure, has no way to know what problem is. Also said that if I fix the "wiring" I would have to rebuild the transmission (again), and when I said it was rebuilt last year, dealer changed his story and said I did not have to rebuild transmission. Dealer recommends junking the car. Manufacturer is not helping at all. Not looking for free work, I already spent $3000. I just want the problem fixed. It is extremely dangerous. This is a known problem for dodge, but they won't fix it, and they won't admit to a problematic transmission in this 4 speed Since the consumer purchased the vehicle it would shift into low gear or neutral on its own while driving. The vehicle was taken to two separate dealers for repairs. The dealer performed a diagnostic test and that ultimately led to the replacement of a solenoid pack. This did not correct the problem. The dealer noted that transmission computer had to be flashed. Consumer took vehicle to a dodge dealer and no repairs were done. They did not offer an explanation as to why this happened. The gear still moved while in drive. This is still a problem Car has had transmission rebuilt three times. First time it was rebuilt by dealer at approximately 85000 miles because of "rough" shifting. Second time at 150000 miles at transmission re-builder because of it consistently going in to "limp" mode. After several return visits, they still could not fix the problem. I drove the car for 10000 miles being careful of conditions that i was in case it slipped in to "limp" mode. I eventually took it to a different shop to have it rechecked. After having all mechanical parts replaced, all sensors, and tcm module the car still goes in to "limp" mode almost on a daily basis I have a 1995 dodge Stratus when traveling about 45 mph my car automatically slips into neutral the vehicle jerks and slows down in speed I have to pull over to the side of the road and shut the car down and restart it, this problem happens intermittently, I took it a transmission shop and they could not find the problem they replaced the solenoid pack I still have the problem am filing this complaint with respect to a 1995 dodge Stratus. The dodge Stratus is equipped with a device which I assume is tied in with the car's electronics or computer. The purpose of this specific device is to monitor the operation of the car's transmission so that whenever the transmission is under stress or is not operating as designed or intended (or at least the the computer surmises that the transmission is not operating normally or up to standard), the computer whenever that occurs automatically downshifts the dodge Stratus to 2nd gear without any prior warning or notice whatsoever to the driver and the dodge remains in 2nd gear until such time as the dodge is brought to a complete stop and until the engine is completely turned off. If you then allow the dodge engine to remain off for 3 or 4 minutes and then turn the engine back on again, the car will perform normally again and without incident at speeds up to 40 or 50 or 60 miles per hour until such time as the computer, once again, succumbs to the urge to downshift to 2nd gear. At that point, the driver finds himself in 2nd gear and with no viable alternative but to pull off the road and turn off the engine once again. To comprehend what that predicament is like from the drivers point of view, one has only to envision yourself on the new jersey turnpike or the long island expressway in rush hour traffic with dozens and dozens of 18 wheeler trucks all going 55and 65 miles an hour when, out of the blue, the computer on the dodge Stratus decides to downshift to 20 miles an hour and the nearest 18 wheeler truck is only 10 feet behind you and doing 60 miles an hour. In that scenario, the possibilities for a horrible and catastrophic accident costing dozens of lives is apparent---all because the onboard computer on the dodge Stratus decided on its own to downshift to 2nd gear Transmission failed, 145,000 miles with no indication or check engine light. The transmission was running fine then failed and leaked a quart and a half of fluid from the rip in the pan Car will kick out of gear while driving down the road or won't go past first gear when starting it. I've replaced about everything except the transmission and the engine While driving at any speed transmission would not go past first gear. Vehicle was taken to the dealer, who rebuilt the engine. Currently, transmission was doing the exact same thing again. The transaxle often slips and fails to shift into drive. Eventually, the transmission had to be replaced While driving 60-65 mph transmission downshifted harshly to 15 mph, dealer determined that the power train sensor failed and replaced it but the problem continued, the dealer then determined tithe transmission experienced an internal problem, the transmission was disassembled, the dealer replaced a broken (od)hub, broken breather housing, front planetary carrier, all seal, gaskets. Filter and fluid Chrysler has been entirely unhelpful with this situation. You would think that they would see something is wrong after two failures.no safety defect listed While driving 60-65 and without warning transmission shifted to a low gear, up to 15-20 mph in middle of rush hour traffic When traveling about 65mph on highway transmission slipped into neutral an vehicle slowed down to 35mph. Then vehicle jerked and went into second gear. Dealership was aware of problem. Noted that transmission has been replaced last year 1. A/c past 3 tears has failed. Control mode failure. A/c repaired 2x in warrenty. 2. Abs sensor failed at 42000. 3.distributor failed at 90000 3. Transmission-front pump seal started leaking at 90000. 4. Spark plug ring seals(6) failed at 90000 transmission will downshift into a lower gear when traveling above 25 mph. Please provide any additional information/attachments The engine check light has come on intermittently since i bought this car. Most of the time the dealships have told me it was a false code. In dec. Of 99 I took it to a transmission place and they said their computer told them that the car had burned a shift clutch in the transmission and it would cost 1200 because they had to tear into the transmission. The tachometer also stays at zero most of the time, but every once in a while it will work While driving at highway speeds of 55 to 60 mph vehicle will automatically downshift on its own, reducing the speed very quickly. This has nearly resulted in a driver's whiplash. Dealer has been contacted This car downshifted while at the speed of 55 or more Transmission does not shift gears between 35 and 40 mph While driving at any speed the vehicle wasn't shifting gears properly Transmission failed at 50682 miles. Speed sensor failed at @ 52000 miles. Still having problems with downshifting with new transmission and vehicle sticking in first gear. Dealer unable to locate problem. They "think" it is the trans. Computer module. Chrysler unwilling to assist with repair cost of module When driving the vehicle, there were no prior indications, engine didn't go over 25mph and gears were hard to shift. When the hood was opened, the transmission had a hole in the top as if acid was poured onto it. Dealer contacted, no warranty, and they cannot duplicate the problem Transmission failed to operate at 46,000 miles of wear. Transmission is slipping/does not go into gear and lost reverse. Dealer/manufacturer notified Transmission is slipping/oil leaks from the vehicle and the car does not shift into gear. Dealer has not been able to locate the problem Transmission dropped into limp mode without cause, nearly throwing driver through windshield Own two dodge Stratus. One transmission just failed. The transmission shop did it was because of the transmission lines to the radiator had loosened up. The car had been involved in a minor accident. Now my other Stratus has developed a transmission leak. Same problem!! I have to believe there is a manufactures defect

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