Christopher
Winston-salem,#2Consumer Comment
Thu, April 20, 2006
I am not hiding anything at all. I just dont feel that my race, or Carlos's needs to be identified. If you go back and read my prior posts you will, at least be able to see why I feel this way. And if there was no racism in Carlos's actions just deplorable customer service, then I will apologize for my misunderstanding of Carlos's actions.
M
Winston Salem,#3UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, April 03, 2006
To my knowledge, Cricket does NOT hire racists. In fact, people of all races work together within the same store. How could a bunch of racists work together and much less run a store properly? I've heard of racism on the job, but if Cricket was really racist, it would only hire a certain race of people. I think Carlos was lacking some good customer service skills at the time. But that doesn't mean he was racist. I agree with Nicole. It sounds like you're hiding something. I've been in that store before, and I was actually going to work at that store you went to in Winston Salem because I used to work in the customer service call center before I moved to NC. I know most of the employees. They're NOT racists. Racism is a VERY STRONG word. You MUST back that claim up with some DETAILED evidence of it.
Nicole
Sitka,#4Consumer Suggestion
Mon, April 03, 2006
Were the other customers the same race as Carlos, or the same race as you? Please read further for an explanation of this question. Same race as Carlos: if everyone BUT you was Hispanic (yes, I am guessing but his name IS Carlos and that is a hispanic name.) Then I could see you protraying his actions as racist, they probably were. Different race than Carlos: if everyone in the room (other than Carlos) was the same race as YOU it is mighty hard to say he was racist towards you. That would be like me (I'm Italian btw) in a room full of Italians and one German. Now the German speaks to everyone politely except me. The German is rude to me, treats me with disrespect. Is that racism? No. In order for it to be "racist" the action has to come out of a hatred for that particular race. If the German is nice to all the other Italians, they obviously do not hate the Italian ethnicity. They just didn't care for me. I am more than willing to read your response and try to understand where this "racist" label comes from, but you have to provide the facts. By not providing them, it seems like you are trying to hide something. So, please, let me know. And if you are right, trust me Cricket WILL hear from me about their policy of hiring racists.
Nick
Hollywood,#5Consumer Suggestion
Sun, April 02, 2006
Christopher said: I am a different race than Carlos. Uhm, no kidding. Why would one person accuse another person of the same race of racism? Never mind, if he didn't say anything racist, and helped people of HIS OWN COLOR first, and you want to paint "racist" with a broad brush over that, well, I find that over-sensitive. You win, I'm done arguing that. Christopher said: I have the right as a customer to be treated with RESPECT AND DIGNITY. No, it's the other way around, Christopher. You have the RIGHT as a customer to choose who gets your consumer dollar. They EARN your business with DIGNITY AND RESPECT in hopes that you'll come back and continue doing business with them. If you're really that offended, get cell service with someone else. Otherwise, you're just funding that which offends you, which is silly. We can definately agree there. If enough people feel like you, Cricket will lose money. I urge EVERYONE to wisely spend their dollar on that which most appeals and least offends them, including you Christopher. If they're not giving you what you paid for, it's a breach of contract. You have a right to seek compensation or the right to get out of your contract and take your dollar elsewhere. (State laws vary, but check into it).
Christopher
winston-salem,#6Author of original report
Thu, March 30, 2006
I am a different race than Carlos. I was not hostile UNTIL I WAS IGNORED AND TREATED POORLY. I have the right as a customer to be treated with RESPECT AND DIGNITY.
Nick
Hollywood,#7Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 29, 2006
Christopher said: (I dont feel it neccessary to say my color or anyone elses because I am not a biggot) all the other customers were of like color, I should have been next in line according to their costomer service procedures. instead I had to wait until he was finished with everyone else. Well, if everyone else was of like color, then he didn't single you out for racism. He probably singled you out to help last because he could sense your hostility and your impatient demeanor. Retail people sometimes do that because they figure if you're going to be loud, demanding and insulting, or blow up on them, they want as few people in the store as possible to avoid mass-embarassment. 10 years in customer service should have taught you that. "Racist" is a very charged word, and it means something very serious, and I was willing to boycott Cricket for that kind of offense, even if you WERE irate towards the guy. There is NO excuse for racism in the consumer market. However, there's a universe of difference between "racist" and "not following customer procedures". It's disgusting when people cry racism without merit. Especially against a company as a whole, as noted in your "headline" when they clearly are NOT. It makes the legitimate racism issues trivial. I'll just assume, since you're not addressing me, that you put that in your headline to garner attention and sympathy to your "poor customer service" issue. Good luck with your phone problem.
Christopher
winston-salem,#8Author of original report
Mon, March 27, 2006
Nicole asked "HOW was Carlos racist? What did he do specifically that makes him racist? (mind you, it cannot simply be that he is a different race than you - although I would be interested in the details on that too - he had to DO something, call you something, imply something ect)" He showed his racism by his actions. I was in a the store, I took the "number" (wall sign that displayed the number of current customer being served) the sign read "25" the number in my hand was "27" I waited patiently for my turn. (there was a young lady behind the counter helping #25 and another more mature lady sitting behind the counter (as far as I could tell she was on the phone) Carlos came out into the store asking what the other customers needed. I was sitting in the front row, right next to #26 he asled her what she needed, directed her to the lady on the phone, and walked past me. helped everyone else in the store (I dont feel it neccessary to say my color or anyone elses because I am not a biggot) all the other customers were of like color, I should have been next in line according to their costomer service procedures. instead I had to wait until he was finished with everyone else. And then he only stopped and talked to me because I walked over to him and asked for his help. He seemed inattentive and uninterested in solving my problems with my phone, several times he snatched my phone from me or carelessly handed it back with a shrug and the statement "call them yourself and ask them why they told you that we did that" I have have worked in customer service for more than 10 yrs and if I treated any customer with that much disrespect I would be fired, ( and rightly so) I did not ask him for anything free, I did not scream and yell at him, I did not call him any expletives or any epithets (as he claims) There were 2 officers on security duty in the store they were there before and after i left If I had gotten beligerent with any of the CSR's I would have been removed by the forementioned officers(as they have done in the past at my job) I hope that this better explains what happened that day. I work in customer service and have been in the retail business for over 10 yrs. If I treated a
Nick
Hollywood,#9Consumer Suggestion
Sun, March 19, 2006
You were sure proud to put that in your headline. But now you are so ashamed to run and hide from the issue when it comes up. Answer the question, Christopher. Hmmm... maybe racism didn't have anything to do with your complaint, but you knew it would be an "emotional" issue for your sympathy. Is that it? Or was it revenge for your bad experience with a Mexican?
Nicole
Sitka,#10Consumer Suggestion
Sun, March 19, 2006
Ok, I have a Cricket phone. I am not a big fan, but the unlimited minutes are nice. My question is simple: HOW was Carlos racist? What did he do specifically that makes him racist? (mind you, it cannot simply be that he is a different race than you - although I would be interested in the details on that too - he had to DO something, call you something, imply something ect) Please keep in mind slander and libel are crimes, and calling someone racist with no evidence (especially when it has a detrimental effect on them) is illegal. So if you choose to call someone racist (which is your right) please back it up. Now, if Carlos truly was racist I would like to know. I have no interest in doing business with a company that actively employs small minded people. So, if you could help me out here, I would appreciate it. Thank you. God Bless.
Christopher
winston-salem,#11Author of original report
Sat, March 18, 2006
Here is the reason. I have come to realize that you are a moron,what happened to you is called "Irony", not sarcasm. Yes he was a racist He was not the only other CSR in the store. No you probably are not a CSR (you have no customer skills) no I am not at his mercy. I will have my phone repaired by manufact.) a Process Server is on the way to store. and so the f--k what hos hourly rate. Poor customer service is inexcusable. A reminder: I called Carlos a liar AFTER the horrible customer service. AFTER His nasty attitude. didnt tell him his job at all. I said that is what I was told to tell the CSR at the store. I also had have phones "programmed" there before. the Greensboro store also thold me that Carlos should have "programmed" it useing the PST that they have in the store. (Greemsboro is the Home store in the local region) so not too overwhelm your sense (or you mind NIck)
Nick
Hollywood,#12Consumer Suggestion
Sat, March 18, 2006
Here's where you went wrong. Christopher: Carlos seemed to understand and that I must be mistaken. I replied no, It was that Carlos was a lier and just did know his job. I think calling him a liar might have been the thing you did wrong. And a customer telling a worker "exactly what his job DOES entail" when A) He is the only employee on duty B) You have a busted phone C) He probably makes around $10.00 an hour D) You give him crap E) You insulted him ... is probably not the way to make friends and influence people. YOU were at HIS mercy, and this obviously did not seem to give you the upper hand. Chris... sarcasm. ;) Christopher: Maybe you learned something. Answer the question, Christopher. Was Carlos racist or not, and if so, HOW? You are evading this answer, and I'm curious as to why.
Christopher
winston-salem,#13Author of original report
Thu, March 16, 2006
"Okay, then, why WOULDN'T he help?" Nick asks. I have to say, I dont know. I followd the instructions that several Cricket and Kyocera Tech reps, took my phone to the full service cricket store. So I can honestlu say that I don't know. And I have not been able to get an answer from them. So maybe he just has lousy customer service skill. Or maybe too lazy. I wasnt even trying to speculate as to his true motives. I just stated the facts of what happened, and who I spoke with. So I put it to you Nick, why do you think this happened. and lets be completely fair about it. You on the other hand seemed to have it all figured out. you are the great sage of CSR's and haveing not been in the store, or even hearing Carlos answer to my allegations you automaticaly I went in there ranting and raving? I am so glad that you are here to show the true path out of the blissful world of ingorance. (just in case you missed it, that is called sarcasm)
Christopher
winston-salem,#14Author of original report
Thu, March 16, 2006
"Okay, then, why WOULDN'T he help?" Nick asks. I have to say, I dont know. I followd the instructions that several Cricket and Kyocera Tech reps, took my phone to the full service cricket store. So I can honestlu say that I don't know. And I have not been able to get an answer from them. So maybe he just has lousy customer service skill. Or maybe too lazy. I wasnt even trying to speculate as to his true motives. I just stated the facts of what happened, and who I spoke with. So I put it to you Nick, why do you think this happened. and lets be completely fair about it. You on the other hand seemed to have it all figured out. you are the great sage of CSR's and haveing not been in the store, or even hearing Carlos answer to my allegations you automaticaly I went in there ranting and raving? I am so glad that you are here to show the true path out of the blissful world of ingorance. (just in case you missed it, that is called sarcasm)
Christopher
winston-salem,#15Author of original report
Thu, March 16, 2006
"Okay, then, why WOULDN'T he help?" Nick asks. I have to say, I dont know. I followd the instructions that several Cricket and Kyocera Tech reps, took my phone to the full service cricket store. So I can honestlu say that I don't know. And I have not been able to get an answer from them. So maybe he just has lousy customer service skill. Or maybe too lazy. I wasnt even trying to speculate as to his true motives. I just stated the facts of what happened, and who I spoke with. So I put it to you Nick, why do you think this happened. and lets be completely fair about it. You on the other hand seemed to have it all figured out. you are the great sage of CSR's and haveing not been in the store, or even hearing Carlos answer to my allegations you automaticaly I went in there ranting and raving? I am so glad that you are here to show the true path out of the blissful world of ingorance. (just in case you missed it, that is called sarcasm)
Christopher
winston-salem,#16Author of original report
Thu, March 16, 2006
"Okay, then, why WOULDN'T he help?" Nick asks. I have to say, I dont know. I followd the instructions that several Cricket and Kyocera Tech reps, took my phone to the full service cricket store. So I can honestlu say that I don't know. And I have not been able to get an answer from them. So maybe he just has lousy customer service skill. Or maybe too lazy. I wasnt even trying to speculate as to his true motives. I just stated the facts of what happened, and who I spoke with. So I put it to you Nick, why do you think this happened. and lets be completely fair about it. You on the other hand seemed to have it all figured out. you are the great sage of CSR's and haveing not been in the store, or even hearing Carlos answer to my allegations you automaticaly I went in there ranting and raving? I am so glad that you are here to show the true path out of the blissful world of ingorance. (just in case you missed it, that is called sarcasm)
Nick
Hollywood,#17Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 15, 2006
Christopher said: Not that your small minded, insignificant blather in the least bit helpful to M or to Carlos. But rather to say this. It is not that he couldn't help, it is that he wouldn't! Okay, then, why WOULDN'T he help? Fine. Go get your phone fixed the way YOU see fit. Accuse past employees who attempt to give you a hand up on your problem of not listening, thereby insinuating that they were "one of the better employees". As for racism, what, was Carlos a different color than you? Poor customer service is one thing, but poor customer service from someone who happens to look different than you is NOT necessarily "racial". But since the race card ALWAYS helps your credibility, which was it: Were you too white, black or asian? I'd be happy to boycott a racist company, and since you put that in the headline, I want to know where that fits in. You accused them of racism - so let's hear it.
Christopher
winston-salem,#18Author of original report
Wed, March 15, 2006
M just so you know. I have dialed *228(you DO NOT press one for english) several times. at the request of the Cricket tech reps (I have spoken to many of them).. I also spoke to the manufactorer of my phone. yes I know that there is a fee for changing phones of $15.00, however I was using the terminoligy that the Cricket tech used when she explained it to me. and if there was only a missunderstanding of symantics there would have been no problem. However I will NOT thank someone for having an attitude with me before they even had spoken to me. And to clarify something for you M, I do know that cricket clicks have to be downloaded and that I have to have the feature activated. If only you understood my original post, I have nothing, nada, ziltch, nyet, availble save for 7 applications. Not the over 150 that should be availible for download on my phone. Nor will it access the catalog so I can purchase them. This was told to me by four seperate cricket tech reps, and 2 kyocera techs. And again, I was in a full service store, I even said that it neede4 to be flashed and reprogrammed with the PST. that is what all of the Cricket techs had told me. Carlos said that they didnt do that and he had been there for 5 years. I hope now that you finally understand M. Now for Nick, you have no earthly idea of what you speak.. you are wrong I did was not rude, or abusive, nor is my phone "Ghetto" as you so ignorantly pointed out. I asked Carlos for his help, explained and demonstrated the problem, and then gave him the solution as instructed by the Cricket tech reps. Not that your small minded, insignificant blather in the least bit helpful to M or to Carlos. But rather to say this. It is not that he couldn't help, it is that he wouldn't! I truly hope that one day you are treating like I was, then maybe, just maybe you will know how it feels to be wronged, lied to, and slandered.
Nick
Hollywood,#19Consumer Suggestion
Wed, March 15, 2006
Wow. Lying. Racist. Cheating. All that because Carlos couldn't help you find all of your applications on your phone? "M" tries to help you reprogram your piece of crap, cheap @$$ budget phone, and you insult his past job performance? Unbelievable. While you're complaining about how you were treated, did you even stop to think about THANKING someone who DOES know his stuff for trying to help you out? No, you turned and insulted HIM too. If this is any indication of what "Carlos" went through dealing with you, I can see why he hung out and cracked jokes with girls. It was because the alternative was putting up with a rude, insulting customer who seemed pretty aggressive and abusive. I'd have told you to get out. Not because of your ghetto phone or the color of your skin... but because you richly deserve to be at the end of the line for acting like a clown. Do North Carolina a favor and trade in your phone for a session with an anger management therapist.
M
Winston Salem,#20UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, March 15, 2006
First of all, I always think it's interesting when customers try to tell the employees how to do (or how they did) their job and what language they are supposed to use (or did use) while working. Anywyays, let me explain myself again. When reps in the Technical Support department say to "reprogram your phone", they will ALWAYS tell you to "dial *228 SEND and follow the prompts to program your phone automatically to our system". This same process is done for Verizon phones as well, and they call it the SAME thing. I completely understand what you mean by "reprogramming", but I was giving you a different definition and explantion of what that is in Cricket's context. If the phone's software needs to be re-installed, it's either called "refreshing the software" or "upgrading the software/firmware" by the Full Service stores. Again, the $15.00 "reprogramming" charge at the Full Service store is for an ESN Change, which would mean that you're switching your service from one phone to another phone (whether you're upgrading or whatever). If you receive a paper bill, it will show up as a "Reprogramming Fee". THAT is why they lable that fee as such in the Full Service store. Now do you understand what I'm saying? I was ONLY trying to explain the fees that are posted in the store (don't you think I would KNOW that since I WORKED for them?). As for the Cricket Clicks applications, those MUST be downloaded in order for you to use them. You MUST have that feature active on your account FIRST, THEN you can download the applications. If I'm not mistaken, you must go to the shopping cart FIRST before any applications will be available to you. From there, you'll be able to choose what you want and THEN the application will download to your phone. Verizon has almost the same type of thing, and it works the same way. I understand that you think "the customer is always right", but when a customer is just needing to be instructed on how to use their equipment, that idea becomes more of a hinderance than a help. Please don't be offended by what I just said. I'm only trying to steer you in the right direction so that you can get the help you need. Trust me, I still know a lot about those phones even though I don't work for them directly anymore. Sir, just to let you know, I can read just fine. I hope what I explained for you above helps you understand where I'm coming from a little bit more. Ask one of the Technical Support reps when you call into Customer Service if I am wrong. Actually, they'll probably remember me more than likely...
M
Winston Salem,#21UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, March 15, 2006
First of all, I always think it's interesting when customers try to tell the employees how to do (or how they did) their job and what language they are supposed to use (or did use) while working. Anywyays, let me explain myself again. When reps in the Technical Support department say to "reprogram your phone", they will ALWAYS tell you to "dial *228 SEND and follow the prompts to program your phone automatically to our system". This same process is done for Verizon phones as well, and they call it the SAME thing. I completely understand what you mean by "reprogramming", but I was giving you a different definition and explantion of what that is in Cricket's context. If the phone's software needs to be re-installed, it's either called "refreshing the software" or "upgrading the software/firmware" by the Full Service stores. Again, the $15.00 "reprogramming" charge at the Full Service store is for an ESN Change, which would mean that you're switching your service from one phone to another phone (whether you're upgrading or whatever). If you receive a paper bill, it will show up as a "Reprogramming Fee". THAT is why they lable that fee as such in the Full Service store. Now do you understand what I'm saying? I was ONLY trying to explain the fees that are posted in the store (don't you think I would KNOW that since I WORKED for them?). As for the Cricket Clicks applications, those MUST be downloaded in order for you to use them. You MUST have that feature active on your account FIRST, THEN you can download the applications. If I'm not mistaken, you must go to the shopping cart FIRST before any applications will be available to you. From there, you'll be able to choose what you want and THEN the application will download to your phone. Verizon has almost the same type of thing, and it works the same way. I understand that you think "the customer is always right", but when a customer is just needing to be instructed on how to use their equipment, that idea becomes more of a hinderance than a help. Please don't be offended by what I just said. I'm only trying to steer you in the right direction so that you can get the help you need. Trust me, I still know a lot about those phones even though I don't work for them directly anymore. Sir, just to let you know, I can read just fine. I hope what I explained for you above helps you understand where I'm coming from a little bit more. Ask one of the Technical Support reps when you call into Customer Service if I am wrong. Actually, they'll probably remember me more than likely...
M
Winston Salem,#22UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, March 15, 2006
First of all, I always think it's interesting when customers try to tell the employees how to do (or how they did) their job and what language they are supposed to use (or did use) while working. Anywyays, let me explain myself again. When reps in the Technical Support department say to "reprogram your phone", they will ALWAYS tell you to "dial *228 SEND and follow the prompts to program your phone automatically to our system". This same process is done for Verizon phones as well, and they call it the SAME thing. I completely understand what you mean by "reprogramming", but I was giving you a different definition and explantion of what that is in Cricket's context. If the phone's software needs to be re-installed, it's either called "refreshing the software" or "upgrading the software/firmware" by the Full Service stores. Again, the $15.00 "reprogramming" charge at the Full Service store is for an ESN Change, which would mean that you're switching your service from one phone to another phone (whether you're upgrading or whatever). If you receive a paper bill, it will show up as a "Reprogramming Fee". THAT is why they lable that fee as such in the Full Service store. Now do you understand what I'm saying? I was ONLY trying to explain the fees that are posted in the store (don't you think I would KNOW that since I WORKED for them?). As for the Cricket Clicks applications, those MUST be downloaded in order for you to use them. You MUST have that feature active on your account FIRST, THEN you can download the applications. If I'm not mistaken, you must go to the shopping cart FIRST before any applications will be available to you. From there, you'll be able to choose what you want and THEN the application will download to your phone. Verizon has almost the same type of thing, and it works the same way. I understand that you think "the customer is always right", but when a customer is just needing to be instructed on how to use their equipment, that idea becomes more of a hinderance than a help. Please don't be offended by what I just said. I'm only trying to steer you in the right direction so that you can get the help you need. Trust me, I still know a lot about those phones even though I don't work for them directly anymore. Sir, just to let you know, I can read just fine. I hope what I explained for you above helps you understand where I'm coming from a little bit more. Ask one of the Technical Support reps when you call into Customer Service if I am wrong. Actually, they'll probably remember me more than likely...
Christopher
winston-salem,#23Author of original report
Sun, March 12, 2006
Do you, having worked for cricket, not think that I have already tried that. and you are incorrecred about ESN reassigning. Reprogramming the phone is when you re-install the firmware. reasignning the ESN is when you upgrade or trade phones.. I was told by 3 seperate tech reps with Cricket and 2 from Kyocera, and 1 of them is a supervisor. also M, I can tell by the fact that you dont really pay attention to the customers complaint nust have been one of their better employee's. you see, I explained several times that it is the Cricket Clicks that I am having a problem with. Not the manufactorers games. You see the problem that all cricket reps have. they assume they know the answer before the question is asked. and yeah the store maybe nice, in appearence, but the people need lessons in the 1st rule of retail. "The Customer is all ways right." and rule 2 is "If there is a dispute with a customer, see rule #1"
M
Winston Salem,#24UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, March 12, 2006
I think I can see what is going on here. I'm sorry that you had to experience that. I used to work in Tech Support for Cricket (1800Cricket). I haven't worked with the new phone that you're talking about. But, I can tell you what I do know about what's going on based on my previous experience (I worked for them for about 8 months at their call center before moving out-of-state). As I understand it, you bought the Xcursion phone at the Cricket store at Silas Creek Parkway. That's a nice store. Anyways, from my understanding, the phones may only come with a few applications or games that you can use. These should be outlined in the owner's manual that came with your phone. Depending on which company the cell phone manufacturers make the phone for, you may or may not have all or less than all the features noted in the manual. If you're referring to Cricket Clicks applications, sometimes you must reprogram the phone by dialing *228 SEND (then press 1 for English at the prompt). That will re-download features and program your phone to Cricket's service. What the first Tech Support lady told you was probably correct as well, but usually they try to tell you to reprogram your phone with *228 first. The reprogramming of the phone at the Full Service store is an ESN change, meaning that you switch your wireless service from one phone to another phone. So, switching from your Motorola C341 to your Xcursion phone should be a $15.00 fee (depending on certain circumstances). If you were having problems accessing Cricket Clicks applications that can usually be corrected at the Cricket Store. Hope this helps a little bit