Complaint Review: CV MARKETING - CAS ENTERPRISES - Yenkro Enterprises - DSMAX - GRANTON MARKETING - Smyrna Georgia

There is most certainly a special place in hell for Carl Foss...

Here are the things all the "advocates" leave out. 1. You are an independant distributor of the office you work out of. You ARE NOT an employee. It states in the IDA (independant distributor agreement) that you are responsible for your own expenses etc. It also states that you are NOT held to any sales quotas, that you can sell ANY product you wish, that you are NOT required to attend any sales meetings etc. The fact is that if you are not in the office "helping out" at 7:30 in the morning (CV Marketing) then they browbeat you and tell you that you are not motivated and they will NOT give you "days of O" to build your team. There are NO sales quotas you have to meet per the IDA, but the only way to advance with them is to meet THEIR IMPOSED SALES QUOTA for your team. I showed up for several "opportunity meetings" early in the morning only to be told that their wasn't time for one and the office needed help with merch etc. This was basically their way of getting FREE labor for THEIR office tasks. If you mentioned a problem in the field at a leaders meeting, you were called into the office and chewed out for being a "negball" and bringing others down. Now I don't know why there would be a problem with mentioning a complaint by a buyer at a leaders meeting. I would certainly want to know about problems with merchandise if it was my company. 2. You are an independant distributor. You work for yourself. On roadtrips (and the leader of a roadtrip is chosen based on who has a reliable car and can haul 4-5 people with him) you will most likely share a room with all the others and don't plan on staying in a decent hotel, try a rundown place and only one or two people will check in so the hotel doesn't know how many people are really in the room. Christina Versosa would impose a bunch of rules saying we were representing CV marketing so no drinking at dinner, don't go to any bars AFTER HOURS, DON'T drink with team members (leaders are not allowed to fraternize/date fellow INDEPENDANT DISTRIBUTORS)etc. You are NOT an employee of CV Marketing or whatever other office you are in. They can NOT impose any restrictions of this type on you whatsoever. You do not work for them but if you do any of those things, they will "blow you out" for not following rules you are NOT required to follow but I saw it happen all the time. The only way they will keep you is if they can control every aspect of your life. They want you to show up for team days (saturdays), stay late to handle payouts (free labor for them) and come in early for meetings that never happen (but they do have some stuff around the office that needs to be done = free labor). 3. All the credit cards and checks are payable to CV Marketing (or whatever office you work in) and not to you. But if you are an independant, then payment should be to you and not XXX office. If a check gets returned, then they take money from you for the merch and give you the returned check to collect. A check which you have NO legal grounds to collect on because it is NOT payable to you. So you lose the money and the customer gets free merch because the office will not help you collect. 4. You have to pay trainees out of your own pocket. You take them out with you and then you have to pay them out of your own money. You have to pay for lunch for "days of O" out of your own pocket. 5. If you have a car then plan on having people sent out with you because they DON'T have cars. I preferred to go out on my own but out of the concern for my working alone from the owner (BS) I was asked to go with another team on a Saturday. A team in which none of them had a car and needed a ride to the territory they were working. I had to ask each of them for gas money at the end of the day. 6. They can not refuse to give you merchandise as long as you are NOT misrepresenting the client company. This was the final reason I left. I was told by Christina Versosa that I was not in the right frame of mind to go in the field and had been negative lately. I told here that I was going to work and would be going out of town later. She stated that she would not give me merchandise to sell and that she was giving me 3 days off. I brought up the IDA and that she could not refuse and she flew into a rage for my bringing it up. She told me to leave the office or she would have me arrested. I called Granton, no help, I called Mike Tiranoni, no help, I called Carl Foss, no help. Then Christina Versosa called me and told me to quit spreading lies. I did absolutely nothing to violate the IDA yet she violated it in every way you could. 7. They lie about the money you can make. Christina Versosa (CV Marketing) made so much that she had to have a roomate to split rent on a small apartment. She routinely said that there was not enough cash for cash outs at the end of the day , it all had to go into my "secured account" (basically a list of IOU's) yet she would pocket cash from her deposit bag to go out that night. No cash to pay the sales people (even though they tell you in the IDA that you WILL be paid daily, don't count on it). 8. Don't believe the stories that are told to you by the higher ups about how they started and all that. They are just that, stories. They change everytime they tell them. I ran into some people here in NM that work in an office and mentioned those names and they told me the stories of how Tiranoni, Foss and others made it to the top and they were NOT the same "tell" or story that they told in Atlanta. They are all liars. By the way, Tiranoni and Foss make so much that they have to have roomates too. Tiranoni has two. At least when I was in Atlanta he did. 9. They will impose a dress code. There is NO dresscode! You are an independant distributor and can wear whatever you want but if you don't do what they tell you, then they will "blow you out of the business" and put the negative blame on something you supposedly did. They will make sure that they are never at fault. They thrive on "divide and conquer". Christina Versosa would continuously badmouth my roommate saying he was a bad influence, he was on his way out of the business, I shouldn't hang out with him etc, and then smile and look him in the eye and tell him what a great job he was doing and he was a great leader. They will tell you that you need to hang out with them, the owner and her cronies, to be successful. If you start to develope relationships with co-workers, they will get rid of you. If you start to question things, they will get rid of you. If you ask how many VP's there are, they won't know, no one does. If you point out inconsistencies in their stories, they will get rid of you. If you get a clue to what's going on and how they ruin people, they will get rid of you. And every person they get rid of is because they "couldn't cut it", "they weren't focused". They point blame to everyone else and take no accountability for their lies and misrepresentations. 9. THE ONLY RULES YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW ARE THE IDA. THE ONLY LAWFUL REASON THEY CAN TERMINATE YOUR ASSOCIATION WITH THEM IS IF YOU VIOLATE THIS IDA. BUT THEY WILL VIOLATE IT IN EVERY WAY SHAPE OR FORM AND "BLOW YOU OUT" IF YOU CALL THEM ON IT. These are facts. Sound familiar? Every office operates the same way.

Sierra you were JUST the receptionist... Thus you have no idea what youre tlaking about. Of course you hav eno ill will you didnt blow a year of your life, all you savings or run up the miles on your car. you sat in the office and helped"trick" people into wasting their time for an interview. Thanks though.

Eric, I wasn't going to comment until I read your response. As a former employee of the company (don't worry only 3 weeks) I am able to partially agree with your statement that there are genuinely good people involved. I forget how many employees where at my location, 12-20 or so, and of the employees there were 2, not a bad ratio, but that was probably one of the Best Granton's branches in the county. Everything else you said, well let's just say your full of it, what I would really like to say is not apporiate for this website. To succeed in this shadier than the mafia style industry is to put your life on hold. My brother was in a severe car accident, so I went home to see him on a Saturday (the day after the accident). My leader then gave me an asschewing (former Div. 1 football player here, and my coaches in college never came close to this type of dress down) for skipping a Saturday to visit my brother. If you want to work for this type of organization, prepare to shun everyone in your life. Heaven forbid, if you leave the office at 9 o'clock to go home and cook supper, these lemmings will give you major grief for that. To this day, I still can't see the logic behind why they are like that. Also, any LEGITIMATE SALES JOB covers your expenses you incur for traveling to sell their products. I was in shock to hear that on road trips, everything is out of pocket, gas money, hotel rooms, etc. Oh yeah, be prepared to go 4 people deep for one hotel room! Oh yeah, if you decide to work for a company like this, don't let anyone find out you have a car! I had to make a few drives, which I don't mind, but I do mind when team leaders kept stiffing me for gas, or when I gave my car to a leader so he could drive an "interviewee" back to the office. The idiot ran out of gas on the way back, and didn't bother to fill it up with a gallon or two. Eric, another thing you got to watch out for in your rebuttal, in accusing people that it didn't work out for that the only reason their spreading the truth is because they have a "high school" mentality and ruin it for the rest. Well, you and I know (as well as everyone that has every worked there) how how the turnover rate is, which is why you will see job postings year round for these borderline illegitimate companies. Luckily for me, I saw the truth and took action before THE WORST CAREER MOVE of my life screwed my future up, but there were others who had wasted months of their life before they got out. The only reason people like myself are making postings like this is to warn naive fresh college grads and screw up their credit and personal life for accepting such a ludricrous job PERIOD. Why else would we be doing this? I don't hold against the company, I got out in plenty of time, didn't have to pay anyone to train, etc. I don't have anything against most of the peopel that work there. They do sell some decent products (you can save serious dough on some of their coupons/booklets, etc), but you have to do it door to door, sometimes in sketcy neighorhoods. One of the guys I who started the same day I did, had a gun pulled on him!!! A f-ing gun!!! And for what $10 for every coupon book you sell. Eric, there may be offices opening everywhere, but there are offices closing every where too. You're right though, there are some people out there that can succeed at the door to door sales part of it. For those people, I have the utmost respect for. But they are few and far between. But this type of organization is nothing more than a pyramid scheme that takes advantage of naive, new graduates. Those people that are researching these types of companies, need to be aware of it, due to the dishonesty of the recruitment and hiring process. The only question I have to some of these owners, managers, and national consultants is, "How do you sleep at night?

wow. well just reading all of these negative comments just provides everyone who reads them with the reason why none of you are probably employed at one of these companies anymore. did you ever think that maybe some people are genuinely nice and have great attitudes? and the fact that you lost yours everyday was probably why you didn't make enough money or build a team to get out of the field. I have personally seen people be promoted to leadership, to assistant management, and then to owner. Then seen them branch off and run their own company with their own name. There is no scam to it, YES it is hard work and a long process, but to be owner of ANYTHING wouldn't that be hard work and a sacrifice of your own personal time??? Whats more important a few beers every night and parties or your entire future??? Another thing, if you think the products are scams thats dumb, i have used them myself as well as millions of other people...if they didn't work people would not continue to buy them, and if we were sellin fake s**t, we would probably all be in jail by now don't you think? You all act like your in high school, just because something didn't work out for you, you go around spreading rumors about the people it did work out for. so, stop tryin to make a cult of haters and go enjoy your new "real" job, since the job i have isn't real, but yet u all said its so much hard work, so maybe working hard is a job after all? lol, who knows! But if the s**t didn't work, people wouldn't buy it, it would not be a multi-million dollar company with offices opening everywhere! so it works, you just have to be able to handle everything that comes with it. if its not for you just leave it at that, no need to cry about it now! If i don't become manager i'm not gonna cry about it...i'll just move on with all the experience as an account manager that i learned, just that simple people, worry about ur own lives, "stop neggin ppl out haha"! d.m.

Okay, so I am 26 and I get the big picture. As I stand now, I have spent the last 10 months devoting myself to a girlfriend with two kids, and thanks to her inability to get over the divorce, alongside her ex-husband's constant neglect and abandonment of "his" children, I have decided that I would be better moving out and establishing myself as a professional. Now, picture this, all of my money goes to her and the kids, I am flat broke. I am working two jobs, but I don't feel like I am being given the chance to express my full potential. I am the definition of determination, ambition, aggression, a dreamer if you will. Sound familiar? My goal, long down the road, is to put a movie on the big screen. Now you may be asking yourself, "What does this lame story have to do with any of this scam stuff?" Let me tell you. There is a passion to the people who are against these companies, and its easy for them to get caught up in trying to reach out to people. And because everything in life is contrived by balance, there is the other side who is convinced that these are legitimate opportunities for the special 1% of the population that can handle it. Realistically, selling drugs is a legitimate opportunity, but I can tell you that in know way, shape, or form am I the guy for the job. Now lets get back to me, I am this broke guy who only means to do well, with big ideas and even bigger dreams. I have $140 in my bank account, which needs to go to past-due bills and food for the kids. I get an interview from a business that goes by three separate names. Of course they build up the "Real World" experience, where (start with big announcer voice here..) "25 of you will be interviewed, but only those lucky 5 we feel are right will be invited back" and finish with the dramatic baseline and some trumpets in the background. I am not stupid, I know that everyone of us got a call. I sat in the office with the two secreatires and filled out an application, even though my resume was sitting on the desk. And I listned to the phone ringing off the hook and those two young woman setting up interviews for the next two weeks. Even as I was leaving, there was a young individual, such as myself sitting in the loby, with big dreams in his eyes, and a briefcase next to his feet. The best part was the older man in the business accross the way laughing as we put on a parade for him, in our red power ties and polished up dockers. Honestly, the guy who interviewed me was awesome at his job, but I am 26 going on 60, I have seen too much of reality to believe in fairy tales and happy endings. So lets sum it up, I am a young buck with big dreams, a perfect candidate for the job they "offer." I am just about flat broke and until I can save the money to move out, I am responsible for feeding and clothing a girlfriend and two kids. I can either eat for the next week, or buy a suit to fit their standard, hmmm. These business aren't scams to the people who have the money and are willing to misleed other people. And lets be real, everyone agrees that this business is based on misleading. Nothing wrong with that, most of America is based on misleading. But if a movie trailer makes a movie look good, I go watch it, and it stinks, I am only out 3 hours and $8. But to many people, this kind of offer can be the difference between a hot meal, or peanut butter and jelly. I don't believe in good or bad, I only believe in the truth, and the truth is someone has been getting rich for the last 25 years off of these companies, so it must be doing something right. But lets end it like this, I have a little saying I like to live by, its that "people can only do to you what you let them." If you look at this stuff, and enjoy the challenge, then by all means, go after it, you are indeed the 1% this thing was designed to help. But for the other 99%, it is difficult for us to stop believing in dreams and get back to reality. THAT is who these forums are designed for. So you happy workers, do your thing, and let the other 99% of the population spread some truth, to prevent those of us who can't AFFORD to make this mistake, get a does of reality that just might make the difference in survival.

I worked for the Indianapolis Office of Granton Marketing, Mano Marketing, from August 2004 to February 2005. This is a warning to everyone thinking about joining this company, stay away. If you truly need a job and have no friends or family that you ever need to worry about and an extraordinarily small amount of expense then this job might be good for you. I was an Account Manager or "leader" for most of my time with the company. I can confirm that many misleading tactics are used during the recruiting process. As most other people have already stated, you first have a "first round interview." This isn't really an interview as much as it is the manager reading your resume in front of you and drawing circles around parts with a pen. You are told that you "might" be one of the lucky ones to get a call back out of the twenty-five that they interviewing. This is just flat out false. Everyone is called back. No matter what how much experience or lack thereof, you will be called. You will not be told much about your second interview other that "it is what we like to call a corporate shadowing day. You will be out with one of our top account executives." This basically means that you will be walking around all day with an employee watching them do door-to-door sales. You will not be told about this until you are in the car on the way to the territory. I felt horrible about this everytime I took out an interview. People are flat out deceived into going on the interview. Katherine has a great explanation for this though: "Nobody gets excited about doing door-to-door sales." Exactly, she knows as do all of the other managers that if you tell people what the company really is about, no one would ever come back. After people have their "corporate shadowing day" and get treated like crap all day for supposedly not knowing anything about marketing, including marketing majors, you will be fear of lossed. This means that they want you to think that there is no way you will ever get the job. In reality, "You want to try to start everybody." If you do decide to accept the job, get ready for any chance of a real life to stop existing. You are told in the interview that the typical day is 11-8. Cool, thats about 8 hours a day with a lunch break. WRONG. In reality you will have to come in at about 9:30 when you are new. There will be various reasons for you to come in that early such as "breakfasts, meetings with the manager, or to help out." All this is is unpaid work where you must stand for an extra couple of hours before walking all day. Once you are promoted to a leader, you are expected to be there at 8:30 or you are just lazy and Katherine and a leader named Jason will try to make you feel bad. At the end of the day expect to stay for about 1 hour if you are new. If you are a leader, get ready to stay at the office until about 10:30 - 11:00 at the earliest every single night. In the end you are at work for about 14-15 hours everyday. This extra time is not "work" according the people that have been there the longest, it is getting a free MBA. Yeah right. You learn how to teach people to go door-to-door and pay rent for the office. if you are a good leader you are expected to earn 500.00-800.00 a week. This looks OK except that is before taxes and considering that every expense from gas to paying trainees comes out of your pocket, you will not earn much money, barely enough to survive let alone ever have any fun in your life. The office definitely has a cult--like atmosphere. Spend all of your time at the office, or if it is Sunday or after work, spend all of that time with your fellow employees. They don't want you around your friends or family because they will start to persuade you to quit. You also cannot be human in the office. You must have a fake happiness and great attitude at all times. This was much easier when I first started, but once one of the control freak leaders decided he had to run everything, it just pissed about 95% of the office off and atmosphere was on of the most miserable times of the day. I finally quit after being sick for three days. I had bronchitis and felt horrible. Of course I was treated pretty bad by the manager and the leader that was in charge that week while she was on a trip. There is no such thing as a sick day and "you should just suck it up." The manager actually told me that when she was sick she liked to go to work because she would be walking around and she wouldn't be lying around in her own germs." Since that went totally against my doctor's advice and common sense and logic, i decided it was finally time to end the misery and not go back. I have sense gotten another job that actually pays salary and make way more than I ever did at Mano and will be attending law school in the fall, which is just a big waste of time according to all of the managers. The company always talks about how everything is a law of averages, but there is one law of average that they never mention, that is how many people actually make it to management. If I had to make an educated guess, I would say that it is probably about 1 in 10,000 if not more when you look at all of the people in all of the offices throughout the world. There is a reason that tens of thousands of people work for this company, yet there are only several hundred offices. Almost no one makes it to management, and even if they do it is not worth it to me to pretty much abandon my friends and family for coworkers that I can't stand no matter how much money can potentially be made. To even make the amount of money of someone like Derek Colantonio you have to work 14 hour days 6 days a week for about 10 years before you can start to take some time off. What a joke. Anyway, I hope this helps a little.

I used to work for a Granton marketing Satellite in Indianapolis. A lot of the comments made by the many disgruntled individuals on this site are accurate. I agree though with Manav, the culture of the office depends on the integrity of the owner. As far as the Indy office is concerned they do employ misleading tactics to hook you in during the initial interview. The owner will tell you that you'll make so much a week according to position, and that you'll represent fortune 500 companies and so fourth. The owner will tell you that the hiring process is very selective and that she is currently interviewing 20-25 individuals that day and going to call back only 2. The truth is that you will be representing fortune 500 companies, but you may not earn as much as she claims. The truth is that you have good and bad weeks. Some weeks you bring home close to 300 to 500 hundred dollars a week, maybe even more, others you may bomb and bring home very little. If you are a fairly decent sales person the weeks you suck is not because you suck it's because, you're in the wrong neighborhoods with the wrong product. Which is one of the reasons this is such a tough business, the product and the market are inconsistent? One week you might sell pizzas to rich folks who make their own, or golf packages in the ghetto, or 5 star dinning to the working class. It's a draw back that can be overcome but makes the job difficult. There is a cult mentality in this office, if you are looking to join this office be aware of this. Don't get sucked in. Even though I agree with lots of you out there that say the Granton organization is a sales sweat shop, I also think my overall experience with the company was positive. From the time I was hired I smelled rat, however I had recently graduated with a liberal arts degree. Anybody out there with this type of degree can attest to the fact that it's hard to get your foot in the door. So I took the job with a grain of salt realizing from the beginning that I was in it for the experience not to get rich or sell coupon books for the rest of my life. I worked in the Indy office for three months and learned quite a bit about sales. As result of the experience I gained working there I now work for a fortune 500 company. I still work on commission but I am making very good money. I would never have got the opportunity to work where I am now with out selling my soul and busting my a*s for the three months that I worked for Mano marketing. Hopefully this may help anyone considering working for this office. It is what it is. You won't get rich, you'll have ups and downs, and it's tough as hell, and you might be misled. But you might make good money, at least enough to pay the bills and get by for a little while. The experience might be worth a few months of your life, or it may not be.

Well, this site is all about opinions, so here's mine. I don't expect this to change anyone's mind but I do pride myself on having a balanced, yet informed opinion so here goes... First, my "experience" with these organizations. Basically, from 2001-2004, I worked with 3 different cydcor offices between st. louis and houston and 1 granton office in st. louis. As most people do, I had the opportunity to visit other offices and even spent some saturdays working with an innovage office. The granton office I worked in is still there but each of the cydcor offices ended up failing (the last one was voluntarily closed down by the owner), which in all honesty is at least half the reason why I didn't get promoted and even the former owners there will vouch for that and say that I was their top leader, etc. I spent about 1 year in the successful granton office and on 2 different occasions had 10 people on my team including 4 learders. In the end, I had a personal emergency situation, unrelated to the business, that required me to leave town for 6 weeks. I never really recovered from this break in the momentum and left the company shortly thereafter. I liken my situation to a professional athlete who suffers an injury or a setback and never fully recovers and/or plays at the level that they used to. That's about half the reason that I didn't "make it", but the other half was definitely just my fault. Anyway, enough on that. Unlike a lot of people that report to this site, I saw many different examples of owners. Out of the 4 owners that I worked directly under, the first two were "crappy" similar to some I have heard about on here (there were brothers and I have a feeling that this helped the one get promoted faster than he should have) and the last 2 were unbelievable people, also similar to some others that I have heard about on here, but in a positive light. The latter two I am still in contact with and consider to be my friends. Everyone on this site is either very positive about their experiences and defend the companies staunchly while others are extremely hateful and negative...they liken the companies to some type of hell! The reason why is this: Each individual owner runs their office in a different style and with a different personality. I have seen this firsthand. It is not granton or cydcor...these companies simply sign clients and support the owners with legal and accounting issues. In fact, as an owner, one can completely cut themselves off from granton or cydcor and sell whatever they want from their office...in fact some have that I know of and they do okay with it. Most don't b/c to actually have to manage everything on their own would be a real pain. Both sides are correct. The concept of the company, when followed and practiced is good. I still use many of the 5's and 8's in my everyday life. Personally, even though I didn't "strike it rich" as I had hoped, in the process, I learned a lot about people, the way they think, an alternative to the typical 9-5 lifestyle and how people pull it off, overall work ethic (of which I had very little before this experience), communication skills, and overall confidence and belief in myself to set and reach goals...just to name a few of the marketable skills that I have acquired. If there are people out there that truly have all of these skills inherently, then good for you, but most people don't whether or not they say they do. I don't believe that I would have learned these basic life skills in any other type of job, at least not as quickly. On a side note, I did get an engineering degree from a top 25 engineering school, so I'm not just saying that without having something to back it up. On the other hand, had I been involved with some of the companies mentioned on these sites and never seen an office the way it should be run, I would have wasted my time and been completely pissed off also, so I definitely don't blame people for some of the negative things they say on this site...but blame the individual owner...not the whole organization. Trust me, it's not that bad...and again, they do have a point when they say that Fortune 500 companies would not keep doing business with them over all of these years it it was just a big pile of lies, etc. Overall, my only regret (besides not hitting my management goals all the way) is that I spent 3 years. That's way to long! My recommendation...if you are typical college grad and you are not qualified to earn more than $40k or so a year, then skip the 9-5 and find a good granton office and work there for a year. Really keep an open mind and give it a 100%...show up everyday and follow the manager's example (again, assuming that this is a worthwhile manager...but you can probably figure this out within a week or two...or just see if that particular manager is mentioned on this site). After 1 year, leave (unless you are really close, etc.) Don't get sucked in anymore than that. Worst case scenario, over the course of the year, you should have at least gained some worthwhile experience and built some good relationships with people. One other thing to beware of if you involved with granton is that the 1099 tax system can be a real pain in the a*s so make sure you put some savings aside if possible before your taxes become due. One thing to beware of with cydcor is that depending on the type of client there can be a tendency for a lot of payment errors. I was shorted a few times on my cydcor checks while the office was working on the "quill account". This was not my owner's fault at all, but he did have to take the heat for it. In fact, this is one of the reasons why he closed his office down even though he was doing what he was supposed to be doing and was a good owner. Overall, if you budget yourself well, granton is the way to go because you will always have cash in hand and cannot be shorted unless you mess up and lose merchandise, etc. In summary, I don't think that anyone should judge the whole organization based upon a few negative rants on this site. Judge the owner based upon your individual experience. In fact, if you are unsure, print some of these reports out, schedule a breakfast with your owner and bring it up in a nonconfrontational manner. This is your right and if your owner was worth his salt (like my last two were) they will put your mind at ease by being upfront and explaining everything to you...probably somewhat similar to what I am saying in this report. Remember, any company whether it be Best Buy or H&R Block or whatever is going to have some complaints and some locations who are going to treat employees and/or customers a little differntly, for better or for worse.

CV Marketing & Associates and CAS Enterprise are both great marketing/advertising companies that are run by very Ambitious and dedicated individuals which take there businesses very seriously. They run there business as they are taught and trained and with nothing but compassion for there futures and there employees. I had the priviledge of working with both of the owners of these companies and learned alot from them. There business techniques and strategies are not fraudulent. They do not decieve people or "trick" them into working for there companies, they are very upfront with there employees during there initial interviews and provide them with the opportunity to ask questions if they are confused. To succeed in a business like marketing you have to be 100% dedicated to your work and have a true dedication to your personal success. This is no business for someone who is not ambitious. Placing no judgement of past employees of either of these companies, I believe that everyone has a reason for either there dismissal or choice to leave CV Marketing or CAS Enterprise. Theres other opportunities, I do not think it is fair to speak negatively of a company that offers individuals with no experience the opportunity to start from the ground and work your way up. It floored me when I read these articles, I never thought that one person in particular would have such negative comments about these great people. These companies have 100% respectable business concepts. I was the administrator in the Atlanta office for a year and I believe with 100% integrity that these companies will overcome this bad publicity and be very successful in the years to come.

I was just wandering if you guys have a book that you study that gives you automated responses to any objectivity to DSMAX. I swear it is the exact same response eveytime!!! Do you have seminars to respond to every complaint and why do you always end it with the "It is not for everyone, you can not cut it." jargon. At least start it out with that to mix it up a little. By the way you are putting people down for taking the time to tell others of their experience........what exactly are you doing on here??? I am getting tired of the can not cut attitude coming from a profession that basically requires you walking in the door to get the job. Try getting a real job my friend where you have to have skills experience and education to get the job in the first place, then we will see who can not cut it.

This response is to everyone on this site that has been a "Victim" of DSMAX. I worked for all three of the companies I listed above in Atlanta, Georgia. Give and granted that everyone that is trying to start their own business is going to have hard times. Knowing that and experiencing that from the owners I don't hold it against them when bad things happened. I currently don't work there anymore becuase the company I was working for couldn't afford to keep paying us. (We were laid off. Oh and by the way I recieved a W2) If anything their "cult like behavior" is positive. What individuals may say is their own responsibilty and does not represent or reflect a whole company. I have read a lot of the comments on this site about DSMAX yet no one is seeming to realize what they are all complaining about. This Global Company that everyone is fussing about is still getting paid in their sleep. What are you doing? Staying up at night typing your failures for the world to see. Just becasue you didn't make it doesn't make DSMAX a scam.