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Complaint Review: Ebay PayPal - San Jose California
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2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125 San Jose, 92125 California, U.S.A.
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Ebay, PayPal Would not reverse a fraudulent transaction San Jose California
I was an inexperienced auctioner at the time, and quite frankly, I don't think I will participate enough to be experienced at it.
Here's my situation.
I bid on a new Dell Inspiron 8100 notebook computer with great stats. 1gig of RAM! A P4 processor, 40gb hard drive and a 64mb video card, overall, a great machine.
I was the leading bidder at the time and was solicited by the seller who stated that he would sell to me directly in order to expedite the transaction (there were 5 days left in the auction and he stated that he was leaving town on assignment).
We agreed that I would pay $900USD for the machine and I would an extra $50 for shipping and insurance costs.
I requested that the item be shipped via FedEx, to arrive in no less than 2 weeks.
After the execution of the transaction, the seller said that he shipped via USPS, which would take 4-6 weeks. He also could not provide a tracking number.
I decided to wait in the given time frame, because what's done is done... if he wanted to save some $ on shipping by doing that, then what else could I do.
After about 8 weeks and not receiving the package, I contacted Mastercard to reverse this transaction as it was fraudulent.
They stated that since this transaction was executed through PayPal, I would have to deal with them to reverse it. I subsequently contacted Paypal.
They said that the trasaction is more than 30 days old, so their policy is not to reverse after that time (I still dont understand how they could hide behind such a policy). What a Rip!!!!!
I've been filing fraud complaints and I managed to get the seller suspended, but so what?!?!?!? He'll just sign on under a different user and and continue this behavior.
Heck, I can't even leave a negative feedback, so that others don't fall victim. This must stop! NOW!
Our economy must have an element of trust and responsibility for us to prosper, and I is events like these that cost society and the economy a lot!
Ebay and Paypal, I say that your organization(s) have created a breeding ground for fraudulent behavior and I believe that you must act responsibly to restore confidence, to punish fraudulent acts and to fully comensate parties that were harmed.
Ryan
Markham, Ontario
Canada
Here's my situation.
I bid on a new Dell Inspiron 8100 notebook computer with great stats. 1gig of RAM! A P4 processor, 40gb hard drive and a 64mb video card, overall, a great machine.
I was the leading bidder at the time and was solicited by the seller who stated that he would sell to me directly in order to expedite the transaction (there were 5 days left in the auction and he stated that he was leaving town on assignment).
We agreed that I would pay $900USD for the machine and I would an extra $50 for shipping and insurance costs.
I requested that the item be shipped via FedEx, to arrive in no less than 2 weeks.
After the execution of the transaction, the seller said that he shipped via USPS, which would take 4-6 weeks. He also could not provide a tracking number.
I decided to wait in the given time frame, because what's done is done... if he wanted to save some $ on shipping by doing that, then what else could I do.
After about 8 weeks and not receiving the package, I contacted Mastercard to reverse this transaction as it was fraudulent.
They stated that since this transaction was executed through PayPal, I would have to deal with them to reverse it. I subsequently contacted Paypal.
They said that the trasaction is more than 30 days old, so their policy is not to reverse after that time (I still dont understand how they could hide behind such a policy). What a Rip!!!!!
I've been filing fraud complaints and I managed to get the seller suspended, but so what?!?!?!? He'll just sign on under a different user and and continue this behavior.
Heck, I can't even leave a negative feedback, so that others don't fall victim. This must stop! NOW!
Our economy must have an element of trust and responsibility for us to prosper, and I is events like these that cost society and the economy a lot!
Ebay and Paypal, I say that your organization(s) have created a breeding ground for fraudulent behavior and I believe that you must act responsibly to restore confidence, to punish fraudulent acts and to fully comensate parties that were harmed.
Ryan
Markham, Ontario
Canada
4 Updates & Rebuttals
Jim
Saint Louis,Missouri,
U.S.A.
GET YOUR MONEY BACK
#2Consumer Suggestion
Sat, April 05, 2003
Hi... I was reading a few of these reports, and noticed you were robbed from some crook. First of all, I just want to say that ebay and a few of its users are truly evil- as I have been ripped off on 7 different occasions. Although you may feel like you can't do anything- you can. If you know the person's address including the city they live in, Contact their local police department ( In one transaction I was involved in for a ps2 game system i paid for and did not recieve, the police helped resolve it-QUICK). Also, you can contact the fbi or the fcc- as that is against the law, and the person will most likely go to jail if they don't pay you all of your money back. Also, I dont know if this will help or not , but If any exchange was used thru usps or any other postal carrier- contact a postal inspector- as that is mail fraud. I really hope what I just said will help you.
Jim
Saint Louis,Missouri,
U.S.A.
GET YOUR MONEY BACK
#3Consumer Suggestion
Sat, April 05, 2003
Hi... I was reading a few of these reports, and noticed you were robbed from some crook. First of all, I just want to say that ebay and a few of its users are truly evil- as I have been ripped off on 7 different occasions. Although you may feel like you can't do anything- you can. If you know the person's address including the city they live in, Contact their local police department ( In one transaction I was involved in for a ps2 game system i paid for and did not recieve, the police helped resolve it-QUICK). Also, you can contact the fbi or the fcc- as that is against the law, and the person will most likely go to jail if they don't pay you all of your money back. Also, I dont know if this will help or not , but If any exchange was used thru usps or any other postal carrier- contact a postal inspector- as that is mail fraud. I really hope what I just said will help you.
Jim
Saint Louis,Missouri,
U.S.A.
GET YOUR MONEY BACK
#4Consumer Suggestion
Sat, April 05, 2003
Hi... I was reading a few of these reports, and noticed you were robbed from some crook. First of all, I just want to say that ebay and a few of its users are truly evil- as I have been ripped off on 7 different occasions. Although you may feel like you can't do anything- you can. If you know the person's address including the city they live in, Contact their local police department ( In one transaction I was involved in for a ps2 game system i paid for and did not recieve, the police helped resolve it-QUICK). Also, you can contact the fbi or the fcc- as that is against the law, and the person will most likely go to jail if they don't pay you all of your money back. Also, I dont know if this will help or not , but If any exchange was used thru usps or any other postal carrier- contact a postal inspector- as that is mail fraud. I really hope what I just said will help you.
Curtis
Dallas,Texas,
U.S.A.
This guy scammed you by playing on greed
#5Consumer Comment
Thu, March 13, 2003
Ebay makes it's money on COMPLETED auctions. You can leave feedback on COMPLETED auctions. Ebay also makes it very clear that they are not responsible when YOU decide to deal directly with the auctioneer. Did you check the guys feedback BEFORE you bid or BEFORE you sent him $950.00. The USPS BS from the seller was obviously just a diversion to get past the 30 PAyPal limit. Did you REALLY believe that it would take 8 weeks for the USPS to deliver a package? I guess you must mail your bills months in advance. This guy scammed you by playing on greed (very common scam tactic). You should have realized the deal was too good too be true. Both ebay and PayPal go out of their way to warn people like you about sellers like you met. If you don't read and understand their policies before sending out $950.00, I'm sorry I don't have much sympathy for you. Ebay and PayPal both work fine but don't expect them to cover your lack of due diligence.
