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Anderson,#2General Comment
Sat, January 02, 2010
If you get a card that, by default, is already 71% maxed out before you ever use it, then how can you preach to keep your balance less than 50% of your available credit?
Sure, its all in the TOS. That's how it is legal.
What makes it a scam is the completely unethical and deceptive tactics
used by this company (and others like it) to lure those in financial
distress into signing.
Let's face it- if you are good at managing your finances, then you
will POSSIBLY have a chance at keeping a card like this in good
standing. HOWEVER, these cards are not marketed to people with good
credit.
So why is a system that is designed for a sub-prime market governed by
regulations that would keep even the most studious accountant on their
toes? Because the percentages hold true: those with bad credit skills
are likely to have problems, which then delivers the profit margin
known as FEES. And they justify this behavior by saying that all of
the fees are there because you are a high-risk to them.
BS- they market to high-risk BECAUSE you are high-risk. They stand to
make the most money off of the people who will eventually screw it up.
They count on you screwing it up; that's where the real money is.
How is it a scam? Because this, and other companies like this, do the following:
1) Bait the trap with deceptive marketing tactics and an offer too
good to refuse for those in need and in desperate financial
circumstances.
2) Hook you with the contract that you "should have read fully"- btw,
if a person is looking at losing their car if they don't make a payment
in a week, it stands to reason that they might tend to overlook the
details of the contract and just go for the quick-fix. Chalk it up to
human nature.
3) Wait in the foxhole for you to make a mistake (which is exactly the profile of the high-risk person they market to)
4) Pounce on you by creating "fee-feedback"- a loop that is hard to
get out of once you initially make the mistake. By the way, when you
pay as much as you can to "bring your account current," it is usually
not mentioned that there other fees that haven't posted to the account
yet and as soon as they do it will send you back into over the limit
status therefore causing another fee that will sit unaccounted for
until the next bill because you didn't know it was there in the first
place. Fee-Feedback loop.
Now, if you think that is ethical behavior for a company that's mission
statement claims they are there to help you, then maybe you should be
an employee.
PS- In the past, I have been a victim of several of these scams. No
matter what company it was, I have been insulted, belittled, teased and
made fun of by the operators when trying to rectify a mistake. Have
you ever been at risk of loosing your home or car and then, when you
try to get things on track, have the people on the other end ask you
"Well why did you sign up for this card if you didn't have any
intention on paying for it?" Listen you bleeping-idiot, I didn't call
you for you bleeping opinion and smart-a*s highschool attitude. I
called you so I could fix my problem. Either help me fix it or get me
someone that can, but don't insult me.
The last time it happened for me was 6 years ago. I finally got out of
the loop. I have since cleaned my credit up and those past mistakes
are about to drop off the report- good riddance.
It funny that the only way I was able to clean up my credit was to
finally get rid of these scams that were preying on my youthful
ignorance.
Purtyflower
Belle Fourche,#3UPDATE Employee
Fri, July 31, 2009
All you have to do is call customer service and they will give you your current balance. The fees only assess once a month on the billing date. So the balance they give you is current and up to date. Call them, cough up the $11 to pay over the phone, pay the balance, and close the card. Or keep it open and don't get so close to the credit limit. Just because you have the balance available doesn't mean you should use it. Balances are also reported to the credit bureaus and you should try to keep your balance under fifty percent of your credit limit. Fees are only assessed to the account if they are applicable. You can control when you send your payments, how much you send, and if you go over the credit limit or even get close. If you don't handle the account in the correct manner, you are only hurting yourself and costing yourself money. You have the control... use it. Simple.
Purtyflower
Belle Fourche,#4UPDATE Employee
Fri, July 31, 2009
All you have to do is call customer service and they will give you your current balance. The fees only assess once a month on the billing date. So the balance they give you is current and up to date. Call them, cough up the $11 to pay over the phone, pay the balance, and close the card. Or keep it open and don't get so close to the credit limit. Just because you have the balance available doesn't mean you should use it. Balances are also reported to the credit bureaus and you should try to keep your balance under fifty percent of your credit limit. Fees are only assessed to the account if they are applicable. You can control when you send your payments, how much you send, and if you go over the credit limit or even get close. If you don't handle the account in the correct manner, you are only hurting yourself and costing yourself money. You have the control... use it. Simple.
Purtyflower
Belle Fourche,#5UPDATE Employee
Fri, July 31, 2009
All you have to do is call customer service and they will give you your current balance. The fees only assess once a month on the billing date. So the balance they give you is current and up to date. Call them, cough up the $11 to pay over the phone, pay the balance, and close the card. Or keep it open and don't get so close to the credit limit. Just because you have the balance available doesn't mean you should use it. Balances are also reported to the credit bureaus and you should try to keep your balance under fifty percent of your credit limit. Fees are only assessed to the account if they are applicable. You can control when you send your payments, how much you send, and if you go over the credit limit or even get close. If you don't handle the account in the correct manner, you are only hurting yourself and costing yourself money. You have the control... use it. Simple.
Purtyflower
Belle Fourche,#6UPDATE Employee
Fri, July 31, 2009
All you have to do is call customer service and they will give you your current balance. The fees only assess once a month on the billing date. So the balance they give you is current and up to date. Call them, cough up the $11 to pay over the phone, pay the balance, and close the card. Or keep it open and don't get so close to the credit limit. Just because you have the balance available doesn't mean you should use it. Balances are also reported to the credit bureaus and you should try to keep your balance under fifty percent of your credit limit. Fees are only assessed to the account if they are applicable. You can control when you send your payments, how much you send, and if you go over the credit limit or even get close. If you don't handle the account in the correct manner, you are only hurting yourself and costing yourself money. You have the control... use it. Simple.
Vorless Darkchaos
Gilbert,#7Consumer Comment
Sat, May 09, 2009
You Can Pay for your bill from your checking account and there would be no processing fee
Nikki
Coconut Creek,#8Consumer Suggestion
Mon, March 23, 2009
Take your balance. Add all the interest from your last statement. Add an overlimit fee (if you were overlimit on your statement). That is the best way to pay it off. You will probably have a small credit they will owe you, but that is the best way to pay it off. Not that I condone having a credit balance with them, but unless you are a math whiz, you are better off. And, no offense, but you are probably not a math whiz since you keep having an overlimit fee. Or, you can pay the balance plus the interest, and not pay the overlimit fee. However, make sure if they charge you an overlimit fee next statement (for being overlimit this month) that you pay that. Then, the following statement will probably have interest on the overlimit fee from the statement date to the payment date. Then the following statement will probably have interest on top of the interest from the statement date to the payment date, and so on. Gets confusing. The best way to pay it off is not to call and ask. They will merely give you the balance of your last statement. That will not include the interest from your billing date to the payment date, nor will it include the overlimit fee, and you will find you will still owe those amounts next month.
Benn
Eleva,#9Consumer Suggestion
Sun, March 22, 2009
Here in Wisconsin the department is called the financial affairs division. They regulate banks and debt collectors. Most everything can be done online for Wisconsin residents. I am assuming the same idea can be found in your state. Like the last poster said, get the state agency that handles these issues involved.
Dave
Poughkeepsie,#10Consumer Suggestion
Sat, March 21, 2009
first premier had to agree to pay back 4.5 millions in a settlement with the ny state attorney general office in 2007. they don't do business in ny anymore i believe. complain to your state's ag office and make them pay.