Christ Centered
Los Angeles,#2UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, January 26, 2014
I was a member for over 10 years and gave thousands. I sat in many meetings and did/do all within my power to expand the kingdom of God in this relm. As one who flew close to this flame and escaped I hold no bitterness to PT it is God's business to reconcile that account. But for you, and the current GCFI membership GCFI is but a shadow of what God had planned for it. The annointing has left the building. Ask yourself, If you know the Pastor is sick why you eat from his table? There are many churches in LA that have Pastors seeking the heart of God and unfortunately PT is not one of them. I am still kingdom building but I am partnered with a Pastor who's moralality and behavior dipict a genuine humility that is anchored in the Word. PT is an exceptional speaker/motivator but he is spiritually bankrupt. Unfortunately, you are unaware of the level of depravity that leads you. I implore you to drink from a fountain that's freash and untainted, else you can eventually expect a sickness to befall you. I don't know why this website found me after all these years away but I guess the Holy Spirit has someone who needs to hear this and unfortunatly we will never physically meet. I pray that one day PT will rise and walk beyond the shadows.
Current Member
Inglewood,#3Consumer Comment
Fri, September 21, 2012
I have been involved in a few churches in my day. A portion of the involvement in ministry and a portion as just an employee. What I have determined is that people that attend a church rarely understand the business side of a church and when a plan or strategy does not happen the way it should then they believe that they have been cheated. I have been a part of two churches that raised money to expand and purchased something that was later determined what not suitable for building. One purchased a building that was filled with asbestos and one purchased land that was deemed not suitable for building due to environmental reasons. Glory being one of them. After several years in a legal struggle with the sellers that hid the information from the church regarding the condition of the land, the money spend was returned. No theft, no deceit, just some misfortune. It has taken much longer than expected and some have become discouraged but those that feel cheated or abused should take the time to follow up and check the status before publicly crying foul. As for the Pastor having multiple homes and cars, hmmmm so do most people who are college educated and held a job making good money. He wasn't born preaching and held a full time job for a long time so what wouldn't you expect a person with several degrees to have something.
I have to admit that there were some personal indiscretions that I can't and won't defend. All I can say is that I see the result of that experience and can see how the pain and embarrassment has caused a humility that I have not seen in much. That situation might have been the catalyst that caused a change from the church that you knew to the church that I know now. Since I came after all of the drama I had not be biased by it. In fact it has helped me because he is a man with flaws trying to live right he can identify with me who is also a man with flaws trying to live right.
I appreciate and understand why you feel how you feel but take another look to see if God used that time to bring the church to the place it needed to be. A place of humility and service. That is the GCFI I know.
Thanks
Joe
Austin,#4Consumer Comment
Mon, January 12, 2009
I remember a quote from the New Testament from the Man Himself that you shoudl be careful to discern false prophets, This sounds like the typical Prosperity Gospel scam where the music and the preachers whip the sheeple in the congregation up to a fevered pitch and urge them to GIVE UP YOUR MONEY, O GIVE,GIVE, GIVE,GIVE UP THAT MONEY TO JESUS! CAST YOUR BREAD ON THE WATERS AND IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU MANY FOLD!" But this is a LIE because the ONLY one who will benefit from the money is the crowd controller, lying, thieving con artist who is asking you to GIVE all your money! IF YOU BELIEVED IT, SHAME ON HIM. IF YOU FELL FOR THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL B.S. SHAME ON YOU! If it takes money out of your wallet, that money is GONE! There are only FOUR GOSPELS MATTHEW, MARK,LUKE and JOHN. Do you see PROSPERITY in there? I don't either. Most megachurches want to increase their power and their gate revenue. \like charging so much a head in guaranteed tithes and whatever else they can con out of you. THIS IS A RIP OFF IN THE NAME OF RELIGION! You did NOT join a congregation that wants to be doers of the word and not listeners only, you joined a PROSPERITY GOSPEL PREACHING CHURCH where the only one who prospers is the guy who is hounding you to give,give, give and promising impossible MIRACLES THAT WILL NEVER COME TO PASS --pretty, fantastic stories in exchange for your money. You can go buy a fairy tale book cheaper than this. It always hurts to realize that the clergyman you trusted and believed in turned out to be a money-worshipping, penny-grubbing snake. But you were just in the social club anyway. Read all of ACTS and tell me how much of that they practiced in there. Not just the incomprehensible babbling and falling down and raising up their arms with their eyes closed so they wouldn't feel their pockets being picked or see the preacher laughing at them as he counted the money in his heart and in his head. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! And THAT is the true meaning of the Prosperity Gospel.