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  • Report:  #180539

Complaint Review: HSBC Card Services - City Of Industry California

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- lake Oswego, Oregon,
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HSBC Card Services
Po Box 60102 City Of Industry, 91716 California, U.S.A.
Phone:
503-293-4037
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I have had a credit card with HSBC/Orchard bank for almost 2 years, i have never gone over limit, unless their finance charge put me over AFTER PAYMENT WAS WIRED

I have paid the balances in full many times, I recently reported a dispute on my card as the result of identity theft. They sent me the form. I signed it and I even called and gave them the 2 case numbers of the identity theft, police reports.

The credited me the amount I disputed at first. Then I recieved a letter saying they charged MY NEW CARD back the amounts I disputed, throwing me over my limit. They gave me the run around and said the company said I autorized it. So they put it on the new card I asked for when I discovered the fraud.

I went to use my card and before I used it I called and it said I had 191.00 available to use.

I used all of it but apprx. ten dollars, today I received my statement saying I was over my limit 121.00, (this card has NEVER let me exceed my limit)

I paid my payments by western union every month so they could not report it as a late payment. I was charged $30.00 over limit fee,

I got them to reverse the over limit fee, because as I pointed out I never had a late payment, never went over limit (unless thier own finance charge put one or two dollars over), I paid at least $100.00 or more and have paid off my card at least 4-5 times.

I am suppossed to get a credit increase every 6 months of good payment history, by all their own accounts I have that, I have recieved 1 increase of 100.00 of which they took 25.00 for processing.

I noticed I was still having new charges charged on the new card from the company i diputed to the bank, and had reported fraud on to the police department.

I called orchard bank and was given the run around until a supervisor came on and he was so mean he made me bust out crying. This charge was done on the internet I never signed anything. I explained I was a victim of identity theft and i was supossed to be a VALUED CUSTOMER and that I had worked very hard to make payents 2 weeks early by wire service so they WOULD HAVE TO CREDIT ME RIGHT AWAY.

I also informed them that I had never disputed a charge before andi was upset that someone with my payment history, hasn't proven to them by my honesty that I didn't charge this.

Other than the one nice lady that credited me back the over limit fee, I was treated like a liar, and even was treated so badly my husband heard it, and almsot ripped the phone out of my hand because I was crying so hard, I am sick and on disability, but I have always taken special care of my card.

I was sent to department after department, telling my story over and over, I had prior to tonight, tried in vain to reach their dispute center. I got nothing but an answering machine and left many messages. They promise on their machine they will call, and as of this date I am currrently waiting for that call. I feel they recharged my account after I told them it was fraud so i would go over limit and they could charge me ,Like i said i was lucky, the reversed my over limit fee, because of my payment history.

They stick to their terms when it benefits them, I recently sent for my credit reports (to see what this person who stole my identity has done) and they have not shown any pay offs I have nothing of orchard bank on my credit reports. I was promised in their terms to have a positive report. I complied to their terms and I have, I was promised reviews of my payment history for credit increases and have been denied everytime I have asked for oone except one, where they gave me only 100.00 and took 25 of it for processing.

I know my situation isn't as bad as some I read, but take care of you have their card and are a victim of identity theft, you don't stand a chance with them no matter how good your payment history is, you will be a victim twice.

As for my credit increases I was told by a customer service rep when I complained i hadn't received one in a year and a half that they only review every six months, that would mean I have 3 more increases coming. They don't increase your limit by your history with them. They do it by your overall equifax credit and since I was a victim of indentity theft, and took care of my dying father. I had to file bankruptcy because the person who stole my identity ran all over town ruining my credit, so your payment history with them doesn't matter unless it is negative to you.

Ruth

lake Oswego, Oregon
U.S.A.

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3 Updates & Rebuttals

Ruth

Lake Oswego,
Oregon,
U.S.A.
UPDATE

#2Consumer Suggestion

Sat, March 18, 2006

Since my orginal posting in all fairness, to Orchard bank, They have worked with me on solving the over limit fees, i have decided that it is toomuch to fight obver less than 100.00 in faudulent charges, and they did reverse the 2 over limit fees. They did reverse those fees becuase of my excellent pay history and did so nicely, and right away.They alos assured me no more charges will be posted to my account from that particular company. I still take issue with the credit limit increases, as I have stated I have never gone overlimit(until the fraud charges) paid my card off many times and my payments are wired at least 2 weeks in advance. I still think since they have been alerted my credit report is red flagged for identity theft, they should give me the benefit of the doubt, based upon my history of 2 years with them. but, to be fair, they did reverse charges I did not feel I owed and I am grateful they worked with me on that, it ruins my history with them, and I am rebuilding my credit , becuase of the identity theft. So that history is more important to me than anything , I am going to buy a house and would like to use them as a credit reference and I would like the rating I have worked so hard for.


Ruth

Lake Oswego,
Oregon,
U.S.A.
I really don't care much about the credit increases, i was talking about them letting a company they know by police reports was fraudulently charging

#3Author of original report

Sat, March 11, 2006

Scott i did read my terms and have COMPLIED with the terms as I stated, There has been no arrest made in my case yet, becuase the person/persons who have comitted this fraud have not yet been caught, I did allthe right things , I notified the police, I notified the bank, I notified my creditors, and just today,by a cutomer service rep for orchard bank , the review your account oievery 6 months based on your payment history. My payment history was excellent, everyone i spoke to agreed with that.I only pointed that out becuase I have lived up to the terms I promised to and they have not, it DOES state in the terms to rebuild your credit they will give you credit increases basedupon your payment history with them, my card is unsecured as well.I can prove by letters from household credit that , that is just not true, i was denied by my credit report which is inaccurate becuase of theidentity theft, i was told by BOTH police departments, there is little they can to to investigate BUT i was to feel free to give out the case numbers to the credit agencys , banks etc.Neither Orchard bank ,or Household credit has ever taken the identity theft into consideration, when they have been informed of my credit reports being in accurate. This person has obtained a state issued ID in my name , she know my ss number address the whole nine yards, I was told by both police departments that the meth epidemic has spawned literally thousands of identity theft cases in oregon and they will do their best to solve it, in the meantime all I can do is what they tell me to do, and I have done that to the letter. I just now found out I have to once a year report to the credit agencies, to keep my credit history red flagged as an identity theft victim. This has caused me serious problems, having someone run around town acting as you is not only terrifying, it has been a credit nightmare.


Scott

Sioux Falls,
South Dakota,
U.S.A.
Credit increases are not guaranteed

#4Consumer Comment

Sat, March 11, 2006

It is true that your history with Orchard and credit are reviewed every 6 months. It is NOT guaranteed you will receive a credit increase, this is done to see if you are ELIGIBLE for an increase. Also, once your credit starts reaching certain points, your income will also be taken into consideration. Where did the police investigation lead to with your indentity theft case? If your case has been solved, then send the court records to Orchard to clear the dispute. Reread your Terms & Disclosures sheet that was sent with the card, it will explain the entire dispute process.

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