Hello All,
This user (on Freelancer.com his username is JAVIANS and on ELANCE his username is: idevd) has scammed me of $652+. Beware stay far away from him on both elance and freelancer. He was supposed to send me $652 to my web money account after I transfered funds to him via elance but never did.
Here's a log of our skype chat:
javians
[6/7/2013 2:23:17 PM] him: at freelancer
[6/7/2013 2:23:19 PM] him: Hi me, I'd like to add you as a contact. him
[6/7/2013 2:26:57 PM] me: me has shared contact details with him.
[6/7/2013 2:27:02 PM] me: me has shared contact details with him.
[6/7/2013 2:27:09 PM] me: Hi
[6/7/2013 2:27:35 PM] me: so u cn send me $600 via web money?
[6/7/2013 2:27:48 PM] me: I will give u $30 commsision
[6/7/2013 2:30:07 PM] me: Hello
[6/7/2013 3:14:06 PM] me: ???
[6/7/2013 3:14:22 PM] him: hi
[6/7/2013 3:14:51 PM] him: can u send me money at elance
[6/7/2013 3:14:55 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 3:15:08 PM] him: i no need at freelancer
[6/7/2013 3:15:16 PM] me: do u have enough funds in ur web money acc?
[6/7/2013 3:15:46 PM] him: yes
[6/7/2013 3:15:49 PM] him: 700+
[6/7/2013 3:15:56 PM] me: whats ur elance user name
[6/7/2013 3:16:13 PM] me: pls give me url
[6/7/2013 3:16:18 PM] him: idevd
[6/7/2013 3:19:27 PM] me: do u have paypal
[6/7/2013 3:19:45 PM] him: no
[6/7/2013 3:19:47 PM] him: elance
[6/7/2013 3:19:50 PM] him: i need at elance
[6/7/2013 3:21:05 PM] me: ok.. I'm trying to log into my acc but forgot the security question
[6/7/2013 3:21:47 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 3:24:54 PM] me: give me a moment
[6/7/2013 3:25:04 PM] me: how much longer will u be online?
[6/7/2013 3:25:08 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 3:25:10 PM] him: m here
[6/7/2013 3:25:43 PM] me: freelancer is not good enough?
[6/7/2013 3:26:27 PM] him: i have much there
[6/7/2013 3:26:32 PM] him: so need at elance
[6/7/2013 3:26:59 PM] me: i see..
[6/7/2013 3:30:01 PM] me: ok im logged in
[6/7/2013 3:30:08 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 3:30:16 PM] me: pls send me link to profile
[6/7/2013 3:30:23 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 3:30:39 PM] him: https://www.elance.com/s/edit/idevd/
[6/7/2013 3:31:47 PM] me: So i will send u $630 and u send me $600 to web money
[6/7/2013 3:33:01 PM] him: yh
[6/7/2013 3:33:14 PM] him: also u will pay fee
[6/7/2013 3:33:21 PM] me: how much is the fee?
[6/7/2013 3:33:33 PM] him: 690$ total
[6/7/2013 3:33:43 PM] me: 10% fee?
[6/7/2013 3:34:03 PM] me: thats a lot.. paypal its only 2.9%
[6/7/2013 3:35:10 PM] him: but need at elance
[6/7/2013 3:35:15 PM] him: i have no paypal
[6/7/2013 3:35:34 PM] me: the fee is too big i think
[6/7/2013 3:35:58 PM] me: then i'm paying like 15% extra
[6/7/2013 3:36:25 PM] him: yes
[6/7/2013 3:36:29 PM] him: u have to pay
[6/7/2013 3:37:19 PM] me: I cannot do $600 the. only $150
[6/7/2013 3:37:37 PM] him: what do u means ?
[6/7/2013 3:39:12 PM] me: I mean if the fee is so big then i only want to change $150. If u take away 10% fee then i can change $600
[6/7/2013 3:39:16 PM] me: or more
[6/7/2013 3:39:33 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 3:39:41 PM] him: u pay 650$
[6/7/2013 3:41:03 PM] me: how aout $640?
[6/7/2013 3:41:58 PM] him: no
[6/7/2013 3:42:02 PM] him: 650$
[6/7/2013 3:42:22 PM] me: ok fine
[6/7/2013 3:42:31 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 3:42:42 PM] me: I am doing it in 3 payments
[6/7/2013 3:43:01 PM] me: bec i think webmoney doesnt allow so much at
[6/7/2013 3:43:07 PM] me: once
[6/7/2013 3:43:08 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 3:43:10 PM] him: ok sure
[6/7/2013 3:43:26 PM] him: i have paid 400$ as well
[6/7/2013 3:43:30 PM | Edited 3:43:34 PM] him: to partner as well
[6/7/2013 3:50:47 PM] me: https://www.elance.com/job/42560611/proposals
[6/7/2013 3:50:57 PM] me: pls bid
[6/7/2013 3:51:25 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 3:51:29 PM] him: invite me
[6/7/2013 3:53:21 PM] me: how to invite
[6/7/2013 3:53:28 PM] him: ok i got
[6/7/2013 3:54:26 PM] him: done
[6/7/2013 3:54:27 PM] him: bid
[6/7/2013 3:54:29 PM] him: award me
[6/7/2013 3:57:22 PM] me: it says funds will be held by escrow
[6/7/2013 3:57:28 PM] me: is this ok?
[6/7/2013 3:57:42 PM] him: let me check
[6/7/2013 3:57:57 PM] him: yes
[6/7/2013 3:58:03 PM] him: do escrow
[6/7/2013 3:58:04 PM] him: and release
[6/7/2013 4:03:05 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 4:09:05 PM] me: I've sent funds
[6/7/2013 4:09:21 PM] me: pls send $600 so i can release
[6/7/2013 4:09:43 PM] him: u need to release
[6/7/2013 4:09:55 PM] him: and if i get direct at my elance account
[6/7/2013 4:09:57 PM] him: i will send u
[6/7/2013 4:10:02 PM] him: if verification need
[6/7/2013 4:10:06 PM] him: then need to wait
[6/7/2013 4:10:26 PM] me: u have to tell me this before
[6/7/2013 4:10:37 PM] me: i cnnot wait a single extra day
[6/7/2013 4:10:40 PM] him: it sometime happend
[6/7/2013 4:10:46 PM] me: i need the funds now
[6/7/2013 4:10:47 PM] him: i thought u use elance
[6/7/2013 4:10:50 PM] him: so may be u know
[6/7/2013 4:10:58 PM] me: i dont use elance
[6/7/2013 4:11:17 PM] me: if i release funds i need u to send me fund right away
[6/7/2013 4:11:30 PM] him: ok release it .. let see what happend
[6/7/2013 4:11:34 PM] me: i cannot wait
[6/7/2013 4:11:35 PM] him: may b i get instantly
[6/7/2013 4:11:46 PM] him: it hapens with fe
[6/7/2013 4:11:48 PM] him: not all time
[6/7/2013 4:11:56 PM] him: i wll send u secreenshot as well
[6/7/2013 4:11:58 PM] me: do u undertsnad that i cant wait?
[6/7/2013 4:12:03 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:12:04 PM] him: i got
[6/7/2013 4:12:14 PM] me: once i relase i need u to transfer funds
[6/7/2013 4:12:16 PM] me: ok?
[6/7/2013 4:12:28 PM] him: pl
[6/7/2013 4:12:29 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:13:28 PM] me: funds have been released
[6/7/2013 4:13:39 PM] me: now i need funds to my webmoney
[6/7/2013 4:13:47 PM] me: heres my id
[6/7/2013 4:13:50 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 4:14:02 PM] me: ?
[6/7/2013 4:14:44 PM] him: v
[6/7/2013 4:14:48 PM] *** him sent IMG_10062013_011305.png ***
[6/7/2013 4:14:49 PM] him: same
[6/7/2013 4:14:53 PM] him: verification need
[6/7/2013 4:14:59 PM] him: u used verified account ?
[6/7/2013 4:15:07 PM] me: rhis is not my problem
[6/7/2013 4:15:08 PM] him: how u loaded funds?
[6/7/2013 4:15:22 PM] him: at elance?
[6/7/2013 4:15:36 PM] me: we just made this up 2 seconds ago
[6/7/2013 4:15:44 PM] him: how loded?
[6/7/2013 4:15:47 PM] him: via paypal
[6/7/2013 4:15:50 PM] him: or bank
[6/7/2013 4:15:52 PM] him: how ?
[6/7/2013 4:16:00 PM] me: bank
[6/7/2013 4:16:10 PM] him: if bank reject
[6/7/2013 4:16:12 PM] him: then
[6/7/2013 4:16:18 PM] him: i wil be in loss?
[6/7/2013 4:16:37 PM] me: i will send again
[6/7/2013 4:16:45 PM] me: we just made this up now
[6/7/2013 4:17:13 PM] him: let me talk to elance
[6/7/2013 4:17:31 PM] me: u said u will send after
[6/7/2013 4:17:44 PM] him: https://twitter.com/charliesheen
https://twitter.com/CoryBooker
[6/7/2013 4:17:45 PM] me: i send funds
[6/7/2013 4:17:50 PM] him: send me link
[6/7/2013 4:17:50 PM] me: i need it urgently
[6/7/2013 4:17:51 PM] him: at elance
[6/7/2013 4:17:53 PM] him: message
[6/7/2013 4:18:00 PM] him: that u need 100k followers
[6/7/2013 4:18:03 PM] him: i will send u now
[6/7/2013 4:18:03 PM] him: man
[6/7/2013 4:18:05 PM] him: dont woryr
[6/7/2013 4:18:10 PM] me: R*********
[6/7/2013 4:18:17 PM] me: ethats my pur
[6/7/2013 4:18:22 PM] me: purse
[6/7/2013 4:18:35 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:18:38 PM] him: send me link
[6/7/2013 4:18:51 PM] me: link to what
[6/7/2013 4:19:08 PM] him: https://twitter.com/charliesheen
https://twitter.com/CoryBooker
[6/7/2013 4:19:15 PM] him: in elance inbox
[6/7/2013 4:19:25 PM] me: why?
[6/7/2013 4:19:32 PM] him: to show them
[6/7/2013 4:19:33 PM] him: man
[6/7/2013 4:19:38 PM] him: that u need work done
[6/7/2013 4:19:48 PM] him: formality
[6/7/2013 4:20:01 PM] me: ok, but are u sending me funds to webmoney now
[6/7/2013 4:20:06 PM] him: follow me . otherwise fund can reversed .. i am in doubt
[6/7/2013 4:20:10 PM] him: okk sure
[6/7/2013 4:20:13 PM] him: we will send u now
[6/7/2013 4:21:29 PM] me: i sent link
[6/7/2013 4:21:34 PM] me: pls send funds
[6/7/2013 4:21:55 PM] him: also say 100k followers need
[6/7/2013 4:21:57 PM] me: waiting..
[6/7/2013 4:22:21 PM] me: done
[6/7/2013 4:22:44 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:22:47 PM] him: id /
[6/7/2013 4:22:50 PM] him: webmoney ?
[6/7/2013 4:23:22 PM] me: WMID *********
[6/7/2013 4:23:45 PM] me: R*************
[6/7/2013 4:23:46 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:23:50 PM] him: wait
[6/7/2013 4:25:06 PM] him: elance say to wait 1 day , they need to verfy funds first
[6/7/2013 4:25:30 PM] me: did u send funds to web money
[6/7/2013 4:26:16 PM] him: not yet
[6/7/2013 4:26:20 PM] him: m doubted
[6/7/2013 4:26:23 PM] him: wait 1 day
[6/7/2013 4:26:32 PM] him: wait for 1 day .. they need to verify
[6/7/2013 4:26:50 PM] me: [4:11:58 PM] me: do u undertsnad that i cant wait?
[4:12:03 PM] him: ok
[4:12:04 PM] him: i got
[4:12:14 PM] me: once i relase i need u to transfer funds
[4:12:16 PM] me: ok?
[4:12:28 PM] him: pl
[4:12:29 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:26:58 PM] me: dont change what u said
[6/7/2013 4:27:03 PM] him: man
[6/7/2013 4:27:09 PM] me: i cannot wait 1 more second
[6/7/2013 4:27:12 PM] him: i cant get loss for 650$
[6/7/2013 4:27:14 PM] him: is all ok
[6/7/2013 4:27:18 PM] him: elance stop me
[6/7/2013 4:27:25 PM] him: i need to wait 1 day
[6/7/2013 4:27:33 PM] me: read what i wrote
[6/7/2013 4:27:39 PM] me: thats called lying
[6/7/2013 4:27:42 PM] me: [4:11:58 PM] me: do u undertsnad that i cant wait?
[4:12:03 PM] him: ok
[4:12:04 PM] him: i got
[4:12:14 PM] me: once i relase i need u to transfer funds
[4:12:16 PM] me: ok?
[4:12:28 PM] him: pl
[4:12:29 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:27:47 PM] me: READ THIS
[6/7/2013 4:27:47 PM] him: how can i get loss?
[6/7/2013 4:27:50 PM] him: we new
[6/7/2013 4:27:53 PM] me: [4:11:58 PM] me: do u undertsnad that i cant wait?
[4:12:03 PM] him: ok
[4:12:04 PM] him: i got
[4:12:14 PM] me: once i relase i need u to transfer funds
[4:12:16 PM] me: ok?
[4:12:28 PM] him: pl
[4:12:29 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:27:54 PM] him: and also cant trust
[6/7/2013 4:28:04 PM] me: I SENT U FUNDS
[6/7/2013 4:28:08 PM] him: m sorry sir .. my bro also not allow
[6/7/2013 4:28:09 PM] me: AND I TRUSTED YOU
[6/7/2013 4:28:14 PM] him: i sent u secreenshot
[6/7/2013 4:28:17 PM] him: show to elance
[6/7/2013 4:28:23 PM] him: talk to them load now
[6/7/2013 4:28:27 PM] him: i will send u now all
[6/7/2013 4:28:31 PM] me: [Friday, June 07, 2013 4:27 PM] me:
<<< [4:11:58 PM] me: do u undertsnad that i cant wait?
[4:12:03 PM] him: ok
[4:12:04 PM] him: i got
[4:12:14 PM] me: once i relase i need u to transfer funds
[4:12:16 PM] me: ok?
[4:12:28 PM] him: pl
[4:12:29 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:28:33 PM] him: talk to elance
[6/7/2013 4:28:35 PM] him: why stopped
[6/7/2013 4:28:36 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 4:28:38 PM] me: ead what u wrote
[6/7/2013 4:28:44 PM] him: why u dont talk to elance ?
[6/7/2013 4:28:50 PM] him: why funds not loaded?
[6/7/2013 4:28:53 PM] him: why stoppeed
[6/7/2013 4:28:54 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 4:28:59 PM] him: why need verification
[6/7/2013 4:29:07 PM] him: say them to load now
[6/7/2013 4:29:11 PM] him: and send me ifd
[6/7/2013 4:29:11 PM] me: [4:11:58 PM] me: do u undertsnad that i cant wait?
[4:12:03 PM] him: ok
[4:12:04 PM] him: i got
[4:12:14 PM] me: once i relase i need u to transfer funds
[4:12:16 PM] me: ok?
[4:12:28 PM] him: pl
[4:12:29 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:29:14 PM] him: ticket id
[6/7/2013 4:29:18 PM] him: i will send u funds now
[6/7/2013 4:29:22 PM] him: m scammed manytime
[6/7/2013 4:29:28 PM] me: dont u see what u wrote?
[6/7/2013 4:29:37 PM] him: listen
[6/7/2013 4:29:39 PM] me: i told i need funds now
[6/7/2013 4:29:49 PM] him: just email to elance to load now
[6/7/2013 4:29:54 PM] me: this is why im doing transaction
[6/7/2013 4:29:56 PM] him: load money now
[6/7/2013 4:29:59 PM] him: i will send u funds
[6/7/2013 4:30:15 PM] me: u said u will send funds right after i release
[6/7/2013 4:30:31 PM] me: sir, i trusted u by releasing funds
[6/7/2013 4:30:33 PM] him: it making me more doubt
[6/7/2013 4:30:38 PM] him: why u dont send email to elance
[6/7/2013 4:30:39 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 4:30:43 PM] him: tell me this ?
[6/7/2013 4:30:49 PM] me: wait..
[6/7/2013 4:30:52 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:31:02 PM] me: i willl send an eamil to elance if u awantt
[6/7/2013 4:31:12 PM] me: but u gotta keep your word
[6/7/2013 4:31:15 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:31:17 PM] him: sure
[6/7/2013 4:31:19 PM] him: 100%
[6/7/2013 4:31:24 PM] him: email them
[6/7/2013 4:31:26 PM] me: u said u will release funds
[6/7/2013 4:31:29 PM] him: and send me secreenshot
[6/7/2013 4:31:29 PM] me: my sape
[6/7/2013 4:31:31 PM] him: and
[6/7/2013 4:31:32 PM] him: id
[6/7/2013 4:31:37 PM] him: i will send u fund
[6/7/2013 4:31:46 PM] him: and i will have prove as wel
[6/7/2013 4:31:53 PM] me: acc is running out of funds and it might be depleted soon
[6/7/2013 4:32:22 PM] me: i trsuted u when i sent u $650 coreect?
[6/7/2013 4:32:36 PM] him: we know
[6/7/2013 4:32:42 PM] him: i thougt i will get load
[6/7/2013 4:32:47 PM] him: and thn i will send u
[6/7/2013 4:32:48 PM] him: thats it
[6/7/2013 4:32:54 PM] him: now plz dont watse time
[6/7/2013 4:32:54 PM] me: [4:11:58 PM] me: do u undertsnad that i cant wait?
[4:12:03 PM] him: ok
[4:12:04 PM] him: i got
[4:12:14 PM] me: once i relase i need u to transfer funds
[4:12:16 PM] me: ok?
[4:12:28 PM] him: pl
[4:12:29 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:32:59 PM] him: send me email
[6/7/2013 4:33:02 PM] me: pls read what u wrote
[6/7/2013 4:33:07 PM] him: and send me secreenshot and id
[6/7/2013 4:33:11 PM] him: so we can send u funds
[6/7/2013 4:33:19 PM] me: screenshot of what?
[6/7/2013 4:33:43 PM] him: of ticket
[6/7/2013 4:33:47 PM] him: and email u will see
[6/7/2013 4:33:49 PM | Edited 4:33:50 PM] him: send*
[6/7/2013 4:34:00 PM] me: of ticket to elance?
[6/7/2013 4:34:07 PM] him: yes
[6/7/2013 4:34:11 PM] him: and also ticket id
[6/7/2013 4:34:19 PM] me: what should i write to them?
[6/7/2013 4:34:29 PM] him: u released payment
[6/7/2013 4:34:30 PM] me: that i made trans?
[6/7/2013 4:34:35 PM] him: and why freelancer can not get
[6/7/2013 4:34:48 PM] him: not oaded
[6/7/2013 4:34:51 PM | Edited 4:34:52 PM] him: loaded
[6/7/2013 4:35:06 PM] me: ok. and you will send payment right after this?
[6/7/2013 4:35:25 PM] me: ??
[6/7/2013 4:35:35 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:35:36 PM] him: sure
[6/7/2013 4:40:36 PM] me: i sent request
[6/7/2013 4:40:55 PM] him: secreenshot ?
[6/7/2013 4:40:57 PM] him: id
[6/7/2013 4:40:57 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 4:41:19 PM] me: Thank you for contacting Elance (ticket #822060)
[6/7/2013 4:41:52 PM] him: secreenshot
[6/7/2013 4:41:52 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 4:42:12 PM] me: 1 sec
[6/7/2013 4:44:28 PM] *** me sent IMG_10062013_011305.png ***
[6/7/2013 4:44:35 PM] me: accept pls
[6/7/2013 4:46:18 PM] him: secreenshot of ur ticket
[6/7/2013 4:46:24 PM] him: that u submitted
[6/7/2013 4:46:27 PM] him: what u wrote
[6/7/2013 4:47:05 PM] me: sorry i sent u wrong image
[6/7/2013 4:47:32 PM] *** me sent Elance Help Center Open requests.png ***
[6/7/2013 4:47:41 PM] me: see image
[6/7/2013 4:49:21 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:49:27 PM] him: wait
[6/7/2013 4:49:34 PM] him: et me confirm
[6/7/2013 4:49:44 PM] him: n send u paayment
[6/7/2013 4:49:54 PM] me: confirm what?
[6/7/2013 4:50:27 PM] him: ticket
[6/7/2013 4:50:42 PM] me: pls do quick..
[6/7/2013 4:52:24 PM] me: Hello
[6/7/2013 4:52:34 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 4:52:36 PM] him: wait
[6/7/2013 4:52:50 PM] me: ?
[6/7/2013 4:53:33 PM] me: did u send payment yet to web money
[6/7/2013 4:53:34 PM] me: ?
[6/7/2013 4:53:54 PM] him: ket me confirm
[6/7/2013 4:53:59 PM] him: m nt running
[6/7/2013 4:54:04 PM] me: confirm what?
[6/7/2013 4:54:18 PM] me: U said youll send me funds after i send u screenshot
[6/7/2013 4:54:27 PM] me: u keep on adding on more things
[6/7/2013 4:54:34 PM] me: pls just send funds already
[6/7/2013 4:54:48 PM] me: I need u to keep your word
[6/7/2013 4:56:14 PM] me: I dont have a whole day.. need to leave soon
[6/7/2013 4:56:42 PM] me: ???
[6/7/2013 4:56:54 PM] me: why arent u keeping your word?
[6/7/2013 4:57:19 PM] me: u there?
[6/7/2013 4:58:57 PM] him: i am talking to e;lance
[6/7/2013 4:58:58 PM] him: m here
[6/7/2013 4:59:04 PM] him: no need to worry
[6/7/2013 4:59:06 PM] him: tell me ur name
[6/7/2013 4:59:11 PM] him: and location
[6/7/2013 4:59:14 PM] him: elance asing
[6/7/2013 4:59:16 PM] me: Mike Twik
[6/7/2013 4:59:17 PM] him: and bank u used
[6/7/2013 4:59:26 PM] me: td bank
[6/7/2013 4:59:36 PM] him: location
[6/7/2013 5:00:20 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 5:00:25 PM] me: of bank
[6/7/2013 5:00:33 PM] him: yes
[6/7/2013 5:00:42 PM] me: why does this matter?
[6/7/2013 5:00:57 PM] him: they need to verify
[6/7/2013 5:01:06 PM] him: and ban account holder name
[6/7/2013 5:01:07 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 5:01:16 PM] me: I will call them
[6/7/2013 5:01:24 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 5:01:32 PM] him: call them and ask
[6/7/2013 5:01:34 PM] me: pls give me a number
[6/7/2013 5:01:39 PM] him: elance ?
[6/7/2013 5:01:41 PM] me: dont go anywhere
[6/7/2013 5:01:45 PM] me: yes
[6/7/2013 5:01:51 PM] him: m here
[6/7/2013 5:01:56 PM] me: also u said u would release oayment alrerady
[6/7/2013 5:02:06 PM] me: i cant believe the dishinesty here\
[6/7/2013 5:03:07 PM] him: 18774352623
[6/7/2013 5:03:55 PM] him: man we never cheat .. i need to be sure from elance ,. then we will send u payment and also its big for us
[6/7/2013 5:04:08 PM | Edited 5:04:12 PM] him: so waiting for elance approval
[6/7/2013 5:04:21 PM] me: u expliciidly told me u will send it even if they hold funds
[6/7/2013 5:04:25 PM] me: this is dishonest
[6/7/2013 5:04:49 PM] him: i said they will assure me that fund will not be cancelled
[6/7/2013 5:04:59 PM] me: read what u wrote
[6/7/2013 5:05:01 PM] him: so they need to verify it
[6/7/2013 5:05:06 PM] him: then we will send u funds
[6/7/2013 5:05:09 PM] him: yes
[6/7/2013 5:05:15 PM] me: you lied (sorry to ber so blunt)
[6/7/2013 5:05:18 PM] him: they said under process
[6/7/2013 5:05:21 PM] me: read what u wrote
[6/7/2013 5:05:25 PM] him: they need 1 day to load
[6/7/2013 5:05:33 PM] him: and approval
[6/7/2013 5:05:39 PM] him: have u called them ?
[6/7/2013 5:05:55 PM] me: before i sent payment i askled u if u will release rught after even if they hold funds and u said yes
[6/7/2013 5:06:02 PM] me: this is a blatent liue
[6/7/2013 5:06:11 PM] me: im on the phone waiting for them
[6/7/2013 5:06:14 PM] him: released payment was reversed once
[6/7/2013 5:06:19 PM] him: not safe likes
[6/7/2013 5:06:26 PM] him: so need to verify it first
[6/7/2013 5:06:31 PM] him: elance asking 1 day
[6/7/2013 5:06:32 PM] me: did i trust u?
[6/7/2013 5:06:33 PM] him: man
[6/7/2013 5:06:37 PM] him: i know
[6/7/2013 5:06:39 PM] me: what if u walk off w my money?
[6/7/2013 5:06:43 PM] him: they need 1 day to verify
[6/7/2013 5:06:48 PM] me: i have no way to protect myself
[6/7/2013 5:06:51 PM] me: bottom line
[6/7/2013 5:07:04 PM] me: u said one thing and doing somehtngelse
[6/7/2013 5:07:05 PM] him: no need to worry
[6/7/2013 5:07:08 PM] him: u have many way
[6/7/2013 5:07:17 PM] him: as elance told funds can be rejected
[6/7/2013 5:07:18 PM] him: so
[6/7/2013 5:07:21 PM] me: u have no need to worry
[6/7/2013 5:07:22 PM] him: u have a way
[6/7/2013 5:07:42 PM] me: and pls keep you word
[6/7/2013 5:07:57 PM] him: did u call them ?
[6/7/2013 5:08:07 PM] me: im on the phone
[6/7/2013 5:08:12 PM] me: need to wait
[6/7/2013 5:08:13 PM] him: ok,
[6/7/2013 5:08:42 PM] him: do 1 thing
[6/7/2013 5:08:46 PM] him: i have 1 way
[6/7/2013 5:08:52 PM] him: u send me 200$
[6/7/2013 5:08:57 PM] him: it no need to verify
[6/7/2013 5:09:02 PM] him: then it wil be ok
[6/7/2013 5:09:09 PM] him: and we wills end u 200$ more
[6/7/2013 5:10:58 PM] me: they said thtey need to speak to you
[6/7/2013 5:11:13 PM] him: how ?
[6/7/2013 5:11:18 PM] him: what reasone
[6/7/2013 5:11:20 PM] him: i did
[6/7/2013 5:11:23 PM] me: sir, listen, keep your word
[6/7/2013 5:11:27 PM] him: they say me to wait 1 day
[6/7/2013 5:11:40 PM] me: 2 times you told me one thing and did not keep your word
[6/7/2013 5:11:54 PM] me: read our conversation in the begining
[6/7/2013 5:11:55 PM] him: i know man
[6/7/2013 5:11:59 PM] him: if u pay 200$
[6/7/2013 5:12:05 PM] him: then it will be verified
[6/7/2013 5:12:09 PM] me: im not sending u any more money
[6/7/2013 5:12:12 PM] him: as little amount
[6/7/2013 5:12:13 PM] me: forget about it
[6/7/2013 5:12:15 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 5:12:17 PM] him: then
[6/7/2013 5:12:19 PM] him: wait 1 day
[6/7/2013 5:12:25 PM] me: dont tell me one thing and do soemthing lese
[6/7/2013 5:12:26 PM] him: if payement approve
[6/7/2013 5:12:29 PM] him: i will pay u
[6/7/2013 5:12:35 PM] me: your a lier
[6/7/2013 5:12:37 PM] him: elance still says to wait 1 day
[6/7/2013 5:12:52 PM] him: u paid me .. u ask reasone
[6/7/2013 5:12:56 PM] him: why stopped
[6/7/2013 5:12:56 PM] him: ?
[6/7/2013 5:13:10 PM] me: how could u lie to me like this?
[6/7/2013 5:13:18 PM] him: i never
[6/7/2013 5:13:19 PM] him: man
[6/7/2013 5:13:27 PM] him: elance stop me
[6/7/2013 5:13:30 PM] him: so i cant risk
[6/7/2013 5:13:33 PM] him: or wait 1 day
[6/7/2013 5:13:40 PM] him: so we can check all
[6/7/2013 5:13:46 PM] him: and see all action
[6/7/2013 5:13:48 PM] him: then pay u
[6/7/2013 5:13:52 PM] him: i am going now
[6/7/2013 5:13:56 PM] him: good night
[6/7/2013 5:14:17 PM] me: you scammere
[6/7/2013 5:14:28 PM] him: etf
[6/7/2013 5:14:30 PM] him: wtf
[6/7/2013 5:14:34 PM] him: if i want scam
[6/7/2013 5:14:37 PM] him: i will delet u
[6/7/2013 5:14:39 PM] me: [4:09:43 PM] him: u need to release
[4:09:55 PM] him: and if i get direct at my elance account
[4:09:57 PM] him: i will send u
[4:10:02 PM] him: if verification need
[4:10:06 PM] him: then need to wait
[4:10:26 PM] me: u have to tell me this before
[4:10:37 PM] me: i cnnot wait a single extra day
[4:10:40 PM] him: it sometime happend
[4:10:46 PM] me: i need the funds now
[4:10:47 PM] him: i thought u use elance
[4:10:50 PM] him: so may be u know
[4:10:58 PM] me: i dont use elance
[4:11:17 PM] me: if i release funds i need u to send me fund right away
[4:11:30 PM] him: ok release it .. let see what happend
[4:11:34 PM] me: i cannot wait
[4:11:35 PM] him: may b i get instantly
[4:11:46 PM] him: it hapens with fe
[4:11:48 PM] him: not all time
[4:11:56 PM] him: i wll send u secreenshot as well
[4:11:58 PM] me: do u undertsnad that i cant wait?
[4:12:03 PM] him: ok
[4:12:04 PM] him: i got
[4:12:14 PM] me: once i relase i need u to transfer funds
[4:12:16 PM] me: ok?
[4:12:28 PM] him: pl
[4:12:29 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 5:14:40 PM] him: from skype
[6/7/2013 5:14:47 PM] him: s****.>
[6/7/2013 5:15:11 PM] him: its held
[6/7/2013 5:15:13 PM] me: i sent u funds
[6/7/2013 5:15:16 PM] him: where?
[6/7/2013 5:15:18 PM] me: i said i need it now
[6/7/2013 5:15:20 PM] me: and you agreed
[6/7/2013 5:15:22 PM] him: talk to elance then
[6/7/2013 5:15:27 PM] him: i not got yet
[6/7/2013 5:15:33 PM] me: i did theu said u must call them
[6/7/2013 5:15:35 PM] me: not me
[6/7/2013 5:15:36 PM] him: elance need 1 day
[6/7/2013 5:15:41 PM] him: i did
[6/7/2013 5:15:44 PM] him: i did 3 time
[6/7/2013 5:15:48 PM] me: send me at least part of the funds
[6/7/2013 5:15:54 PM] him: and also they aggain say 1 day to verify
[6/7/2013 5:15:57 PM] me: i need some money in my sape account
[6/7/2013 5:15:57 PM] him: then load me
[6/7/2013 5:16:11 PM] him: after approval
[6/7/2013 5:16:14 PM] him: i cant risk
[6/7/2013 5:16:18 PM] me: your a scammetr
[6/7/2013 5:16:21 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 5:16:23 PM] him: then
[6/7/2013 5:16:24 PM] him: bye
[6/7/2013 5:16:27 PM] me: im making sure the word gets oout
[6/7/2013 5:16:29 PM] him: m scammer
[6/7/2013 5:16:36 PM] me: i will post our conversation online
[6/7/2013 5:16:42 PM] him: good night
[6/7/2013 5:16:45 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 5:16:46 PM] me: [4:09:43 PM] him: u need to release
[4:09:55 PM] him: and if i get direct at my elance account
[4:09:57 PM] him: i will send u
[4:10:02 PM] him: if verification need
[4:10:06 PM] him: then need to wait
[4:10:26 PM] me: u have to tell me this before
[4:10:37 PM] me: i cnnot wait a single extra day
[4:10:40 PM] him: it sometime happend
[4:10:46 PM] me: i need the funds now
[4:10:47 PM] him: i thought u use elance
[4:10:50 PM] him: so may be u know
[4:10:58 PM] me: i dont use elance
[4:11:17 PM] me: if i release funds i need u to send me fund right away
[4:11:30 PM] him: ok release it .. let see what happend
[4:11:34 PM] me: i cannot wait
[4:11:35 PM] him: may b i get instantly
[4:11:46 PM] him: it hapens with fe
[4:11:48 PM] him: not all time
[4:11:56 PM] him: i wll send u secreenshot as well
[4:11:58 PM] me: do u undertsnad that i cant wait?
[4:12:03 PM] him: ok
[4:12:04 PM] him: i got
[4:12:14 PM] me: once i relase i need u to transfer funds
[4:12:16 PM] me: ok?
[4:12:28 PM] him: pl
[4:12:29 PM] him: ok
[6/7/2013 5:16:47 PM] him: haha
[6/7/2013 5:16:53 PM] him: now i am geting point
[6/7/2013 5:17:02 PM] me: you said om three times?
[6/7/2013 5:17:04 PM] him: what a big plan of scamming with me
[6/7/2013 5:17:06 PM] him: haha
[6/7/2013 5:17:08 PM] him: i got
[6/7/2013 5:17:14 PM] him: if u can wait 1 day
[6/7/2013 5:17:17 PM] him: then sorry
[6/7/2013 5:17:20 PM] him: i cant help
[6/7/2013 5:17:32 PM] me: I need amin amount of $ in the acount
[6/7/2013 5:17:43 PM] me: if my account gets depleted all links stop
[6/7/2013 5:17:51 PM] me: i have to start over
[6/7/2013 5:18:09 PM] me: i trusted you when i sent u money
[6/7/2013 5:18:17 PM] *** him sent IMG_10062013_021636.png ***
[6/7/2013 5:18:40 PM] him: u have western union ?
[6/7/2013 5:18:49 PM] him: send me via western union
[6/7/2013 5:18:52 PM] him: i will pay u now
[6/7/2013 5:18:57 PM] me: are u out of your mind?
[6/7/2013 5:18:57 PM] him: i have no more way
[6/7/2013 5:19:03 PM] him: or u wait 1 day
[6/7/2013 5:19:08 PM] me: Your a scammer
[6/7/2013 5:19:10 PM] him: i am sorry then
[6/7/2013 5:19:12 PM] him: bye
[6/7/2013 5:19:16 PM] me: Im reporting u to elance
[6/7/2013 5:19:18 PM] me: now
[6/7/2013 5:19:32 PM] him: yes i got already
[6/7/2013 5:19:34 PM] him: i knew
[6/7/2013 5:19:41 PM] him: as i will send u webmoney
[6/7/2013 5:19:43 PM] me: all i ask is for u top keep your word
[6/7/2013 5:19:45 PM] him: u will reject
[6/7/2013 5:19:53 PM] me: rejct what?
[6/7/2013 5:19:54 PM] him: thats why they need to verify
[6/7/2013 5:19:55 PM] him: haha
[6/7/2013 5:20:00 PM] him: with report
[6/7/2013 5:20:03 PM] him: stop scam
[6/7/2013 5:20:05 PM] him: we not new
[6/7/2013 5:20:13 PM] him: u saw i have 665 feedback at freelancer
[6/7/2013 5:20:15 PM] him: not new man
[6/7/2013 5:20:20 PM] him: if u cant wait 1 day
[6/7/2013 5:20:22 PM] him: then sorry plz
[6/7/2013 5:20:46 PM] me: bottom line: you lied to me
[6/7/2013 5:20:50 PM] me: is this not true?
[6/7/2013 5:21:03 PM] him: not true
[6/7/2013 5:21:09 PM] him: we had not got payment yet
[6/7/2013 5:21:16 PM] him: as i get will send u 100%
[6/7/2013 5:21:18 PM] him: 1000%
[6/7/2013 5:21:19 PM] him: promise
[6/7/2013 5:21:30 PM] me: did i trust you on promise?
[6/7/2013 5:21:43 PM] him: sure u have to trust
[6/7/2013 5:21:44 PM] me: you could walk off now w the money easily
[6/7/2013 5:21:49 PM] him: oterwise i cant trust
[6/7/2013 5:21:51 PM] him: as well
[6/7/2013 5:21:54 PM] him: no
[6/7/2013 5:21:55 PM] him: man
[6/7/2013 5:21:56 PM] me: i did trust u
[6/7/2013 5:21:58 PM] him: if i want
[6/7/2013 5:22:04 PM] me: and now your not keeping your word
[6/7/2013 5:22:07 PM] him: i will kick u from skype
[6/7/2013 5:22:14 PM] him: m man of commetted
[6/7/2013 5:22:20 PM] him: wait 1 day
[6/7/2013 5:22:21 PM] him: plz
[6/7/2013 5:22:26 PM] him: so elance can verify
[6/7/2013 5:22:30 PM] me: send me part of the funds
[6/7/2013 5:22:33 PM] him: i willl trust o elance first
[6/7/2013 5:22:36 PM] me: so i can refil part of it
[6/7/2013 5:22:42 PM] me: at least $150
[6/7/2013 5:22:59 PM] him: send me 150$ elance
[6/7/2013 5:23:04 PM] him: i will send u 150$ now
[6/7/2013 5:23:05 PM] him: as
[6/7/2013 5:23:08 PM] me: your such a scammer
[6/7/2013 5:23:14 PM] me: I will not argue w you
[6/7/2013 5:23:17 PM] him: less than 200 never need to verify
[6/7/2013 5:23:21 PM] him: man
[6/7/2013 5:23:22 PM] him: i asked elance
[6/7/2013 5:23:25 PM] him: what the hell
[6/7/2013 5:23:54 PM] me: i dont have extra 200 to give you
[6/7/2013 5:24:03 PM] him: no need to talk more bro ...
[6/7/2013 5:24:04 PM] him: lsiten
[6/7/2013 5:24:06 PM] him: wait 1 dy
[6/7/2013 5:24:15 PM] him: will pay u as elance approve
[6/7/2013 5:24:17 PM] him: thats it
[6/7/2013 5:24:21 PM] him: if u cant
[6/7/2013 5:24:24 PM] him: then sorry
[6/7/2013 5:24:27 PM] me: I need before 1 day to replenish funds
[6/7/2013 5:24:28 PM] him: its 3 pm
[6/7/2013 5:24:33 PM] him: i want to sleep
[6/7/2013 5:24:47 PM] me: sleep w my money, of course
[6/7/2013 5:24:54 PM] me: sure u want to sleep
[6/7/2013 5:26:03 PM | Edited 5:26:50 PM] me: I will not argue just take care of this myself. Ill make sure people know that both you on freelancer and elance is scamming
[6/7/2013 5:26:07 PM] me: good bye
[6/7/2013 6:15:02 PM] me: support said it just has to do w how fast the bank transfers funds
[6/7/2013 6:15:08 PM] me: nothing to worry about
[6/8/2013 9:49:07 PM] me: Hello
[6/8/2013 9:51:36 PM] me: Are you there?
[6/8/2013 10:13:41 PM] me: Hello
[6/8/2013 10:14:09 PM] me: I must hear from you within the hr otherwise I will cancel payment and report you to elance and freelancer
[6/8/2013 10:35:06 PM] him: what
[6/8/2013 10:35:08 PM] him: ?
[6/8/2013 10:35:11 PM] him: m here
[6/8/2013 10:36:34 PM] me: I'm leaving my home tonight (very soon)
[6/8/2013 10:36:47 PM] me: If you cannot fill my acc I need the money back now
[6/8/2013 10:37:55 PM] me: It's crucial that i get the funds back to my acc before i leave otherwise acc will be suspended due to not enough funds
[6/8/2013 10:38:05 PM] me: so tell me now:
[6/8/2013 10:38:15 PM] him: sir sir listen
[6/8/2013 10:38:23 PM] me: are you going to load my acc NOW or not?
[6/8/2013 10:38:28 PM] him: elance not replied me .. due to weeks and off
[6/8/2013 10:38:34 PM] him: they will do at monday
[6/8/2013 10:38:42 PM] him: then i can sennd funds
[6/8/2013 10:38:46 PM] me: Listen to me:
[6/8/2013 10:38:46 PM] him: otherwise u can cancell
[6/8/2013 10:38:54 PM] him: otherwise u can cancel
[6/8/2013 10:39:05 PM] me: on my clock its 10:39
[6/8/2013 10:39:23 PM] me: If I do not have the funds in my web money account by 11:00
[6/8/2013 10:39:41 PM] me: the first thing I'm going to do is report you to both elance and freelancer
[6/8/2013 10:40:10 PM] me: then report you to bbb and other organizations
[6/8/2013 10:40:39 PM] me: lastly ill have no choice but to make sure u return the funds either through elance or though my credit card compnay or both
[6/8/2013 10:40:54 PM] me: I will share logs of our discussion w both freelancer and elance
[6/8/2013 10:42:25 PM] me: I will report you on scam.com, ripoffreport.com and various seo websites i attend
[6/8/2013 10:42:39 PM] him: i not got funds
[6/8/2013 10:42:41 PM] him: do report
[6/8/2013 10:42:42 PM] me: I will include alink to your profile on elance , freelancer and skype
[6/8/2013 10:42:45 PM] him: get the hell out of here then
[6/8/2013 10:42:50 PM] him: do report
[6/8/2013 10:42:56 PM] him: where is funds
[6/8/2013 10:42:59 PM] him: u scamming me
[6/8/2013 10:43:05 PM] him: bullshit
[6/8/2013 10:43:12 PM] him: u sent funds at elance
[6/8/2013 10:43:18 PM] him: ask them where is funds
[6/8/2013 10:43:22 PM] him: why held
[6/8/2013 10:43:24 PM] me: elance said that i sent funds
[6/8/2013 10:43:25 PM] him: why i not got
[6/8/2013 10:43:28 PM] him: just leave
[6/8/2013 10:43:32 PM] him: where?
[6/8/2013 10:43:33 PM] him: where?
[6/8/2013 10:43:38 PM] him: my account 0 ?
[6/8/2013 10:43:43 PM] me: Heres an eamil from elance i got
[6/8/2013 10:43:58 PM] him: secreenshot ?
[6/8/2013 10:44:12 PM] me: While the money has been placed in their account, it has not yet been released from the originating bank or credit card. Do not be alarmed. It is a standard practice to wait 3 business days to enable these funds to fully clear.
If you experience any difficulty, please don’t hesitate to reply back -- we’re here to help you.
Best regards,
Elance Billing and Payments
[6/8/2013 10:44:28 PM] him: [Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:42 AM] me:
<<< it has not yet been released from the originating bank
[6/8/2013 10:44:29 PM] him: [Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:42 AM] me:
<<< it has not yet been released from the originating bank
[6/8/2013 10:44:29 PM] him: [Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:42 AM] me:
<<< it has not yet been released from the originating bank
[Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:42 AM] me:
<<< it has not yet been released from the originating bank
[Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:42 AM] me:
<<< it has not yet been released from the originating bank
[6/8/2013 10:44:29 PM] him: v
[6/8/2013 10:44:34 PM] him: what the f*ck is thios
[6/8/2013 10:44:37 PM] him: not released
[6/8/2013 10:44:42 PM] him: when will released for me
[6/8/2013 10:44:45 PM] him: i will pay u
[6/8/2013 10:44:46 PM] him: or
[6/8/2013 10:44:46 PM] me: this means it takes 3 days to clear
[6/8/2013 10:44:49 PM] him: u can cancel
[6/8/2013 10:44:51 PM] him: i no need
[6/8/2013 10:45:01 PM] me: I'm reporting you bercause u lied to me
[6/8/2013 10:45:06 PM] him: go
[6/8/2013 10:45:07 PM] him: ok
[6/8/2013 10:45:09 PM] him: go
[6/8/2013 10:45:09 PM] him: go
[6/8/2013 10:45:14 PM] him: do cancel payment
[6/8/2013 10:45:17 PM] him: i no need
[6/8/2013 10:45:17 PM] him: bulsh*t
[6/8/2013 10:45:18 PM] me: youll get your acc banned
[6/8/2013 10:45:23 PM] him: go
[6/8/2013 10:45:25 PM] him: whtf
[6/8/2013 10:45:27 PM] him: etf
[6/8/2013 10:45:29 PM] him: wtf
[6/8/2013 10:45:30 PM] him: go
[6/8/2013 10:45:31 PM] me: I will send them our skype logs
[6/8/2013 10:45:32 PM] him: and report
[6/8/2013 10:46:53 PM] me: you messed up my whole business
[6/8/2013 10:47:07 PM] him: i not did
[6/8/2013 10:47:11 PM] him: they not release
[6/8/2013 10:47:18 PM] him: u said to bank not to release
[6/8/2013 10:47:22 PM] him: and scamming me
[6/8/2013 10:47:24 PM] him: scam
[6/8/2013 10:47:28 PM] him: bye
[6/8/2013 10:47:33 PM] him: dont irritate me
[6/8/2013 10:47:35 PM] me: You messed up my business by lying to me
[6/8/2013 10:47:42 PM] him: if iw ill get by monday .. we will send u
[6/8/2013 10:47:47 PM] him: otherwise u can reject
[6/8/2013 10:47:50 PM] him: and cance
[6/8/2013 10:47:50 PM] me: you lied to me
[6/8/2013 10:47:54 PM] him: i no need u
[6/8/2013 10:47:56 PM] him: shut up
[6/8/2013 10:47:59 PM] me: that u will release right away
[6/8/2013 10:48:02 PM] him: dont make me angery
[6/8/2013 10:48:10 PM] him: where released?
[6/8/2013 10:48:13 PM] him: byullshit
[6/8/2013 10:48:15 PM] him: see eleance
[6/8/2013 10:48:23 PM] me: I dont mean to make u angry.. but your destroying my business
[6/8/2013 10:48:33 PM] me: think of it from my perpective
[6/8/2013 10:48:55 PM] him: i can destory myself ?
[6/8/2013 10:49:03 PM] him: i will pay when i wil get
[6/8/2013 10:49:08 PM] him: otherwise never think
[6/8/2013 10:49:21 PM] me: do you have an account on a large seo forum?
[6/8/2013 10:49:32 PM] me: if we exchange user names maybe we can trust
[6/8/2013 10:49:44 PM] him: no need man
[6/8/2013 10:50:11 PM] me: ok, by 11:00 in 10 min from now i will begin reporting you can be assured this
[6/8/2013 10:50:43 PM] him: go go go go and report
[6/8/2013 10:50:48 PM] him: and also keep ur f*cking payment
It has been more than a week already and I've heard nothing from him (payment cleared several days agoHe even removed me from his skype log.)
Stay away from this guy.
Mike
New York,#2Author of original report
Tue, August 06, 2013
Same thing happen to you? This is 100% lie. From your response it seems like you didn't even read my report. You where the freelancer and I didn't work for you. You worked for me. Perhaps you tralking about a different scam you where involved in?
You scammed me out of $652, not $187 just to be clear. And no I didn't close my freelancer account it is still live and active.
Nothing you said was true, but then again your probably referring to another scam you where invloved in.
beanbagaus
Alabama,#3Consumer Comment
Tue, August 06, 2013
I had the same thing happen to me. He has now closed his account down and did not do ANY work what so ever!
I will NEVER NEVER EVER use Freelancer again!
He asked me to pay a $187 invoice on Freelancer then after constantly messaging him for nearly 2 weeks he closed his account down!
Stay away from Freelancer!
Jenna_Freelancer
Pyrmont, New South Wales,#4UPDATE Employee
Fri, June 21, 2013
Hi Mike,
I'm Jenna from Freelancer.com. I understand that you had an issue about the project you had with Javians. I would like to assist you on this. Please send me an email to [email protected] containing your username and the project ID. Be reminded to direct the email to me by putting my name on the title so I would easily get it.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Kind regards,
Jenna