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  • Report:  #151534

Complaint Review: Jeff Paul Mentoring Of America - Provo Utah

Reported By:
- Lafayette, Louisiana,
Submitted:
Updated:

Jeff Paul Mentoring Of America
406 W 5050 N Provo, 84604 Utah, United States of America
Phone:
800-266-5664
Web:
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We are writing to you to find out what we can do about how Jeff Paul, John Beck, and Mentoring of America scammed us. We initially saw an infomercial on TV about making money from home, and we purchased an information pack. Shortly after we received this packet, which was full of information and opportunities that only made us more interested without any pertinent data.

Then the Jeff Paul group called us and offered coaching sessions to us. These sessions were supposed to give us the critical information needed to build a successful business. They gave us a guarantee that they will give three additional months of coaching if we did not receive our investment back by the end of the mentoring sessions.

We decided to go with the ten coaching sessions to maximize our potential for success, which cost $9450. After the first three coaching sessions, we had learned very little and had invested a couple thousand more dollars for a merchant account so we could accept credit cards on our web sites.

When we saw our website, we noticed that they were identical to other Jeff Paul sites, except for a serial number at the end of the web address. At this point we were feeling very nervous and uncomfortable with the direction of the mentoring. The information that we had learned could have been summed up in less than ten minutes.

We were told that we would have to use "pay-per-click" on search engines to get our sites more exposure. Even though the cost may be quite low per click on a search engine, they can add up quickly. We determined that we would be spending more money on the "pay-per-click" than our initial investment.

When we looked at using pay-per-click on Yahoo with four key words for one site, the estimated total cost to be first on the search engine's list would cost over $38,000 each month. This is way out of our price range! When we signed up for this program, we were led to believe that this initial investment would be all that would be required, at least for some time.

At this time, we asked for a refund of our investment from our coach. She told us that she would contact customer service, and they would be getting in contact with us shortly. That never happened. We made countless phone calls to them, but could not get through.

We felt they were avoiding our calls. The Jeff Paul group finally called us back after several weeks, and they stated that they would refund the money only after the first three days after charging our credit card. So they have refused to pay any money back.

A friend of ours recommended that we contact our credit card company to see if they could help us and reverse the charges. Initially, Capital One removed the charges while they investigated the matter. They sent us a list of requirements for us to supply.

We were not able to supply two things:

1) Provide a copy of the work order or invoice that details the work performed by the merchant. We were not able to provide the invoice, because we never got one from Jeff Paul.

2) Provide a signed letter on company letterhead from another stating what the original merchant did incorrectly or improperly. When we asked Capital One what is a certified specialist, they replied, Someone in the same field. How do we find a certified specialist that would be willing to help us?

We have until August 15 to provide this information, or this charge will be placed back onto our account. Can anyone help us?

Richard & sharon Lafayette, Louisiana
U.S.A.


3 Updates & Rebuttals

Michael

ROANOKE,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
FTC

#2Consumer Suggestion

Wed, January 04, 2006

I also was part of this and received the same reply to my request for a refund. However I went to the FTC website and filed a complaint. They were right on it and I had a refund within a week so they do have Mr. Paul on file. Goodluck.


Mitch

Somerdale,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Never Stop Trying

#3Consumer Suggestion

Mon, November 14, 2005

It sounds strange that the credit card company is asking the questions you posted about others in a similar business. You need to detail everything to them exactly as it happened as it appears they don't quite understand the type of business you are discussing with them. You must realize that your results may be partially or perhaps greatly dependent upon the representative you are dealing with from the credit card company. These are people who, with the right words, can fight for your cause. Each time you call, you usually get a different representative. Keep calling until you find someone empathetic or sympathetic enough to your cause. Explain to the reprentative you get exactly what happened in detail and relate that if 'he' or 'she' helps you, you will write a wonderful letter about how great they were to their superiors. Don't just spout this out, acquire some familiarity first and some sign of empathy and then explain how you will help them if this issue is resolved in your favor. Also, ensure you copy and paste reports similar to yours and fax them over to your credit card company as well. Also, give them this web site address which will take them directly to the complaints against Jeff Paul. Indicate that similar expectations were expressed by others trying to start a business and they can easily observe how others did not get what they were promised and paid for as well. Sift through all of the complaints here and elsewhere on the internet by doing a search on fraudulent companies, etc..,and find others who have had similar problems as yours with this company; they might just be enough at this web site. Look for anything which shows they are being investigated by the FTC or other, examples of their (Jeff Paul) tactics, copy and paste that info. in your letter to the credit card company. Also, copy and paste the following article in an addendum letter to your credit card company, along with the complaints of others, etc... and details of your specific situation. The following article was forwarded to me via e-mail some time ago relative to a similar situation. Visa spokesman Rob Shapiro said the company often goes beyond the rules of Regulation Z to assist consumers. ''We endeavor to resolve any issue amicably and within reason,'' he said. If you are dissatisfied with a service or product, another form of rebellion is to refuse to pay that charge on the credit card bill. This act of defiance can be done at any time, even months after you received the product. If the credit card issuer knows you are withholding and why, and the purchase meets certain criteria, it cannot force you to pay during the investigation or report you as delinquent to a credit-reporting bureau. Knowing the rules of Regulation Z, consumers may be in a quandary if they buy something several months in advance of getting it. What do you do if you charge $800 in January for a summer Cape rental that you won't see until August? If the place turns out to be a total dump, you will surely have missed the filing deadlines by August. To exercise the other option, you have to withhold payment on that charge. Would it be wise to keep a balance on that purchase and willingly accept finance charges so you reserve the right to dispute the charge later? Consumer advocates say there is no clear-cut answer, as each person has different factors to consider. But overall, they say, Regulation Z can work to your advantage as long as you remain level-headed about your budget and finance charges. 'Most people don't know the degree of protection they get from Regulation Z,'' said Jeanne Foy, head of the consumer action center for MassPIRG. ''It's almost a hidden benefit.'' End of article.


Bruce

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
Getting the proper action taken

#4Consumer Suggestion

Sun, August 14, 2005

I think many consumers are unaware that in dealing with any business that uses fraudulent or deceptive practices (which billing for anything that you didn't know you'd be billed for is fraudulent--you shouldn't have to search through fine print to know if you bought something), your local County Attorny's Office is the best place to file complaints. Most county attorney's offices have a Consumer Affairs division, and is the agency that would initiate criminal or civil proceedings against fraudulent companies. I have had to use them a few times to resolve some consumer issues, and I have soon the most unhelpful companies jumpt to attention for this office. If everyone wrote to their local County Attorney Office, they would definitely be armed with enough ammunition to go after tham. Until then you may want to request that your credit card company close down that account number and reissue a new one.

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