Reid
Aiea,#2Consumer Suggestion
Sun, December 04, 2005
Hey there Chip, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. Thank's for the heads up. This information is critical. A class action law suit, or better yet, criminal charges against anyone peddling John Beck's feces will help many in the event that they too become victims of this scam. Michigan State Attorney General Mike Cox's Toll Free Number Is (877) 765-8388. Until next time, take care cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Chip
Battle Creek,#3Author of original report
Sat, December 03, 2005
Well God has seemingly heard my prayers , and has sent an angel to me. His name is Senetor Mark Shower . He has spearheaded an investigation into John Beck and Mentors of America, with the help of the attourney general. They have been to this websight and seen all the victoms, and read their stories. They want to shut them down ! I ask all of you to e-mail Michigan Senetor Mark Shower and give him anything he needs to bring them to justice. Or just to say "thanks" ! He has contacted me directly, and so has the Office of Mike Cox attourney general. Tell them you stand behind them. The more of us that come out, the better. Also the IRS have been contacted. Jared Stahura ...You know I would be doing you a dis-service if I didnt try to destroy your fraudulent company. Now you have 30 days in which to respond....hows it feel? Please Reid, and all the others...make one call or e-mail Mike Cox or Mark Shower. We now have the ability to turn the tables on these scummy people....
Chip
Battle Creek,#4Author of original report
Sat, December 03, 2005
Well God has seemingly heard my prayers , and has sent an angel to me. His name is Senetor Mark Shower . He has spearheaded an investigation into John Beck and Mentors of America, with the help of the attourney general. They have been to this websight and seen all the victoms, and read their stories. They want to shut them down ! I ask all of you to e-mail Michigan Senetor Mark Shower and give him anything he needs to bring them to justice. Or just to say "thanks" ! He has contacted me directly, and so has the Office of Mike Cox attourney general. Tell them you stand behind them. The more of us that come out, the better. Also the IRS have been contacted. Jared Stahura ...You know I would be doing you a dis-service if I didnt try to destroy your fraudulent company. Now you have 30 days in which to respond....hows it feel? Please Reid, and all the others...make one call or e-mail Mike Cox or Mark Shower. We now have the ability to turn the tables on these scummy people....
Reid
Aiea,#5Consumer Suggestion
Tue, November 29, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. REID'S NEW SCAM: I am willing to mentor anyone interested in making a six figure income this year. My program involves the buying and selling of candies. The cost to enroll into my program is only whatever one's able to spare on their credit card(s). Don't ask me however, to obtain candy for you, thus proving that my system works, and offer to pay me ten x's more for the candy than your "maximum available credit", because you'll only expose my scam. I am only interested in milking you for every penny and have absolutely no intention on delivering on my services. If I had such know how, why would I sell this information to you (a total stranger) for anything less? I hope you get the idea. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#6Consumer Suggestion
Tue, November 29, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. A famous chinese once said "those who know do not talk, those who talk do not know." This literally means that there are absolutely no legitimate Real Estate "wealth building" programs being sold to total strangers for less than the "earning potential" claimed possible. NONE! Until next time, take care cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless. Anyone from the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute, where they use a P.O. Box as an address, care to come forward and explain to the general public exactly what's being "mentored" to total strangers, that have not been properly implemeted, thus having resulted in not a single PROVEN "success story?" Is it your instructions to have all of ones tax related questions and concerns addresses by an H&R Block associate? LOL!
Reid
Aiea,#7Consumer Suggestion
Fri, November 25, 2005
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. John Beck's Free and Clear, Amazing Profit's, Mentoring Program, and Mentoring of America are all scams and it's NOT just a matter of opinion. There is absolutely no such thing as legitimate "wealth building" programs being sold to total strangers for less than the "earning portential" claimed possible. HOW TO DETERMINE THE LEGITIMACY OF ANY AND ALL WORK AT HOME/BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES/WEALTH BUILDING PROGRAMS, ETC, ETC: 1. Is the cost to enroll into the program less than the "earning potential" claimed possible? 2. If so, why? 3. What would any company have to gain by sharing such "wealth building" secrets to complete strangers, for less than the profits they'd make selling it? 4. Why aren't these inbreded $h!t pedddlers using the systems themselves, but are instead adamant about getting these "secrets" into the hands of total strangers? 5. Why can't any of these inbreded $h!t peddlers PROVE any of their so called "success stories?" Infomercials are PAID for and thus says, means or proves nothing about a business and or it's reputation. 6. Testimonials are also meaningless. ANYONE can claim to have found success with ANYTHING. Proving it is a whole different ball of wax. "I am a success story with Mike Evan's mom. She's so cheap. She'd agree to perfoem sexual favors for $4.50, but I'm afraid of catching a sexually transmitted disease." What's so hard about this? 7. The Better Business Bureau is a crock. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT take the opinions of the Better Business Bureau as a green light to conduct business with a company. Better Business Bureaus are scams themselves. They are PAID by many businesses that are ripping consumers off in the first place. Reports regarding the Better Business Bureau's PAID members are not made public. I wonder why? 8. Why is the cost to enroll into many of these fraudulent programs directly proportional to ones "available credit?" 9. Legitimate work at home/business opportunities/wealth building programs NEVER charge enrollment fees, start up costs, etc, etc, that exceeds the cost of their materials. Why would they, unless they were only interested in profiting from the sale of their bogus program? When was the last time an employer collected fees from his employees? 10. Why hasn't a single person from the John Beck Inbreed team come forward to successfully rebut a single thing? 11. Why does John Beck prefer to sick fraudulent collection agencies on his victims instead of simply PROVING disputes to the contrary through an unbiased dispute process? 12. What the f^ck is up with the fraudulent Law Offices Of Bennett & Deloney? Don't these numb nuts know that it's not nice to send people collection letters regarding unsubstantiated debts? Ooooops, I forgot. These two diseased maggots have engaged in fraudulent collection practices (bounced check scam.) 13. Why are merchant accounts still being issued to fraudulent businesses? Why are merchant accounts so easy to obtain? Why do credit card companies authorize charges which they already know are fraudulent? One should never consider a merchant account as a green light to conduct business with a company, as having a merchant account says, means or proves nothing about a business or it's reputation. 14. Why has John Beck ignored my many open challenges to PROVE his program legitimate? I have literally offered this "product of incest" twenty times the amount which he attempted to scam me out of. REID'S OPEN CHALLENGE TO THE DECREPIT JOHN BECK: 11/24/2005 Mr. John Beck, I know that you are an attorney and from your actions I have come to the conclusion that you are a f^ck!ng failure. I understand the reason why a loser like yourself would agree to endorse such a fraudulent program. After all, the profession in which you are a part of is somewhat of a lie in itself. Since it's painfully obvious that you're nothing but a puppet, I find it neccessary to engage you in a public challenge. I am quite disturbed that you have blatantly ignored my many previous open challenges. According to your own statement "there are literally thousands of these properties in a single county alone", I find it very safe to assume that there's an abundance of these properties in my area as well. You've also stated in your Infomercial that your program would also work "in exotic locations such as Arizona and Hawaii." 1. I am now seeking an apartment. I was searching for a house in the past, but I have come to the realization that your program is nothing but a crock. So I have decided to ease up on my challenge in order to PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that you are doing nothing but blatantly scamming people. 2. I am searching for a 3 bedroom/2 bathroom apartment in a decent neighborhood. The apartment shall be clean, well kept/in living condition and have at least 950 sq. ft. of living space under the roof. 3. The apartment shall be no more than 20 years old and must be absolutely free and clear of all taxes, liens, and encumbrances. 4. The apartment shall be fee simple. 5. The maintenance fee for this apartment shall not exceed $250.00 a month. 6. The apartment shall be constructed of concrete, be located no higher than the second floor and have a few simple ammenities such as public pools, a play ground, barbeque area, tennis court, etc, etc. 7. The apartment shall have a lanai/balcony. This is a very reasonable request for someone like yourself who purports to have information on how to obtain such properites. Most realtors may have some difficulty achieving this task, but it should be absoultely no problem for anyone that claims to have the ability to mentor others to obtain such properties. Upon an inspection of the apartment with a licensed realtor and a Real Estate attorney and my agreement to purchase the apartment, I agree to purchase it for $100,000.00 cash. The propety must meet the seven simple contingencies listed above. I am offering in the public eye, more than 15 x's the amount of money which you tried to scam me out of for services, which according to your own statements, should be relatively easy for you to accomplish. Why would anyone with your ability turn down such an offer? Contact me through a rebuttal when you have found my apartment. I will keep Everyone informed regarding your progress and your program will undoubtedly remain a scam until then. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#8Consumer Suggestion
Thu, November 24, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. Mike Evans is the worst of John Beck's inbreded brownie packers. Mike Evan's mama is a f^ck!ng crack w***e who lives in a trailor park. His father is also a crack w***e who services his boy cousins for money. Mike Evans is a twerp who won't step forward to defend himself. He's all tough and $h!t and enjoys running his mouth, but is totally unwilling to come forward in the public eye to defend himself and the fraudulent company in which he works against these many irrefutable reports. If you are a man Mike Evan's you would take the first step and come forward to engage in a civil discussion with me. A man who loves his mama WOULD NEVER allow someone to refer to her as a crack w***e. Meeting me in a parking lot is the next step. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#9Consumer Suggestion
Thu, November 24, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. Mike Evans is the worst of John Beck's inbreded brownie packers. Mike Evan's mama is a f^ck!ng crack w***e who lives in a trailor park. His father is also a crack w***e who services his boy cousins for money. Mike Evans is a twerp who won't step forward to defend himself. He's all tough and $h!t and enjoys running his mouth, but is totally unwilling to come forward in the public eye to defend himself and the fraudulent company in which he works against these many irrefutable reports. If you are a man Mike Evan's you would take the first step and come forward to engage in a civil discussion with me. A man who loves his mama WOULD NEVER allow someone to refer to her as a crack w***e. Meeting me in a parking lot is the next step. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#10Consumer Suggestion
Thu, November 24, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. Mike Evans is the worst of John Beck's inbreded brownie packers. Mike Evan's mama is a f^ck!ng crack w***e who lives in a trailor park. His father is also a crack w***e who services his boy cousins for money. Mike Evans is a twerp who won't step forward to defend himself. He's all tough and $h!t and enjoys running his mouth, but is totally unwilling to come forward in the public eye to defend himself and the fraudulent company in which he works against these many irrefutable reports. If you are a man Mike Evan's you would take the first step and come forward to engage in a civil discussion with me. A man who loves his mama WOULD NEVER allow someone to refer to her as a crack w***e. Meeting me in a parking lot is the next step. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#11Consumer Suggestion
Thu, November 24, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. Mike Evans is the worst of John Beck's inbreded brownie packers. Mike Evan's mama is a f^ck!ng crack w***e who lives in a trailor park. His father is also a crack w***e who services his boy cousins for money. Mike Evans is a twerp who won't step forward to defend himself. He's all tough and $h!t and enjoys running his mouth, but is totally unwilling to come forward in the public eye to defend himself and the fraudulent company in which he works against these many irrefutable reports. If you are a man Mike Evan's you would take the first step and come forward to engage in a civil discussion with me. A man who loves his mama WOULD NEVER allow someone to refer to her as a crack w***e. Meeting me in a parking lot is the next step. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#12Consumer Suggestion
Wed, November 23, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. ALAN: The people like that Jarrod that are part of these mentoring scam bunkers are Socio-Paths. Something is certainly wrong with them, as like normal people these "people" have absolutely no conscience. REID: You are absolutely right Alan, only Socio-paths is huge understatement. The majority of these maggots are inbreeds. I'm aware of the fact that I use the term inbreed a lot, but many of these $h!t peddlers ARE results of two closely related individuals having had engaged in sexual intercourse. The rest are a mix of high school dropouts, drug users, felons, degenerates, etc, etc, all working out of illegal boiler rooms. John Beck's programs are fraudulent and it's NOT just a matter of opinion. ALAN: They can take your last penny and feel no guilt or shame. This is why they are doing what they are doing. they are all the same. Listen to Reid and do all you can to get your money back and make sure you tell all your friends and family to simply turn the channel when these "things" are on. REID: They can take your last penny and feel no guilt or shame, because these a$$holes are desperate and the program in which they're promoting is a scam. These trailor park peasants cannot obtain real employement and the business of scamming is very lucrative. Also, it's a known fact that offsprings of two closely related individuals are often born defective. That's the reason why these inbreeds have no conscience and continue to have sex with their own parents. Until next time take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Alan
Saint Paul,#13Consumer Comment
Wed, November 23, 2005
The people like that Jarrod that are part of these mentoring scam bunkers are Socio-Paths. Something is certainly wrong with them, as like normal people these "people" have absolutely no conscience. They can take your last penny and feel no guilt or shame. This is why they are doing what they are doing. they are all the same. Listen to Reid and do all you can to get your money back and make sure you tell all your friends and family to simply turn the channel when these "things" are on. Take care
Chip
Battle Creek,#14Author of original report
Tue, November 22, 2005
Well, since my last post...I recieved a "refund agreement from the Maggots of America, and thought I was gaining ground...however it was just a clever ploy to get my signiture, and in the body of the refund agreement letter was"By issueing this refund.Maggots of America is in no way stating that these monies are not owed nor that the services were not rendered." I sent the letter to my creditcard chargeback dept as evidence, and they said "don't sign it" Also an interesting note from them that they do NOT HONOR VERBAL AGREEMENTS IN A DISPUTE. ...MEANING....they lose and I win. I never signed a contract. Also here is a partial list of everyone I have contacted regarding the scam....the State Police;the FBI; the attourney General; the FTC, The IRS (who were very interested)THE B.B.B; Fraud hotline, Channel 8 news;20-20 Fed-ex Security; Every day I will contact someone new and re-contact someone else. My goal is to ruin this group of assholes, and I will, i promise. Every agency took this websight to reference. I will pursue every leagle avenue, and if nothing happens...then I will pursue illeagle ones. for about 1/10 of what they took me for, I can hire a mexican mafia guy to visit my friend Jerrod.Its no longer about the money, for me ...its justice...and stopping them a.s.a.p by any means at my disposal.
Chip
Battle Creek,#15Author of original report
Tue, November 22, 2005
Well, since my last post...I recieved a "refund agreement from the Maggots of America, and thought I was gaining ground...however it was just a clever ploy to get my signiture, and in the body of the refund agreement letter was"By issueing this refund.Maggots of America is in no way stating that these monies are not owed nor that the services were not rendered." I sent the letter to my creditcard chargeback dept as evidence, and they said "don't sign it" Also an interesting note from them that they do NOT HONOR VERBAL AGREEMENTS IN A DISPUTE. ...MEANING....
Chip
Battle Creek,#16Author of original report
Mon, November 14, 2005
11/13/05 Jerod Stahura, Is Mentors of America's top a*****e. Even dogs run from him with their tales pulled between their legs. Please feel free to call him, and let him know what a hemoroid he is.1-877 704 6346 ext 6346 He would bankrupt you without even a thought about it. Your lose is his gain. Someone in Utah needs to visit him and shatter his kneecaps and sever his p***s. Any offers? He needs to suffer, like the many people who have suffered at his hands. In the end, he will be judged by God...so lets help move him along the way . We want to see him suffer now. If all you can contribute is a phone call....or two or three please join in letting him know what a embodyment of evil scum he is
Reid
Aiea,#17Consumer Suggestion
Sun, November 13, 2005
Hey there Chip, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. CHIP: In an attempt to better our lives, my wife ordered the John Beck Free and Clear real estate system. REID: Unfortunately Chip, people that want to better their lives are perfect targets for these inbreeds. There is absolutely no such thing as legitimate "wealth building" programs being offered to total strangers for anything less than the cost to enroll. More than 97% of all "wealth building" programs, whether advertised on the Internet, via PAID Infomercial, the classifieds, magazines, etc, etc, are scams and it's NOT just a matter of opinion. CHIP: Wow! before we could even review the material, she got a latenight call from Mentors of America. It seems they were looking for a sucess sory in Michigan and if she qualified, it could be her. REID: Wow! These inbreeds make better magicians. They should stop engaging in sexual activities with their own family members, take their trailors and hit the road. CHIP: They asked qualifying questions like "what will you do with your newfound wealth?" Well she answered everything correctly ! (imagine that!) and was told she would get to work directly with Mr. Beck. She would be spoonfed sucess. Guarenteed! REID: Wow! Phychic too? CHIP: After 3 hours of blabbering, they were able to get authorization to max out my creditcard. $9499.00. REID: What a coincidence! The cost to enroll into John Beck's fraudulent program just so happened to be the amount of "available credit" you had. CHIP: We were given a 3-day window to cancel,and a phone number to cancel called the "customer service cancelation line'' REID: Let me guess, no one answered the phone during the 3-day window? Received the run around maybe? Did you accidentally get disconnected on many occassions like I have? CHIP: After some quick serching on the net, I knew we had been scammed. I called and blocked my card, the charge was pending, but not as yet posted. I contacted the State Police, who were happy to call Jerred the heartless p***k 1 877 704 6346 ext 3128 and represent me. REID: The heartless pr!ck that scammed me was Mike Evans. I wonder if this genetic inbreed still pleasures his father for money? CHIP: They were able to acces my account and find out that Jerrad was assigned to my account to try and save it. He is a heartless scum. He just kept telling me it would be a dis-service for me to let you out of this contract! You need to change your life! I wont let you quit! REID: Tell Jerred that he is actually doing you a favor by releasing you from the bogus agreement. Tell Jerred that it is him that needs to change his life, if he does not want to live the rest of his life in fear. I know several people personally, who have killed over petty things, and would not have hesitated for a second to grab this f^ck!ng Jerred and literally twist his head off his body. Tell Jerred that the choice of you quiting is not his. Also tell him that you have disputed the charge with your credit card company and that he should suck rocks. CHIP: Then, the following day, he called to say he could drastically reduce the price, and put me with his best mentor. I told him no. He said ""see you in Court" I said "yes, you will !' REID: Sorry to dissapoint you Chip, but these maggots ARE NOT going to "see you in court", because they ARE NOT going to take you to court. CHIP: My next move is to do a chargeback. 1st thing Monday. This has severly strained my homelife, marrage,and now, no way to buy christmas. My kids tore up there x-mas lists. It made me cry. Scum like this should be eradicated from this earth. REID: I totally agree with you Chip. This scam has ruined my life as well. My mother recently passed away and having $6,400.00 tied up prevented me from carrying out some plans. CHIP: The last call I got from Jerrod, he appologized for not calling me ontime, as his son was in an auto accident, and in stable condition in the hospital. REID: I wouldn't believe this crap. Just one of their stall tactics. These crooks are only interested in stalling long enough to exceed ones right to cancel the fraudulent services. What better way to accomplish this than by "missed appointments?" CHIP: Is God trying to tell you something Jerrod? There will be a special place in Hell for people like this. But I want to see him suffer now! Wish me luck all, and any tips will be appreciated. REID: These guys are suffering right now. They are desperate and that is why they resort to scamming innocent people. Believe me, there are far more people involved with this scam than you would believe. Infomercial companies, credit card companies and even fraudulent law firms/collection agencies to name a few. We'll discuss this at a later time. Until next time, take care Chip cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless. P.S. If you have any questions along the way Chip, do post them and I will respond as soon as I possibly can. Whatever you do, DO NOT be intimidated by this fraudulent company or any one of their fraudulent "collection agencies." You have come to the right website. There are many others who have experienced this crap and are willing to offer good suggestions and support.