Reid
Aiea,#2Consumer Suggestion
Thu, May 05, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. WARNING: There is no person or business marketing legitimate "wealth building" strategies to total strangers for less than the "earning potential" claimed possible. Any and all businesses, that claim otherwise are SCAMS, as it would make absolutely no sense for any business to market such information to total strangers and for such an enormous loss to themselves. But since there are so many inbreeds and degenerates, that are adamant and determined to peddle garbage, I've decided to PROVE beyond any reasonable doubt and in the public eye, that these inbreeds and degenerates are full of $h!t and are committing brazen criminal acts. It makes zero sense for any business to market their "wealth building" strategies to total strangers for less than the "earning potential" claimed possible. EXAMPLE: Mike Evans (result of incest) from the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute claimed that I would be "mentored" to earnings of $10,000.00-$15,000.00 a month. All this and much more for whatever "available credit" on my credit cards? $10,000.00-$15,000.00 a month for only $6,400.00? HERE'S THE DEAL: Since these incestuous maggots insist on giving "moneymaking" secrets away to total strangers and for a loss to themselves, why don't they make payments due them contingent upon one profiting from the use of their program? Yeeeah! A 50/50 split sounds reasonable. Any business that were truly able to yeild someone the kind of profits the John Beck Inbreed Team claims would definitely agree to a "contingent upon" profiting deal. 50% of something is a whole lot better than 100% of nothing. HERE'S MY OPEN CHALLENGE TO ANY AND ALL CLAIMING TO BE MARKETING REAL ESTATE MENTORING PROGRAMS: Since these inbreeds are so adamant about sharing their "wealth ideas" with total strangers and for a loss, I've decided to sweeten the deal. I invite any one of these incestuous beings to come forward in the public eye and purchase a single family dwelling for me in my area. THE SIMPLE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS CHALLENGE ARE AS FOLLOWS: 1. The property must be located in my hometown (with such an abundance of these properties throughout the United States, this request would pose no problem for any legitimate business.) 2. The property and dwelling must be absolutely Free and Clear of all leins, encumberances, taxes and right of redemtion. Free and clear title in short. 3. The property must be located in a decent neighborhood, one of the following areas would be ideal, however negotiable; Aiea, Newtown, Royal Summit, Kahala, Pearl City, Kapolei, Waikiki, Kailua, Kaneohe, Diamond Head, Liliha, Moanalua Valley, Salt Lake, Moanalua Gardens, Kalama Valley, Waialae Ike, Kaimuki, Mililani Mauka, Waipio Gentry, Waikele, Royal Kunia, Hawaii Kai, Alewa Heights, Mililani Town, Ewa Beach (with such an abundance of these properties throughout the United States, this request would pose no problem for any legitimate business.) 4. The dwelling must be clean and in decent living condition (with such an abundance of these properties throughout the United States, this request would pose no problem for any legitimate business.) 5. The home should have at least 4 bedrooms and 3 full baths (with such an abundance of these properties throughout the United States, this request would pose no problem for any legitimate business.) 6. The home must have at least 4000 square feet of living area under the roof and must also possess a decent sized yard (with such an abundance of these properties throughout the United States, this request would pose no problem for any legitimate business.) 7. The property shall not exceed $10,000.00 (NOTICE: $10,000.00 is a much higher figure than the average $500.00-$1,000.00 homes featured on John Beck's fraudulent Infomercial). Upon inspection of said property by myself, a hired Realtor and Attorney, and acceptence, I agree to pay 10x the amount in cash (not to exceed $100,000.00) and in the public eye for all to see. My criteria is very straight forward and my willingness to pay 10x the purchase price in the public eye, to anyone interested in taking on this challenge would yeild them much more profit than the average persons "available line of credit." I have listed twenty five different neighborhoods and have provided an excellent opportunity for any one of the many inbreeds to possibly make a $97,000.00 profit in the public eye, and finally PROVE their program worthy of marketing. The terms and conditions of the offer is well in their favor. CAN I MAKE THE CHALLENGE ANY F%CK!NG EASIER?!?! I F%CK!NG ADDED FOUR MORE AREAS TO MY LIST OF ACCEPTABLE LOCATIONS! HAWAII'S NOT THAT BIG YOU F%CK!NG INBREEDS! WHAT'S TAKING SO LONG TO FIND ME A PROPERTY? I'M OFFERING ANY ONE OF YOU INBREEDS 10X THE PURCHASE PRICE, WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN WHAT YOU CHARGE THE AVERAGE PERSON FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT PROGRAM! Any and all that fail to accept this EASY challenge are wothless scum and anything and everything they may say regarding this open challenge are just excuses commonly made by inbreeds commiting blatant FRAUD. Until next time, take care cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Joann
Sacramento,#3Consumer Suggestion
Thu, May 05, 2005
Hi Sharon: My name is JoAnn. I'm sorry you fell victim to this scam. I have yet to meet someone who paid more than I did. I was charged $13960.00, exactly the amount of credit I had available on my Master Card. I got them to agree IN WRITING two times to refund the money, and not dispute the reversal of charges my credit card company gave me, and they still sent my account to collections. They authorized a full refund, then sent $7600 to collections citing the 3 20 minute phone calls (that were supposed to be 30 minute calls) and the 1 missed call, which comes to something like $95.00 a minute to speak with a "mentor" who did little more than refer me to a website called bid4assets.com, a real joke. I have now involved an attorney in Los Angeles who is a consumer advocate! Many of us on this site have attempted to contact all the media you mentioned, with no results. Please go ahead and try yourself. Maybe they'll get the hint once they hear from the literally hundreds of ripped off people that have been scamed by John Beck/Mentoring of America. Please keep us posted, as I am printing all of the complaints against this company as evidence for my attorney.
Reid
Aiea,#4Consumer Suggestion
Tue, May 03, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. Have you heard of my latest telephone "mentoring" program? It's my new "how to rid yourself of headaches" program. For whatever amount I'm able to squeeze out of ones "available line of credit", I'll walk them throught a complete step by step process on how they to, can illiminate unwanted headaches. He or she will learn everything from how to get to their local pharmacy and select the right over the counter meds. All this and much much more! If you are interested in this revolutionary break through program, or any one of my many other "full of $h!t "mentoring" programs, contact me through a rebuttal and have your credit card handy. JUST FEW OF MY MANY OTHER WONDERFUL MENTORING PROGRAMS: 1. How To Wipe Your A$$ 2. How To Do Your Laundry 3. Simple Meals 4. How To Retrieve E-Mail 5. Real Estate 6. Self Breast Examination 7. Self p***s Examination 8. How To Save Money 9. How To swim. 10. Truck Driving 11. Kama Sutra 12. Tantra 13. How To Play The violin 14. How To Play The Piano 15. How To Play The Guitar 16. How To Play The Harp 17. How To Play The Drums 18. Vocals 19. How To Fish 20. How To Increase Stamina 21. How To Play Baseball 22. The Rules Of Baseball 23. How To Play Football 24. The Rules Of Football 25. How To Smash An Imbreeds Head 26. Scuba Diving 27. Home Design 28. How To Become A Wedding Planner 29. Fan Repair 30. Religion and much much much much more! Am I talented or what? Purchase any one of these programs for only $39.99 + S&H, and I'll be more than happy to send you a book I purchased from Borders, or retrieved off the Internet for FREE, regarding the topic you're interested in. If you are of the many, that are too lazy to retrieve this FREE information from your local library, or off the Internet, than my programs are definitely for you. I'll even throw in one on one "mentoring" if you'll agree to max out your credit card(s) for my telephone "mentoring" service. LOL. ADDED BONUS: Order two or more of my programs and receive my "Internationally Known" telephone sex "mentoring" program absolutely FREE. Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#5Consumer Suggestion
Tue, May 03, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. WARNING: There's no such thing as legitimate "mentoring" or "coaching" programs of any kind via telephone converstaions. Any program claiming to be providing these services are ALL scams! How do I know this? Well, the FREE information regarding these topics provided on the Internet and in medical encyclopedias tell me so. If you do not have these sources readily available to you, contact me and I'll sure to beat whatever these imbreeds wish to charge you for their fraudulent "mentoring" programs. My dad had seen an advertisement regarding a FREE cassette tape regarding ATTACKING ANXIETY. I told him that I'd call to inquire since I know just how f%ck!ng dirty businesses can be. Sure enough, just as the fraudulent John Beck Imbreed team does and the many other degenerates peddling $h!t do, she tried to sell me on fraudulent "coaching." NOT SO F%CK!NG FREE AFTER ALL EH? I wanted so bad to sell her on my "coaching." Pick one BIAAACH!! Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#6Consumer Suggestion
Tue, May 03, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. Due to many typos, I have felt it necessary to repost my latest rebuttal warning the public about the newest "mentoring" scam. WARNING: The newest in bull$h!t "mentoring" programs. ATTACKING ANXIETY & DEPRESSION! LMAO at these imbreeds. I have news for these result of incest beings, they're called f%ck!ng DOCTORS!!! ATTACKING ANXIETY & DEPRESSION via telephone mentoring? Sounds almost as good as my telephone sex mentoring program. LMAO. Do they now offer ATTACKING ATHLETES FOOT "mentoring" programs? What about ANNIHILATING ASTMHA? LOL. Since when are we able to get "mentored" regarding medical issues? Does medical insurance cover this bull$h!t? What about BEATING ONES MEAT "mentoring" programs? Oh, I forgot, they already have these. It's called phone sex. LOL. What about telephone math "mentoring" programs? What about how to wipe your a$$ "mentoring" programs? What about why Mike Evan's family outta really consider stopping the incest "mentoring" programs? Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless. F%CK YOU MIKE EVANS, YOU GENETIC IMBREED!
Reid
Aiea,#7Consumer Suggestion
Mon, May 02, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. WARNING: The newest in bull$h!t "mentoring" programs. ATTACKING ANXIETY & DEPRESSION! LMAO at these imbreeds. I have news for these result of incest beings, their called f%ck!ng DOCTORS!!! ATTACKING ANXIETY & DEPRESSION via telephone mentoring? Sounds almost as good as my telephone sex mentoring program. LMAO. Do they now offer ATTACKING ATHLETES FOOT "mentoring" programs? What about ANHIALATING ASMHA? Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#8Consumer Suggestion
Mon, May 02, 2005
Hey there Everyone, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. WARNING: There's no such thing as businesses marketing legitimate "wealth building" strategies to total strangers for less than the "earning potential" claimed posible. These moneymaking programs are all scams! EXAMPLE: John Beck's (result of incest) Infomercial claims to instruct ordinary people on how to obtain distressed Real Estate for pennies on the dollar. All for just $39.99 plus shipping??? F%CK!NG RESULT OF INCEST b*****d! Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#9Consumer Suggestion
Sun, May 01, 2005
Hey there Sharene, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. SHARENE: In the State of Utah, no matter WHAT those idiots try to scare you into believing over at John Becks' Mentoring of America, you have 3 days to cancel your purchase. REID: In most states if not all, no matter WHAT those idiots try to scare one into believing over at John Beck's Mentoring of America, victims have 3 days to cancel their purchases. Even if the 3 days in which to cancel were to expire, the many victims of John Beck's Mentoring of America have many recourses available to them. 1. Filing criminal reports based on fraud, with various government and law enforcement agencies. 2. Disputing the fraudulent charge(s) with their credit card companies. 3. Multiple class action or individual lawsuits based on fraud and a few other criminal activities, etc, etc. John Beck's program is a SCAM and it's not even just my opinion. There is absolutely nothing REAL about his program or any other "wealth building" programs, or someone would have came forward a long time ago to PROVE me wrong. SHARENE: Their tactics are to borderline threaten people into believing that they are liable because they verbally agreed to a "no refund policy"; however, I called them back within a few hours to inform them that they could shove it, and that I wasn't signing or accepting anything they sent. REID: John Beck's team of imbreeds flat out threatens people. To suggest that John Beck's team of imbreeds borderline threatens people, would be the same as suggesting that their program is borderline fraudulent. There's no fine line here. Mike Evans's (king "result of incest") threatened to sue me, if I ever decided to go forward with my dispute. Well guess what? I disputed the fraudulent charges and never even received a letter from John Beck's fraudulent collection agency EPN. SHARENE: After, no kidding, 2 hours of them trying to rudely tell us what we had verbally agreed to this scam, and saying that he (Jared Stahura - Head Schemer), I reminded him of the Utah law that states I have 3 days to cancel my purchase,and told him he could waste his time fighting it because my card companies were already aware of what was happening and if the charges went through and we disputed it, that we would get our money back and they would be affected negatively. He finally said that he didn't want people that weren't "motivated" on his team and that he would not proceed with the charges. REID: Yes these degenerates are very rude. "Affected negatively" however, is putting it very lightly. Someone, somewhere, someday will definitely need to go to jail for this SCAM. SHARENE: So, as of right now, the charges have not been processed, but they are still in approval status with Discover and AMEX. The companies told us that they have 14 days to process the charge, so we'll see what happens within the next 14 days. I hope they are smart enough to know that we are going to win this thing, as we cancelled within the allotted time period by their state law, AND we have not signed anything, nor recieved any products, and if we do, we will not accept them or open them. REID: Know, that I have received John Beck's garbage, opened the boxes, used John Beck's garbage, realized that what I had been receiving as far as service was a far cry from what has been agreed upon, disputed the charges on the disguised "quality of service" option and easily won a favorable decision. SHARENE: I'll let you know if anything other than what we expect happens within the 14 days they have to proceed with the charges. REID: Keep Everyone informed of your progress. SHARENE: GOD BLESS... Until next time, take care Sharene cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#10Consumer Suggestion
Sun, May 01, 2005
Hey there Sharene, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. SHARENE: In the State of Utah, no matter WHAT those idiots try to scare you into believing over at John Becks' Mentoring of America, you have 3 days to cancel your purchase. REID: In most states if not all, no matter WHAT those idiots try to scare one into believing over at John Beck's Mentoring of America, victims have 3 days to cancel their purchases. Even if the 3 days in which to cancel were to expire, the many victims of John Beck's Mentoring of America have many recourses available to them. 1. Filing criminal reports based on fraud, with various government and law enforcement agencies. 2. Disputing the fraudulent charge(s) with their credit card companies. 3. Multiple class action or individual lawsuits based on fraud and a few other criminal activities, etc, etc. John Beck's program is a SCAM and it's not even just my opinion. There is absolutely nothing REAL about his program or any other "wealth building" programs, or someone would have came forward a long time ago to PROVE me wrong. SHARENE: Their tactics are to borderline threaten people into believing that they are liable because they verbally agreed to a "no refund policy"; however, I called them back within a few hours to inform them that they could shove it, and that I wasn't signing or accepting anything they sent. REID: John Beck's team of imbreeds flat out threatens people. To suggest that John Beck's team of imbreeds borderline threatens people, would be the same as suggesting that their program is borderline fraudulent. There's no fine line here. Mike Evans's (king "result of incest") threatened to sue me, if I ever decided to go forward with my dispute. Well guess what? I disputed the fraudulent charges and never even received a letter from John Beck's fraudulent collection agency EPN. SHARENE: After, no kidding, 2 hours of them trying to rudely tell us what we had verbally agreed to this scam, and saying that he (Jared Stahura - Head Schemer), I reminded him of the Utah law that states I have 3 days to cancel my purchase,and told him he could waste his time fighting it because my card companies were already aware of what was happening and if the charges went through and we disputed it, that we would get our money back and they would be affected negatively. He finally said that he didn't want people that weren't "motivated" on his team and that he would not proceed with the charges. REID: Yes these degenerates are very rude. "Affected negatively" however, is putting it very lightly. Someone, somewhere, someday will definitely need to go to jail for this SCAM. SHARENE: So, as of right now, the charges have not been processed, but they are still in approval status with Discover and AMEX. The companies told us that they have 14 days to process the charge, so we'll see what happens within the next 14 days. I hope they are smart enough to know that we are going to win this thing, as we cancelled within the allotted time period by their state law, AND we have not signed anything, nor recieved any products, and if we do, we will not accept them or open them. REID: Know, that I have received John Beck's garbage, opened the boxes, used John Beck's garbage, realized that what I had been receiving as far as service was a far cry from what has been agreed upon, disputed the charges on the disguised "quality of service" option and easily won a favorable decision. SHARENE: I'll let you know if anything other than what we expect happens within the 14 days they have to proceed with the charges. REID: Keep Everyone informed of your progress. SHARENE: GOD BLESS... Until next time, take care Sharene cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#11Consumer Suggestion
Sun, May 01, 2005
Hey there Sharene, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. SHARENE: In the State of Utah, no matter WHAT those idiots try to scare you into believing over at John Becks' Mentoring of America, you have 3 days to cancel your purchase. REID: In most states if not all, no matter WHAT those idiots try to scare one into believing over at John Beck's Mentoring of America, victims have 3 days to cancel their purchases. Even if the 3 days in which to cancel were to expire, the many victims of John Beck's Mentoring of America have many recourses available to them. 1. Filing criminal reports based on fraud, with various government and law enforcement agencies. 2. Disputing the fraudulent charge(s) with their credit card companies. 3. Multiple class action or individual lawsuits based on fraud and a few other criminal activities, etc, etc. John Beck's program is a SCAM and it's not even just my opinion. There is absolutely nothing REAL about his program or any other "wealth building" programs, or someone would have came forward a long time ago to PROVE me wrong. SHARENE: Their tactics are to borderline threaten people into believing that they are liable because they verbally agreed to a "no refund policy"; however, I called them back within a few hours to inform them that they could shove it, and that I wasn't signing or accepting anything they sent. REID: John Beck's team of imbreeds flat out threatens people. To suggest that John Beck's team of imbreeds borderline threatens people, would be the same as suggesting that their program is borderline fraudulent. There's no fine line here. Mike Evans's (king "result of incest") threatened to sue me, if I ever decided to go forward with my dispute. Well guess what? I disputed the fraudulent charges and never even received a letter from John Beck's fraudulent collection agency EPN. SHARENE: After, no kidding, 2 hours of them trying to rudely tell us what we had verbally agreed to this scam, and saying that he (Jared Stahura - Head Schemer), I reminded him of the Utah law that states I have 3 days to cancel my purchase,and told him he could waste his time fighting it because my card companies were already aware of what was happening and if the charges went through and we disputed it, that we would get our money back and they would be affected negatively. He finally said that he didn't want people that weren't "motivated" on his team and that he would not proceed with the charges. REID: Yes these degenerates are very rude. "Affected negatively" however, is putting it very lightly. Someone, somewhere, someday will definitely need to go to jail for this SCAM. SHARENE: So, as of right now, the charges have not been processed, but they are still in approval status with Discover and AMEX. The companies told us that they have 14 days to process the charge, so we'll see what happens within the next 14 days. I hope they are smart enough to know that we are going to win this thing, as we cancelled within the allotted time period by their state law, AND we have not signed anything, nor recieved any products, and if we do, we will not accept them or open them. REID: Know, that I have received John Beck's garbage, opened the boxes, used John Beck's garbage, realized that what I had been receiving as far as service was a far cry from what has been agreed upon, disputed the charges on the disguised "quality of service" option and easily won a favorable decision. SHARENE: I'll let you know if anything other than what we expect happens within the 14 days they have to proceed with the charges. REID: Keep Everyone informed of your progress. SHARENE: GOD BLESS... Until next time, take care Sharene cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Sharene
Wichita Falls,#12Author of original report
Sun, May 01, 2005
In the State of Utah, no matter WHAT those idiots try to scare you into believing over at John Becks' Mentoring of America, you have 3 days to cancel your purchase. Their tactics are to borderline threaten people into believing that they are liable because they verbally agreed to a "no refund policy"; however, I called them back within a few hours to inform them that they could shove it, and that I wasn't signing or accepting anything they sent. After, no kidding, 2 hours of them trying to rudely tell us what we had verbally agreed to this scam, and saying that he (Jared Stahura - Head Schemer), I reminded him of the Utah law that states I have 3 days to cancel my purchase,and told him he could waste his time fighting it because my card companies were already aware of what was happening and if the charges went through and we disputed it, that we would get our money back and they would be affected negatively. He finally said that he didn't want people that weren't "motivated" on his team and that he would not proceed with the charges. So, as of right now, the charges have not been processed, but they are still in approval status with Discover and AMEX. The companies told us that they have 14 days to process the charge, so we'll see what happens within the next 14 days. I hope they are smart enough to know that we are going to win this thing, as we cancelled within the allotted time period by their state law, AND we have not signed anything, nor recieved any products, and if we do, we will not accept them or open them. I'll let you know if anything other than what we expect happens within the 14 days they have to proceed with the charges. GOD BLESS...
Al
Spirit Lake,#13Consumer Comment
Sun, May 01, 2005
Hi Jason and Sharene Do as you thought do not sign or execpt any thing from them. Doucument eveything possible. It is likely they use toll free numbers; If you choose to send them anything, send certified with return. Get transmission reports of any fax. Have others around you get involved if possible and wittness and beable to testify if needed. Have some one record, or you record phone calls if you feel they involve fraud. Make sure you dispute it with the card companies in writen form. You may want to also document mailings of this if needed for latter uses. Look at the consumer protection laws in the state of Utah if you feel this is the correct place. Do as Reid suggests and file your reports with the various agencies. Even though we think our card companies may help with this type of problem they may not. I am not an attorney so this is just a few suggestions that may help. Good luck and may God Bless and give you a helping hand. Al
Reid
Aiea,#14Consumer Suggestion
Wed, April 27, 2005
Hey there Sharene, I hope that this rebuttal finds you and your husband Jason in good spirits and health. Contact your credit card company immediately and notify them of your interest in disputing the charge(s) based on FRAUD. Your credit card company will more than likely recommend, that you base your dispute on their disquised "quality of services", regardless of the fact your credit card company deliberately authorized the charges, while already aware of John Beck's program as being fraudulent. I suggest you just go ahead and play along with your credit card company's stupid song and dance (aiding and abetting in FRAUD), as it will make the dispute process a lot easier on yourself. Being ignorant of the law is no protection and that goes for credit card companies (bureaucracies) as well. When time permits, file complaints on Noel Winters from the fraudulent John Beck Imbreed Team on basis of FRAUD and EXTORTION. Contact the FBI, The Federal Trades Commission, The Department Of Consumer Protection, The Department Of Commerce and Consumer Affairs and the Attorney General's Office in your hometown to file multiple complaints. Until next time, take care Sharene and Jason cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
Reid
Aiea,#15Consumer Suggestion
Wed, April 27, 2005
Hey there Sharene, I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health. I'd like to start off by welcoming you and your husband to the club of many, that have already been duped by this fraudulent company. This program is without a doubt fraudulent. 1. Contact your credit card company immediately and dispute the charge. 2. Contact Noel Winters and explain to him, that you are interested in making it real simple. Either he refunds your money, or personally gets reported to the FBI on grounds of FRAUD. 3. File complaints with the FBI, The Federal Trade Commission, The Department Of Consumer Protection, and The Department Of Commerce And Consumer Affairs. Until next time, take care Sharene cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless. Keep in touch.