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  • Report:  #346756

Complaint Review: Just Brakes - Tempe Arizona

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- Tempe, Arizona,
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Just Brakes
455 W. Broadway Rd Tempe, 85282 Arizona, U.S.A.
Phone:
480-736-0113
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I knew that the $100 deal to do an entire brake job was too good to be true. I was right. It's nothing more than a bait and switch and probably illegal. Sounds like business as usual for Just Brakes, judging by everything I've read here and based on what actually happened to me.

Similar to the other accounts on this site, they told me I needed all sorts of repairs and work done to my brake system. I ended up declining ALL their suggestions and got my car back, took it to another auto shop (who I know to be truthful and reliable) and they laughed. "We see this every single time with Just Brakes," said the mechanic. "They get you in for $100 and use fear tactics to make you think you need to have other work done, when in fact nothing is wrong."

These are the lies Just Brakes told me followed by what the real mechanic determined. Quoted items are taken verbatim from the Just Brakes written estimate (which, by the way, they resisted giving to me once I declined the service!)

1.Front pads are "cracked and flaking" proven untrue. 60% of the life is left on them and they are not cracked or flaking in any way. I saw them.

2.Calipers have "pistons sticking" proven untrue. Calipers and pistons in perfect working condition.

3.Rear left pad not contacting the rotor proven untrue. This ties in with the caliper/piston lie.

So when they called me with all the 'bad news", they said they'd need to do it all to make the car safe to drive. They wanted to charge me a total of $761. I told them forget it and not to do ANY work at all. They called me back 10 minutes later, saying "Well I talked to the manager and we can knock off $40 by giving you a bleed, fill and adjust for free." I declined again and went to get the car before they "found" something else wrong with it. When I picked it up they had the nerve to say, "We're the cheapest place around, you know." I actually laughed in his face. The grandest lie of all, saved for the very end.

STAY AWAY from Just Brakes and take your vehicle to a reliable mechanic. I am saving over $400. Tell your friends, family and anyone who'll listen that Just Brakes is a big fat lying ripoff!

Unbreakable

Tempe, Arizona

U.S.A.


19 Updates & Rebuttals

Joe

Atco,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Im not sure

#2Consumer Comment

Fri, August 08, 2008

Im not sure about the MAP, but I do know that to be a member in good standing with the BBB is write the check. They are almost as big of scam artists as Just Brakes.


Joe

Atco,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Im not sure

#3Consumer Comment

Fri, August 08, 2008

Im not sure about the MAP, but I do know that to be a member in good standing with the BBB is write the check. They are almost as big of scam artists as Just Brakes.


Joe

Atco,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Im not sure

#4Consumer Comment

Fri, August 08, 2008

Im not sure about the MAP, but I do know that to be a member in good standing with the BBB is write the check. They are almost as big of scam artists as Just Brakes.


Joe

Atco,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Im not sure

#5Consumer Comment

Fri, August 08, 2008

Im not sure about the MAP, but I do know that to be a member in good standing with the BBB is write the check. They are almost as big of scam artists as Just Brakes.


Just Brakes Lead Tech

Waco,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Joe

#6UPDATE Employee

Wed, August 06, 2008

I really hate to say this, but you are dead wrong about European rotors not being machinable, maybe you should check with your local parts house and get a rotor and drum spec book, or check with your local dealerships and ask them. We inform the customer what is required to repair thier brake system to proper operating condition, whether they choose to fix it or not is up to them, we cannot force people to fix thier vehicles. I guess that when you tell a customer what is wrong with thier vehicle you can force them to fix it. We give the customer the information they need to make an informed decision to fix thier vehicle. We are a MAP accredited company, and we are a BBB accredited company, so obviously we can know what we are doing.


Just Brakes Lead Tech

Waco,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Joe

#7UPDATE Employee

Wed, August 06, 2008

I really hate to say this, but you are dead wrong about European rotors not being machinable, maybe you should check with your local parts house and get a rotor and drum spec book, or check with your local dealerships and ask them. We inform the customer what is required to repair thier brake system to proper operating condition, whether they choose to fix it or not is up to them, we cannot force people to fix thier vehicles. I guess that when you tell a customer what is wrong with thier vehicle you can force them to fix it. We give the customer the information they need to make an informed decision to fix thier vehicle. We are a MAP accredited company, and we are a BBB accredited company, so obviously we can know what we are doing.


Just Brakes Lead Tech

Waco,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Joe

#8UPDATE Employee

Wed, August 06, 2008

I really hate to say this, but you are dead wrong about European rotors not being machinable, maybe you should check with your local parts house and get a rotor and drum spec book, or check with your local dealerships and ask them. We inform the customer what is required to repair thier brake system to proper operating condition, whether they choose to fix it or not is up to them, we cannot force people to fix thier vehicles. I guess that when you tell a customer what is wrong with thier vehicle you can force them to fix it. We give the customer the information they need to make an informed decision to fix thier vehicle. We are a MAP accredited company, and we are a BBB accredited company, so obviously we can know what we are doing.


Just Brakes Lead Tech

Waco,
Texas,
U.S.A.
Joe

#9UPDATE Employee

Wed, August 06, 2008

I really hate to say this, but you are dead wrong about European rotors not being machinable, maybe you should check with your local parts house and get a rotor and drum spec book, or check with your local dealerships and ask them. We inform the customer what is required to repair thier brake system to proper operating condition, whether they choose to fix it or not is up to them, we cannot force people to fix thier vehicles. I guess that when you tell a customer what is wrong with thier vehicle you can force them to fix it. We give the customer the information they need to make an informed decision to fix thier vehicle. We are a MAP accredited company, and we are a BBB accredited company, so obviously we can know what we are doing.


Joe

Atco,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
OK Mr. Lead Tech

#10Consumer Comment

Sun, August 03, 2008

I see you have been busy all over this site trying to put out fires.......LOL In your earlier post you claim 98% get the special, yea right!!! You know full well that that is a BULLS#@*T statement. I have to seriously question your knowledge of brakes if you say that German rotors can now be cut, another lie....LOL. To answer your question, we get 129.95 per axel for a reline and resurfacing the rotors using a top of the line pad (ceramic if called for) Wagner, Bendix, Akebono, etc. Cleaning and lubing backing plates (where applicable) cleaning and lubing caliper slides and hardware where needed. I know its not as cheap as your shwanky 99.88 special, but its honest and done properly with no deceptions. Yes we do sell other parts when needed, but only when the old part is no good any more. Unlike your company that goes for the BIG SLAM every job. Maybe you can answer me this Batman? Why is your company the leader on this website with 410 complaints to date, and climbing if your company is so honest? Are they all wrong? Joe


Just Brakes Lead Tech

Waco,
Texas,
U.S.A.
OK JOE

#11UPDATE Employee

Thu, July 24, 2008

Here are some facts for you, we do the $99.88 on about 98% of the vehicles that come into our shop, our pads are not cheap pads, we get a better deal because we buy in very high quantities, that is what happens when there are 150 plus stores in a company. No we do not tell people that their rotors can not be machined, as most of the European car manufacturers have changed thier rotors so that they can be machined. We are the largest privately held brake specialty shop in the country. By the way we offer the $99.88 for all four wheels to encourage people to do thier brakes properly. Tell me what do you charge for a four wheel friction reline?


Joe

Atco,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
OK Mr. Lead Tech

#12Consumer Suggestion

Thu, July 24, 2008

Ok Mr. Lead Tech, Yes I do tell customers that call asking for a price to repair their brakes on a German car that the rotors cant be resurfaced, its called being honest. Something that you admitted by your earlier statement that you are not. Yes I agree that SOME of your pads probably cost you 45-50 dollars, but that extra cost is just passed on to the consumer. The rest of your pads are probably the 12.00$ cheapo specials. I would love to really know the percentage of cars that escape your shop with the 99.00 special, I would guess 1-2% at best. And by the way Mr Lead Tech, its not just me badmouthing you, if you havent checked lately you have 375 reports on the RIPPED OFF report and that does not include the people that chimed in that got fleeced at your RIP OFF shops. Do a little research yourself, your company is the most reported company (and I use that work loosely) on this site. Mine by the way has no complaints on this site. Joe


Just Brakes Lead Tech

Waco,
Texas,
U.S.A.
OK Joe

#13UPDATE Employee

Wed, July 23, 2008

You are going to tell me that you tell people who drive BMW's Benz's and VW's that thier rotors can not be cut up front, I do not believe that. Do you also tell them that the hardware should be changed when they do the brakes. We install a good set of pads in every vehicle we work on, I would like to know how you figure that our $99.88 friction reline is a bait and switch tactic, we tell the customers on the phone that this includes inspecting the balance of the brake system. We machine rotors and drums as long as they are within specs, Just Brakes is not a franchise, it is a Corporation that is opening stores every month with its own money. I feel good about the way I treat my customers, and I treat everyone of them the way I would want to be treated which is fairly and honestly. People like you are the reason that the Automotive industry has a bad name, you bad mouth a company that you know nothing about, Just Brakes has been doing business for over 25 years, and in the Last 15 years they have never increased the price for a friction reline. By the way some of our pads cost us $45.00 to $50.00 dollars, but we still have the lowest price, and the best warranty in the industry.


Joe

Atco,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
OK JB

#14Consumer Comment

Wed, July 23, 2008

Ok JB i'll ask you the question. Ive been the owner of a pretty successful auto repair shop for the past 20 years. In those 20 years I have tried all different brands and quality of brake pads. At this point a good set of pads (Bendix IQ, Wagner ThermoQuiet, Raybestos OS, Akibono etc) go for about 45.00 a set, some of the German and Euro cars are more. What junk are you installing that enables you to install pads front and rear, machine rotors, repack bearings and still charge 99.00 and make a profit? The answer is "your not" The 99.00 is just a simple bait and switch. Do you tell the customers with BMWs and Benzs and VWs that their rotors cant be cut over the phone or do you get the car in and take it apart and then tell them, or are you honest upfront? Do you even cut rotors? You know as well as I do that your tactics are BS and lies. Its people and franchises like yours that make this a tough buissness to be in. People like you give customers the perception that we are all thieves and not honest. Well i'll tell you what, I sleep very good at night knowing that I treat my customers fairly and honestly. I might not do the gross dollars that a Shwanky operation like yours does but I feel real good about myself and my buissness at the end of the work day that im not ripping people off.


Jb Lead Tech

Waco,
Texas,
U.S.A.
$99.88 not an entire brake job

#15UPDATE Employee

Sat, July 19, 2008

Just Brakes $99.88 Friction Reline is not an entire Brake Job. The $99.88 Friction Reline is Replacing the front and rear disc pads or brake shoes, maching rotors and drums, packing the bearings and Inspecting the balance of the Brake system for any other problems. This is not an entire Brake job, that is why Just Brakes inspects the Balance of the brake system for any other problems, as there are several components that can and do go bad.


Joe

Atco,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
And you really think

#16Consumer Suggestion

Wed, July 09, 2008

Sorry Bud but I never said nor claimed to know everything. I simply stated that your were cheap and I stand by it. You could have went to and I quote "a mechanic who I know to be truthful and reliable" unquote. Why didnt you go to the guy that you know to be truthful and reliable? The guy that has worked hard to build a good reputation? The guy that doesnt lie and not get your car repaired? I know why. Because your cheap and really thought that you could get a four wheel brake job for 99.00, thats why. Anyone that even has a little clue knows that a good set of brake pads (Bendix, Wagner Thermoquiets etc.) cost a repair shop minimun 35-40 dollars a set. And to that another 1.5 hours to break it down and machine all 4 rotors. I will ask you again because you failed to answer it the first time. Did you really think that you would get a 99.00 4 wheel brake job? Do you really want a 99.00 brake job? Would you put someone that you cared about in a car that just got a 99.00 brake job? I personally think most people would answer no, no and no.


Unbreakable

Tempe,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
The Jersey mechanic knows it all

#17Author of original report

Mon, July 07, 2008

In response to the New Jersey mechanic who is so "perplexed" at why someone would try to save money.... Here's why: Gas is $4 a gallon, grocery prices are the highest they've been, my utilities and mortgage are steadily climbing up and up and my paycheck is the same. Look around at everyone on the edge of bankruptcy, foreclosure or financial hardships of one kind or another. And you're "perplexed" that someone is looking to catch a break on auto repairs? You call me "cheap", as if you know me or have any idea what I do to make ends meet. Not everyone can always afford the best, Mr. Mechanic. But everyone does deserve to be treated honestly and fairly and not misled or ripped off. Wouldn't you agree? Perhaps it's overpriced auto repair shops that are half the reason people go to look for less expensive alternatives in the first place.


Unbreakable

Tempe,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
The Jersey mechanic knows it all

#18Author of original report

Mon, July 07, 2008

In response to the New Jersey mechanic who is so "perplexed" at why someone would try to save money.... Here's why: Gas is $4 a gallon, grocery prices are the highest they've been, my utilities and mortgage are steadily climbing up and up and my paycheck is the same. Look around at everyone on the edge of bankruptcy, foreclosure or financial hardships of one kind or another. And you're "perplexed" that someone is looking to catch a break on auto repairs? You call me "cheap", as if you know me or have any idea what I do to make ends meet. Not everyone can always afford the best, Mr. Mechanic. But everyone does deserve to be treated honestly and fairly and not misled or ripped off. Wouldn't you agree? Perhaps it's overpriced auto repair shops that are half the reason people go to look for less expensive alternatives in the first place.


Unbreakable

Tempe,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
The Jersey mechanic knows it all

#19Author of original report

Mon, July 07, 2008

In response to the New Jersey mechanic who is so "perplexed" at why someone would try to save money.... Here's why: Gas is $4 a gallon, grocery prices are the highest they've been, my utilities and mortgage are steadily climbing up and up and my paycheck is the same. Look around at everyone on the edge of bankruptcy, foreclosure or financial hardships of one kind or another. And you're "perplexed" that someone is looking to catch a break on auto repairs? You call me "cheap", as if you know me or have any idea what I do to make ends meet. Not everyone can always afford the best, Mr. Mechanic. But everyone does deserve to be treated honestly and fairly and not misled or ripped off. Wouldn't you agree? Perhaps it's overpriced auto repair shops that are half the reason people go to look for less expensive alternatives in the first place.


Joe

Atco,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Why shop around

#20Consumer Comment

Thu, July 03, 2008

I am the owner of an auto repair shop for the last 20 years and this sort of thing has always perplexed me. Why if in your own words you took the car to an honest and reliable repair shop AFTER you went to the cheapo joint. Why not go to the reputable place first? Auto repairs are like anything else out there. You can shop around for the cheapest price and go there. When you get there what do you really expect? A 99.00 brake job? Do you really want a 99.00 complete brake job? Just how good do you really think a 99.00 brake job can be? Its cheap people like you that keep those half assed places in buissness. Why not just go to the honest reliable guy that will sell you just what you need at a fair price? Just remember that with auto repairs just like anything else "you get what you pay for"

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