Complaint Review: Mike Thompson RV - Santa Fe Springs California

 Predelivery inspection before the sale.. I believe that when you buy a motorhome be prepared to be a victim of the RV industry.. Think about it for second when you go past a RV dealership and look at all the motorhomes for sale and hardly any customers on the lot what is that a sign of ? In many cases sales people are desperate to make a sale regardless of the troubles that you have to deal with after you take your unit home.. I have never heard of an RV dealership ever providing the customer with the predelivery inspection sheet that shows that the LP gas system has been completely checked out to make sure that there are no leaks and what are the monitoring operating pressures on the output side of the LP gas regulator They don’t want you to be a informed consumer they don’t want you to know what to look out for because if you did know you probably wouldn’t buy the motorhome...

I challenge anybody to go to an RV dealership of your choice and meet a sales rep and get a Business card from them. Save that business card the next time you come to the dealership see if that sales rep still works there. Many sales reps in the RV industry or like gypsies trust me I know what I’m talking about. Here today gone tomorrow. There’s no commitment in the industry to anyone.. I tell people when you plan to buy a motorhome the first place you should look after you know exactly what you’re looking for go to RV storage lights in the ask the storage lot manager if there are any RVs in the storage facility that are for sale. That’s where you’re going to get your best deal with comes to price.. those people are tired of paying the monthly storage bill and most of them don’t use their motorhomes anymore...

When you go to an RV show and sale be prepared to meet with the sharks in the industry... I do not know of an RV dealership that’s going to send their green pea sales reps to the RV show and sale.. they send the sharks the ruthless that have the ability to chew you up and spit you out before even know what happened to you... Do not doubt me on this if you owned an RV dealership and you were going to send a couple of hundred motor homes to the football stadium have a big special RV show and sale it’s going to cost you a lot of money to get those motorhomes moved from your dealership to the big special sale . It will take several days and several thousand gallons of gasoline to transport all of those coaches to the big event that you’re going to have and when you spend that kind of money you’re going to make sure that you have the best sales people the ones with several rows of sharks teeth at that event.

When you go to one of these RV show in sales never buy a coach that day you are going to screw yourself so hard it will take you several years to financially recoup.. tell them what they’ve heard thousands of times WE ARE JUST LOOKING. Make no commitment at that RV show and sale if you do you’re going to regret it. And remember the federal Monroney law that was passed back in 1958 regarding MSRP's does not apply to motorhomes. It only applies to passenger vehicles. So if you look at the MSRP of the new motorhome that you’re looking at. Ask yourself is it a fabricated MSRP who is it the real one the manufacture put on ? You’re going to look at something more than likely that’s fabricated with an inflated price that way they can discount it and make you feel good when in fact you’re actually paying way more than the thing is worth. Fools in the money are soon parted.. When you hear a RV sales rep say trust me I’ve been in the business many years look out... make sure did you get everything you want in writing if you don’t you will not get it and remember this The big print will give , The small print will take it away Never pay the dealer documentation fee Never pay for pre-delivery inspection Both of them are ripoffs it’s just extra money in their pocket do not pay them ever if you do you are a fool If they say that all customers pay that get up and walk out .

here’s what RV dealerships do not want you to read

I’m sorry for your troubles and I want to post some helpful information for you and many other RV buyers. Several years ago I own a RV repair business and I got so many complaints of people buying brand new motor homes and have had so much troubles with defective components  and this should never happen especially on a brand new motorhome. 

  There are so many RV dealerships that sell brand new motor homes that refused to do any pre-delivery inspections before they place these motorhomes on the lot for sale.  I personally believe that many of these RV dealerships refuse to do these predelivery inspection because they do not want to pay their staff to do it.  Instead they would rather you buy the motorhome and bring it back and activate a warranty claim then the RV dealership gets paid to do the work.

 I offer my services to attorneys that represent RV buyers at no cost to show them what to look for when they activate a lawsuit against any RV dealership of their choice .

 One of the most important things that should be checked out on a brand new motorhome is the LP gas system and let me explain how explosive propane really is 

 Most RV technicians do not understand the expansion rate of propane here are the facts 

 If you have 1 gallon of propane in the tank it’s in a liquid form under pressure inside of the tank if that 1 gallon of liquid propane is released into the atmosphere because of a leak that one liquid gallon will expand a 270 gallons of explosive vapor. 

1.  5 gallons of propane is equal to  1350 gallons of explosive vapor

2.  25 gallons of propane is equal to 6750 gallons of explosive vapor

3. 50 gallons of propane in the tank is equal to 13,500 gallons of explosive vapor. 

 Now I am sure that you would like to know if you buy it brand new or used motorhome you want to know if the LP gas system leaks or not.  Ask your favorite RV dealership if they can show you the predelivery inspection documentation or the motorhome that you purchased and ask them to show you that leak down test results before you buy a motorhome never after you sign a contract. 

 If they can’t provide you with this kind of documentation you need to get up and walk out and refused to part with your money.  When you buy a brand new motorhome you want the experience of enjoying a brand new motor home without any troubles, just like for the most part when you buy a new car.

 A law firm in my past hired me to go up against one of the biggest RV dealerships in the country and I proved that the dealership was submitting fraudulent documents with Gord signatures on a predelivery inspection report. I prove to the judge that the document and forge signatures and a proper predelivery inspection was never done on the motorhome and after evaluating the motorhome which was a brand new motorhome I documented 27 pages of repairs  that the motorhome need it I made a believer out of the court that the motorhome should’ve never been on the market for sale until after everything was fixed not after he was sold.

Remember you can’t get any TV station or News Reporter Politician Reviews to do any stories on fraudulent misrepresentation RV sales because they get a lot of money from RV dealerships in the form of advertising money.

 Every RV fire should always go to Rip Off Report and read the reports that have been posted over the years before you go to any dealership of your choice.

Now I encourage you to go to RipOffReport.com  on the homepage just a little ways down on the right-hand side you will see Rip Off Report live. 

 Go to that page and scroll down a little bit on the right-hand side once again and look at the black audio player and listen to the very top number one show  listen to it completely that’s me  reveaking scams in the RV industry.  Listen to that show a couple of times the second show was me talking about scams in the automotive industry.  Any law firm who knows what they’re doing when it comes to RV dealership cases that’s worth a grain of salt  would agree with everything that I say.

Please do your homework before you part within leave your money please continue to read some of this information that I’m going to post below  this is a predelivery inspection check sheet list that RV dealership should be using but they don’t because they don’t want to pay for it. 

BEST REGUARDS YOUR RV BUYER ADVOCATE....

The most important functions of an RV are not listed on their list.  Items like the 

1. LP gas furnace does it leak LP GAS ?

2.  The LP gas hot water heater.

3.  The LP gas stove.

4.  The LP gas refrigerator.

5.  The ammonia gas system in the refrigerator  does it leak ?

6.  The power supply converting 110 V AC over to 12 V DC.

7.  The complete plumbing system does it leak ?

8.  Does the plumbing system have a water pressure regulator 

9.  The sewage system the black water and the graywater tanks do they leak ?

10.  All of the 12 V system batteries ?  Are they holding a charge 

11.  Does the complete electrical system on the 12 V DC side have any battery drains ?

12.  The air conditioning systems the dash AC and the roof AC do they work properly.

13.  Does the roof AC unit look like it's properly secured to the roof where it will not leak water when it rains ?

14.  Does the shower or the toilet leak water underneath that wood rot the wood out under Neath the shower or the toilet ?

15.   The water pump for the RV aspect of the motorhome does it leak it does it  maintain normal operating pressure ?

16.  Does any aspect of the RV have rotten wood ?

17.  Does the LP gas system have leaks anywhere throughout the system ?

18  does the LP gas regulator maintain a normal operating pressure without league downs ?

19  does the RV come with all of the owners manuals  for safe and normal operation knowledge ?

20  does the RV have leveling jacks to do the work without hydraulic leaks?

21  has the LP gas furnace been checked for any carbon oxide leaks ?  Which can be deadly if not check properly ....

22.  When driving the motorhome does the  motorhome engine charge the RV batteries properly ?

23.  Does the motorhome have slide outs and are they properly aligned so they do not create drag to wear out the electric motors ?  I could make this list five times longer.

I could go on for days when it comes to RVs and complete system checks.  If someone's only going to charge you a couple of hundred dollars for a complete system check on the motorhome they are an idiot because they don't know what they're doing they don't know the complete systems of a motorhome you cannot take a RV to an automotive shop and have it checked out it's completely different then a car or a pick up truck or a little minivan.

Whoever created this business model has no clue what they're doing.   I feel their business model is to refer you to local automotive shops to have your cars and vans and pick up trucks checked out and they are the middleman to make money on work they've never done.  The above is my opinion.

When a RV dealership does not perform an LP gas system leak check is that a safe situation for the consumer or a unsafe situation for the consumer ??