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Complaint Review: Mystery Method - Love Systems - Los Angeles California
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Mystery Method - Love Systems
1640 Wilcox Avenue Los Angeles, 90028 California, United States of America
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800-680-0821
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www.lovesystems.com
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Mystery Method - Love Systems Nicholas Benedict, Nick Savoy Fake Refund Policy Scam Beware! Los Angeles, California
I signed up for this company's Bootcamps-( these are supposed to be live seminars where instructors teach you "the art of seduction"=absolute crap) because at the time I believed them to be legitimate. The second reason I wanted to go ahead with this was because I also knew( thought I knew) that they would definitely give me a refund if things did not work out.
Everywhere on their site, and on their forums, there are one-to-two sentence excerpts stating that there is a "100% customer refund if the customer is not satisfied." The other users and customers on the website also have a lot of positive reviews and agree that they could get their money back if they wanted to. So I asked, the representative on the phone, Jeremy Lubin, if I could get a refund if I wasn't satisfied or could not make it. He said definitely.
I had to make sure, because I was paying a few months in advance and I may have some mandatory college programs to attend to on the same date. But a month later I fin out how big a scam the company is. It seems most of their reviews are either done by moderators or they are paid to do it. They only have one review on each product/program. There are also no negative posts on the company, because they moderate it either by deleting the user and or the comment.
I have proof of the last statement because I know someone who posted a unsatisfactory review and it was deleted. They even prevent from "actual previous" customers from contacting new would-be's through PM's. Gee. I wonder why. Anyone considering this company should check out puahate.com
After all this had been done I really did not want to attend this company's seminar, because I hate their moral character, and would not be able to use their program knowing this about them. And it is not like their programs are worth mentioning either, as I said before, they just goof off and teach you the basics that you already know. I had a friend tell me that he was worse off after taking the bootcamp. So I am sorry if I do not want to attend their stupid bootcamp coming on August 17-18.
When I asked for a refund they then direct me to their terms and conditions page, where it says on one section: that a person cannot ask for any refunds unless they attend all aspects of the program. But believe me, when I talked to the representative, no one had told me about this. For those reading this, if a customer is already unsatisfied with your company( for whatever reason) and wants a refund, why would you also force them to use your service, if you have a 100% refund policy?
I'll tell you why, because they do not refund you! I know a lot of users who have asked for a refund, and none of them have got it back. So it does not matter if you attend the program or not, I just figured that out. So I don't want to waste my time or ignore my mandatory college program.
They also say in other section of their terms that if a person has any reason for dissatisfaction the company will take care of them. This is 100% false. I have two reasons for dissatisfaction, one the company not offering me anything worthwhile, and two my inability to attend the program I paid for.
Overall this company uses any and all forms of tactics, from step one to step 100 to attack a customer at any stage of the process, whether they are browsing the forums, have paid for the product, have went to the seminar, or they are a one year old customer.
Note: Even if the owner agrees to pay a refund, please note that he is notorious for doing this, but never actually returns the money he stole. But if he is truly interested in giving me a refund, then let him post a response and agree to pay me back. Then I will give him a call, and maybe this time he will actually pick up instead of ignoring me. If the company gives me a full refund, rest assured I will update that information here, but if the company continues its shady policies, then I will update that information as well.
Everywhere on their site, and on their forums, there are one-to-two sentence excerpts stating that there is a "100% customer refund if the customer is not satisfied." The other users and customers on the website also have a lot of positive reviews and agree that they could get their money back if they wanted to. So I asked, the representative on the phone, Jeremy Lubin, if I could get a refund if I wasn't satisfied or could not make it. He said definitely.
I had to make sure, because I was paying a few months in advance and I may have some mandatory college programs to attend to on the same date. But a month later I fin out how big a scam the company is. It seems most of their reviews are either done by moderators or they are paid to do it. They only have one review on each product/program. There are also no negative posts on the company, because they moderate it either by deleting the user and or the comment.
I have proof of the last statement because I know someone who posted a unsatisfactory review and it was deleted. They even prevent from "actual previous" customers from contacting new would-be's through PM's. Gee. I wonder why. Anyone considering this company should check out puahate.com
After all this had been done I really did not want to attend this company's seminar, because I hate their moral character, and would not be able to use their program knowing this about them. And it is not like their programs are worth mentioning either, as I said before, they just goof off and teach you the basics that you already know. I had a friend tell me that he was worse off after taking the bootcamp. So I am sorry if I do not want to attend their stupid bootcamp coming on August 17-18.
When I asked for a refund they then direct me to their terms and conditions page, where it says on one section: that a person cannot ask for any refunds unless they attend all aspects of the program. But believe me, when I talked to the representative, no one had told me about this. For those reading this, if a customer is already unsatisfied with your company( for whatever reason) and wants a refund, why would you also force them to use your service, if you have a 100% refund policy?
I'll tell you why, because they do not refund you! I know a lot of users who have asked for a refund, and none of them have got it back. So it does not matter if you attend the program or not, I just figured that out. So I don't want to waste my time or ignore my mandatory college program.
They also say in other section of their terms that if a person has any reason for dissatisfaction the company will take care of them. This is 100% false. I have two reasons for dissatisfaction, one the company not offering me anything worthwhile, and two my inability to attend the program I paid for.
Overall this company uses any and all forms of tactics, from step one to step 100 to attack a customer at any stage of the process, whether they are browsing the forums, have paid for the product, have went to the seminar, or they are a one year old customer.
Note: Even if the owner agrees to pay a refund, please note that he is notorious for doing this, but never actually returns the money he stole. But if he is truly interested in giving me a refund, then let him post a response and agree to pay me back. Then I will give him a call, and maybe this time he will actually pick up instead of ignoring me. If the company gives me a full refund, rest assured I will update that information here, but if the company continues its shady policies, then I will update that information as well.
1 Updates & Rebuttals
Sarathi
Elmhurst,New York,
U.S.A.
Situation Rectified
#2Author of original report
Sat, October 02, 2010
I am the author of this report. It has been a while since I filed this report and the situation has changed since then. I would like to apologize for writing this report because it is a defamation of this company and should not have been written by me. Unfortunately, Rip-off Report does not allow me to remove this report. But if an editor is reading this and they can remove it, please do so, and if not, for all who are reading this report, please ignore this report.
