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  • Report:  #192964

Complaint Review: National Small Business Alliance - Beachwood Ohio

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- Cleveland, Ohio,
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National Small Business Alliance
Chagrin Blvd Beachwood, 44122 Ohio, U.S.A.
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I submitted this email directly to the email address listed for complaints and to this day, I've never even received a simple response....I recognized immediately that this company was running a scam and I promptly resigned. The following is a copy of the email I sent....Let's see what type of response this gets.....Mr. Mario, I used to work for the Corporate Collection Services in Beachwood, Ohio where N.S.B.A is housed at. I worked there for only 2 weeks because I was "appalled" at the pitch and unethical way your company was permitted to do business.

I was encouraged to mislead unsuspecting customers by using words that allowed the perception to be made that they were in fact really getting a bundle of interesting benefits, plus a credit card. It is shameful the way you attempt to embarass and devalue the complaints and letters that ripped off people who have been flat out lied to by employeees who represent the N.S.B.A. If you are unaware of the illegal and fraudulent conduct that is going on in Ohio on Chagrin Rd, then shame on you!

This is not a company with integrity or character because you don't support or stand behind the people who have been victimized and have suffered loss as a direct result of what happens in this corporation. This story needs to be shared with the media, the newspapers and anyone else who will listen so that the hundreds of people who have been defrauded can get some sort of dignity restored to them. Their only fault is that they believed in the telemarketers dialog as given to them over the phone in what is supposed to come off as a service that they have been pre-approved to receive. Places like yours make it difficult for legitimate orginizations that truly do want to provide a service to consumers and not victimize or lie to them to close a deal. How come all the calls aren't recorded prior to the verification process? How come prospects don't know that the call center they are dealing with is really in Beachwood, Ohio? Why are the practices of this company one's that operate in deception and false perception?

I'm interested in hearing from you as a former employee. It was not my desire to publish my information on the ripoffreport.com page, but out of respect for the people who have been hurt as a result of the place where I was once employed, I wanted to give you an opportunity to respond to me personally.

Kathryn

Cleveland, Ohio
U.S.A.


11 Updates & Rebuttals

Dennis

Washington,
District of Columbia,
U.S.A.
PLEASE CALL ME DIRECTLY

#2REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sat, June 03, 2006

Kathryn, No one at CCR knows who you are. Further, I never received the e-mail you said you sent. In addition, our complaint rate is the lowest in the industry; it is less than one-quarter-of-one percent. I honestly feel that the problem is that you probably were fired for non-performance or some behavioral issue and are now attempting to undermine both CCR and NSBA with false and slanderous accusations. I would dearly like to know who you are. As you can see, I don't hide behind pseudo-names. In each and every response I include my direct line and cell phone number and personal e-mail address. Why don't you call me or really e-mail me? And please, use your real name. Dennis Mario NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS ALLIANCE, INC Direct: (760) 322-5572 X 100 Cell: (760) 902-8415 eFax: (760) 406-6035 [email protected]


Kathryn

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
A n original response would've been nice..

#3UPDATE Employee

Wed, May 31, 2006

By the way, I noticed that you really didn't respond to the claims I made about the misrepresentations made in this company by the employees and encouraged by the management. You opted insted to use a standard response titled" here's the real story " When you address the real issue, Mr. Mario, then I'll respond. I have nothing further to say...This is a game to you, you can't really be taking this seriously and minimize the sincere concerns 'everyone' is proclaiming. I did work for you, I have proof and I am telling the truth. Telemarketers are trained to mislead and not to come right out and tell the truth. Bonuses and gifts are given to the rep with the most sales and contests are used to drive the sales reps to close more deals and it's all ok'd by the mgmt. The motto in the office when I was there was " Perception is 9/10's of reality" it's not what you say, but what they think you say...How do you feel about that Mr Mario. I sincerely want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard when you discredit legitimate claims that I know are true. Please respond sir


Kathryn

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
A n original response would've been nice..

#4UPDATE Employee

Wed, May 31, 2006

By the way, I noticed that you really didn't respond to the claims I made about the misrepresentations made in this company by the employees and encouraged by the management. You opted insted to use a standard response titled" here's the real story " When you address the real issue, Mr. Mario, then I'll respond. I have nothing further to say...This is a game to you, you can't really be taking this seriously and minimize the sincere concerns 'everyone' is proclaiming. I did work for you, I have proof and I am telling the truth. Telemarketers are trained to mislead and not to come right out and tell the truth. Bonuses and gifts are given to the rep with the most sales and contests are used to drive the sales reps to close more deals and it's all ok'd by the mgmt. The motto in the office when I was there was " Perception is 9/10's of reality" it's not what you say, but what they think you say...How do you feel about that Mr Mario. I sincerely want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard when you discredit legitimate claims that I know are true. Please respond sir


Kathryn

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
A n original response would've been nice..

#5UPDATE Employee

Wed, May 31, 2006

By the way, I noticed that you really didn't respond to the claims I made about the misrepresentations made in this company by the employees and encouraged by the management. You opted insted to use a standard response titled" here's the real story " When you address the real issue, Mr. Mario, then I'll respond. I have nothing further to say...This is a game to you, you can't really be taking this seriously and minimize the sincere concerns 'everyone' is proclaiming. I did work for you, I have proof and I am telling the truth. Telemarketers are trained to mislead and not to come right out and tell the truth. Bonuses and gifts are given to the rep with the most sales and contests are used to drive the sales reps to close more deals and it's all ok'd by the mgmt. The motto in the office when I was there was " Perception is 9/10's of reality" it's not what you say, but what they think you say...How do you feel about that Mr Mario. I sincerely want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard when you discredit legitimate claims that I know are true. Please respond sir


Kathryn

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
A n original response would've been nice..

#6UPDATE Employee

Wed, May 31, 2006

By the way, I noticed that you really didn't respond to the claims I made about the misrepresentations made in this company by the employees and encouraged by the management. You opted insted to use a standard response titled" here's the real story " When you address the real issue, Mr. Mario, then I'll respond. I have nothing further to say...This is a game to you, you can't really be taking this seriously and minimize the sincere concerns 'everyone' is proclaiming. I did work for you, I have proof and I am telling the truth. Telemarketers are trained to mislead and not to come right out and tell the truth. Bonuses and gifts are given to the rep with the most sales and contests are used to drive the sales reps to close more deals and it's all ok'd by the mgmt. The motto in the office when I was there was " Perception is 9/10's of reality" it's not what you say, but what they think you say...How do you feel about that Mr Mario. I sincerely want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard when you discredit legitimate claims that I know are true. Please respond sir


Patrick

Gilbert,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
But, what about your response?

#7Consumer Comment

Wed, May 31, 2006

Dennis, You said you were going to respond to the allegations, but all you did was spout the same crap as you do on all the reports about your corrupt organization, then stated there was no "Kathryn" that was employed in Ohio. You never did respond to the allegations. I for one would be interested in seeing what you would say.


Kathryn

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
I knew you'd have a diplomatic response, but the fact of the matter is....

#8UPDATE Employee

Wed, May 31, 2006

Mr Mario, I did indeed work for C.C.R and I most certainly used my legal name. I feel no need to list my full name on this web page; especially after I privately submitted my email to you with hopes of getting a sincere and honest response from you. Now I don't know what channels you utilized to locate if I was who I said I was, or if I indeed really did work for Corporate Collection Services in Beachwood, Ohio, but nevertheless; the fact remains that I did work there for a very brief time ( 2 wks ) and after realizing that this was a company that I couldn't feel proud to say I worked for, I resignted. Mr Mario, regardless of all the trendy and well prepared rebuttals you render to these pitiful people who have been taken advantage of, the fact still remains that their is definitely unfair practices and misrepresentation going on. Yes, there is a verification process, but it is done in such a way that the solicited party really doesn't have a timely chance to inquire-the telemarketers are 'trained' to lead the unsuspecting parties into believing 'anything necessary ' to close the sale. The mgrs are aware and the t.m's are very careful to use words to misrepresent the entire bundle. It's fraud and if you think all of these people are complaining about the same thing and the same scam without legitimate cause, then you are the one with the problem. Now you can be as coniving and deceitful as you want with the scammee's - go ahead, belittle them more and then some more again- Why not- you already have their money, but don't try to do the same with me. I know the truth and I welcome these fine, hardworking folks to respond to me via this page if I may be of assistance to you. This must be stopped. Morally, I couldn't continue to work for a business that makes it's living by blatantly ripping people off. People you should hear what goes on in this call center, the language and the representatives who sell you this stuff over the phone. You all would be surprised. Any decent person, with any degree of compassion, could not, would not remain employed by this place after realizing the indecent practices that are sanctioned here. Mr Mario, you may be as diplomatic as you like, but I'd love to see a segment of this story on primetime so that good people could be given back some dignity for the lack of integrity that you continue to show everytime you reply back without taking any credit for anything. You and the organization you represent are truly sad! Good luck everyone who has been hurt by this company and I formally apologize to you. Once I caught on to what was really going on, I promptly resigned. I pray you all be vindicated and compensated for your losses. Shame on the N.S.B.A


Kathryn

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
I knew you'd have a diplomatic response, but the fact of the matter is....

#9UPDATE Employee

Wed, May 31, 2006

Mr Mario, I did indeed work for C.C.R and I most certainly used my legal name. I feel no need to list my full name on this web page; especially after I privately submitted my email to you with hopes of getting a sincere and honest response from you. Now I don't know what channels you utilized to locate if I was who I said I was, or if I indeed really did work for Corporate Collection Services in Beachwood, Ohio, but nevertheless; the fact remains that I did work there for a very brief time ( 2 wks ) and after realizing that this was a company that I couldn't feel proud to say I worked for, I resignted. Mr Mario, regardless of all the trendy and well prepared rebuttals you render to these pitiful people who have been taken advantage of, the fact still remains that their is definitely unfair practices and misrepresentation going on. Yes, there is a verification process, but it is done in such a way that the solicited party really doesn't have a timely chance to inquire-the telemarketers are 'trained' to lead the unsuspecting parties into believing 'anything necessary ' to close the sale. The mgrs are aware and the t.m's are very careful to use words to misrepresent the entire bundle. It's fraud and if you think all of these people are complaining about the same thing and the same scam without legitimate cause, then you are the one with the problem. Now you can be as coniving and deceitful as you want with the scammee's - go ahead, belittle them more and then some more again- Why not- you already have their money, but don't try to do the same with me. I know the truth and I welcome these fine, hardworking folks to respond to me via this page if I may be of assistance to you. This must be stopped. Morally, I couldn't continue to work for a business that makes it's living by blatantly ripping people off. People you should hear what goes on in this call center, the language and the representatives who sell you this stuff over the phone. You all would be surprised. Any decent person, with any degree of compassion, could not, would not remain employed by this place after realizing the indecent practices that are sanctioned here. Mr Mario, you may be as diplomatic as you like, but I'd love to see a segment of this story on primetime so that good people could be given back some dignity for the lack of integrity that you continue to show everytime you reply back without taking any credit for anything. You and the organization you represent are truly sad! Good luck everyone who has been hurt by this company and I formally apologize to you. Once I caught on to what was really going on, I promptly resigned. I pray you all be vindicated and compensated for your losses. Shame on the N.S.B.A


Kathryn

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
I knew you'd have a diplomatic response, but the fact of the matter is....

#10UPDATE Employee

Wed, May 31, 2006

Mr Mario, I did indeed work for C.C.R and I most certainly used my legal name. I feel no need to list my full name on this web page; especially after I privately submitted my email to you with hopes of getting a sincere and honest response from you. Now I don't know what channels you utilized to locate if I was who I said I was, or if I indeed really did work for Corporate Collection Services in Beachwood, Ohio, but nevertheless; the fact remains that I did work there for a very brief time ( 2 wks ) and after realizing that this was a company that I couldn't feel proud to say I worked for, I resignted. Mr Mario, regardless of all the trendy and well prepared rebuttals you render to these pitiful people who have been taken advantage of, the fact still remains that their is definitely unfair practices and misrepresentation going on. Yes, there is a verification process, but it is done in such a way that the solicited party really doesn't have a timely chance to inquire-the telemarketers are 'trained' to lead the unsuspecting parties into believing 'anything necessary ' to close the sale. The mgrs are aware and the t.m's are very careful to use words to misrepresent the entire bundle. It's fraud and if you think all of these people are complaining about the same thing and the same scam without legitimate cause, then you are the one with the problem. Now you can be as coniving and deceitful as you want with the scammee's - go ahead, belittle them more and then some more again- Why not- you already have their money, but don't try to do the same with me. I know the truth and I welcome these fine, hardworking folks to respond to me via this page if I may be of assistance to you. This must be stopped. Morally, I couldn't continue to work for a business that makes it's living by blatantly ripping people off. People you should hear what goes on in this call center, the language and the representatives who sell you this stuff over the phone. You all would be surprised. Any decent person, with any degree of compassion, could not, would not remain employed by this place after realizing the indecent practices that are sanctioned here. Mr Mario, you may be as diplomatic as you like, but I'd love to see a segment of this story on primetime so that good people could be given back some dignity for the lack of integrity that you continue to show everytime you reply back without taking any credit for anything. You and the organization you represent are truly sad! Good luck everyone who has been hurt by this company and I formally apologize to you. Once I caught on to what was really going on, I promptly resigned. I pray you all be vindicated and compensated for your losses. Shame on the N.S.B.A


Kathryn

Cleveland,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
I knew you'd have a diplomatic response, but the fact of the matter is....

#11UPDATE Employee

Wed, May 31, 2006

Mr Mario, I did indeed work for C.C.R and I most certainly used my legal name. I feel no need to list my full name on this web page; especially after I privately submitted my email to you with hopes of getting a sincere and honest response from you. Now I don't know what channels you utilized to locate if I was who I said I was, or if I indeed really did work for Corporate Collection Services in Beachwood, Ohio, but nevertheless; the fact remains that I did work there for a very brief time ( 2 wks ) and after realizing that this was a company that I couldn't feel proud to say I worked for, I resignted. Mr Mario, regardless of all the trendy and well prepared rebuttals you render to these pitiful people who have been taken advantage of, the fact still remains that their is definitely unfair practices and misrepresentation going on. Yes, there is a verification process, but it is done in such a way that the solicited party really doesn't have a timely chance to inquire-the telemarketers are 'trained' to lead the unsuspecting parties into believing 'anything necessary ' to close the sale. The mgrs are aware and the t.m's are very careful to use words to misrepresent the entire bundle. It's fraud and if you think all of these people are complaining about the same thing and the same scam without legitimate cause, then you are the one with the problem. Now you can be as coniving and deceitful as you want with the scammee's - go ahead, belittle them more and then some more again- Why not- you already have their money, but don't try to do the same with me. I know the truth and I welcome these fine, hardworking folks to respond to me via this page if I may be of assistance to you. This must be stopped. Morally, I couldn't continue to work for a business that makes it's living by blatantly ripping people off. People you should hear what goes on in this call center, the language and the representatives who sell you this stuff over the phone. You all would be surprised. Any decent person, with any degree of compassion, could not, would not remain employed by this place after realizing the indecent practices that are sanctioned here. Mr Mario, you may be as diplomatic as you like, but I'd love to see a segment of this story on primetime so that good people could be given back some dignity for the lack of integrity that you continue to show everytime you reply back without taking any credit for anything. You and the organization you represent are truly sad! Good luck everyone who has been hurt by this company and I formally apologize to you. Once I caught on to what was really going on, I promptly resigned. I pray you all be vindicated and compensated for your losses. Shame on the N.S.B.A


Dennis

Washington,
District of Columbia,
U.S.A.
HERE'S THE REAL STORY

#12REBUTTAL Owner of company

Wed, May 31, 2006

Before directly responding to Kathryn's allegations let me first point out that: 1. NSBA is headquartered in Washington DC, NOT in Ohio. 2. NSBA prides itself on maintaining industry best practices by only selecting and solicitation businesses, scrubbing all calls through Federal, State and In-house DNC files. 3. All NSBA's scripts and materials are closely scrutinized by the same attorneys that are used by the Direct Marketing Association. 4. NSBA does not condone any misrepresentation or deviation from any attorney approved scripting 5. ALL sales verified through a third party verification company. 6. Further all sales are recorded and the member is played a pre-recorded disclosure that recaps exactly what the member is receiving and how the payments work and specifically asks if the member was offered anything else then what was just recapped in the recorded verification. 7. NSBA Trains Outsourced call centers to stick to script, monitors and has no tolerance for deviation. 8. Each outsourced call center is responsible to do quality assurance and listen to each and every recorded verification and cancel any not meeting NSBA's strict guidelines. 9. As a second level of quality control, NSBA also does its own quality assurance on each verification and cancels any that do not meet guidelines. 10. NSBA only benefits from having happy members. We take complaints very seriously. Upon further investigation, we can't find a "Kathryn" who worked for CCR. What is your real name? Dennis Mario NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS ALLIANCE, INC Direct: (760) 322-5572 X 100 Cell: (760) 902-8415 eFax: (760) 406-6035 [email protected]

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