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  • Report:  #383502

Complaint Review: Onforce - Lexington Massachusetts

Reported By:
- Mount Morris, New York,
Submitted:
Updated:

Onforce
10 Maguire Road Lexington, 02421 Massachusetts, U.S.A.
Web:
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Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
Here is my work order experience: HENCE all the communication on my part and none on the buyer part and none on ONFORCE part:

Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:58pm | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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*Status*

I called Deloris at 7:00pm regarding this work order and because she was able calm me down a little bit I will give this work order 1 more day. If I do not hear from someone tomorrow morning regarding this then I will assume I need to do what I need to do to get paid!!!!!!!!!!

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS KEEP A LINE OF COMMUNICATION OPEN AND YOU CANNOT EVEN BE BOTHERED WITH THAT!

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Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:42pm | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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I called onforce and spoke to Sandy about this work order and she continues to tell me there is nothing she or anyone else can do to help with getting this work order closed and I am very upset and she would not let me speak with a supervisor and would not give me any phone numbers to any supervisors regarding this matter

This is absolutely rediculous!! The pro should be able to place a work order into problem status and because I can't, I have no alternative but to sit and wait and wait and wait even more!

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Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:33pm | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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I called at approximately 2:00pm today and spoke to Rich himself and he said he would make sure this work order was closed today. It is now 6:30pm and the work order is still open.

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Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:41pm | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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I called Onforce Market Support to see if they could get involved with this work order to help in getting it closed out as apparently I am not able to communicate with Granite in an efficient manner and have been unsuccessful with getting my phone calls returned.

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Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:33pm | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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*Reply Requested*

I tried to call Granite Field Services once again, Was on hold for over

5 minutes with an automated machine that eventually just hung up on me.

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Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:27pm | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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*Reply Requested*

I did not receive a call per the request Bob made at 3:45 this afternoon. If I do not receive a response regarding this Email, I will be left with no alternative but to turn it over to Onforce for further investigation as to why I am getting no replies through the ticket and no return phone calls.

Thank you!

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Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:46pm | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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*Reply Requested*

I wanted to document that I called Granite and spoke to Bob at 3:40pm regarding this work order to check status. I explained that the last time I called, they said the work order would close out on Monday

(Today) but I had not seen it close and that was the reason for my phone call.

Bob noticed in the notes that the work order should have been closed and he is getting inside wiring on the telephone call to help assist in getting this work order closed. I was placed on hold for approximately a minute or so and he said he could not get through to anyone so he was going to send an Email to have them call me directly.

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Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:53pm | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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I just wanted to document that I called Granite Field Services regarding this work order and I was told that they were keeping this work order open until a dial tone was restored at this location so they could resend me to the job site.

I have no problem with going back on site as long as it is prior to Monday October 20, 2008 as I am going to be going in for a surgery that is going to put me out of work for several months. Therefore, please do not dispatch any job after this date to me as I will not be able to do them.

Thank you!

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Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:40pm | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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*Reply Requested*

Can you close this wo? Why can't I get a response on this??? Your communication is becoming unsatisfactory!

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Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:38am | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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*Reply Requested*

Can you close this wo?

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Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:16pm | Glen Hoehn | Pro Supervisor

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Can you close this wo?

NOW, here is ONFORCE RESPONSE:

*** To add a note, reply and enter your note above this line ***

*** Please use the work order notes for all communications ***

Work Order #: 40011427

IVR Access: 888.209.0727 or 888.208.6840 code: 855925

Service Task: Consumer Electronics > Wiring & Cabling > In Wall >

Diagnose & Repair

Service Time (local): Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:00am - 5:00pm

Location: Painted Post, NY 14870 (Commercial)

Spend Limit: US $275 maximum @ hourly rate

Service Pro: Glen H.(#38971)

ReturnPaperwork: Yes - Faxed 12:40pm

TravelTime: 1.25

Cable:

Cable per foot:

Jacks:

Number of Jacks:

Faceplates:

Number of Faceplates:

Work Order Notes

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Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:48pm | Keith Simpson | OnForce CSR Level 3

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Good evening Glen,

After reviewing your phone calls regarding work order #40011427, OnForce has currently suspended your account indefinitely due to:

Unprofessionalism. The Market Support Team is required to automatically suspend a service professional indefinitely under these circumstances.

'*** Please Read Below for IMPORTANT INFORMATION ***

1. You have 3 business days to complete any Accepted work orders for payment. Any Uncompleted Work Orders beyond that time frame will be completed for $0 on your behalf.

2. Please check the 'active work orders' menu of your Professional Command Center for the status of work orders assigned to you. Based on the circumstances, OnForce may be required to unassign work orders from your Professional Command Center due to your current account status.

3. Should you wish to appeal your deactivation, or have any questions, please refer to the following links:

http://help.onforce.com/pros/questions/721/Appealing+Removal and http://help.onforce.com/pros/questions/715/Guiding+Principles. To ensure the Appeals Process is a true peer review and in order to maintain our neutrality in the marketplace, OnForce will not argue for or against the deactivation of the service professional. If the Service Pro Appeals Board determines that the service professional should be reinstated, OnForce will reinstate that service pro.

GO FIGURE, I am just another statistic

Glen xxxxxx

Mount Morris, New York

U.S.A.

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7 Updates & Rebuttals

MfactorTEC

United States of America
Why OnForce

#2Consumer Comment

Sun, February 13, 2011

I have been with OnForce since back in the ComputerRepair.com years. I have a 100% rating and have done well over 500 jobs in total. It has been challenging at times to accomplish this and it took some diplomacy as well. There are many different types of buyers, some better than others. I have to say that when I have had issues with buyers and had to get OnForce involved they have given the impression that my inquiry and or complaints are not that big of a deal and there is nothing they can do about it. However when a buyer had a problem or wanted more info OnForce acted as if it was a 10 alarm fire! In my opinion OnForce is definitely buyer focused and in the recent years not provider friendly.


Shawn Stout

USA
What do you expect?

#3REBUTTAL Individual responds

Sun, January 17, 2010

You cant constantly bug a big customer like granite communications on just your work order.  They send out thousands of work orders a month, i know this because i have done quite a few from this provider.  Onforce is simply a mediator between you and the buyer, nothing more.  I have been doing work orders for onforce for many years now, i have never been band and I have always had great experiences with work orders.  Granite sometimes does take longer to close out work orders simply because 1 buyer manager might have over 500 work orders in a week to work on, just put yourself in that person's place.  I'm sure if you acted the same way to a business customer of yours in your business after harrassing them for payment, they would take there business somewhere else. Anyways, just my 2 cents.


George

Green Valley,
Illinois,
U.S.A.
This was a disaster

#4UPDATE Employee

Mon, July 20, 2009

I'm an onforce service pro, and I know how you feel about companies not closing the work order as fast as it would be good for the tech to do so. However, I am not surprised they closed your account with them. Repeatedly asking the buyer to close the work order won't accomplish anything. That particular buyer, Granite Telecom, is a company I've completed several work orders through onforce for- they are typically fast to close the work orders, and if they don't they have a good reason not to. In this case they appear to have wanted to send you out again. I hope you did not make up that statement about surgery putting you out of work; it is clear you were trying to corner the buyer into just closing the WO, which is stupid because in my own experience this particular buyer would have compensated you more because it would take a second trip to resolve. As far as Onforce being pro-buyer.... I hope you realize that the name of the game is to make the buyer happy. I recently had an issue where onforce threatened to suspend my account for a month because of a misunderstanding with the buyer related to scheduling. Once I cleared things with the buyer, they must have told onforce everything was ok because nothings happened to my account and to this day I continue to get work orders routed to me. On the other hand, it does seem that onforce is pro-buyer. However, they tend to be very neutral. If a work order is sitting in completed status for a month and the tech cannot communicate with the buyer, then onforce will help the tech. Onforce favors the buyer because that's where the money comes from, so if a buyer is trying to take advantage of a tech that way then onforce will take action. Onforce has a status for what you would have needed, "Reply Requested". Some buyers seem to have a phobia for the Onforce platform's email communication system, and others have poor communications within their own organization. Anyway, Onforce is largely a decent way of making money and a good platform. It is not without its pitfalls though- such as getting the buyer to close the work order when you want to, or their rules against "circumvention" of the platform. It is all too tempting to steal their customers when you have your own pc biz but it's hardly worth it.


The Truth

Burlington,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
To the both of you.

#5Consumer Comment

Mon, January 05, 2009

Yeah, wow $11 for a work order, that is nuts! Are you out of your mind? 10% from the tech, who didn't have to find the gig on their own, crazy, With those numbers I am only making 90% profit from OnForce, totally unacceptable. I want all jobs placed in front of me on a silver plate, with no advertising cost and total profit. By the way saying that OnForce is dumb and confrontational makes you dumb and confrontational, or at least doesn't present a very good case to the contrary. Way to start. Also like every great idea, OnForce has those that attempt to copy it. There is always competition, the reason you probably don't know of it is that they don't do a great job at it. I know this because I have tried them; no I am not an employee at OnForce. I am a Tech that happily uses the OnForce platform and have for years. By the way with OnForce completing almost one million work orders, and 5 posts here, that means that .000005% of the people have had a less than perfect experience. Crazy that doesn't happen anywhere else, everyone is always happy! If you are so unhappy just stop using OnForce, really, stop. No one wants techs like you on the platform, you give us all a bad name and honestly we are sick of it. Go spend you time somewhere else, good luck!


Glen Hoehn

Mount Morris,
New York,
U.S.A.
Thank you, I know it is true

#6Author of original report

Sat, December 27, 2008

To the person who posted stating I was wrong... 1. I was not angry until I got a big run around about closing the work order 2. OnForce does not give the Provider the option to place a work order into Problem Status?? Why is that? 3. OnForce will not last long once other companies see what this company does to its providers. Eventually, you will see more & more companies offering better pay for the same service. I was using onforce to supplement my income from my computer business which I have been operating since 1997. Do some homework and you will find OnForce has ripped off many people out there and eventually there will be a class action law suit filed against them, I just can't wait for the day... Hopefully sooner than later... I did the work, I should have been compensated immediately following completion with no delays. The reason why we do these jobs is to be paid immediately. Then onforce allowed the buyers the ability to change the rules & require additional paperwork for each job so then it put more responsibility to the provider making the expenses increase as to make the job not worth doing. With all of the negative reports onforce is getting, they will seal their own fate! Watch and see.... Without providers, onforce will sink! With how much they are profiting from each work order, buyers will begin to seek alternate less expensive solutions - Buyer Submits Work Order - Onforce Charges $11.00 Any funds left in Buyer Account become Onforce Funds! NO REFUNDS Provider Accepts Work Order - Onforce Charges 10% of work order amount Onforce is PRO-BUYER and their service charges prove it. Their platform functionality proves it. They are a complete and total rip-off!


Techy

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.
It is true.

#7UPDATE Employee

Fri, December 26, 2008

The first rebuttal was obviously posted by someone at OnForce headquarters (an address in Massachusetts). As usual, they are dumb and confrontational. I have been working for OnForce for several years as a Provider. Whenever there is a problem with a work order, the company is very unprofessional. You simply cannot get hold of a Support person because you are pushed automatically into voicemail. When a representative does actually call back a few days later, he doesn't even listen to the details of your case. They simply tell you that OnForce "policy" does not allow them to help you is this such-and-such situation, and the work order is left against your favor. You, as the Provider, get blamed for the work, don't get paid, and usually you are suspended from OnForce altogether for one month. I've tried contacting a supervisor, but David Fitzgerald is about as helpful and verbal as a loan shark at Off Track Betting. It really is just employee abuse. OnForce can stay in business only because there are just too many unemployed techs who need any job at all, and because there is no competition. If there were a similar company to provide tech service, OnForce would be gone in a heartbeat.


The Truth

Burlington,
Massachusetts,
U.S.A.
You are wrong

#8Consumer Comment

Thu, December 18, 2008

OnForce has many many happy techs or "pros" also OnForce has thousands of pros that are not suspended. In reading your post it seems that you spent allot of time angry. This is obvious by the deleted swearing, excessive !!!!!!!!!, and number of times you sent these "unprofessional" communications to Granite. You dont seem like someone I would ever do business with and OnForce was probably correct in suspending you. OnForce works because they maintain a professional and qualified work force. In order to do this they don't let everyone use their platform. If they did then who knows who would show up on site. I certainly wouldn't want a hot head who cant even contain themselves long enough to write a professional e-mail. Kudos to OnForce!

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