Tim
Grand Haven,#2Consumer Comment
Fri, October 30, 2009
Whether or not they actually deliver on their service is beside the point per this report. If you have an independent beef with this company, and haven't done so already, you should file your own report. Don't piggy-back your personal complaint onto someone else's, substantively unrelated complaint.
The OP complained that the services offered violate constitutional rights.
I disagreed with that, and my disagreement there hasn't been challenged.
I then layed out how the company apparently purports to operate. That hasn't been challenged either.
The only aspect in which my rebuttal was off, assuming that yours is not, is in the use of words like "do" instead of phrases like "claim to do."
So perhaps I was partially, semantically incorrect. But per the Report, and per the substance of my rebuttal, you haven't really disagreed with me. So your title stretches a bit far.
Best regards!
Willie
Iowa,#3Consumer Comment
Sat, October 24, 2009
I only agree about one part: they don't violate constitutional rights but they definitely do not do what they "guarantee".. The service USED to work, keyword USED to but no longer does. They either stopped trying or just got enough customers to take their money and never get back to them... completely ridiculous. I blew $3500 on this company DON'T DO THE SAME!!
Tim
Grand Haven,#4Consumer Comment
Fri, October 23, 2009
These guys aren't doing anything "unconstitutional" or violative of your civil rights. Nor does it appear as though they are doing anything illegal.
All they do, from what I can tell, is the following:
1) Take advantage of the way a search engine like Google works to shove individual Rip Off Reports links to lower pages. Google, at least in its infancy, based search result relevancy on the number of outside sites that linked to a given page.
Take a company like Amway. There are probably thousands of web pages out there containing complaints against Amway. Many of these pages contain links to reports on this site. With a large volume of external links to a given Rip Off Report, that report will rank high in a Google search. So if you google "Amway," one of the first sites listed would, theoretically, be a rip off report.
It turns out that Amway is a bad example because there are SO many sites dedicated solely to the scam.
But what this company would do for Amway would be to create numerous, largely duplicative "dummy" websites containing positive information about Amway. Each of these sites would link to every other such site, and links to these sites would also be placed in other "dummy" sites.
So with all of these links to fictitious sites containing positive information about the reported company, the RoR link falls behind three or four pages worth of dummy sites, rather than being one of the first links a searcher would see.
2) With some other sites that may post negative information about ripoff companies, this company uses the threat of defamation lawsuits.
3) In other instances, this company will "troll" sites like RoR and post fictitious rebuttals.
So I don't like what they're doing, but it's just a business. And it's actually based in a very marketable concept if you ask me. From the previous rebuttal, it doesn't sound like they're all that capable of living up to their promises anymore, and their prices are just absurd.
So think about it this way: some company scams a consumer and winds up on the wrong end of a RipOff report. Now, when someone goes to do some research on the company, one of the first things they see is a link to the report. To fix this problem, they shell out thousands of dollars to a company that, lo and behold, can't follow through on its promises, and the RipOff Report is still listed high.
Karma!
Jordan
Illinois,#5Consumer Comment
Thu, October 22, 2009
Personally, this service has worked for me in the past but hasnt for the last few years.. It seems like they used to know what they were doing but dont anymore..i dont know if their scammers but their product doesnt work so dont waste your money!!!!
Joe
Austin,#6Consumer Comment
Mon, February 02, 2009
IT LOOKED LIKE A SCAM. THE AD FEATURED A PHOTO OF A GREAT BIG BUILDING AND THESE SCAMMERS TRIED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY OWNED THE ENTIRE BLDG. AND MAYBE THEY HAD A SMALL SPACE IN THE BASEMENT. I DON'T SEE THEIR AD ON THE INTERNET ANYMORE. MAYBE BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL TO HACK SOMEBODDY ELSE'S SITE WITHOUT PERMISSION.
Clifford
South Haven,#7Consumer Comment
Wed, January 28, 2009
I responded to this yesterday thanking you for the ad for this company. It was not posted, I expect the Rip Off Report editors would not want it here. I will try again however. I believe the company provides a valuable service.