Ex
Hell,#2UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, December 05, 2006
could bob and ryan both work for usacs? Why arent they called usacs anymore? isn't true they have four different listed dbas? what up ryan , geesh I'd thought he'd stay there forever. I am ex employee who now works at a legit employee . Bob , really give it up. The only judge for people who do worng is the man upstairs ? Or do you guys no longer do your bible studies?? and the labtops?Well , I sell those now like I said for a legit company. cost $500 tops . Wow for $160 a month I too can get a $500 system? wow. Awesome.
Bob
Los Angeles,#3Consumer Comment
Mon, December 04, 2006
Where does the money come from for Start Essentials if we don't pay the lease? Is Start Essentials the deep pocket or is the leasing company the deep pocket? Is the leasing company owned by Start Essentials or is it a separate company? Were you an employee? Did you get fired or quit? Were you executive or lower level employee? What type of witness would you make: hostile or rational? Why hasn't a class action already been filed? Why hasn't the government closed the company? If you know so much about the workings of the company why don't you whistle blow, be the lead on the class action and collect the big bucks? Do you already have legal counsel? Is Ryan your real name or are you writing under an alias? I've worked with a high powered litigator and if you will mail me an affidavit as to what you know, I will see if a case is possible. Mail it to: 1021 N. Doheny Drive, Suite 8, Los Angeles, Ca 90069.
Ryan
Dallas,#4Consumer Suggestion
Sun, December 03, 2006
We know you think we're idiots Bob. You know so much about their program because.... ummm... because... Well now wait a second Bob! How DO you know so much about their program? Weren't you 'not accepted' into their program? That must be how you know that we signed for equipment and 'verbally confirmed' our leases (company jargon at it's finest!)... Nice Try Startup Essentials man... I do have an idea for you though!!! Instead of poking around the ripoff report defending your good name, and the integrity of your soon to be defunct company... why not take this time to figure out a new way to sell your services? That could turn out to be the best free advice you ever receive ;) p.s. To anyone reading this who'd been ripped off, lied to, scammed, or tricked by Startup Essentials... We will not let you get berated on this forum, so post away! This guy Bob is hands down an employee (if not an executive) of their company. Startup Essentials does not FRONT you anything. They recive an immediate payment from A-1 leasing for over $3,000 while you get scammed into a HUGE bill. OUCH!
Bob
Los Angeles,#5Consumer Suggestion
Sun, December 03, 2006
I never stated that I was a successful attorney. I just stated that I have a degree from a law school. If I was already successful I wouldn't be interested in getting help to start a business. I guess anyone who likes what the company has to offer must somehow be part of the vast "conspiracy". I simply believe that the company is NOT cheating, scamming, or ripping off anyone. I also believe that the company should be more selective about their clients. There just seems to be a much easier way to scam people than to FRONT people all the tools, and help, and the website, and the laptop in exchange for a PROMISE that they will pay timely on the lease. Not a very good scam, if you ask me. Seems like Start Essentials is the one being scammed by a whole bunch of people wanting free laptops. If I moved to Dallas, do you think I could get a job there, Ryan?
Paul
Anaheim,#6Consumer Suggestion
Sun, December 03, 2006
If they sent you a laptop and deducted $128 per month, all you have to do is stop the payments by closing the account that is being accessed. Most laptops sell for around $500. If you only made 4 payments, what could you possibly have lost? Throw the rest of the nonsense in the trash. Enjoy your computer. In the future, avoid these internet business scams. Sure, the startup company will be mad because you're not going ahead on any online business. Maybe they'll call and yell at you on the phone. Chances are, they'll be disappointed. Hurt feelings. I'm sure they'll be some name-calling too. So what? That's life in the big city. There's always somebody who will get their feelings hurt. Your job is to have that somebody not be YOU. Just explain that you don't want anymore online crap. You'll be keeping the laptop. And, cancel everything else from here on out. I don't understand where all this attitude is coming from. If you got a laptop for $500, you did a helluva lot better than most of the people who complain here. All you have to do is stop any further involvement with this company. Problem solved. Another satisfied lease customer. You know, when everybody just keeps the laptop and stops making any more payments, this scam will blow over. The company will learn not to hand out any more laptops.
Ryan
Dallas,#7Consumer Suggestion
Sun, December 03, 2006
Thank you for your legal advice Bob! Unfortunately, it's an obvious pack of Bull... Nobody has 'besmirched' this scam company. Nope. They've royally besmirched themselves. Of course, like any other ignorant person on the planet, you have opened your mouth about something that you know nothing about. (Remember? Your story said you weren't approved to be a customer.) But, being a successful attorney and all means you can go to a forum and try to scare people into beliving there's no way out... Looks like the scam is following us to all the way to Ripoffreport.com!!! According to Bob, we'd all be millionaires if we just shut up and LET this company screw us over! That must be the legal advice we should pay attention to, right? My guess is this: Bob works for Startup Essentials. Bob is getting freaked out that so many people are breaking their leases. Bob knows that Leasecomm (a company like Startup Essentials) was forced to pay 24 million dollars when they were sued for selling home based businesses attached to credit card terminal and laptop leases. Bob's going to have a cow when these people have a better way to communicate with each other away from ripoffreport.com. The good thing about overpriced books? They pay for really cool technology and a TON of advertising. One last thing Bob... these people are going to win. Startup Essentials is going to be a crappy memory very soon. And yes, I am a fortune cookie.
Bob
Los Angeles,#8Consumer Comment
Sun, December 03, 2006
You didn't know you were signing a lease? You signed a document online, you read the document online, it was read to you over the phone, you verified your signature and agreement, you signed for and accepted the equipment and the materials, and you verbally confirmed with the lease company. And you didn't know it was a lease? Yet NOW you are a legal expert who knows HOW to break a lease AND institute legal proceedings. If you really didn't know what you were getting into, how on earth can you be beleived that you KNOW whether a company is a "scam". Any person can "break a lease" at anytime they want to. It is called a "breach of contract". However, you should know that there are consequences for a breach. The consequences may affect your credit score and history. Also, you can submit to mediation or arbitration and PAY a settlement to terminate your agreement. You should beware of taking faulty advice from someone who claims they didn't know anything THEN but they know everything NOW. The faulty advice of breaching your agreement may be the worst of your options. The guy who wrote that overpriced and useless book is not a lawyer. And how would he know? If you worked as hard on your attempt to run your own business as you do to besmirch the reputation of a company, you would probably be a millionaire. Your best option to to just follow through, use their help, and make some money for yourself...the best revenge, against your supposed friends, of course, who told you that the company has to be a scam to want to help you. My credit was supposed to be high enough to qualify but the real credit check proved it too low to qualify for their help. But, I examined the company, looked over the lease, understood my obligation, and thought it was a really good way to get help starting and running my business. I understood that the laptop was just one of the many tools provided for my convenience. I certainly don't have the money to buy my own. That's why I wanted to work with them. Unfortunately, I was not accepted because my credit was too low. You have what I cannot get and you are complaining about it. Figures. Bob p.s. Yes, I have a degree from a law school.
Kristy
Batesville,#9Consumer Suggestion
Sat, December 02, 2006
These people are such scam artist. How many calls and how many days did this process take for you. They told the Attorney General's Office Fraud Division Investigator in my state that the process took place over several days and several phone calls including a conference call between myself, USA Card and A-1 Leasing.....not true. They also stated that they do not make cold calls and that I contacted them for information...not true. I answered an ad in Parent's Magazine about job opportunities for "at home mothers". I went to a web site and answered a few general contact questions and was swarmed with phone calls in the next several weeks about work at home opportunities. I was contact by USA Card Services as a cold call. I found a site that offered help in breaking leases and am in the process of doing so. I have not had a response from either company and I know that they have received my letters since I sent them certified and have signed receipt. Stand up to them, don't back down, and hopefully we can stop this scam! Good Luck!