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  • Report:  #1410494

Complaint Review: Sunrun - Internet

Reported By:
John - Lucerne valley, California, United States
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Sunrun
Internet, United States
Web:
sunrun.com
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Still have a ghost in my Electrical system, about every 2-3 weeks I have to replace something electric,  This week it was the light switch for the back porch lights.

3-weeks ago it was an outlet in my daughter's room,  her computer and other items plugged into that outlet stopped working, after some testing we ended up replacing that outlet, again I believe this is the 3rd time we have replaced that outlet since the installation.  

The Back porch light bulbs,  never last more than a few days before they blow out, these are brand new 5000 hour fluorescent bulbs, they last an average of 8-10 days before needing to be replaced.   The front porch lights don't work half the time when we turn them on.  And the last electrician you guy's sent out here said I had $20-30k  Twenty to Thirty Thousand Dollars in damage to my Electrical system,  Funny how you guy's just stop talking to me when he reported that, And you sent the account straight to collections instead of trying to fix the problems .... Did you think that all these problems were just going to fix themselves ?   Maybe you though I was just making all of this up ?  Until your Electrician came back with his report, you probably did think  I was making all this up, but even after all of that,   Instead of Trying to fix the problems you just sent the account to collections... Did you think we were just going to pay the bill and live with the Damages ??

 Your Electrician also said I have something called Ground Leakage,  he had measureable current in the grounding rods for the solar system,  So if your system Really is working  Like you guys say  it is , It looks like all of that power is going right into the ground,  and I am paying for it !,  Before Solar I had a $200-$400 dollar Electrical bill, Now I have a $250-$600 Electrical bill EVERY MONTH,  and I have a $212.59 Solar payment TOO.

Edison has told me on multiple occasions that this solar system is not working correctly,  Your own Electrician told me this system is NOT working correctly, and I have thousands of dollars in damage to my Electrical system,  I still have high, Electrical bills  Even Higher than before we had solar ?   and a $212.59 Solar bill on top of that ?

My Roof still leaks,  I have sent in several pictures of this Multiple times.  My Heater still doesn't work and it's almost winter AGAIN!   Hot tub was never Reinstalled, now after 3 years of sitting it needs to be replaced, Pumps, lines, valves, all damaged by freezing conditions here in the winter.   Backup generator was never installed,  Inverter still makes terrible noises that we can hear thru the whole house,   Since the day the Second  Inverter was installed  over 2 years now,  the inverter has only recognized 35 of 36 panels,  When I told Horizon about this, they referred me to Sunrun,  you guy's are supposed to be monitoring this system and you can't see that ?   Sunrun should have scheduled a service call to fix this issue years ago, but they didn't, and neither did Horizon Solar. 

A few days ago, the same day we replaced the back porch light switch,  the pool pump stopped working , I can only imagine that it has something to do with all of the Electrical problems we are having... The pool pump is going to be over $1000.00 one thousand dollars  to replace, So if I find out it was related to the issues I am having with the electrical system I will have to Charge the replacement and installation of that, to you guy's also.

All I am asking is that my house be put back together the right way,  Damages fixed, Appliances Replaced, Safety Restored...

I am not asking for, the thousands of dollars in lost wages, from the 28+ days I had to take off of work for Horizon Solar to get the system installed.

I am not asking for the $2,000  that it cost us to get all the information recovered from the hard drives, that were fried during the installation, so that we could get our Small Business up and running again.

I am not asking for the Hundreds of dollars I have already taken out of my pocket for, Switches, Outlets, Bulbs, Tools, lighting fixtures and Appliances.

All I am asking for is Everything to be fixed once and for all, to be completely Honest with you, You Guy's ( Sunrun ) have not even made an attempt, to fix anything, you sent one Electrician out here, he gave you some bad news,  and now NOBODY wants to own up to Taking Responsibility for the Damages Done to our house.

(by the way I am a Residential and Commercial inspector for a living, incase you are wondering why I see every little bit of Damage,  Because it's my job...)

Hey here's an idea,  Maybe you guy's should hire me, to do your post install quality assurance checks.



4 Updates & Rebuttals

John

Lucerne valley,
California,
United States
had a couple of electricians our already

#2Author of original report

Tue, November 07, 2017

One of the Electricians was a guy I found in the phonebook, nice guy very knowedgledgeable...

The other guy was a long time family friend and has been a C-10 for over 30 years...

Both of them agreed there were several problems including a bad nuteral, incorrect wiring in the box, and the incoming wires at the weatherhead were hooked up wrong for all this to happen in the first place... in addition they both want to do an inspection to see what kind of damage we ended up with inside the walls.  With the open ground issues, and electrical items blowing out when we plug stuff in Obviously there are still some problems...

Unfortunitly Even our long time family friend needs to get paid !   and we dont have the kind of money he needs to send a few people crawling around in the attic and inspencting the interior walls...  if it will let me upload a Doc I will put up the Quotes... one was $6700,  and the other was $8200, With a huge Electric bill and Solar payment, its hard to dig this kinda dough outta your butt, know what I mean...?

The quotes include installing the backup generator, and Automatic transfer switch, and reinstalling our hot tub, (before we knew it was garbage, destroyed by winter)   things that were supposed to be done by the installer

All I want is my house fixed, Saftey Restored, so I can sleep again at at night...  After 2 fires I haven't had a good nights sleep in years !!!

And its almost winter and my Heating unit still doesn't work, Winter is gonna Suck again this year !!!


Flint

Rolla,
Missouri,
United States
That makes more sense

#3Consumer Suggestion

Tue, November 07, 2017

If the panel and electrical service was replaced, then the problems you are having make more sense.  I'm an electrical engineer, and it sounds to me like you have two problems: a loose neutral or some total wiring c**k-up (which fried your appliances earlier), and a bunch of incompetent clowns looking at your system.  I understand a bunch of people have looked at the system, but insurance adjusters and solar panel installers are not necessarily qualified to diagnose anything.  You need to hire your own electrician, ideally someone with a decent amount of experience and appropriate test equipment.  Before they start doing anything, they need to figure out what exactly is wrong with your electrical service and what needs to be done to fix it.  If they want to start replacing stuff before having spent an hour or two diagnosing the issues, find somebody else.  Either way, get somebody to fix the problems, then sue the previous company for the damages you incurred.  That's the only way to fix this.

By the way, ground leakage current isn't costing you money.  It just indicates that there is a problem with the service entrance.

 


John

Lucerne valley,
California,
United States
Did that already

#4Author of original report

Mon, November 06, 2017

Panel upgrade went badly,  breakers and wires were hooked up incorrectly,  incomming power on the roof was also hooked up incorrectly, which caused a power surge Thru my whole house... Appliances were Physically on FIRE during the panel upgrade... It was like something out of a movie   

Owner of the Electrical company came out the next day and took responsability. replaced TV's and Computers, and a few other things that we knew about at the time... over the next few days we discovered that almost nothing worked anymore and we have been replacing things one at a time since then...

Since then we had another fire in the Electrical system, had Edison, 2 different Electricians, fire investigator, homeowners insurance and a few other people out to look at the damage Everyone Says its The Solar system Causing the problems.... 

The home was completely remodeled down to the bones 2 years before we had the solar system installed, I find it difficult to believe that over a dozen Brand New Appliances, Switches, Outlets, Ceiling fans, computers, washer, dryer, have all FAILED in less that 3 years,  Sure your going to have a nominal rate of failure on any Electronic appliances,  but when this many things Fail, and all at the same time,  What would you call it ???

Edison has been here on multiple occasions and of course they say it is not their fault, Horizon Solar has been here over 28 times, and they still can't figure out what the problems is,  both of the Electricians have confirmed GROUND LEAKAGE, Measureable Current at the ground rods...Electricity going right into the Ground that I am paying for every month,  This has been brought to Sunruns, and Horizons Attention on more than one occasion.  Neither of them want to accept responsability, and get the problem fixed,  I am tired of paying   $2550.00  a year for a Solar System, and over $3000.00 a year to my Electric company too, Something needs to be Fixed....


Flint

Rolla,
Afghanistan
Not a solar issue

#5Consumer Suggestion

Mon, November 06, 2017

First, you should probably stop blaming Sunrun for all of your problems involving electrically powered appliances.  Light switches and outlets are purely mechanical devices; there is no possible way they can fail due to anything other than old age or abuse.  Pool pumps have a limited lifetime as well (5-10 years).  I have no idea how a solar panel install could possibly involve removing a hot tub or how it could cause $30k in damage to your electrical system (unless the installer tore all the wiring out of the walls and smashed the rest of the equipment with a baseball bat).  It sounds to me like the electrician who said that is a con artist who thinks he can make a lot of money fixing something that's not broken.

Second, you should probably hire a qualified electrician to diagnose your electrical system and make appropriate repairs.  The issue almost certainly has nothing to do with the solar equipment, and is most likely something like a loose neutral on your service entrance, a bad meter socket, or a bad electrical panel (let me guess: Federal Pacific Electric?).  If you want proof, turn off the disconnects for the solar inverters and see if the situation improves.  In fact, I would suspect the solar inverters are tripping off due to the electrical issues, which is probably why the array isn't generating much power.  If the electrician concludes the issue is due to Sunrun, you can always sue them to recover your costs.  But I think there is almost no chance of that.  Solar equipment has all sorts of protective features and safety trips that would prevent it from operating if it is incorrectly installed.

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