Vicki from AZ
Queen Creek,#2Consumer Comment
Wed, March 21, 2012
I am so saddened and shocked to have found this about Traci. I have known Traci for 7 years and have bought 4 dogs from her, the first being in 2005. I, like Amy, wanted to get a hold of her and this is what comes up. Unbelievable!! I have never had a problem with any of my dogs purchased from Traci and she has always been helpful and honest. She was and is a professional. She handled everything down to the shipping, 2 were flown in and 2 were with ground transport without a hitch.
Some of these comments are just down right mean and totally uncalled for. I have known about Jerry and his cancer for awhile now and how devastating it has been. I know people without brain cancer who's social skills are lacking, just read some of the above.
I guess its all a moot point now since Traci unfortunately is not breeding anymore. I sure wish she was as I'm looking for a Frenchie. Leslie and Bo were lucky to find Traci and just don't know it. The more experience they have out there in the dog world they will come to realize it. My daughter bought 2 tea cup chihuahua's. Two days later at the emergency animal hosp, loaded with worms and giarrdia and very sick. Come to find out they were approximately 5 weeks old, small because way too young not tea cup. Turned out to be Chiweenies. Breeder would not answer phone calls or emails, took the money and ran. That's the kind of Breeders that are out there, happens all the time. Needless to say papers never showed up for the Chiweenies either.
I'm really sorry Traci
PrivateEye4Hire
miami,#3Consumer Comment
Sun, March 11, 2012
Ok guys...
I love to scour this site and find rip off artists to torture, especially animal people that are unscrupulous or abusive. I have animals, and very much an animal lover.
I looked into the breeder the original poster complained about, and its a pretty stand up operation. I have no reason to lie, and to be honest i wish they werent so i could try to get em.
Obviously a missunderstanding, and both sides are understandable.
Seller offered a new dog, or a refund.. BUT really.. once you get a new dog you usually fall inlove and cant give it back. Its natural that the buyer is upset because the fact is, rather accident or not, she was missrepresented.
Its a tough situation, but no reason to really bash Seller, Although it really wouldnt have hurt for the seller to refund a small bit of cash for the missunderstanding.
You are both animal lovers... no reason to get nasty ;)
Amy
Argyle,#4General Comment
Mon, March 05, 2012
Hey Traci,
You can call my cell 319-795-6010. All you other crazy's on here call if you like I'll let you know what I think :)
Hope to hear from you Traci!
Amy
ME
United States of America#5REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, March 05, 2012
Hi Amy. Thank you. I cannot post my email in here. I am not sure how to get in touch with you? I do not want to post my # on here or the nut cakes may call... Tell you what? On Thursday you can call the Brooklyn,IA Farm and Family Vet Clinic. Ask for Sarah. Tell her the name of the horse you bought from us. That way I will know it is legit. Then give her your email address. I will email you. I have to take my old Chihuahua kids in to get their teeth cleaned. So I will check with her. OK? Hope you are well.
Amy
Argyle,#6General Comment
Sun, March 04, 2012
Athough I have not bought a dog from Traci and her husband I did buy a horse back in the summer of 2005 which looks to be when this puppy was born. I just happened across this thread when I googled Traci to find out how I could contact her. I had lost her information years ago after I bought a horse from them and today as I was going through old papers came across her address with the papers I had recieved on my horse from her and her husband. I was sickened when I started reading these nasty comments about her and her husband. I didn't know Traci or Jerry, just inquired about a horse that they had for sale and got directions to come see the horse. When I got to their place I noticed two litters of pups out in their yard enjoying the fresh air. She had a litter of each and they looked to be about 5-6 weeks old. They were the cutest, most healthy, sociable pups I have seen. If I could of afforded one I would of got one in a heartbeat. I work in dog rescue and I see and hear horror stories about some breeders which are called puppy mill breeders. Those type of breeders their dogs are locked in cages out in old barns, or trailers with no interaction or love given to them. They would never be let outside on a beautiful day to get fresh air. Traci seemed very knowledgable about breeding and you could tell she truly cared about her dogs and their happiness. Its a shame that someone would start a horrible thread on someone over something so trivial. All of this should of been handled between Traci and the buyer not a slam fest on the interenet. If you love your puppy so much and its healthy like she promised you should be thrilled. Who gives a crap who the sire is if your not planning on breeding or showing. Most of my dogs are "mutts" that heartless people chose to dump on my road that I have rescued and I wouldn't trade them for the world. I love them for them, not for what blood lines they came from. Seriously if this is all you have to worry about in your life your pretty d**n lucky. To Traci and Jerry, I wish the best for you and want you to know you are both in my prayers.
Amy Benson
Argyle, Iowa
ME
United States of America#7REBUTTAL Individual responds
Tue, December 13, 2011
I am no longer breeding dogs. I got out. For several reasons, one being people like Leslie and "Bo". The other being my husband's health.
To" Bo"- I have NEVER said any puppy was show quality. Not ever. I will state show potential only. It is a basic principal of mine and one I have been very vocal about. I had a whole page on my website dedicated to why a breeder cannot promise a dog is show quality. Guess you did not read that. Which your lovely little cream guy was at that point. When you purchased your little boy, he had no scars. None. I do think now it was probably from a vaccination given. So I guess being a good breeder and vaccinating pups is another no no, it may cause a scar and then people can come on this ridiculous board and post.
My adult dog was just vaccinated and chipped. It was 2 weeks post and she also got a scar. Forgive me for not remembering just the exact situation yours was....
I am so very happy I will never have to deal with people like you ever again.
As far as my husband, and this is actually why I did reply to this silliness, he has brain cancer. He has had a couple of very aggressive tumors removed from his brain. His cancer is terminal but he just keeps on fighting for his life. At the expense of short term memory, social interaction and impulse control. That is where his cancer grows. That is what they are removing when they do surgery. For you to say he acted clueless and that he only said you owed us money. Wow. I am constantly reminded just how horrible most people are.
At the time your pup was being raised, we were also dealing with this terminal illness along with a serious car accident I was in. Was your pup sick? Scared of people? Filthy in his cage? Neglected? Anything other than this scar wrong? So perhaps that gives credit to me, a breeder who cared. Do you have any idea how many people begged me not to sell all of my dogs? How many actually shed tears that I would no longer be in this? Far more than these 2 with their axes to grind.
As for your claims of scaring other buyers off. So what? If they were like you, I am glad they went elsewhere. It is people like you who drove me from breeding. I produced some of the best pups anywhere to be found. It was not my dogs or their pups that drove me from this, it was people like this. The stupidity, the sense of entitlement, the ignorance, the me factor that so many people seem to possess these days.
As a breeder, God help you if you do not do what a buyer thinks is right, no matter how ignorant they are. However, it is not a two way street. Instead of discussing concerns with you the breeder, they go on places like this or tell anyone who will listen to stay away from you. When they want a puppy, they will agree to anything, they are your best friend, accepting, do anything for you. Then they take a puppy home and it breaks wind and boy are you in trouble, especially with all the clueless vets around these days backing them up, fostering their ignorance, emptying their wallet and also blaming a breeder. Or they are the type who do not treat dogs correctly and suddenly, you the breeder has produced a bad dog, and yes, it is GENETIC. All because some owner treated his pup like a baby, instead of a dog. It is not them, never them, it is YOU the breeder always. "Bo", you did not have to take that pup, I would have gladly had Jerry stay home and refunded you.
As far as this site. They do remove posts. They have lied. They removed several off of this thread. I have them all saved in a file. I no longer care however. But do not be fooled. I can call YOU out for having an affair with my married best friend if I want. Or dancing in some state of undress in some public place. No proof needed. There is no accountability anywhere anymore and people like Ol Ed here get rich off it. And people like Leslie and "Bo" who come on here and get the attention they were obviously not getting in their real lives get to state whatever they wish.
This site also has head hunters. People who keep an eye on things going on in the person who is being attacked, either unfairly or fairly. I once posted something purposely on my website, spelling a town incorrectly. It was only a short matter of time before I got an email from a concerned party, having been born and raised in _____ (insert purposely mispelled city) and imploring me to defend myself on here. Too funny. Every time a new post (rebuttal, etc) goes up, this site is boosted in the Google ratings, once again, lining Ed's pockets. GENIUS! They also (Sarah from Yorkton) have their people post just to fan the flames.
To my loyal customers and those who became and still are my good friends, thank you for all of your support through these years while we struggled to hang on through illness and other breeders ripping us off for thousands,sending starving, pregnant dogs to us, etc... Thank you for recogonizing quality and for giving our pups the very best of everything.
To people like Leslie and "Bo", I sincerely hope that one day, you find something of substance to pay attention to. I hope that your pups (which you are not happy with)you bought from us continue to give you joy and love even though I am quite certain you do not deserve it. Perhaps the one you love above all else will lose parts of themselves slowly to an awful disease and some person will post nasty things about them. I hope so. It may teach you something which you need to learn.
To all potential breeders, think very long and hard before you get into this. People such as this exist and they seem to enjoy this sort of thing. As many wonderful people you will meet, there are quite a few wingnuts.
A sad thing about this? Some very good breeders are retiring. So when people like this want a purebred, you will pay much much more and they will be few and far between, at least the good ones. My one, and yes it is vindictive, wish is for people like you to get ahold of a bad breeder, who sells pups that will only break your heart and your bank account. That may teach you self absorbed folks a lesson. But then that means pups are suffering along with their parents, back at the mill.
A very good friend of mine also got out of breeding. Her reason? Every puppy has a buyer and too many of them are nuts. Amen. I miss my dogs. I do not miss people like this.
Devilsadvocate4education*just My Opinions*
Las Vegas,#8Consumer Comment
Thu, March 12, 2009
I am curious as to whether or not your pup had recieved a rabies vaccine in particular before going home with you? These strange bald spots seem to be occuring after vaccine recently. Rabies in particular. A lot do grow back EVENTUALLY (long time). Just wondering about the possibility that could be a reason for the scar. It can also happen occasionally from chip implantation, but not very often.
Bo
Wayzata,#9Consumer Suggestion
Tue, February 17, 2009
I purchased a French Bulldog from Traci a few months ago. Before sending her the $500 security deposit for my pup, I googled her name and found this thread. Needless to say it worried me, but I felt that the original complaint filed by Lesley was a bit of a technicality and it did not concern me as I was only looking for a pet. This is my first dog and Traci was very helpful with my questions about the breed. Like many of us, I always have concerns about sending a large sum of money to a complete stranger over the internet. When it's a down payment on a dog I have never seen (in person) it is even more stressful. She did a great job of calming my nerves, so I sent the money out. Traci agreed to meet me about an hour and a half from my house for the exchange. This is where things take a bad turn. My dog was listed for $1800 and as "Show Quality". I had no plans to show him, so without the papers he was $1600. The morning that I was going to meet her husband for the drop off, I received this email from her. From: Traci ([email protected]) Sent: Sat 12/13/08 10:30 PM "My husband's cell. 319 350 ****. His name is Jerry. I do not remember if i Told you this. He got a scrape on the top of his shoulders a couple of weeks ago. Not a deep cut, just a scrape. It scabbed, the scab is gone and it is now growing hair back. Just wanted to let you know that if I did not tell you already." This was the first mention of the scar my dog has. When I met her husband for the drop off, the first thing he said to me was "You owe me some money". He acted very clueless about the pups, not sure which one was mine, and said if there were any questions, email Traci. The scar is on the center of his back, it is about the size of a "pinkie" fingerprint. I have been to the vet three times for shots and check ups, they have each told me not to get my hopes up for hair growing back. The scar is noticeable enough that when a friend meets my pup for the first time it's "Oh he is sooooo cute...what happened to his back?" I want to make clear that my dog is healthy and happy and pretty much the cutest living being around. Had she been honest with me about the scar when I was shopping for pups it's hard to say if I would have bought him. It is not in my nature to complain about tiny issues, I did not try to contact Traci for any sort of refund. With that said, 3 of my friends have purchased Frenchies since I got mine. They all came to me and said "Where did you get him?" I showed them her website, and then strongly advised them not to trust their business with her. I am not reporting this to attack Traci. I am simply stating the facts, in hopes of educating future buyers of my experience. Thanks and good luck!
Honeyfrog
Chesapeake City,#10Consumer Comment
Mon, December 29, 2008
I bought a 10 mo. old, spayed, female Frenchie from Traci back in late August of this past year. She had had a minor health problem in the past, which Traci fully disclosed to me. She also fully disclosed that the dog was not show quality. She was 100% helpful in setting up transportation, (which by the way, does cost quite a bit more than $75 but wow! was the transport company Traci referred us to great) helping me through the PayPal process, which I had never used before, giving us tips on training and what kind of food was best. We love our Frenchie, and the few minor health problems she had were, in my vet's words, completely normal for the Frenchie breed. Our PL's Honey by George is a wonderful member of our family and everyone loves her, we had no problems whatsoever in getting her registered. I cannot say what happened with anybody else, but I have recommended Traci's site and that of Get-M-Home Pet transport to anyone who asks where I got my fabulous FrogDog.
Sarah
Bozeman,#11Consumer Comment
Thu, November 16, 2006
I known none of these people, but had already chosen Traci's site for potentially purchasing a dog in the near future. Just this morning, we had an email correspondence. Afterwards, I was doing additional research - looking for just this type of thing - and found this thread. I would like to let you know, Traci, that nothing in this thread would make anyone think twice about buying from you. If anything, it confirms my suspicion that you are the right person to buy from. I know it must be very difficult to known your names comes up in this context in a google search, but I honestly do not believe you need to respond any further. I mean no disrespect to Leslie, am sorry for her dissatisfaction and won't engage in any arguing on this thread (probably won't ever check it again), but I wanted to let you know that as a potential buyer, I don't believe you need to say anything further to explain yourself.
Monica
Janesville,#12Consumer Comment
Thu, August 17, 2006
As I was surfing the net, I came upon this thread and one from the squeaky wheel. Traci is an ex friend of mine but I must say this thread, as entertaining as it is, has gotten too big. I can personally say that Traci does have great knowledge of dogs and breeding. I cannot say I have seen her kennel set up, but I can say that she knows her dogs. I can also tell you that her private life needs to stay private right now - dealing with cancer is difficult to say the least. My prayers go out to her and her family. No further comments.
Sarah
Yorkton,#13Consumer Comment
Sat, August 05, 2006
Traci,
Sorry but I DO know you and I think it is certainly nice of your sister to tell everyone how clean your kennels are. Family should support each other. Your website starts with stories - you have not been breeding "Frenchies" for 15 years. Schnauzers are the breed you are forgetting I think.... and yes - you had Mastiffs.
I believe the people who look to you to buy a dog should be aware of what they are getting. A person who breeds to breed and not improve the breed is, in my opinion, a backyard breeder at best.
By the way, $75.00 is what your husband tells his buddies is the cost for shipping - he laughs when he tells how the website says it is much more to ship!
I am sure you will have a great response but those of us who really know YOU, know the truth.
Marlene
Thompsontown,#14Consumer Comment
Mon, July 10, 2006
I have just read ALL of this... and I took the time to "sign up" just to respond... I have to agree with Traci and her supporters... Lesly is really SO wrong to set out to damage Tracis reputation as a GOOD breeder and importer... on SUCH a small complaint... and one that Traci tried HARD to remedy...
I TOO agree with free speech...everyone should be able to express their opinion... But the internet seems to have allowed a whole lot of people with nothing better to do--to just spout off about ANYTHING and ANYONE..without getting all the facts.. and people really SHOULD be made to be accountable when their "opinion" hurts another persons reputation... BEFORE the internet--these same people would never have taken the steps necessary to be heard (radio--newspapers) but look out NOW... they can post for all the world to see what THEY think...regardless of the FACTS.
I guess we have to take the good with the bad internet wise... But with all the REALLY bad breeders--importers... complete rip off artists and HORRID puppymills out there it AMAZES me that Traci is under attack and even under attack for DEFENDING herself!!! It FINE to attack her... but if she DEFENDS herself then she "has something to hide!.... absolutely UNBELIEVABLE... and I am hoping the people that may read this will SEE the folly in THAT attitude...
Lesly got a REAL bargain for ANY healthy bulldog for $1600.... and AKC to boot!!! And who am I to speak??? a 32 year AKC breeder... who happens to own two of the BEST Frenchies God put on the earth... both FROM Traci Milbrett...
Renee
Fallbrook,#15Consumer Comment
Mon, July 10, 2006
I purchased a male puppy from Traci Milbrett in April of 2005. His sire is Super Bulli La Monarchia-Mirabeau and I have the AKC paperwork to prove that. I also paid $2300 plus shipping for this fantastic healthy puppy and he was worth every penny of it. This women slandering Traci bought her puppy for a fantastic price for this breed. $1600 for a HEALTHY, AKC registerable, Champion lined pedigreed puppy is a fantastic price that anyone else would have been thrilled about.
The fact that a simple mistake was made and Traci tried to correct it reasonably goes to show she is honest and human. You do not get a free or super discounted puppy because you are an unreasonable person who throws a tantrum and gets nasty. That puppy sounds worth every penny of $1600 that Traci sold her for. Mistakes are made in any reputable business from time to time. Someone should not be crucified because they have made one and tried to reasonable correct it. I applaud Traci for stick up for herself. She has been nothing but helpful, kind, and honest with me. We love our French Bulldog that we purchased from her over a year ago. This women needs to get a life and quit making everyone around her miserable.
Abbie
Madison Lake,#16Consumer Comment
Thu, July 06, 2006
After reading both sides including the 2 people who responding one supporting Leslie and one not, I feel that this is an unfair, unjust post towards Puppy Love Kennels. I visit the puppy love website often always searching to add another beautiful HEALTHY dog to my group. It is stated very clearly that pet price for a puppy of that quality is in the 1500-1700 range. Anyone that has done their homework and purchased Frenchies will know that a show/breed quality dog is much more then $1600. And that is clearly stated on the Puppy Love Website! So after reading that Leslie would have been fully aware that her dog was of no more then PET Quality!!
As far as being baited and switched, that is a VERY UNFAIR statement, baiting and switching is not showing you a healthy loving puppy and sending you one, it is showing you healthy puppy and sending you a sickly one, that will most likely be dead with days, after which when you try to contact that buyer they are NO Where to be found. Unlike this situation. Traci has made serveral statments on this site that states she will return the $1600 for the puppy, and find a Super Bully pup, but Leslie seems to not be willing to compromise here. Which if I were Traci, I'd take her to court for the lost time dealing with this insane complaint, and for the dog.
As far as not willing to show where she keeps her dogs. I have purchased 2 Frenchies from Puppy Love, one I purchased 2 years ago and 1 just in March. Both times I was able to come see the dogs where they live and the conditions of. The second pup I purchased I brought Nugla with and had her microchipped. I will gladly say that Traci's kennels are the best I have seen. I have been to kennels where the smell of urine is unbearable where the dogs are living in their own waste. At Traci's kennel I would be very comfortable leaving my own HOUSE Pets in her kennels. So the fact she doesn't post it on the site, is is pretty poor issue. Do you run around showing everyone where you live? Or where your dogs sleep?
The real fact Leslie wants something for a minor mistake that Traci openly admits and states over and over she is willing to correct. I would by no means offer a partial refund either.
As far as importing and it being so horrible. Well that didn't seem to be the case when Leslie purchased the dog. People import things all the time, I will bet half the things in your home are imported, you don't go off on them when it breaks or isn't up to your standards do you? You received a healthy dog, that is what you most cared about and you got that.
I think Traci is being unfairly treated, I will continue to praise her and the dogs she sells. I find that Traci is one of the best breeders out there, that is very willing to help with questions and educate new owners of Bulldogs.
Traci
Belle Plaine,#17REBUTTAL Individual responds
Fri, June 30, 2006
Ok been around animals your whole life. Have you ever flown a pup? Shipped it via airlines in the USA? Ever? Probably not. Lesley's pup was flown to her. In order to fly a pup, one must have signed by vet, FEDERAL health certificate. Try to get a pup on the plane without it. Just try. So strike one. Every pup is vet checked here. Every one. In addition, every imported pup is checked by US CUSTOMS, public health upon entering USA. So strike two. What does vet checking pups have to do with the sire? Want vet number? email me, I hand it out to buyers along with previous buyers contact, whom they can contact prior to purchasing any pup from us, be it import or bred here. Every pup here is vet checked, at least twice before going to new owner. And kept very safe in my house.
Yes please, contact AKC and the state of Iowa too. You will find that I am inspected and not red flagged with anyone. Please, check it. That is a joke, AKC only cares about record keeping, nothing else. However my state inspector, I am licensed kennel, does care about my dogs.
Have had many puppy people here, in my kennel, as well as those with bitches who want to breed. People want photos of chain link fences and the wrought iron one in the backyard? Really..
You are really going to sit there and tell me that if I put the owners names on those testamonials, as in Joe Q. Or Sue P. that makes them real and they are not now? Visit puppyfind, you will find names there.. if they chose to leave them.
Yup bred Rotts, adored them. Then they got popular and everyone got any Rott they could, bred them and destroyed the breed. Poodles? What? Um no. Mastiffs, my friend has mastiffs, she uses my site to advertise them. Bulldogs, yup still breed them have for years. You forgot Chis.. got them too. What does that have to do with anything at all?
When an innocent person is accused of things that are so ridiculous, when that person's reputation is being threatened by unfounded, ridiculous statements, the innocent person defends themselves. I cannot abide people throwing their opinions around when that is all they are, not based in fact. You do NOT know me. You KNOW NOTHING about me. Yet you presume much. Being around animals your whole life does not give you the right to presume you know me or why I defend myself. In fact, it only proves you are the type who likes to stir up trouble. A Lesley hanger on.
As far as Svetlana? Would you like to see the emails in which she apologizes for making this mistake? We emailed each other over it. I was very upset.I saved them all. Or how about the ones she sent me just a short time ago with her new litter of French Bulldogs. Be careful, I am a careful person and although I certainly made a mistake with Lesley, I have proof to back up every fact I state here, including Svetlana's mistake on this sire. In fact she made it again a month ago. However, this has taught me to clarify and I did. I have that email as well. Again, she apologizes.
Just because one is savvy (i.e. intelligent and knowledgable according to my definition) does not mean they have anything to hide. It is arrogant and strange that you assume that is why I defend myself from this stupidity.
You have only given me a way to rebutt all your statements because I have proof of vet check on that pup, I am in good standing with AKC and anyone who knows me will tell you that injustice is my biggest pet peeve and I will kick and yell to defend against it. Also as Lesley is the only one who continues to yip about this (even though she was offered compensation) I do have the time. If I was what you hint I am, I would never have the time or energy to defend myself to all those unhappy people. Strike 3.
People make mistakes and this is all this was. A mistake that I tried to make right. Was not even my mistake. It was Svetlana's. However I took the accountability and tried to make it right. Lesley chose what I consider the wrong way out. In one sentence she talks about business, in another she says she cannot give up the dog. In addition, as stated earlier in this thread, she went running and whining to the people she knew would get into an uproar, using half truths and trying to ruin my reputation as an ethical and honest breeder and importer of pups. d**n right I will defend myself. I am not guilty of the things said or hinted at here. I make mistakes once in awhile and I try to correct them. That is all anyone can do. If one is not allowed to make it right, instead being blasted by histrionics and half the story, then one defends oneself. I can only think that this is somehow fulfilling in some way for Lesley. It my lifetime I have found the people who say "No Comment" to have something to hide.
Lesley
RSM,#18Author of original report
Tue, June 13, 2006
I would like to update this report and say that I believe Svetlana Ausheva of Monterey Diamand is not at fault for this mistake based on my conversation with her. She only breeds English Bulldogs, but I was told my dog was from her kennel. I was not aware that Svetlana herself did not breed my dog when she was purchased.
Sarah
Yorkton,#19Consumer Suggestion
Tue, October 18, 2005
I have been around animals my whole life. When a breeder spends this much time with rebuttals they usually have something to hide. I realize your animal was healthy, thank goodness for that, but that is exactly the first place to look when dealing with a puppy mill. It costs too much money to go to the vet with every litter. Lesley, ask Traci who the vet is and ask to see the invoice that identifies your puppy as vet checked. Then talk to the vet she mentions. Don't forget to actually talk to the vet - vital is catching scams.(I would be tempted to look up the vet in the phone book too, easy to give a cell number of a friend) Breeders with this much knowledge can easily give their own shots and wormer and skip the vet check part.
Traci also does not show where she houses her animals. I saw no place for them to be safe outside, in her yard. Just doing a short background check can show how many different breeds Traci has tried to peddle. I found Rottweilers, Mastiffs, Bulldogs, Poodles,and more. She also has testimonials from customers, tons of them, but not a single name under them. These are all things to look out for when looking for a real caring breeder. Also, when a breeder starts going international, check to see if they have been red flagged by the AKC.
Hope this helps. Traci has been around a while and is very savvy.
Traci
Belle Plaine,#20REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, September 19, 2005
To further clarify this written by Leslie"When I questioned Traci and told her my concerns she said there was a "mix-up" as to the sire, and something to the effect of "no one can breed that many dogs" in response to the kennel being different. I can only surmise that Monterey Diamand is exporting for other breeders, I have no idea if they are reputable or not". Your surmising is wrong. And also the kennel is different then I stated because the pups were registered to the other parent's owners. Just because things are done a certain way in the USA under AKC rules, does not mean they apply or work the same in Russia. Also the dam is co owned.
Traci
Belle Plaine,#21REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, September 19, 2005
To further clarify this written by Leslie"When I questioned Traci and told her my concerns she said there was a "mix-up" as to the sire, and something to the effect of "no one can breed that many dogs" in response to the kennel being different. I can only surmise that Monterey Diamand is exporting for other breeders, I have no idea if they are reputable or not". Your surmising is wrong. And also the kennel is different then I stated because the pups were registered to the other parent's owners. Just because things are done a certain way in the USA under AKC rules, does not mean they apply or work the same in Russia. Also the dam is co owned.
Traci
Belle Plaine,#22REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, September 19, 2005
To further clarify this written by Leslie"When I questioned Traci and told her my concerns she said there was a "mix-up" as to the sire, and something to the effect of "no one can breed that many dogs" in response to the kennel being different. I can only surmise that Monterey Diamand is exporting for other breeders, I have no idea if they are reputable or not". Your surmising is wrong. And also the kennel is different then I stated because the pups were registered to the other parent's owners. Just because things are done a certain way in the USA under AKC rules, does not mean they apply or work the same in Russia. Also the dam is co owned.
Traci
Belle Plaine,#23REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, September 19, 2005
To further clarify this written by Leslie"When I questioned Traci and told her my concerns she said there was a "mix-up" as to the sire, and something to the effect of "no one can breed that many dogs" in response to the kennel being different. I can only surmise that Monterey Diamand is exporting for other breeders, I have no idea if they are reputable or not". Your surmising is wrong. And also the kennel is different then I stated because the pups were registered to the other parent's owners. Just because things are done a certain way in the USA under AKC rules, does not mean they apply or work the same in Russia. Also the dam is co owned.
Traci
Belle Plaine,#24REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, September 19, 2005
First of my great gratitude to Alexandra. I am humbled by her defense of me.
Secondly I want Leslie to know that I am trying to buy the sire of your pup. He is for sale (due to financial trouble and the fact that they have kept back his son) in Russia and I would very much like to bring him to the USA and put AKC Championship on him here, if only to shut up the people who assume all imports are bad. However as he produces excellent quality pups, email me I have photos of them, his price is a bit frightening and I may have to obtain financing to do this.
My point is this, he is also red pied as is Superbully, when I got the pics, both were labeled red pied and I got confused and I mistakenly told you the wrong sire. I also in the start thought it was my suppliers fault. However after I dug into it I did understand that it was my fault. But you were already on your crusade by then. However, I do own Superbully pups and would prefer to purchase Fino.. HMMMMM.... why?
The reference made to them breeding so many dogs was in FACT not made about my supplier, it was made about the fact that Fino is high demand as he is red pied. He breeds a lot of females and in fact Superbully breeds even more. Yet you assumed I meant my supplier and never asking for clarification, added that statement to my supposed faults.
While I understand your frustration you have chosen to say things that are not totally true,you have omitted certain key facts and you are out to tear my reputation to shreds. You chose to take this fight to the people you knew would surely defend you. I could not agree more with Alexandra if I tried. If the sire had been who I thought he was, you would have remained quiet and probably praised me as well. But because I made an honest mistake and then thought I waS dealing with the situation (Offering to get a Superbully pup for you) you chose to become confrontational and run screaming to the people who oppose all imports to begin with. It is hypocrisy.
And if this were ALL business as you use to make your point up there, you would have returned that pup and gotten your Superbully pup It is business in that fact but when I offered what I offered, you claim to love her so which is it? Personal or business or both? It only proves that you prefer to slant what you want in order to say what you think sounds right.
Perhaps if I get to buy this wonderful boy, and I put AKC Championship on him then you would be happy? Afterall, then you would have your beloved pup, healthy, AKC, lovely girl with an AKC CHAMPION SIRE..
As I have stated,you chose to make this public, you chose to rant and rave and tear me down for a mistake which I thought I was making right when I offered you a Superbully pup to which you did not reply and you went on this tirade. So now any compensation I would offer to you would only be an admission of guilt or due to these tactics which I find totally undignified and repulsive.
A matter for the courts, do not forget you must come to Iowa to sue me. Remember the contract you signed? As you stated that it was about Champion sire, which is was not, I suggest you read it again and see that it says jurisdiction is Iowa.
I do import pups. I openly import as Alexandra says. You knew that as you knew your pup was imported and you had no objections to this. Now you side with the people who say that importing is horrible. Simply because I made a mistake. And again in closing, yes I did make this mistake and I offered you compensation for this "business". However you have a beautiful, highly bred, AKC registereable, healthy, IMPORTED PUP from some very good and healthy lines. You could have had your Superbully pup or a full refund,but you chose to go this route instead and honestly it would only be hush money now. I am too ethical for this. Sometimes I make mistakes, if you want to purchase a pup from us, understand I am human and have made mistakes. I do everything I can to represent the facts and to make as few mistakes as I possibly can. You can be very sure this one will never happen again.
However to insinuate that I did this knowingly is bordering on libel as you have written it. The facts are you facts as you see them. So you and your buddies on this board and the many others like them, have a great time with your facts. I lurk on these boards and in my humble opinon, the opinions expressed there are spat out in the same fashion from nearly every person there. In fact, I am vastly amused at many of the posts from these supposed expemplarary guardians of doggy health and dignity. Anyone with a contradicting theory, as in the fact of Alexandra, are shut down and shut up. Fair? No but yet you, most of you on there love to rip people up and as long as you spout their rhetoric, you are golden. Different facts? Opinions? Shut down now. How is this any different than other private, exclusive clubs who will not allow people who are different in? It isn't.
Alexandra
Lake Park,#25Consumer Suggestion
Mon, September 19, 2005
I'll tell you who I am: A person who defended Traci Milbrett, that's all. I have never done business with Traci, have never met her, but she was kind enough to step forward and offer to help with the medical well-being of a very sick French bulldog. I stated as such.
If you are so "honorable" as you claim, don't expect a "partial refund." That was not stated in the purchase as an option if you are unhappy, was it?
The reason that I "know" so much is because you went to a French bulldog BBS site, that I happened to visit, and posted all kinds of information that was only partially correct, thus leading hundreds, possibly thousands, of people to believe that Traci Milbrett is unethical. You posted your thread, "Confessions of a French bulldog importer." Then you went on to make all kinds of allegations about the character of Traci Milbrett, insinuations that damage her reputation and the "thread" or discussion was locked by your administrator when someone, myself, went there to state that Traci DID attempt to make you happy, to satisfy you, to offer a refund.
If I were Traci Milbrett I would be getting an attorney to file a lawsuit against you for making allegations that Traci Milbrett did not make a good faith effort to satisfy a mistake or a wrong.
Since when does she owe you money for a dog that you will not give back? I have been dealing with dog rescue (including puppies that could not be sold as show dogs and subsequently needed homes) for many years and I have never heard of a customer demanding a partial refund for a dog because they were not happy.
In the eyes of the legal system, Traci Milbrett made a fair and justifiable offer: Give her back the dog and she would refund your money. Having been to court over similar issues, the courts would have extended you the same offer and you would have refused - and you'd be where you are now: With a dog that you love, a dog in perfect health, and a dog that you do not want to give back. Yet you expect a refund? Absurd!
You purchased a puppy from a person who openly sells quality imported French bulldogs - that have a spay or neuter contract - and then you act as if she is a terrible person because she sells SOME imported bulldogs. You wouldn't have had a complaint and you probably wouldn't have made your "confession" if your dog had had the sire that you expected, right? You'd have kept quiet.
In other words, Traci Milbrett and her imported lines and puppies would have been perfectly acceptable - and there would never have been a thread at a French bulldog site or public BBS about "Confessions of a French bulldog importer" - if your purchase had been acceptable.
Don't you see the hypocrisy in your actions and words?
I do. And I think the rest of the United States of America and anyone reading this should also.
French bulldog importers, Traci Milbrett, and your puppy would be perfectly A-OK in your estimation if the MISTAKE of the puppy's sire hadn't been made.
To anyone reading this who is considering a French bulldog: Beware. Beware of the politics of the people who are in the United States who want to insist that imported dog breed lines are always from unreputable and dishonest people. Run away from those people. Those are the people that want to sell $3000 to $5000 puppies to a select few.
If you are going to buy an imported puppy, buy from someone reputable who DOES stand behind their puppies, imported or not.
I don't subscribe to the elitest views of a group of self-appointed snobs who govern a particular hobby, animal, or belief system. I don't care if someone imports dogs as long as someone does it RESPONSIBLY. If everyone blocked imports then eventually every single dog in this country would be related because this particular breed is rare and how good is that? It is not good. That is exactly what happened to the basenjis prompting a huge trip in 1987 to bring back more dogs from Africa.
Now, if dogs are imported from REPUTABLE sources and only the healthy representatives with proper conformation are left intact (not spayed or neutered because they are going to be SHOWN at dog shows) and allowed to reproduce then the bloodlines can only become more diffuse and better for the breed as a whole.
Traci Milbrett makes every attempt to be honest and ethical and she acted the same with you and because a mistake was made, a mistake she attempted to correct which you rejected, you want to villify her and degrade her reputation, apparently.
You should govern yourself carefully.
Lesley
RSM,#26Author of original report
Mon, September 19, 2005
It is absolutely UNTRUE that I did not ask who the sire was until after I purchased my dog. The very first email I have from Traci has a photo of Super Bully La Monarchia-Mirabeau as the sire of my dog.
Lesley
RSM,#27Author of original report
Mon, September 19, 2005
I do not know who Alexandra is or what she has to do with anything.
The facts of my complaint are just as I stated above.
I do not appreciate personal LIBELOUS statements made about my character on this website and elsewhere.
I have NEVER asked for a full refund **ONLY A PARTIAL REFUND** and I have the emails to prove that.
I am holding Traci Milbrett to the same standard I hold all businesses to. It is perfectly reasonable for me to expect to get exactly what I purchased.
This appears to be a matter for the courts to decide.
Alexandra
Lake Park,#28Consumer Suggestion
Sun, September 18, 2005
I have been to various "French bulldog" BBS or forum sites online and have seen where the supposed victim in this instance has posted misleading and erroneous information, including leaving out crucial details regarding the sale of this dog from Traci Milbrett to "Lesley," (the buyer of the puppy) such as being offered a FULL REFUND for this puppy. It is my belief that this person is out to harm Traci Milbrett's reputation because Traci Milbrett did not let her keep the puppy in question AND provide a full refund.
I feel that the complaint lodged against Traci Milbrett is completely without merit and that the supposed victim is making insinuations that border on defamation of character on the behalf of Traci Milbrett.
Traci Milbrett offered a full refund if the puppy was sent back, or an exchange of puppies. The person lodging the complaint instead wanted to keep the dog AND a full refund and because she did not get the refund and keep the dog, now she is spreading partial information and making complaints that are intended to hurt Traci Milbrett's reputation. I have seen it with myself and wanted to make a comment about it.
Incidentally, Traci Milbrett still does not know that I am posting this information.
She has always been kind and responsible and she acted appropriately in this situation and in fact, went a step further than most people would have in a similar situation.
Traci
Belle Plaine,#29REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, September 15, 2005
I cannot find the link you refer too. I can only guess that are you referring to the fact that Dr Steve Bellin of the Iowa branch has come to my home. In fact he did to check out if I needed a "BROKERS LICENSE" In fact I do not. Research me again, see if I hold one. I am in NO way USDA licensed in any capacity. The only earthly reason for being USDA is to sell to pet stores, something I never will and never have don or because you own a huge amount of dogs and cannot be hobby kennel, again I do not. The application was filled out to be in compliance with having them come in and inspect me to be sure I DID NOT need the license. Go back, look again, did I obtain one? NO. Which only proves that I do things right. The USDA does not visit you if you dont fill that out. Unless you are illegal mill and they "catch" you. Did they find anything wrong no. Am I in good standing with AKC and Iowa state, yes. I have NOTHING to hide so why not bring up USDA?
The fact that you little link there says nopuppymills.com says a lot huh? Trouble is like this site, anyone with an opinion and an ax to grind can spout off. While I believe in free speech, I do not believe that everyone who practices it has any clue what they are talking about. The definition of Puppy Mill does not apply to me in the slightest way.
In fact the true pet quality pups that I sell are either spayed or neutered before they leave us or they are required to be before the papers leave me. Your pup was not what I call strictly pet quality and unlike you and your friends I do make a distinction between show and breeding quality. If you keep up with my site, you will see in bold print, This pup will be sold on spay neuter contract. In fact I stated you got a pup that can be FULLY AKC registered should you chose to that and in fact I stated that the sire of your dog is going to be CHAMPION as soon as he finishes. Never did I say that you had a dog with bad lines or that it could not be bred. Even so that is moot point. The fact is you have a well bred pup. NO matter if Superbulli is sire or not.
The fact is at the time of sale, your pup was pet priced as she did not exhibit all the potential to be shown. Anyone knows that can change with the high quality pups. You can also buy a show potential pup that turns out to have some minor flaw, making it not a desireable show dog. Perhaps I should do as some do, put 3000 on each pup to stop people like you from buying any pup from me?
All buyers who want to keep a dog and be compensated claim BUT I LOVE THIS PUP!! Of course you do. I would not have sold you a pup had I thought you were someone who did not love that pup. But the fact of the matter is this, I have offered to replace that pup with a Superbully pup and you refused. Since her health, temperament and AKC registerability is not the issue, Superbully is, I would think that since you chose to complain about only that issue, a Superbulli pup would make you happy. What is easier for me? To get you a Superbulli pup or just pay you some hush money?
Is that pup healthy? YES Is she AKC registerable YES, did she get FCI? YES. You are only proving what I have been saying all along. I AM ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN GET ALL THOSE THINGS WITH IN AN IMPORTED PUP. You may think this is a bad review, however I rejoice in it. You, an unhappy, unwilling to take the compensation offered to you person, are telling the world that I do sell FCI, AKC registerable HEALTHY, LOVEABLE pups! This is the best testamony of all. I have many many references of happy people and you are the only one who has been unhappy. Again I have aplogized to you and offered you compensation. You say you love the dog and only wanted a pet who was spayed at 6 months. The fact is your pup has very good bloodlines as well. Superbully is not the end all be all. You seem to be stuck on the fact that you do not have a Champion sired dog, I will inform you when he finishes so you can then have a Champion sired dog. Oh and you should know this too. In certain matings, Superbully has been known to throw in tail trouble, while I stay away from that, you should know the sire of your pup? No problems. So indeed you may be fortunate that he is not the sire.
I indeed made a mistake based on a miscommunication with breeder and was willing to make it right. Had your pup had serious health issues, you would have been required to return her with vet reports, before you were compensated as well. It is how it works. However this phrase, the complete misrepresentation is so dramatic and all sweeping that it is laughable.
I know many breeders who require pet pups to be fixed or the papers are withheld. It does not work. You cannot even begin to think it does. It will with the honest ones however just as there are bad breeders, there are bad buyers.
You go out of your way to claim this pup has been spayed. Were you going to keep her intact if Superbully was father? I am thinking yes.
Again, you did not even ask me about her lineage until AFTER you purchased her. As far as our contract, it is the same regardless of what pup you buy and has nothing to do with Champion bloodlines. So the contract you signed based on CHampion Bloodlines is another untrue statement and further more, your pup does have CHAMPION Bloodlines.
If you had read the Required reading on my site, you would know why my prices are what they are.
You go on and on about Superbulli lines, telling me pet owners also want to know the bloodlines to be sure they get a pup from good lines. Most pet owners do not give a hoot, they only want a healthy pup and the fact that you are ignoring that fact that your pup COMES from healthy lines just lets me know that you just want to take me to the mat about Superbulli and nothing else, that you differ with me in what is acceptable compensation as well. Which is totally your right. You also say nothing about the dam's bloodlines, did you research them as well? Did you find that she was from healthy lines as well? Probably not.
What is you want for compensation for your pup? Tell me in no uncertain terms what you feel is fair? Also know I will ask you for proof she is spayed. And what will you do if I do compensate you? Give me rave reviews as EVERYONE else who has ever gotten a dog, whether imported or not from me, or simply people like Alexandra who has never met me and I never knew put her posting on this site? That is who I am, the one she portrays. If am so dishonest, so bad, why on earth would I even bother to repond to someone who is never going to purchase a pup from me, who emails me about a pup she rescued??? Further more why wouldnt I obtain a USDA license, deal with mass exporters where I can buy pups for 800 as long as I get a pile of them, and sell them cheap to pet stores and rake in a pile of money as well and never have to deal with things like this or defend myself. I made NOTHING on your pup. Which is fine with me because my main interest is to obtain the bloodlines I want.
Or will you crow about your victory if you are compensated? Which will it be? Shall I buy your praise? I think not.
Honestly, if you had left out that "complete misrepresentation" and communicated with me a bit more instead of just simply becoming irate and telling me you wanted money back and then stopped talking to me and did this? You maybe would have been compensated by now. Instead you chose to get on a soap box and say things which are simply not the whole truth. You chose to believe that I ripped you off purposely and with intent to commit fraud. You chose to share that opinion for all to see.
The fact that you can search around and only find you complaining about me says a lot. Been in dogs a long long time, must be doing something right to only have one unhappy customer in all this time.
I report for the world to see, the people who will purposely rip you off. They will take your money and laugh in your face when you discover you have been taken. However I have done my homework and verified that they truly were bad people on purpose before I say anything. I do not blaze away over some imagined slight.
If you had talked to me like a human being, instead of calling me out and assuming I did this on purpose, trying to say that I even posess that capacity, I may have been more charitable. As it is, you do not know me, or what I stand for or the work I do on behalf of people like you, who are searching for a healthy, AKC, loving pet or the people who want to improve their bloodlines and yes even some who want to get into showing.
This whole site is just a way to get back at people who anger you, who you do not agree with, who you are trying to force into doing what you want. It is your 15 minutes of fame.
Lesley
RSM,#30Author of original report
Fri, September 09, 2005
Sorry, the USDA inspection link was moved to:
http://www.nopuppymills.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3186
Lesley
RSM,#31Author of original report
Thu, September 08, 2005
Yes, I received the puppy pictured on your website. I have no complains about her health or temperment to date. That is not the issue. I do understand that mistakes can happen, but a simple "I'm sorry" is not sufficient to make amends. The contract I signed was based on the purchase of a Champion sired puppy. If the price was different for a Champion sired puppy, I would have no way of knowing your pricing schedule. Further, it makes me more suspicious that you knew she was not Champion sired up front.
1. Most buyers of PET purebred dogs want to know their dogs lineage. This was my first time purchasing a purebred dog, I wanted to make sure my dog was from good lines.
2. I'm not sure how you can claim you don't use mass exporters, when I have a email from you stating that the person you got my puppy from did not breed French Bulldogs herself. What do you call that other than a mass exporter?
3. Adora was spayed at 6 months of age. If you are concerned about the purchasers of your puppies breeding them, you should sell your dogs on a spay/neuter contract or spay/neuter them prior to sale.
4. Anyone interested in knowing about the USDA issue (which I didn't bring up!) is free to read information found readily using Google apparently posted by you:
http://www.usabreeders.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=11&topic_id=2737&mode=full&page=4
AND
an application for a USDA license
http://www.nopuppymills.com/inspections/insprpt41670.pdf
Lesley
RSM,#32Author of original report
Thu, September 08, 2005
Yes, I received the puppy pictured on your website. I have no complains about her health or temperment to date. That is not the issue. I do understand that mistakes can happen, but a simple "I'm sorry" is not sufficient to make amends. The contract I signed was based on the purchase of a Champion sired puppy. If the price was different for a Champion sired puppy, I would have no way of knowing your pricing schedule. Further, it makes me more suspicious that you knew she was not Champion sired up front.
1. Most buyers of PET purebred dogs want to know their dogs lineage. This was my first time purchasing a purebred dog, I wanted to make sure my dog was from good lines.
2. I'm not sure how you can claim you don't use mass exporters, when I have a email from you stating that the person you got my puppy from did not breed French Bulldogs herself. What do you call that other than a mass exporter?
3. Adora was spayed at 6 months of age. If you are concerned about the purchasers of your puppies breeding them, you should sell your dogs on a spay/neuter contract or spay/neuter them prior to sale.
4. Anyone interested in knowing about the USDA issue (which I didn't bring up!) is free to read information found readily using Google apparently posted by you:
http://www.usabreeders.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=11&topic_id=2737&mode=full&page=4
AND
an application for a USDA license
http://www.nopuppymills.com/inspections/insprpt41670.pdf
Lesley
RSM,#33Author of original report
Thu, September 08, 2005
Yes, I received the puppy pictured on your website. I have no complains about her health or temperment to date. That is not the issue. I do understand that mistakes can happen, but a simple "I'm sorry" is not sufficient to make amends. The contract I signed was based on the purchase of a Champion sired puppy. If the price was different for a Champion sired puppy, I would have no way of knowing your pricing schedule. Further, it makes me more suspicious that you knew she was not Champion sired up front.
1. Most buyers of PET purebred dogs want to know their dogs lineage. This was my first time purchasing a purebred dog, I wanted to make sure my dog was from good lines.
2. I'm not sure how you can claim you don't use mass exporters, when I have a email from you stating that the person you got my puppy from did not breed French Bulldogs herself. What do you call that other than a mass exporter?
3. Adora was spayed at 6 months of age. If you are concerned about the purchasers of your puppies breeding them, you should sell your dogs on a spay/neuter contract or spay/neuter them prior to sale.
4. Anyone interested in knowing about the USDA issue (which I didn't bring up!) is free to read information found readily using Google apparently posted by you:
http://www.usabreeders.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=11&topic_id=2737&mode=full&page=4
AND
an application for a USDA license
http://www.nopuppymills.com/inspections/insprpt41670.pdf
Alexandra
Lake Park,#34Consumer Comment
Thu, September 08, 2005
My name is Mrs. Garvin and I work privately helping re-home animals (for 5+ years) that need new homes for various reasons, including being dropped off at various shelters because of extreme medical problems.
Earlier this year one of the dogs that I had the opportunity to help was/is a little 5-month old French bulldog. The dog had been imported from Budapest, Hungary to New York City through a broker who promptly resold the dog to a young man for almost $3000 claiming that the dog was a "champion." The puppy was only 5 weeks old at the time of import and quickly developed severe health issues, including infected eyes and ears and an extreme skin condition. The young man did not have the ability or resources to care for this puppy and he contacted me to intervene on her behalf.
I have taken care of a lot of dogs, cats, and birds over the years, but have never had the opportunity or experience of taking care of a French bulldog. They are unique dogs and have unique needs based on their physical structure and temperament, which is usually very sensitive.
This puppy had a condition known as "cherry eye," which is where the tear ducts pop up and out of the eyes and can become severely infected and problematic. The problem can be left alone, which can become uncomfortable for the dog and/or become infected, and is very unsightly; the problem can be resolved through microsurgery to replace the tear ducts; or the problem can be resolved through removal of the tear ducts if the first two options fail for one reason or another.
I chose to provide the surgery to the puppy in question because I felt that her tear ducts should be saved if at all possible and to date, one month later, she is doing fabulously.
HOWEVER, one of the things that I did do was to contact some of the top French bulldog people in the United States and one of those persons was Traci Milbrett. She took the time to write to me and explain all of the various benefits of certain options regarding the eyes of this dog, and of bulldogs in general, and was so very helpful with regard to diet recommendations, care of the puppy, and just general overall support and empathy. She went way above and beyond my expectations regarding support of this little dog and was truly concerned about the puppy's welfare and well-being.
Traci Milbrett is NOT the type of person who is dishonest or deceitful. In fact, she does not even know that I am posting this rebuttal at BadBusinessBureau.com as I only found it by accident when trying to obtain her email address to send her my thanks again...along with the thanks of the little French bulldog.
Please do not put Traci Milbrett in the category of the very people that she has been trying to educate potential bulldog owners AGAINST for many years. She and her website are so very informative and if you were to visit her website or speak to her via email you will know that this is a person who genuinely LOVES this breed and a person who cares - deeply - about her animals.
I can only say wonderful things about Traci Milbrett. The world needs more people like her, not less.
Traci
Belle Plaine,#35REBUTTAL Owner of company
Tue, August 23, 2005
I have been breeding Bulldogs for 16 years. I have been importing pups for over 3 now. It is important to note I import pups for my own breeding stock, not merely to make money. (in fact I pay over twice to my breeders what most people pay to their mass exporters and I make little to nothing on the pups I sell) I keep the pups I like and offer the others to homes. In fact, I am one of the few, VERY few people you can get an excellent, healthy, registered imported pup from and am a watch dog for bad imported pups.
A Broker is one who imports pups for resale only. I do not do this and it is a fact, I import to better my breeding stock first and foremost. Also I work with 2 breeders only. I do not use mass exporters as the rest of the people do. I have references to back me up, as well as my own healthy imported dogs. As a matter of fact, if you buy only to resell you MUST have a USDA Brokers License. I do not, go ahead and search USDA. I am Iowa licensed hobby kennel ONLY. And yes the USDA knows me. I am not an illegal mill.
Leslie is correct. I was told the sire to her pup was Super Bully. When the pedigree came, she informed me it was not. I contacted breeder who apologized. Please note, she did get FCI on her pup. Most imported pups do not get real FCI, Leslie did. Which will enable her to AKC this pup which she paid 1600.00, pet puppy price. Most people are told by breeders and the French Bulldog Rescue people never to buy an import at all as they are:
1. Unhealthy
2. Have false or NO FcI papers
Leslie got a beautiful, healthy, FCI registered, highly socialized, tattooed, micro chipped, AKC registerable pup. Yes the sire was incorrect. I do not recall saying anything about anyone breeding too many dogs. It was merely a misunderstanding between myself and the breeder of this pup.
I did tell Leslie she could certainly return the pup and I would get her a Super Bully pup or refund her money. This is what any breeder would do in this case. Leslie signed a contract with us. We sent her the pup she chose, vaccinated, dewormed, healthy and papered. This is in no way a bait and switch. It would be had I sent her a pup she had not chosen. She chose this pups and this pup is what she got.
Leslie makes me sound very cavalier with the statement she makes about if she is not breeding or showing, why care who the sire is. Although I will confess I do not understand, if one is not going to show or breed a dog, one simply wants a pet, why one would buy it based on a sire? She may have researched his pedigree but that is all she did. She has not and never will meet the sire who lives in Russia. So it is not as if she was basing anything on that. However I am suspicious of her motives and suspect that possibly she did not tell me the whole truth and possibly did want to breed this female. It is usually only breeders that would get this upset over a sire.
At any rate, it was an honest mistake on my part. Again, I did offer her another pup or a refund if she sent the pup back. If Leslie had been a breeder or wanting to show, she would have paid a lot more for this pup and then I could understand her anger.Bloodlines are important in breeding. They are important too as far as health in a pet. I would like to say that the sire and dam of Leslie's pup are also very healthy and good representatives of the breed. In fact, the sire should be Championed in another year or so, will that make you happy, that you have a Champion sired pup then? I can inform you when he does finish.
Further more you purchased the pup and only after you had sent deposit you asked who sire was. Before that you did not ask.
I have emails from Leslie telling me how healthy, happy and loving her pup was. How pleased she was with her as well. I do not feel that at 1600 for a pet pup, any refund was warranted. If I had charged her a 2000 price because the dog was sired by Super Bully, yes. If the pup had been ill then yes. We have a guarantee that covers that situation. Please note, in no part of her report does she have anything negative to say about her pup, only that her pet pup was not Champion sired. A pup she plans only to love and keep as a pet. We state that health is #1 with us and this merely proves it.
To Leslie, I extend the same offer again. Return this pup you are so unhappy with, because it is not sired by a Champion (although it does have Champion bloodlines) along with the FCI pedigree with signed AKC transfer and I will refund your 1600 or I will get you a Super Bulli pup, your choice. I just got a litter certainly sired by this CH male. I apologized to you once, I am again. However you do not get to keep this pup and get your money back. If you are so very unhappy with that fact, return her. This was not done on purpose, I would never do such a thing. I guard my reputation, and invite anyone with comment, question or anyone wanting to see my site where there is a list of known scammers to email me. My email is [email protected] My site address is listed by Leslie.
This is my final offer and although I will not threaten legal action at this time, do not tell people I do bait and switch ever again. You got the pup you bought. ALso the phrase " complete misrepresentation" is just a bit much. Is she is she/was she not:
1. Purebred French Bulldog
2. Brindle female the one you chose based on photos on my site, the VERY same pup
3. FCI registered, eligible for AKC
4. Vaccinated, dewormed
5. Healthy
6. Highly socialized
7. Out of the dam I told you, by the way the one you probably did not research
8. Tattoed and micro chipped
The answer to all of the above is yes.
I could have baited and switched you. I had several pups here brindle, females, with Super Bully as dad. I suppose I could have sent you one of those? If I were the dishonest person you claim I am, I would have registered my female, brindle female by Super Bully, with AKC then I would have transferred it on to you. you would have never known the difference. But I did not. It did not occur to me until just now in my anger over these unjust accusations.
I will agree with the closing statements on doing research. Do all you can. Yes do learn about people who import. There are a lot of very sick, very poorly bred, unregisterable pups flooding this country. Sent here by people trying to make a buck being sold by people trying to make bigger bucks. Please, visit my site.