Complaint Review: University Of Phoenix - Phoenix Arizona

I think that any student who clearly plagiarizes work by trying to claim another's words or ideas as their own should be expelled from any school. If they are cutting and pasting the exact words from the internet and not even paraphrasing without proper citation, then he is a moron and I cannot see how he has not been expelled by now. If that is truly the case than I agree, that is a travesty and I can understand your frustration. Have you spoke directly to the individual? He should be embarrassed with himself. How did you catch his plagiarism? Did you present the proof to our teacher? Let's not talk about this in hear any more. Check you UoP e-mail, I responded to your's.

I am not sure how much more directly I could have dealt with your particular instance. I called you on it right in the class newsgroup. I then took, or returned, every phonecall you made to me to discuss it. The only thing I did not do that the others did was go easy on you. I told you clearly and directly where I stood on all matters at hand. And even though I acknowledged that you had merely cited your piece wrong and had not intentionally plagiarized, you hung onto it and took it personally everytime I made a reference to plagiarism in the main newsgroup, which was a problem in that class. As far as worrying about myself, I am only worrying about myself when I bring up these issues. As I have stated numerous times, I do not want the integrity of my degree tainted by a school that allows this sort of thing to happen. School is great, family is great, and my career couldn't be better. 3.90 with one class to go. I am so happy that it focuses on ethics and critical thinking, I promise to raise holy hell if I get the chance. As far as being happier if I just worry about myself,I am extremely happy. I will be happy no matter what comes of my idealistc quest. My workload and responsibilities are no burden as I thrive on career, school, and family. I look forward to teaching my children how to work at their studies and any other endeavors honestly as I watch other parents teach their children how to cheat their way through school. So we both agree that you did not purposely plagiarize. Where do you stand on people who cut and paste their work directly from internet websites without any citation and acting as if it was their own work? Do you think that is acceptable according to the University's Academic Honesty policy? (Trust me, we had two class mates in that class that were doing just as I claim and now there is one from that class and one new one that are cutting and pating away. When I told the professor that there was plagiarism going onin one class, he posted a note toall to cite their work. The main cutter and paster was the only one to reply to the professors post with a "thanks for the reminder" and kept right on cutting and pasting.) Can you answer that question without giving some qualifying conditions or sidestepping? What is your stance on people who purposely plagiarize their work?

That is an interesting way of putting it. As I remember it I had spoken with everyone else in the group already about the incident, and it was agreed upon that the whole thing was blown out of proportion and I had plenty of time to redo my section. I never said anything about you "hurting my feelings," I said you were singling me out and did not have the balls to deal with me directly. Even the teacher said the whole thing was a mistake and something we should resolve amongst ourselves. I never claimed any information as mine and I cited the info from the exact location I found it. Yes, it a meager section, and after taking the tutorial on citing for a refresher I realized I did not cite it correctly, but it was not intentional. I also redid the section when given the chance. I had asked you to talk with me because you were the one making the biggest deal of anyone, and making the issue very personal, but you appeared to be avoiding the issue. I like dealing with people directly when there is a problem. In fact, if you want to continue making this personal, why don't you let me know and we can do so directly. I don't mean that as a threat as we are on opposite coasts, but this gets old! I admit I was not Learning Team member that class and for that I apologized for that then, and I will do so again to you personally. I had a lot of personal stuff going on at the time and way too much on my plate, but I take full responsibility for being the weak link. I am not proficient with PowerPoint, but I have had plenty of Learning Team mates that were not either, it is not something unique to me. You seemed like a very decent guy when I spoke to you directly, one who has plenty on his plate as is with a restaurant to run and a young family. This is why I don't understand why you don't just worry more about yourself, and give your fellow classmates the benefit of the doubt and assume they are not intentionally cheating and deal with them directly first. Try to help them before you set out to hurt them; that is why I use the term snitching and ratting. I was not raised to deal with situations that way. As I have grown, my belief that is cowardly to deal with authority figures rather than a person directly has only strengthened. I do not think that is criminal or an admission of guilt. School is going well, I only have my Capstone class left and I presently have a 3.26 GPA. Thank you for asking. How about you Brad? How is school, your family and your restaurant?

That is an interesting way of putting it. As I remember it I had spoken with everyone else in the group already about the incident, and it was agreed upon that the whole thing was blown out of proportion and I had plenty of time to redo my section. I never said anything about you "hurting my feelings," I said you were singling me out and did not have the balls to deal with me directly. Even the teacher said the whole thing was a mistake and something we should resolve amongst ourselves. I never claimed any information as mine and I cited the info from the exact location I found it. Yes, it a meager section, and after taking the tutorial on citing for a refresher I realized I did not cite it correctly, but it was not intentional. I also redid the section when given the chance. I had asked you to talk with me because you were the one making the biggest deal of anyone, and making the issue very personal, but you appeared to be avoiding the issue. I like dealing with people directly when there is a problem. In fact, if you want to continue making this personal, why don't you let me know and we can do so directly. I don't mean that as a threat as we are on opposite coasts, but this gets old! I admit I was not Learning Team member that class and for that I apologized for that then, and I will do so again to you personally. I had a lot of personal stuff going on at the time and way too much on my plate, but I take full responsibility for being the weak link. I am not proficient with PowerPoint, but I have had plenty of Learning Team mates that were not either, it is not something unique to me. You seemed like a very decent guy when I spoke to you directly, one who has plenty on his plate as is with a restaurant to run and a young family. This is why I don't understand why you don't just worry more about yourself, and give your fellow classmates the benefit of the doubt and assume they are not intentionally cheating and deal with them directly first. Try to help them before you set out to hurt them; that is why I use the term snitching and ratting. I was not raised to deal with situations that way. As I have grown, my belief that is cowardly to deal with authority figures rather than a person directly has only strengthened. I do not think that is criminal or an admission of guilt. School is going well, I only have my Capstone class left and I presently have a 3.26 GPA. Thank you for asking. How about you Brad? How is school, your family and your restaurant?

That is an interesting way of putting it. As I remember it I had spoken with everyone else in the group already about the incident, and it was agreed upon that the whole thing was blown out of proportion and I had plenty of time to redo my section. I never said anything about you "hurting my feelings," I said you were singling me out and did not have the balls to deal with me directly. Even the teacher said the whole thing was a mistake and something we should resolve amongst ourselves. I never claimed any information as mine and I cited the info from the exact location I found it. Yes, it a meager section, and after taking the tutorial on citing for a refresher I realized I did not cite it correctly, but it was not intentional. I also redid the section when given the chance. I had asked you to talk with me because you were the one making the biggest deal of anyone, and making the issue very personal, but you appeared to be avoiding the issue. I like dealing with people directly when there is a problem. In fact, if you want to continue making this personal, why don't you let me know and we can do so directly. I don't mean that as a threat as we are on opposite coasts, but this gets old! I admit I was not Learning Team member that class and for that I apologized for that then, and I will do so again to you personally. I had a lot of personal stuff going on at the time and way too much on my plate, but I take full responsibility for being the weak link. I am not proficient with PowerPoint, but I have had plenty of Learning Team mates that were not either, it is not something unique to me. You seemed like a very decent guy when I spoke to you directly, one who has plenty on his plate as is with a restaurant to run and a young family. This is why I don't understand why you don't just worry more about yourself, and give your fellow classmates the benefit of the doubt and assume they are not intentionally cheating and deal with them directly first. Try to help them before you set out to hurt them; that is why I use the term snitching and ratting. I was not raised to deal with situations that way. As I have grown, my belief that is cowardly to deal with authority figures rather than a person directly has only strengthened. I do not think that is criminal or an admission of guilt. School is going well, I only have my Capstone class left and I presently have a 3.26 GPA. Thank you for asking. How about you Brad? How is school, your family and your restaurant?

"Snitch", and its synonym, "rat" are words that are pretty much used by criminals aren't they? Both terms imply tht the party being "snitched" on is doing wrong, no? Otherwise, it wouldn't be "snitching", it would be falsely accusing. Too bad if the plagiarizers don't like being busted. They should spend their effort doing the work, then they would earn their degree while maintaining the integrity of the institution. If cheating is encouraged in college, then what will happen in the real world? Enron? Tyco?

I have three advanced degrees: one from a small state university, one from a fairly prestigious private school, and the third completed online through a larger state university. Surprisingly, the most useful degree to me has been the one from the smaller, lesser known state school where there was a more relaxed learning environment. My point is, as to "academic integrity", you only get out of an education what YOU put into it yourself. If you don't like the way U of P is handling your complaints, transfer to another school.

I have three advanced degrees: one from a small state university, one from a fairly prestigious private school, and the third completed online through a larger state university. Surprisingly, the most useful degree to me has been the one from the smaller, lesser known state school where there was a more relaxed learning environment. My point is, as to "academic integrity", you only get out of an education what YOU put into it yourself. If you don't like the way U of P is handling your complaints, transfer to another school.

I have three advanced degrees: one from a small state university, one from a fairly prestigious private school, and the third completed online through a larger state university. Surprisingly, the most useful degree to me has been the one from the smaller, lesser known state school where there was a more relaxed learning environment. My point is, as to "academic integrity", you only get out of an education what YOU put into it yourself. If you don't like the way U of P is handling your complaints, transfer to another school.

I have three advanced degrees: one from a small state university, one from a fairly prestigious private school, and the third completed online through a larger state university. Surprisingly, the most useful degree to me has been the one from the smaller, lesser known state school where there was a more relaxed learning environment. My point is, as to "academic integrity", you only get out of an education what YOU put into it yourself. If you don't like the way U of P is handling your complaints, transfer to another school.

Well, I am proud of you for not cutting and pasting this post, especially with the website background image still attached like your meager attempt in our class. I can only believe that you are so upset because you feel guilty about your dabbling in plagiarism. Too bad that you still don't realize, even after explaining to you, that the people I report actually do far more blatant plagiarism than your amateurish work. In fact, I am in class with two of them now. I will continue to report actions that lessen the integrity of the institution from which I get my degree. I am certain that your comment about the act of reporting unethical behavior (ratting?), will reveal about you, and those like you, your dishonest and sophmoric character. Even though this is not a topic for this thread, I hope you have learned a little PowerPoint as it is required for "learning team" assignments. It would be nice to see a UoP "graduate" actually know something about PowerPoint before graduating after (what ws it, 18 classes?) so many classes of leeching off of your team mates because "I don't know PowerPoint". I suppose you will now want to call me at home and whimper at me for hurting your feelings and being unfair to you like you did when I called you (right in the newsgroup, not behind your back) on your cheating and lack of effort. By the way, how is school going for you?

I say that because we both know your name is not Bill. Maybe the reason you did not get the response you were hoping for any of those times you squealed to the instructors and advisors are, the infractions you imagined were not actually, what you thought they were. You could have saved yourself a lot of frustration by discussing the situation with your classmates directly. However, I guess that is not a rat's style. There are misunderstandings all the time, no one is perfect, yes even you Frank. With the technology today, it is practically impossible to cheat or plagiarize and get away with it. This is not a problem unique to UoP I was in a class with you, and I know you are a control freak who really needs to worry less about everyone else and start worrying more about yourself. You will be a much happier person once you do.