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  • Report:  #149142

Complaint Review: US Bank - Overland Park Kansas

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- Overland Park, Kansas,
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US Bank
9900 W. 87th Street Overland Park, 66212-4745 Kansas, U.S.A.
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This bank has a consistent practice of not crediting deposits into a checking accounts until the last entry, while always deducting ATM and checks charges first.

A deposit can be made after 2pm on Friday and it will not be credited to your checking acct. until sometime during the next business day which would be Monday. However, any cash withdrawals from ATM machines, automatic withdrawals or presented checks that arrive during that period from 2pm Friday until late Monday will be deducted from any prior balance.

They disregard the deposit that was made until last. They know it was made (there is an electronic entry when you deposit funds) and they know that deducting any and all charges first has a good chance of creating overdrafts. Allowing them to charge and deduct an excessive amount of money ($33.00 per item)from your account. They control when deposits and deductions are shown.

They also will do as follows:

If you have $700.00 in your acct. and they receive six checks for payment and the six checks are as follow:

check #1............... $600.00

check #2............... $ 99.00

check #3............... $ 9.00

check #4............... $ 8.00

check #5............... $ 7.00

check #6............... $ 6.00

They will deduct the amounts from checks #1 and #2 in the amount of $699.00 leaving $1.00 in your acct.

Then they will show checks #3,4,5,and 6 as insufficient and debit your checking acct. $33.00 for each - one for a total of $132.00

In our case, they informed us that they paid the four checks that totaled $30.00, but charged our acct. $132.00 in overdraft charges.

We did not know any of this happened until we received a post card from the bank 6 days after all these transactions took place. 6 days? The Pony Express was faster then that. during that six days more charges were presented to the bank making our balance even further in arrears.

Had they deducted checks #2,3,4,5,and 6 first there was more then sufficient funds to cover them. That would have left check #1 for $600.00 which would have overdrawn our acct. by $29.00. that would have resulted in one (1) overdraft charge of $33.00.

This is a consistent practice. I believe this to be, if not criminal, then immoral at best.

The other charges that were presented for payment during the 6 days it took a post card to get to us would have been covered by a deposit that had been made, but the charges plus the $132. overdraft charges were more then enough to keep us in the red - allowing them to hit us again for overdraft charges.

This practice had been occuring for years, but this time we decided to close the checking acct. and open one at another bank.

We had been with this bank when it was First Star and prior to that Mercantile and prior to that Mid-American bank (21 years)

Although we closed the acct. almost two months ago we are still receiving notices of more charges being added. We have gone from a customer who had an average daily balance in excess of $2000.00, to someone who is now being billed for $822.91 the majority of which is overdraft charges.

I know this is happening to others. This is an outrage. It is criminal - and I don't really care what any jurist might say - these people, these "people we trust to hold our money" have no right to plunder or pillage that with which we have trusted them.

Thomas

Overland Park, Kansas
U.S.A.


10 Updates & Rebuttals

Chris

Chesterfield,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
I am the law

#2Consumer Comment

Sat, May 02, 2009

Why are you not actually reading these? Rob said the following: "First for the Ex-Employee who basically said that they post highest to lowest because the highest values tend to be the most important and the one you would not want to bounce. This argument would be viable if they actually returned the lower value checks because of an NSF. " He's absolutely correct, if your logic was valid, things would actually get returned, but they don't. Can you explain how this supports your argument that bank is doing this for our benefit?


I Am The Law

Cincinnati,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
Uh ok...

#3Consumer Comment

Mon, May 05, 2008

So you'd rather have the checks return instead of pay? I don't understand the logic there. If they are returned to who they were written to, you will get a fee from your bank AND whoever the check was written to. I'm far from a money expert, but I'd rather only get a fee from one party instead of two.


Robert

Irvine,
California,
U.S.A.
Posting...

#4Consumer Comment

Tue, April 29, 2008

First for the Ex-Employee who basically said that they post highest to lowest because the highest values tend to be the most important and the one you would not want to bounce. This argument would be viable if they actually returned the lower value checks because of an NSF. The fact is that they do not return the check, instead the bank pays the check and charge an O/D fee. Because they do the highest to lowest more fees are generated. Even though people feel that these fees are outragous and a RipOff, they are not. They are also easily avoided by doing a couple of simple things. 1. Don't O/D your account. All it takes is proper accounting to know exactly what you have in your account at any time. Know the posting policies of your bank and don't spend money that is not posted to your account. Yes this actually may cause you to spend a minute or so every time you make a purchase, but it is either do this or be subject to fees. 2. If you have a tendency to O/D your account then set up Overdraft Protection with your bank. Most banks offer this for either free or very low cost, especially in comparison to what an overdraft would cost you.


Chloe

Northglenn,
Colorado,
U.S.A.
keep a register.

#5Consumer Comment

Tue, April 29, 2008

I have been banking with US Bank for over 8 years, with absolutely NO issues. In fact, I used to work for another bank until last year, and never bothered to open an employee account because US Bank was / is better. The bank did NOTHING wrong; YOU are the one who caused these fees due to your reckless spending and the fact you did not familiarise yourself with the bank's policies. Yes, deposits after the cut-off time on Friday do not post until the next business day (Monday at midnight)...... 99% of all banks follow this, not just US Bank! And since those funds are not available to you until they POST to your account, YOU ARE DRAWING ON UNAVAILABLE FUNDS when making purchases / ATM withdrawals / electronic transfers / whatever / BEFORE your deposit posts. As for posting highest to lowest -- every bank has been doing that for quite a while now; it's so you don't bounce your more important / more expensive transactions like rent or mortgage. I won't argue whether or not the real reason is to get more fees from consumers, and I don't care. Seriously, the ORDER the checks are presented SHOULD NOT MATTER because if you had money to cover ALL your checks, YOU WOULD NOT BE PAYING ANY FEES! Sorry, but this is not criminal. What's criminal is spending money you don't have. Grow up and start taking responsibility for your own finances.


I Am The Law

Cincinnati,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
It's like this.....

#6UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, April 24, 2008

I don't understand why people think that companies are just out to hurt the customers. Anyway, here's the order of credits and debits and why they post that way. Credits always post first. As for debits, large debits are taken before small ones intentionally. Every bank does this. Despite popular rumor with conspiracy theorists, this is not to get fees to generate, but to protect the customer. Large debits are typically more important and if a customer doesn't have enough money in their account, those SHOULD be considered first. For example, if you don't have enough money in your account, which would you rather have bounce, your $900.00 mortage payment or the $20.00 check you wrote to your grandson for his birthday? Trust me, there is no hidden agenda at US Bank.


I Am The Law

Cincinnati,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
It's like this.....

#7UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, April 24, 2008

I don't understand why people think that companies are just out to hurt the customers. Anyway, here's the order of credits and debits and why they post that way. Credits always post first. As for debits, large debits are taken before small ones intentionally. Every bank does this. Despite popular rumor with conspiracy theorists, this is not to get fees to generate, but to protect the customer. Large debits are typically more important and if a customer doesn't have enough money in their account, those SHOULD be considered first. For example, if you don't have enough money in your account, which would you rather have bounce, your $900.00 mortage payment or the $20.00 check you wrote to your grandson for his birthday? Trust me, there is no hidden agenda at US Bank.


I Am The Law

Cincinnati,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
It's like this.....

#8UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, April 24, 2008

I don't understand why people think that companies are just out to hurt the customers. Anyway, here's the order of credits and debits and why they post that way. Credits always post first. As for debits, large debits are taken before small ones intentionally. Every bank does this. Despite popular rumor with conspiracy theorists, this is not to get fees to generate, but to protect the customer. Large debits are typically more important and if a customer doesn't have enough money in their account, those SHOULD be considered first. For example, if you don't have enough money in your account, which would you rather have bounce, your $900.00 mortage payment or the $20.00 check you wrote to your grandson for his birthday? Trust me, there is no hidden agenda at US Bank.


I Am The Law

Cincinnati,
Ohio,
U.S.A.
It's like this.....

#9UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, April 24, 2008

I don't understand why people think that companies are just out to hurt the customers. Anyway, here's the order of credits and debits and why they post that way. Credits always post first. As for debits, large debits are taken before small ones intentionally. Every bank does this. Despite popular rumor with conspiracy theorists, this is not to get fees to generate, but to protect the customer. Large debits are typically more important and if a customer doesn't have enough money in their account, those SHOULD be considered first. For example, if you don't have enough money in your account, which would you rather have bounce, your $900.00 mortage payment or the $20.00 check you wrote to your grandson for his birthday? Trust me, there is no hidden agenda at US Bank.


Thomas

Overland Park,
Kansas,
U.S.A.
changing banks is not completly adequate - more needs to be done.

#10Author of original report

Tue, July 12, 2005

After posting my initial complaint about US BANK I began reading some of the many complaints that were already posted and some of which were filed after mine. It is abundanlty clear, that while US BANK may abide by the laws of the states in which they operate, they have found a way to circumvent the letter of those statutes. My guess is they are on very thin ice. Has anyone been able to get their hands on a 2004 US BANK Annual Report? Has anyone tried to get a 2004 US Bancorp Annual Report? I would love to see how much unearned revenue they report. They may call it someting else. I doubt they would be honest enough to call it: "Insufficient fund revenue." I would be willing to bet it is in the high millions. I understand the Federal Reserve Bank keeping interest rates at an all time low - for such a long period - would hinder any and all banks from earninglarge profits from the interest on the loans they make. However, that does not excuse the practices of US Bank, for dipping into the checking account funds of their customers, to offset the decline in their annual revenues. I expect to soon see "60 minutes," or "Dateline," do an expose on these people. I wouldn't be surprised to hear CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, and all the Network news organizations tell how a few people made outrageous amounts of income before the bank filed for bankrupcy. I am personally ready to make up a home-made sign and display it outside of the branch that has caused me so many headaches. I have a few hours during the day I can dedicate to this endeavor. It would say, "DO NOT DO BUSINESS HERE UNTIL YOU VISIT WWW.RIP-OFFREPORT.COM --- YOU CAN THANK ME LATER." AND, it is also extremely clear to me, when reading a rebuttal that is insulting to the person who wrote the complaint, it must be from someone associated with US Bank. DUH! CLOSE, BUT NO CIGAR.


Dorothy

Reno,
Nevada,
U.S.A.
change banks, is the best thing.

#11Consumer Comment

Sun, July 10, 2005

I to have had us bank charge me overdrawn charges before my deposit was entered.even tho they were on the same day.change banks, is the best thing.

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