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  • Report:  #199201

Complaint Review: Wachovia - Gainesville Florida

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- gainesville, Florida,
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Wachovia
3838 Nw 13th Street Gainesville, 32609 Florida, U.S.A.
Phone:
352-3353300
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About 10 days ago I received a life insurance check for roughly one hundred thousand dollars. My father passed away recently, and it took about six weeks to get the check in the mail. The afternoon I took my check to Wachovia, they said I would not be able to access the funds for at last two weeks (14 days). Their teller said this was because the check was drawn on a bank in Ohio (Chase Bank One). Upon depositing the check, however, my receipt told me the funds were being witheld because I had overdrawn my account within the last six months.

I have been a customer at this branch for six years now (formerly SouthTrust bank) which was recently taken over by Wachovia. I am not stupid - I know that Bank One is one of the largest banking institutions in America and it does not take 14 days for a regional branch to clear a check with them. My mother received her check on the same day and took it to another bank (Alarion, a small regional bank). Her check cleared Bank One within three days and the funds were immediately made available to her.

So, assuming that Wachovia is at least as efficent as some small regional banking chain, they had my money roughly 7 days ago and have been collecting interest on it ever since. Wachovia, however, has no intention of making these funds available to me for another 4 days.

A few days ago visited the branch and spoke with a manager. I explained that I needed access to at least some of my money - that I had bills to pay and would receive penalties if I don't pay them on time. I told her that I know the bank has my money and don't understand why they were witholding it. She explained that this is standard procedure for any checks a certain dollar amount over the customer's average balance.

I'm sorry, but I'm 27 years old and have never had much money before - why am I being penalized for having more than usual? I have been given three different reasons why they won't give me my money and none of them appear to be true. My perception is they are keeping my money in order to earn interest on it without paying me anything.

Basically I am giving them a short-term loan with no compensation whatsoever.

To their credit, the manager seemed very concerned about my problem and spent at least an hour or two working on it, but in the end she did nothing whatsoever. I asked her to check whether or not the check had cleared and she was unable to do this. According to this manager, the only thing she could do was see if it had been deposited in my account. She apparently tried to call Bank One and find out whether the check was valid - but explained to me that because of phishing scams the bank couldn't give out this information over the phone.

She had the nerve to give me the Bank One phone number - as if me calling them and finding out the check is valid (I already know the check is valid) would solve anything. I asked her to find out whether the check had cleared, not whether it was valid. She could have called her own regional offices to find out whether the check cleared, if that information isn't available at the branch office, but apparently this is not standard procedure.

I do not mean to denigrate the manager at all - she was very nice and seemed to want to help me out - only she didn't seem to have any idea how help me out or power to do so.

I am extremely upset about this - it has cost me money, disrupted my business, and wrecked my 4th of July travel plans. It seems the only reason Wachovia is witholding funds after this much time has passed is because they're earning interest on it, and they apparently do this as a matter of policy.

As soon as I get my money - whenever that is - I already plan to open an account at a different bank and transfer all my money over there. I will also revise this complaint, turn it into a nice letter how and why they lost my business, and send it to everyone I can find an email address for in the corporate chain of command. I would also like to participate in any class action lawsuit brought against Wachovia for same or similar practices.

William

gainesville, Florida
U.S.A.

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5 Updates & Rebuttals

Daniel

Indianapolis,
Indiana,
U.S.A.
Let me understand something.......

#2Consumer Comment

Sun, July 09, 2006

It is amazing to me that presumably educated opinionates can bring such fallacious arguments to the table. When I write a check to a business, that business deposits the check into its bank - at which time the funds are paid to the business upon verification of the funds being released from my account. Banks have NO qualms about immediately withdrawing money from your account. But when it comes to deposits (posting of direct deposits, availability of check or even CASH deposits), banks seem to think that they have an inherent right to hold your money until it suits them. Honestly, the only immediate solution to the release of YOUR money is to take your complaint directly to the top. If a bank is faced with the prospect of losing your $100,000 bank account, they will think twice about jacking around with your money - regardless of any returned checks in the past. This is the trump card I used in dealing with my credit union - which saw fit to attempt to place a 14 day hold on a $4,800 deposit from a cashier's check from BANK OF AMERICA. I told the CU that unless they released my funds IMMEDIATELY, I would pay off the small motorcycle loan that I had with their institution - and subsequently take my business (and direct deposits...and IRA) to a rival CU. Their response? Release the funds. The only language that banks understand deals in legal tender...period. With all the banking choices available, they need you far more than you will ever need them. Alert them to that fact, and you will find that their indignation for your needs will give way to need to not lose money.


Daphne

Wachovia,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Deposit Holds

#3Consumer Suggestion

Sat, July 08, 2006

By signing the signature card, you are saying you agree to use the account under the terms and conditions the bank has set in the Depositor's Agreement. Yes, that includes your deposits being placed on hold up to 11 business days if they are over $5,000, your account history has multiple NSF's, and/or it is a non-local check. All of these factors play a part into if a check is placed on hold and if so for how long, which is why they gave you multiple explanations. The bank is not making interest off your check by placing it on hold. YOU ARE. The deposit posted either that same day or the next, you just can't use it because it is on hold. Since it is posted into the account, it is in the posted balance and is earning interest. Sorry to say, all your frustration could have been avoided if you had taken the time to review the depositor's agreement and schedule of fees from the bank...


Michelle

Roanoke,
Virginia,
U.S.A.
response

#4Consumer Comment

Mon, July 03, 2006

william, gotten some great responses back to your report and REG cc is the best and correct answer..the system automatically puts a hold on the funds based on your account history, amt of check and , local non local...your right it prob never takes 14days to collect from the bank the check was drawn own, however the computer/system has no way of knowing that... Its simply a system generated hold...it has nothing to do with the manager, teller or wachovia..it is a legimate procedure that we can follow....and we do...always....they referd you bank to bank one possible because of the privacy act, and more and more banks arent able to release info to other banks...w/o you being on the line or the person/owner of the acct.... What i suggest doing is to give it about 5 business days...dont include weekends....and call wachovia back, ask them it they can call to verify funds with you on the line....it is poss to release the hold on our end once we can verify that it has cleared the issing bank....


Stile

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
This is called a Reg CC hold

#5UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mon, July 03, 2006

Regulation CC governs how checks and other items are to be handled when deposited into a customer's account. Checks are divided into local and non-local items. A local check is drawn on a bank within the same region, a non-local check is drawn from outside that region. It sounds like your check is non-local which automatically makes it eligible for a 5 business day hold. This is the reason your mother's check cleared faster, because for her it was a local item. For you, it isn't. Now, because of the amount of the check, it is also subject to what is called an exception hold. Any item over $5000 is considered a large deposit, and is subject to an additional hold time, typically 6 additional business days on a large non-local item (a total of 11 business days, which will explain the 14 calendar days in your post). Now, if the check is over $5000, then the bank *MUST* make the first $5000 available to you immediately. If they haven't done so, you need to contact the bank right away and demand that they release the first $5000. If they refuse to, send a letter to the Office of Comptroller of Currency, and cc your bank's Office of the Chairman, and your state's banking regulatory division. You also mentioned that they stated there was an issue because your account was overdrawn in the past. This is only a legitimate reason to extend the hold if your account has had a negative balance for 6 or more banking days in the previous 6 months (or 2 days, if the overdraft was more than $5K). One last point that's a bit of a nit-pick for me. The bank isn't holding these funds to collect interest. Banks don't collect interest, banks pay interest. The only thing the bank could theoretically do with your money to earn revenue on it would be to loan it out. But they're not going to earn anything on it in 11 business days. They're not holding it to be greedy or capricious; they're holding it because they're required to. My condolences on your father's passing.


Cory

San Antonio,
Texas,
U.S.A.
All I Can Say

#6Consumer Comment

Mon, July 03, 2006

All I can say is bank one is/was, in my opinion, one of the worst banks there are. Chase, who bought them, run a close second. Had a wells fargo check for $80,000 in my business. It took 14 business days to collect on. Almost 3 weeks earth time. On most banks, their signs say it may take up to 14 days.

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