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Complaint Review: Alex Social and The 4 Week Natural - Internet

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BadBoy - Sydney, Other,
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Alex Social and The 4 Week Natural
Internet, USA
Web:
www.4weeknatural.com and www.alexsocial.com
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Alex Treasure has now started his own pick-up company, called "Alex Social" and "The 4 Week Natural". I attended a boot camp with this guy when he was an instructor at RSD, in Sydney early 2013. The boot camp I attended with him basically consisted of him taking us out to night clubs around Sydney, and then ditching us (the students) whilst he hit on girls to get in-field footage for his "Hot Seat". 

 All up I probably got no more than 40 minutes of face time with Alex whilst out, costing me 2000 USDs.

 What surprised me the most about attending the boot camp with Alex, was the massive disparity between his youtube persona, and how he was in real life. On the youtube videos you'd think he was an empathetic, well-travelled indivudal who cared about the students, but in real life, he is the kind of guy who will try to get away with doing as less as possible. He simply didn't give a crap about the students, and when we approached him about his lack of instruction, he'd tell us something along the lines of "I'm hitting on girls to demonstrate my methods in action", which is a complete farce because 90% of the time the students didn't know where he was in the club, nor did we ask him to demonstrate anything. It was just an excuse on his part to justify why he didn't spend time with the students.

 He treated the students with contempt, and throughout the boot camp it felt more like we were a hindrance to him hitting on girls, rather than us paying him to teach us how to successfully interact with women.

 The guy is narcissistic, manipulative and unscrupulous. I posted my boot camp review on the RSD forums, which was subequently deleted. However it is up on other websites on the internet, and if you look ahrd enough you will find it easily.

 If you consisder it worthwhile to be paying this guy about a few thousand dollars, so you can go to the club with him, only to have him ditch you whilst he does his own thing, then by all means do it. However, be forewarned, this guy doesn't give a crap about the fact you paid him a few thousand dollars to learn how to interact with women, he only wants to take your money, do as little as possible, and then run away. He is full of rhetoric.



6 Updates & Rebuttals

Tyron

Sydney,
Australia
He is in photography and media design now

#2Consumer Comment

Wed, September 18, 2019

The bloke is slowly getting out of pick-up and getting into photography and media design now. His business name is "Alex Media Studio". You can spend all this money on fancy equipment, it still doesn't hide the fact he is a piece of crap. I wonder if his potential clients know he use to be a misgynistic PUA instructor.

I suspect this guy is buying likes for his Alex Media STudio instagram account. MASSIVE discrepancies!

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excitedelektron

Munich,
Bavaria,
Germany
4 Week Natural is total waste of money

#3Consumer Comment

Mon, August 19, 2019

I can confirm what OP wrote above. I had a very similar situation when I took 4 week bootcamp with Alex in 2018. In return of 3000 Euros, what I got was basically "go approach the girls because Alex believes in you". Absolutely no practical help at all.

The worst part was the final "feedback" in which I was told that I do not have personality which "fits" seduction or pickup and its better if I find a girlfriend and settle. What a great advice for 3000 euros!!


Winchester Model 70

Madison,
Wisconsin,
United States
Response to Carlos

#4Consumer Comment

Tue, October 09, 2018

Are you someone who works for Alex? If the RSD bootcamps aren't for newbies (which consist of most students doing bootcamps anyway), then why did he work for RSD for so long? No, Alex doesn't need to hold peoples hands, but that doesn't justify walking away, not doing anything and filming his own hot seat. Alex is first and foremost a good speaker with a strong salesman vibe. He is one of those people whom you don't realize is ripping you off until after the event. Pretty convenient he teaches pick-up as well yet EVERYONE of his instructors are ridiculously good-looking. I should know, I did a bootcamp with him at the RSD summit in Vegas a long way back.


carlos.tx

San Antonio,
Texas,
USA
4wn is worth your time.

#5Consumer Comment

Mon, September 25, 2017

Alex pays close attention to his students.  I know this because I watched him instruct a few of his students in Austin.  When you're at the club you don't expect someone to be by your side the whole time.. His program is not for the newbies doing the 3 day rsd bootcamp.  In other words I don't think he's going to hold your hand the whole time.  Anyways if you've seen his programs or follow his group you know he's putting enough attention on his students. Why else would he extend the time and keep the price range the same as the other companies.. 


UMich

Lansing,
Michigan,
USA
His name is Alex James now

#6Consumer Comment

Fri, September 08, 2017

 I attended his boot camp back in 2012 in San Francisco. He changed his name to Alex James now. He has gotten out of pick up and is doing photography or business advice.


Julien

New York,
New York,
USA
Alex Neglects Students

#7Consumer Comment

Tue, June 16, 2015

I have not attended an Alex BC, I did go to both his hot seats though. He did exactly what you were talking about in most of the clips, he'd be on BC and meant to be teaching, instead, he goes hitting on girls and pulling them back home. I felt sorry for most of the students because guys in the community generally are not the assertive type that will call him out on this. Way to blow 2Gs.

 

I just would not attend his programs due to him stabbing RSD in the back. RSD gets some bad press because of Julien, then he disappears, and starts his own company after learning everything he knew from Tyler. 

 

I know what you mean about the differences between his youtube and real life personality. He is good with women no doubt, but seeing his personality and behavior in real life, it's obvious he's quite immature and arrogant. Must only hang around PUA wannabes who suck up to him all the time. He has got a distorted view about the world that's for sure.

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