;
  • Report:  #720978

Complaint Review: Amazon.com - Internet

Reported By:
Zeph - Eugene, Oregon, USA
Submitted:
Updated:

Amazon.com
Internet, United States of America
Phone:
Web:
http://www.amazon.com
Categories:
Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
Beware the Amazon.com shipping rip-offs.

I'll be the first to admit that Amazon sometimes provides some really good prices on books.  However, if you're not careful you can find any saving in the cost of your books more than offset by hidden, inflated, and unreasonable shipping/handling policies and charges.



1) Beware the per-book-rate.

Typical shipping charge for a book is $3.99; however, that charge is for -each- book, regardless of size, weight, or number ordered.  Now $3.99 isn't too outrageous for shipping a single book, (even though there are plenty of smaller paperbacks that could be slipped into an envelope and mailed for less).  The rip-off comes when you order more than one book, but less than $25.00 worth: you get charged $3.99 for /each/ book, even though they're going to be packed into one box and mailed for far less than that. 

For example:  I bought 4 children's paperbacks for a total of $23.96, and was charged $15.96 shipping.  In fact, all 4 books together weighed less than a pound, and could have been mailed in a US Post Office flat-rate Priority box for between $4.95 and $5.20 for the lot.



2) Beware of "free shipping" offers from Amazon. 

Under some circumstances (not all), if your order totals more than $25.00 Amazon offers "free shipping".  However, they may also offer (especially around the holidays) to get your order to you in two or three days*.  What they don't tell you up front is that if you opt for the 2-3 day shipping, you no longer have "free shipping" -- you get charged for the faster shipping.

Also, you have an option to "get your shipment faster" by having it broken up into a number of smaller shipments, which will be individually mailed as they become available.  This will indeed get you -some- of your order more quickly than the rest of it, but you will be charged the going rate for each additional shipment they make over the first one -- so much for "free shipping".

Then there's the infamous "Amazon Prime" offer-that-doesn't-look-like-an-offer.  If you check this box before checkout you will indeed get "free two day shipping" on your order.  Followed by a $79.00 bill for signing up for "Amazon Prime".

[* By the way, if you order late on Thursday afternoon, if the shipment reaches you by Tuesday, Amazon considers that "two day delivery."]



3) Beware of the "Amazon Sellers: shipping scam.

To me this is the most egregious of the Amazon shipping rip offs.  Amazon hosts many non-Amazon sellers.  Indeed, Amazon solicits them, advertises for them on the Amazon site, and includes their wares in Amazon searches.  I fyou are just buying a single item from one of these sellers, in general, no worries.

However, if you want to buy -multiple- items, or multiple copies of an item from an Amazon seller, be prepared to pay though the nose for shipping.   Every item under a certain weight sold by an Amazon Seller carries a minimum $3.99 shipping charge -- even if the item is the size of a fingernail and weighs less than an ounce.  Furthermore, if you buy, say, three such items -- all from the same seller -- you will be charged $11.94 shipping:  $3.99 for -each- item.

To me, the most egregious example of this was when I attempted to order ten SD memory chips (used in digital cameras) from an Amazon Seller.  At $2.02 each, the total cost of the chips was $20.20.  However, shipping charges were calculated to be $39.90 !
In other words, forty dollars to ship twenty dollars worth of goods.  

The worst part is, SD chips are each the size of a *postage stamp*, and weigh less than one gram.  Twice as many as I ordered could have been shipped in a single standard letter envelope for $0.44 first class postage.  Or they all could have been fit into a sturdy cardboard "priority mail" envelope with a 2-3 day delivery time, for $4.95.

Needless to say, I took my business elsewhere.

Amazon Sellers, it appears, are not permitted to COMBINE shipments to save their customers shipping costs.  The main reason I am writing this report is because Amazon WILL NOT OWN UP to this practice.  I've contacted a half-dozen different Amazon Sellers and asked them if they would combine multiple items into one shipment to reduce shipping charges.  Every one of them has politely responded that AMAZON WILL NOT ALLOW them to do this. 

Each time, I also contacted Amazon to ask them about this policy, and each time they replied that this was NOT THEIR POLICY, but must be a peculiar policy of the particular seller involved.  So we are faced with the idea that either 6 different, unrelated sellers, each with excellent records and feedback, are all lying about their shipping policies -- or that Amazon is lying about the shipping policy that AMAZON imposes upon its sellers.



So:  rip-off?  Or merely institutionalized inefficiency?

You decide.


11 Updates & Rebuttals

Dr H

Oregon,
Pot, Kettle, Black

#2Author of original report

Wed, January 28, 2015

Josh wrote: "As far as the non-Amazon sellers: they obviously make their money on the shipping.  The memory cards probably cost around $5 and ship with just a postage stamp, but they'll list them for $2 with $6 shipping.  Obviously, in this case, they will not combine shipping, since that's how they make their money. "

 Well Josh, old bean, that pretty much fits /my/ definition of a "rip-off".  YMMV.

 I note you failed to address the fact that Amazon repeatedly denies that it forces a policy on its sellers that the sellers themselves have acknowledged.

 "Idiot", indeed.


mr rik

miami,
Florida,
USA
What are

#3Consumer Comment

Wed, April 27, 2011

What are all the SHILLS here for?

Report Attachments

Ramjet

Somewhere,
Michigan,
U.S.A.
Jeanski

#4Consumer Comment

Wed, April 27, 2011

Jeanski, you can try reporting creeps to the editors.  However, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for results.  I have reported Karl several times and they don't have the integrity to do anything. 

The only real advice is to not feed the trolls, they LOVE to get a reaction, they are not here for any other purpose. 


mr rik

miami,
Florida,
USA
Jeannie

#5Consumer Suggestion

Tue, April 26, 2011

What purpose do YOUR posts serve?

Why are YOU here?

Look what else came with an amazon shipment to an pal of mine!

Report Attachments

Dr H

Oregon,
USA
Still a RIpoff

#6Author of original report

Mon, April 25, 2011

Telling people in advance that you will be ripping them off doesn't make the ripoff any less of a ripoff.

Yes, in some (not all!) cases Amazon tells you the amount by which you will be ripped-off in advance, and you have the option to shop elsewhere -- which I do.  However, Amazon also continually advertises having the lowest prices around on books and other items, but when one takes into account inflated shipping rates, that claim is untrue. 

And the shipping rates are demonstrably inflated.  It is ridiculous for Amazon to charge as much as $40 for items that could be shipped in a flat rate priority mailing box for under $6.00.  Furthermore, I have the shipping labels from boxes showing that the actual postage paid was five or six dollars, for items that I was charged $15-$20 in shipping.

But as noted, the -real- ripoff is Amazon's claim that the per-item shipping policy is set by their sellers: it is NOT.  Every seller confirms that the policy is set by Amazon, and that they are powerless to do anything about it.  I just received two e-mails two days ago that again confirm this discrepency:  one from Amazon claiming that this is not their policy, and one from the seller claiminng that it -is- Amazon's policy.  I will be happy to make those e-mails available to ripoff.com, upon request.


Jeanski

Buffalo,
New York,
USA
Mr. rik

#7Consumer Comment

Mon, April 25, 2011

Your reports have now crossed the line into truly disgusting.  I'm all about free speech, but this is ridiculous.  Does anyone know why the Editor allows him to post such idiotic things?  It's bad enough we have to wade through Karl's poems, but this site truly loses any value when posts like yours are allowed to waste space and detract from the legitimate postings of issues and solutions.


mr rik

miami,
Florida,
USA
A friend of mine

#8Consumer Suggestion

Sun, April 24, 2011

got a soiled maxi pad with his order!

What is up with this place?


coast

USA
Not a rip off

#9Consumer Comment

Sun, April 24, 2011

Amazon supplies accurate pricing on the shipping and therefore it is not a rip off. If you don't like the price, then buy the product elsewhere. Many people on this site need to understand that just because something is expensive does NOT mean that it is a rip off. When a merchant charges the posted price and supplies the good or service as advertised it is not a rip off.

"What they don't tell you up front is that if you opt for the 2-3 day shipping, you no longer have free shipping" is an untrue statement. Amazon makes it very clear that expedited shipping is at an additional cost.


pixi

United States of America
not a problem

#10General Comment

Sun, April 24, 2011

I have never experienced a problem with them. They tell you everything up front before you pay, so don't complain 


mr rik

miami,
Florida,
USA
I ordered from this place once

#11Consumer Comment

Sun, April 24, 2011

Got my books, shredded, with rat droppings and a rat carcass!


Josh

Rolla,
Missouri,
U.S.A.
You are an idiot

#12Consumer Comment

Sun, April 24, 2011

Good lord.  First, Amazon offers free shipping on just about anything over $25 -- including books.  If you ordered else that cost $1.50 (like a box of paperclips), your order would have shipped for free.  Yes, free shipping takes longer -- that's why it's free.  I'm not really sure how you managed to get charged $15.96 for shipping, but let's just say that Amazon shows you the shipping charges before you place the order.

As far as the non-Amazon sellers: they obviously make their money on the shipping.  The memory cards probably cost around $5 and ship with just a postage stamp, but they'll list them for $2 with $6 shipping.  Obviously, in this case, they will not combine shipping, since that's how they make their money.  Also, those SD cards are pretty much guaranteed to be counterfeit, and will probably not work properly.  When you try to get a refund, you'll only get your $2.00 back, and not the $6 shipping. 

Here's a hint: if someone is selling something for less than Amazon's price on Amazon, it's probably a scam or a counterfeit item.  Seems like that would be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

Reports & Rebuttal
Respond to this report!
Also a victim?
Repair Your Reputation!
//