Complaint Review: Atlantic Coast Contracting - MARIETTA Georgia

This SCUM "Tillman" knows exactly what he's doing, NO DOUBT about it.

BOTTOMFEEDERS like him sit around all day trying to figure out ways to EXTORT people.  Obviously because he's failed at HONEST means of making a living.  He would charge you for AIR if he could.

Jesus don't like POS like him.  He will BURN IN HELL.

WHAT I'VE BEEN KNOWN TO DO in cases like this-  I would just go back and vandalize, maybe shoot out his cameras.  Any adjacent business that I thought could be involved would not be spared.

THE BEST WAY TO FIGHT THIS NONSENSE is to just avoid DOING ANY BUSINESS anywhere near there.  You will save LOTS OF MONEY and when this catches on, the "council" may start taking a better look, when they see their revenues dwindling.

SCUMBAG.

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"I have absolutely no problem accepting responsibility for my actions when I am obviously in the wrong. Had Mr. Tillman placed his signage in line sight of entering the property and large enough to read from an incoming vehicle or in front of the reserved spaces, I would NOT have utilized the lot. "

  You seem to have what I call "The world revolves around me" syndrome.   It is not up to you to dictate the measures that others must take to keep you from trespassing.   That's like a burglar blaming the victim because his locks weren't strong enough.

  Most reasonable adults recognize the difference between public and private property.  It's clear from your post above that you assume that private parking lots are open to your use if the business is closed.    If you continue to assume that, you will likely have similar experiences in the future.   You do not appear to recognize the rules about private property that the rest of us follow.

  Blithely assuming that closed businesses welcome you into their parking lot as a gesture of goodwill is a ridiculous assumption.  The liability factor alone would preclude any reasonable property owner from having such an attitude.  While other businesses may not be booting your car (yet), rest assured that they do not welcome you with the open arms you assume.

Good business owners don't mind if their parking areas are used for other purposes after hours when they have no other use for them because they know their courtesy will lend itself to those same people coming back during business hours and spending their hard earned money with them. Contentious business owners will take steps to curb, otherwise innocent, usurpers before they even get into the lot with some sort of preventative barrier or put easily seen signage in obvious areas that makes no mistake of the consequences or both. They also only take the more drastic measures when the activity interferes with the operation of their business. They don't lie in wait for the unsuspecting with no criminal intent for the purpose of no less than extortion when they miss the obscure and ambiguous signage.

I have absolutely no problem accepting responsibility for my actions when I am obviously in the wrong. Had Mr. Tillman placed his signage in line sight of entering the property and large enough to read from an incoming vehicle or in front of the reserved spaces, I would NOT have utilized the lot. Your assumptions of me are uninformed, insulting and inflammatory. If I had been stupid enough to ignore any obvious notification, I would simply have paid a reasonable $50 or $75 fee as commercial private parking lots charge to remove a boot where vehicle immobilization by private entities is still a legal practice. Given those circumstances, I would have never even thought to waste anybody's time here. As it stands, the only observable signage that includes the penalty is attached to another building and by the angle appears to reflect the practices of THAT building. The only other observable signage on the lot appears to reserve two spaces clearly marked "No Parking" directly next to the entrance to the 2nd address that utilizes the lot and offers no penalty clause. The only signage directly linking the entire lot to the penalty are 8"x10" in small black on white lettering. The first is next to the road but facing opposite of traffic. The second is 5 foot up on the wall next to the entrance of Morrison Law Firm, LLC and (again) opposite to the driver that has mistakenly pulled into a restricted private business lot. Neither sign is light reflective nor are they illuminated to be seen at dusk/night. Please see the photos attached to the first report...

I know of no towing company that charges $375.00 to release a towed vehicle if less than 24 hours before retrieval (3x the $125.00 this predatory extortionist charges each and every vehicle 24 hours/day as you suggested). My own vehicle was mistakenly towed from my current place of business (I rent office space) because my vehicle was there overnight as I had been working 36 hours straight. It was $125.00 to release my car from the tow yard which the property owner paid with the most sincere apologies I have ever heard. That is exactly the amount this predatory extortionist charges for upwards of 50 to 100+ times per week. In that case, the parking lot has signage easily seen and understood and the property owner at least waited to see if the vehicle was moved by the opening of business the following day.

One observer (another nearby business) noted that on days when special events are held in town, Mr. Tillman grosses $5000.00-$7000.00 per day. On an average weekend, he is purported to gross $900-$1200/day/night. Through a polite conversation with his employee I learned that he (the employee) makes his entire living off the 20% he gets for every vehicle owner extorted and that the other business at the addresses also make 20% for their participation in Atlantic Coast Contracting's extortion racket. And unfortunately, the fact remains that his actions are illegal by county ordinance and he is, in point of fact, currently facing charges for violation of county ordinance and criminal extortion with penalties of up to $1000.00 and/or 60 days in jail for every day it is proven that the activity continued for violation of the ordinance alone. I don't currently have penalty information in the case of conviction of criminal extortion but I can't assume it's a day holding hands in the park.

You simply cannot make a blanket statement of generalization to compare your experience to mine unless you have direct knowledge of the incident or this particular property owner. If you had bothered to actually read the links to the articles I posted when you called me names you would have known that already and perhaps not been so quick to assume that I am one of those who have obviously hurt you so deeply in the past that you must castigate anyone with an issue resembling the one that YOU can't get over. You would have also realized that my inclusion of Mr. Tillman's 'C' rated Better Business Bureau report in this article was NOT out of spite to be the biggest crybaby ever, but to better illuminate that fact that Atlantic Coast Contracting has no need to be a good and trusted construction company since it makes the majority of it's profits from extortion. I have absolutely no problem accepting responsibility for my actions

May God bless you and heal your broken heart Mr. "Ken from Greeley, CO"

Avenging Angel

probably the property owner should stop the booting and just have offenders towed at about 3 times the price....when you're right, you're right.

Be sure to let the property owner know, in YOUR opinion, how many signs, their size and wording should be on the property when he complies with your demands. (Don't forget to let him know if you feel lighting should be on every sign.)  I'll bet future offenders will thank you when they get towed instead of booted.  ;) 

Again, you gambled, parked and got caught....GET OVER IT!!

Now it's EVERYONE ELSE"S fault but yours.  Pretty predictable response for people disrespecting others rights.

In rebuttal: Thank you I have a life. Yes I have been where this predatory extortionist stands and a simple note of courtesy is sufficient when and if parking is usurped in an otherwise open lot of a closed business. If during business hours, then perhaps more extraordinary measures are called for to reserve that parking for clients of the business(es). I myself had easy to read signs located where there can be no mistake of exactly which spaces are reserved with the number to the towing company servicing the lot. I did not actively employ a guard 24 hours a day or bristle the building with CCTV cameras piped to said employee with a pile of tire boots and a receipt book to tally extortion money in hand ready to leap out as soon as the innocent usurper left his sight. This has all the ear marks of a 'For profit venture' of extortion not the protection of private property. Especially when a simple stanchion and chain fence/gate with a well worded and conspicuous sign would suffice.

Cobb County Ordinance specifically makes these predatory practices illegal and the last time I checked, Marietta, GA is is the Seat of Cobb County. If you are unsure, here is the ordinace:

Sec. 86-7. - Vehicle immobilization devices; definitions.
(a) Cobb County finds that the immobilization (booting) of vehicles by private companies leads to
unnecessary anger, conflict,a drain on public safety resources better spent elsewhere, and does not resolve the issue of the improper use of a parking space. The county has determined vehicle immobilization services to be unnecessary and not in the best interests of the county.

(b) Definitions. The following words, terms, and phrases, when used in this article, shall have the meanings, ascribed to themin this section, except where the context clearly indicates a different meaning:


(1) Vehicle immobilization device, device, or boot shall mean any mechanical device that is designed or adopted to be attached to a wheel, tire, or other part of a parked motor vehicle so as to prohibit the motor vehicle's usual manner of movement or operation.


(2) Operator shall mean any person, including a sole proprietor, independent contractor, partnership or similar business entity, operating vehicle immobilization devices for a vehicle immobilization service.


(3) Vehicle immobilization service shall mean a person, including a sole proprietor, independent contractor, partnership or similar business entity, offering services anywhere in the unincorporated portions of Cobb County whereby vehicles are immobilized by the installation of a vehicle immobilization device.


(c) Immobilization of the vehicle of another by use of a boot or other similar device is prohibited in Cobb County.

(d) In addition to the penalties described in section 86-1, any person(s), operator or vehicle immobilization service found to have violated this provision may be prosecuted for trespass to chattels.

An AJC article on the subject of Cherokee County adopting the same ordinance

http://www.ajc.com/news/cherokee/cherokee-may-join-others-801504.html

"...booting is a legitimate alternative for vehicles that have been abandoned in the parking lot for long periods of time.

This particular situation did not anywhere near resemble an "abandoned" vehicle nor did any of the plethora of complaints on record for Atlantic Coast Contracting, LLC. Nor do any of the allowances for the employment of immobilization devices include ANY of the daily predatory extortionist practices of Atlantic Coast Contracting, LLC, it's ownership and it's direct or indirect employees.

Finally:

To liken a commercial building with a parking lot without barriers in a heavily trafficked city square to a private residence is absolutely absurd on it's face and deserves no further response.

Nice try Mr. Tillman...

"Turns out Brent Tillman really is a half rate construction contractor from his 'C' rating on the Better Business Bureau site:

http://www.bbb.org/atlanta/business-reviews/contractor-commercial/atlantic-coast-contractingllc-in-marietta-ga-27365437

If 2 people in the last 12 months felt the need to go so far as to actually report him to the BBB, I guess that means stealing and extorting from honest people that fall into his lair is just a far more profitable venture than doing a decent job on the construction site."

People like you feel they are entitled to do as they want and when called on the error of their ways, become defensive, make half-baked claims and attack the innocent party(s),

1. What difference, to this discussion, does it make what type of person/contractor, Brent Tillman is?
If he were rated A+ or F would it make ANY difference?

2. What would you or anyone else report to the BBB?  I guess you would report him for "stealing" and "extorting"....right?....Absolutely untrue and stupid.

You and ones like you, claim YOUR rights are being violated, when YOU are violating a property owners rights.

You're an arrogant, thoughtless jerk and are doing your best to justify your illegal actions by, in part, attacking the real victim of your stupidity.

" The fact that they leave it wide open might lend credence to them doing so in order to lure unsuspecting motorists in, in order to get the fine. "

   I can't imagine that getting past a judge.    The notion that you must erect physical barriers to prevent trespassing flies in the face of common law.   I know of no business in my city that are required to block the entrances to their parking lots at night, yet they still retain their private property rights.

   I have no barriers in my driveway, yet I can reasonably expect the public not to park there when I'm away.

   Simply put, most people can tell the difference between public and private parking lots.  It's just that some choose to ignore it and hope there are no consequences.  When there are, they usually end up here.

That while objectionable, Tillman's actions are not illegal, otherwise the council would be ordering his arrest, not debating whether to add regulation. The answer is nobody should park in any lot unless they know it is for the business they're visiting.You might convince a judge though that the owners are negligent in not placing a reasonable barrier across the lot entrance after hours, so that nobody can mistakenly enter it. The fact that they leave it wide open might lend credence to them doing so in order to lure unsuspecting motorists in, in order to get the fine.

  I think the reason that the city council has not acted is because there is nothing to act upon.   Your post suggests that you think you can park on private property as long as the business is closed.  That's a novel notion, but sadly mistaken.    Would you mind if I parked in your driveway as long as it looked like you were not home? 

  Bottom line, you risk being towed or booted whenever you park in a private lot where you are not doing business. 

  By the way, I found the "privacy notice" in your follow up highly amusing as well.

It doesn't matter what your complaint is about how the lot's vacant and the owner shouldn't be penalizing cars illegally parked.

IT'S HIS PROPERTY and he has a right to control it.

In fact if he doesn't, over time, he could lose that control of his very own property.

Don't park there unless you have business in the building the lot is intended for....simple fix, no?

Don't thank me, glad to help out....and no, NO SYMPATHY HERE.

I used to deal with people like you on a daily basis trying to park in a private lot, CLEARLY MARKED with 2-1/2 ft by 6 ft, white reflective sinage with red lettering advising NOT to park there.

The drivers would completely disregard the signs and park.  When asked to leave and questioned on how they missed the signs, many said "What signs?"

I would then be told there was an empty space and they saw no problem parking as they wouldn't be gone long.  Then when advised the could NOT park there, the threats and swear words began.

Get a life and stop trying to shift blame to others for your little faux pas.

More "Rave Reviews" for the other business located on the same site at 27 West Atlanta Street SE, Marietta, GA and directly involves both Atlantic Coast Contracting, LLC and Morrison Law Firm, LLC:

http://www.yellowpages.com/marietta-ga/mip/just-kiln-time-2222130

Here is a report in the Marietta Daily Journal regarding Mr. Tillman, Atlantic Coast Contracting and the Morrison Law Offices:

http://www.mdjonline.com/view/full_story/13033588/article-Lawyer-files-lawsuit-over-vehicle-booting?instance=secondary_story_left_column

Turns out Brent Tillman really is a half rate construction contractor from his 'C' rating on the Better Business Bureau site:

http://www.bbb.org/atlanta/business-reviews/contractor-commercial/atlantic-coast-contractingllc-in-marietta-ga-27365437

If 2 people in the last 12 months felt the need to go so far as to actually report him to the BBB, I guess that means stealing and extorting from honest people that fall into his lair is just a far more profitable venture than doing a decent job on the construction site.

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