Michael
Bountiful,#2Consumer Comment
Tue, March 29, 2005
Congrats on getting those jackasses to get you a refund. Living in the great Northwest and buying 4WD ALWAYS get one new. Living in Idaho and now Utah for the last 30 years, I have learned that people see a snowflake and they put their truck in 4WD and leave it that way till Spring. This trashes the transfer case. That and its a Dodge! C'mon!. Hehehe....joke... Anyway, I used to sell new vehicles and I quickly became something that I hated: a snake-oil salesman conning the public out of hard earned $$. My conscious got to me and I left the business after only 3 months. So, rule #1: buy 4WD trucks NEW and rule #2 never let a car salesman run your credit untill there is a deal made and it is is WRITING. Everything in WRITING!!!!! But I am glad it worked out for you. :)
Lori-ann
Tualatin,#3Author of original report
Tue, March 29, 2005
http://www.autotown.tv/detail.cfm?iid=574286&anchor=/1997/Dodge/1500-Pickup/Club-Cab-Short-Bed/ I checked the link today and now it reads, "Sale Pending", but still lists the truck as having "No Known Mechanical Problems". I doubt they bothered to fix the leaking engine valve gasket, the serpentine belt, or the rear breaks....maybe they fixed the turn signal - if the new "pending" buyer is lucky! Of course, there is a small chance they have done so, but why would they if they could get away with it and sell it to someone else and do the same thing with them they did to me when they find out it has a leaking gasket, etc.? Also, sent along my story to the BBB - this place is a member and although I don't really think there is any resolution to my issues with them, but I did mention the ad stating it had no mechanical problems despite my providing them with a copy from the Dodge dealership I took it to listing the problems. I just want it to be on record - I refuse to have such a horrible experience go without my telling about it, I guess. I have only filed one other complaint to the BBB in my life, so you could say that this one really stands out for me. Thanks for your support, everyone!
Lori-ann
Tualatin,#4Author of original report
Tue, March 29, 2005
http://www.autotown.tv/detail.cfm?iid=574286&anchor=/1997/Dodge/1500-Pickup/Club-Cab-Short-Bed/ I checked the link today and now it reads, "Sale Pending", but still lists the truck as having "No Known Mechanical Problems". I doubt they bothered to fix the leaking engine valve gasket, the serpentine belt, or the rear breaks....maybe they fixed the turn signal - if the new "pending" buyer is lucky! Of course, there is a small chance they have done so, but why would they if they could get away with it and sell it to someone else and do the same thing with them they did to me when they find out it has a leaking gasket, etc.? Also, sent along my story to the BBB - this place is a member and although I don't really think there is any resolution to my issues with them, but I did mention the ad stating it had no mechanical problems despite my providing them with a copy from the Dodge dealership I took it to listing the problems. I just want it to be on record - I refuse to have such a horrible experience go without my telling about it, I guess. I have only filed one other complaint to the BBB in my life, so you could say that this one really stands out for me. Thanks for your support, everyone!
Lori-ann
Tualatin,#5Author of original report
Tue, March 29, 2005
http://www.autotown.tv/detail.cfm?iid=574286&anchor=/1997/Dodge/1500-Pickup/Club-Cab-Short-Bed/ I checked the link today and now it reads, "Sale Pending", but still lists the truck as having "No Known Mechanical Problems". I doubt they bothered to fix the leaking engine valve gasket, the serpentine belt, or the rear breaks....maybe they fixed the turn signal - if the new "pending" buyer is lucky! Of course, there is a small chance they have done so, but why would they if they could get away with it and sell it to someone else and do the same thing with them they did to me when they find out it has a leaking gasket, etc.? Also, sent along my story to the BBB - this place is a member and although I don't really think there is any resolution to my issues with them, but I did mention the ad stating it had no mechanical problems despite my providing them with a copy from the Dodge dealership I took it to listing the problems. I just want it to be on record - I refuse to have such a horrible experience go without my telling about it, I guess. I have only filed one other complaint to the BBB in my life, so you could say that this one really stands out for me. Thanks for your support, everyone!
Lori-ann
Tualatin,#6Author of original report
Tue, March 29, 2005
http://www.autotown.tv/detail.cfm?iid=574286&anchor=/1997/Dodge/1500-Pickup/Club-Cab-Short-Bed/ I checked the link today and now it reads, "Sale Pending", but still lists the truck as having "No Known Mechanical Problems". I doubt they bothered to fix the leaking engine valve gasket, the serpentine belt, or the rear breaks....maybe they fixed the turn signal - if the new "pending" buyer is lucky! Of course, there is a small chance they have done so, but why would they if they could get away with it and sell it to someone else and do the same thing with them they did to me when they find out it has a leaking gasket, etc.? Also, sent along my story to the BBB - this place is a member and although I don't really think there is any resolution to my issues with them, but I did mention the ad stating it had no mechanical problems despite my providing them with a copy from the Dodge dealership I took it to listing the problems. I just want it to be on record - I refuse to have such a horrible experience go without my telling about it, I guess. I have only filed one other complaint to the BBB in my life, so you could say that this one really stands out for me. Thanks for your support, everyone!
David
73179,#7Consumer Comment
Mon, March 28, 2005
I am glad you stood up to them idiots. i hate car dealerships they think they can roll over you if your credit is not perfect or you do not have a mile high pile of cash!!! thats why il stic kwith my 1995 ford probe i am the 2nd owner of this car it runs fine and it has ice cold air and a awesome heater. i get deals in the mail all the time *YOUR APPROVED* COME DOWN WE CASN GET YOU IN A 2002 MODEL CAR OR A NEWER CAR...... SO I GO IN I ALREADY HAVE THE FOLLOWING IN A FILE FOLDER.. 8 REFERENCESC ALL INCLUDING PHONE CONTACT + EMAIL ADDRESS. LAST 12 MONTHS WORTH OF PAY STUDS FROM JAN 1 TO DEC 12 2004. COPY OF MY FULL COVERAGE AUTO INS. DATE OF MY EMPLOYEMENT FORM START TO CURRENT. PRINT OUT OF MY JOB ADDRESS AND PHONE AND FAX. INFORMATION ON MY HOME AND ULIITY BILLS I PAY. INFORMATION ON MY PAYMENT BACKGROUND ON MY PROBE HOW I PAID IT OFF + 4 OTHER CARS IN THE LAST 5 YEARS. I FILL OUT THE APP TELL THE *JERK SALES MEN* TO KEEP THE FOLDER I HAVE OTHER COPYS!! HE COMES BACK IN OKAY I HAVE A LIST OF CARS FOR YOU TO PICK FROM I SAY NO,NO,NO THE LETTER SAID I COULD GET A 2002 AND UP NEWER CAR INCLUDING HONDA'S, PT CURISERS,SMALL LIGHT DUTY EXTENDED CAB TRUCKS, AND FAMILY 4 DOOR CAR ON THE LOT!! HE SAYS I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE LETTER STATES..I AM TELLING YOU HAVE 12 CARS TO PIC FROM......AND THAT FALLS UNDER YOUR CREDIT HISTORY.... 2001 GRAND AM....123,089 MILES ON IT WIHT MAJOR OIL LEAK. ASKING PRICE 11,500% 2002 CAVLIER WITH 89,000 MILES ON IT AND IT NEEDED A FRONT END ALIGHTMENT BOTH FRONT TIRES WORN UNEVEN AND BALD. 9,500% 2000 NEON WITH 67,000 MILES WRECK AND CHAEPLY REAPIRED. MILES UNKNOWN 5,400$ 2002 ford ranger mitched match tires and cracked windshiled 45,000 7,800$ 2002 NEON DRIVER SEAT RIPS IN IT AND CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON. 47,000 6,700$ 2003 GRAND AM V6 CLEAN CONDITION BUT HAD WATER IN THE OIL. 23,000 MILES 8,900$ 2002 FORD CONTOUR WRECKED IN THE FRONT CHEAP MAKO PAINT JOB CHEESE PARTS TO COVER DAMAGE. 12,000 MILES 9,900$ WHAT A f**kING JOKE THIS PLACE WAS I TOLD HIM I WAS APPROVED FOR A CALL WITH 4,000 MILES OR BELOW AND I HAD CHANCE TO PICK OUT A CAR FROM ABOUT 200 NOT 12 JUNKERS..... COME TO FIND OUT MOST OF THEM WHERE TRADE IN FIXED HALF a*s TO BE RESOLD TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW ANY BETTER.....AND 4 OF THE *JUNKERS* WHERE FROM A RENTAL PLACE THAT TRADED THEM IN FOR NEWER CARS. I JUST OLD MY PAPER WORK AND GOT MY CAR AND LEFT..THEY TRY TO GET ME TO SIGN OFF ON MY CAR AS A TRADE IN......AND HAND OVER THE KEYS...I SAID NO NOT UNITLL I FIND THE CAR/TRUCK I WANT AND WORK PAYMENTS AND OTHER OPTIONS THAT FIT MY NEEDS.....WELL THE *JERK SALES MAN* DID NOT LIKE MY ATITUDE...HE MADE A COMMENT OT ANOTHER COWORKER HE HAS ABAD ATTITUDE AND WILL NOT TAKE NO FOR A ANSWER.......SO LETS GIVE HIM THE JUNK LIST AND BE DONE WHIH HIM!! AND THE OTHER COWORKER SAYS HE WILL PCIK ONE AND THEY MADE A BET OF 20$....... I TOLD HIM as I LEFT NEXT TIME SPEAK WHERE I CAN HEAR YOU DIPSHIT......AND I GUESS U LOST YOUR BET I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT CARS AND WHAT TO LOOK FOR SUCH AS THE THE RENTAL CAR PLACE ID TAG BEING REMOVED AND THE IMPRINT FADED INTO THE PAINT FROM BEING SUN BLEACHED. AND FOR THAT CAR WITH THE WATER IN THE OILS PROBLYFROM A CRACKED HEAD OR BLOCK OR BLOWN HEAD GASKET. SO I KNOW LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT SOMETHING MORON. HE SAYS GET THE HELL OUT OFHERE BFOR I HAVE YOU ARESSTED FOR ASSULT ON ME" I WAS LIKE WHAT ASSULT? I JUST TOLD THAT YOU WAS NOT GOING TO TAKE ME FOR A RIDE ON A WRECKED PIECE OF s**t THEN YOU THREATIN ME WITH THE POLICE" HE SAYS I CAN DO WHAT EVER I WANT....AND YOU CAN GO TO JAIL.......FOR THREATING ME. HE GOES BACK IN SIDE CALLS THE COPS THEY COME OUT.LITTLE DOES HE KNOW THERE WAS A OLDER LADY LISTENING TO THE WHOLE DEAL...AFTER THE POLICE TRYED TO CUFF ME SHE SPOKE UP AND TOLD WHAT SHE HEARD.....THEN THE COP ASKED HIM DID YOU DO THIS BECUAUSE HE BUSTED YOU FOR TRYING TO SELL HIM A LEMON? HE SAYS NO...THE COP TOLD HIM FILING A FALSE REPORT COULD BECOME A FEONLY THEN YOU CAN LOSE YOUR JOB OVER IT. SO HE ADDMITTED TO THE OFFICER HE LIED BECUASE I BUSTED HIM AND I WOULD BUY A CAR FROM HIM BECUASE I HAD A BAD ATTITUDE AND HE LOST HIS BET. LMAO...HE GOT ARESSTED ON THE SPOT FOR CALLING IN A FALSE REPORT.... SO THE NEXT DAY I GOT 2 PHONES CALLS FROM THE DEALR SHIP TO COME AND PICK OUT A 2003 TO 2005 CAR OR TRUCK AND THEY WOULD MAKE THE DEAL WORK WITH MY OFFER FOR PAYMENTS....... I TOLD THANKS BUT NO THANKS I LIKE HAVEING NO CAR PAYMENTS.......