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  • Report:  #411354

Complaint Review: Bank Of America - Wilmington Delaware

Reported By:
- Rio Rancho, New Mexico,
Submitted:
Updated:

Bank Of America
Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.
Phone:
800-448-7061
Web:
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Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
How does Bank of America help the average family? They don't.

A couple of years ago I was laid off and had to move my family cross country for a new job, during this time frame we had a new baby, and my wife, due to the relocation was out of work for a year. We lost a lot of money in our house and had to utilize our credit cards more than I would have liked. We were at least able to pay off our mortgage when our house sold. In order to help us in this time frame Bank of America was gracious enough to raise the rates on all of accounts with them. Unfortunately due to the lacks oversight of the Monopolies and Trade Commission, Bank of America had been able to acquire the majority of our credit cards and loans.

Last September my Wife went back to work full time and we started back on the path to debt reduction with the intention of buying a house when we had sufficiently reduced our debt load. So I started calling our creditors HSBC and Discover both reduced their rates and we have been reducing our outstanding balances with them. Then we get to Bank of America. Note they received almost $15,000 in interest from us last year. This amount would have gone a long way in the local economy (Sizable deposit on a house)

Ripoff #1: This morning I called Bank of America to request a reduction in my interest rate so that I could start reducing the principle amount owed. To this the lady I spoke to said that my debt load was too high and that I didn't qualify for a rate reduction. This on a loan that is currently at 20% and was originally taken out at 14.5%. The majority of the proceeds was used for education. She also said that if I didn't like the services then I could pay off the amount and close my accounts. When I said to her that "So it is Bank of America's policy to not have customers pay off there loans and keep them in debt", she immediately transferred me to a credit counselor at which time I was put on hold and did not get to speak to anyone further.

Ripoff #2: On a recent overseas trip I Bank of America charged my account for every transaction made with my Check Card / Visa (Foreign transaction fee). This is a new charge recently introduced and to the best of my knowledge has never been communicated to me. the charges amounted to $38.00 not much but its the principle when they also have just received a taxpayer bailout also with our money and also earned so much interest from my family last year.

The following actions will be completed by me and my family.

1. All of my family's financial business will be moved to a local credit union.

2. I will be contacting all of my elected representatives and speaking to them about Bank of Americas usury tactics.

3. I will support and assist in any way I can a class action lawsuit against Bank of America in their actions which are tantamount to theft.

DT

Rio Rancho, New Mexico

U.S.A.


6 Updates & Rebuttals

Stile

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
Renegotiating your rates and International transaction fees.

#2Consumer Suggestion

Wed, January 14, 2009

It sounds like you've been through some tough times, for which I sympathize, but I think you're placing undue fault at the bank's feet. First off you say that you were out of work and moved during which time the bank raised your rates. It would be common practice to raise your rates if you defaulted on a loan or line of credit, so I'm not sure why this would be a rip off. Now that you're in a better financial condition you're trying to pay back those obligations, but the bank isn't required to renegotiate your rates. They likely see you as a high risk of loss and so in order to offset that risk they keep you at a higher rate in order to make your loan profitable. After all, the bank is in business in order to make a profit. Let's put it to you this way. Two friends ask to borrow $10 for lunch. One of them has always paid you back in the past and you know he's good for it. The other one has borrowed a few times and has failed to pay you back on a few occassions. You only have $10. Which are you more likely to loan the $10 to? Most people would say the one that you know will pay you back. The bank is operating in exactly the same manner. It will loan greater amounts at lower rates to those in a better credit position because it knows the possibility of loss is lower. It may still loan to those in a worse credit position, but to justify the risk it requires greater profit because a larger percentage of those customers will create a loss. Secondly with regards to international transaction fees, this is a fee imposed by Visa, not any individual bank. I've worked in the financial industry for 5 years in both the credit and deposit worlds and this fee structure has been there since before I started. It's not a new fee, though it may be the first time you've paid attention to it. Visa charges the fee to offset the costs of currency exchanges. Consider that if you take US dollars to London, you're going to have to stop at a Thomas Cook or American Express currency exchange which will charge you a fee to convert your dollars to British Pounds. Visa does this same conversion, and likewise charges a fee for the service. While I appreciate you'd like the bank to be more forgiving, I'm not seeing a rip off here. PS - Jim, Bank of America actually did accept $25 billion of TARP money from the Treasury, however this was done not because they needed it, but because if some banks took it and others didn't it would make those banks taking the bailout appear weak and could cause consumers to lose confidence in those banks which would only make the situation worse. All the major banks participated in the bailout in order to prevent individual banks from being stigmatized.


Stile

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
Renegotiating your rates and International transaction fees.

#3Consumer Suggestion

Wed, January 14, 2009

It sounds like you've been through some tough times, for which I sympathize, but I think you're placing undue fault at the bank's feet. First off you say that you were out of work and moved during which time the bank raised your rates. It would be common practice to raise your rates if you defaulted on a loan or line of credit, so I'm not sure why this would be a rip off. Now that you're in a better financial condition you're trying to pay back those obligations, but the bank isn't required to renegotiate your rates. They likely see you as a high risk of loss and so in order to offset that risk they keep you at a higher rate in order to make your loan profitable. After all, the bank is in business in order to make a profit. Let's put it to you this way. Two friends ask to borrow $10 for lunch. One of them has always paid you back in the past and you know he's good for it. The other one has borrowed a few times and has failed to pay you back on a few occassions. You only have $10. Which are you more likely to loan the $10 to? Most people would say the one that you know will pay you back. The bank is operating in exactly the same manner. It will loan greater amounts at lower rates to those in a better credit position because it knows the possibility of loss is lower. It may still loan to those in a worse credit position, but to justify the risk it requires greater profit because a larger percentage of those customers will create a loss. Secondly with regards to international transaction fees, this is a fee imposed by Visa, not any individual bank. I've worked in the financial industry for 5 years in both the credit and deposit worlds and this fee structure has been there since before I started. It's not a new fee, though it may be the first time you've paid attention to it. Visa charges the fee to offset the costs of currency exchanges. Consider that if you take US dollars to London, you're going to have to stop at a Thomas Cook or American Express currency exchange which will charge you a fee to convert your dollars to British Pounds. Visa does this same conversion, and likewise charges a fee for the service. While I appreciate you'd like the bank to be more forgiving, I'm not seeing a rip off here. PS - Jim, Bank of America actually did accept $25 billion of TARP money from the Treasury, however this was done not because they needed it, but because if some banks took it and others didn't it would make those banks taking the bailout appear weak and could cause consumers to lose confidence in those banks which would only make the situation worse. All the major banks participated in the bailout in order to prevent individual banks from being stigmatized.


Stile

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
Renegotiating your rates and International transaction fees.

#4Consumer Suggestion

Wed, January 14, 2009

It sounds like you've been through some tough times, for which I sympathize, but I think you're placing undue fault at the bank's feet. First off you say that you were out of work and moved during which time the bank raised your rates. It would be common practice to raise your rates if you defaulted on a loan or line of credit, so I'm not sure why this would be a rip off. Now that you're in a better financial condition you're trying to pay back those obligations, but the bank isn't required to renegotiate your rates. They likely see you as a high risk of loss and so in order to offset that risk they keep you at a higher rate in order to make your loan profitable. After all, the bank is in business in order to make a profit. Let's put it to you this way. Two friends ask to borrow $10 for lunch. One of them has always paid you back in the past and you know he's good for it. The other one has borrowed a few times and has failed to pay you back on a few occassions. You only have $10. Which are you more likely to loan the $10 to? Most people would say the one that you know will pay you back. The bank is operating in exactly the same manner. It will loan greater amounts at lower rates to those in a better credit position because it knows the possibility of loss is lower. It may still loan to those in a worse credit position, but to justify the risk it requires greater profit because a larger percentage of those customers will create a loss. Secondly with regards to international transaction fees, this is a fee imposed by Visa, not any individual bank. I've worked in the financial industry for 5 years in both the credit and deposit worlds and this fee structure has been there since before I started. It's not a new fee, though it may be the first time you've paid attention to it. Visa charges the fee to offset the costs of currency exchanges. Consider that if you take US dollars to London, you're going to have to stop at a Thomas Cook or American Express currency exchange which will charge you a fee to convert your dollars to British Pounds. Visa does this same conversion, and likewise charges a fee for the service. While I appreciate you'd like the bank to be more forgiving, I'm not seeing a rip off here. PS - Jim, Bank of America actually did accept $25 billion of TARP money from the Treasury, however this was done not because they needed it, but because if some banks took it and others didn't it would make those banks taking the bailout appear weak and could cause consumers to lose confidence in those banks which would only make the situation worse. All the major banks participated in the bailout in order to prevent individual banks from being stigmatized.


Stile

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.
Renegotiating your rates and International transaction fees.

#5Consumer Suggestion

Wed, January 14, 2009

It sounds like you've been through some tough times, for which I sympathize, but I think you're placing undue fault at the bank's feet. First off you say that you were out of work and moved during which time the bank raised your rates. It would be common practice to raise your rates if you defaulted on a loan or line of credit, so I'm not sure why this would be a rip off. Now that you're in a better financial condition you're trying to pay back those obligations, but the bank isn't required to renegotiate your rates. They likely see you as a high risk of loss and so in order to offset that risk they keep you at a higher rate in order to make your loan profitable. After all, the bank is in business in order to make a profit. Let's put it to you this way. Two friends ask to borrow $10 for lunch. One of them has always paid you back in the past and you know he's good for it. The other one has borrowed a few times and has failed to pay you back on a few occassions. You only have $10. Which are you more likely to loan the $10 to? Most people would say the one that you know will pay you back. The bank is operating in exactly the same manner. It will loan greater amounts at lower rates to those in a better credit position because it knows the possibility of loss is lower. It may still loan to those in a worse credit position, but to justify the risk it requires greater profit because a larger percentage of those customers will create a loss. Secondly with regards to international transaction fees, this is a fee imposed by Visa, not any individual bank. I've worked in the financial industry for 5 years in both the credit and deposit worlds and this fee structure has been there since before I started. It's not a new fee, though it may be the first time you've paid attention to it. Visa charges the fee to offset the costs of currency exchanges. Consider that if you take US dollars to London, you're going to have to stop at a Thomas Cook or American Express currency exchange which will charge you a fee to convert your dollars to British Pounds. Visa does this same conversion, and likewise charges a fee for the service. While I appreciate you'd like the bank to be more forgiving, I'm not seeing a rip off here. PS - Jim, Bank of America actually did accept $25 billion of TARP money from the Treasury, however this was done not because they needed it, but because if some banks took it and others didn't it would make those banks taking the bailout appear weak and could cause consumers to lose confidence in those banks which would only make the situation worse. All the major banks participated in the bailout in order to prevent individual banks from being stigmatized.


Jim

Anaheim,
California,
U.S.A.
You're Wasting Your Time....

#6Consumer Comment

Tue, January 13, 2009

DT, some thoughts for you. 1. There are no such thing as usury laws in the vast majority of states any longer, including yours. I would point you to any complaint on this website regarding Cash Call, where the interest rate on a short-term loan exceeds 99%. 2. All rates are disclosed in the account agreement and can be asked for at any point when you visit the bank. That charge you speak is in the agreement. 3. You're several years late to the class action lawsuit party. The bank won - that's why they can do what they can do. 4. Bank of America didn't get a bailout from the government. Yours is a tough situation to be in and I sympathize. I would seriously consider a credit counselor not affiliated with any bank to help you determine the right course of action to maximize the effect of your debt reduction strategy....


Robert

Irvine,
California,
U.S.A.
Questions..

#7Consumer Comment

Tue, January 13, 2009

Were Discover and HSBC Credit Cards and what is the balance of those? What type of "loan" is the BofA account and what is the balance? What was the reason for your overseas trip?

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