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  • Report:  #27172

Complaint Review: Bay Area Business Council BABC; Peter J. Porcelli Jr. President Anita Coorey Compliance Officer - Largo Florida

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Bay Area Business Council BABC; Peter J. Porcelli Jr. President Anita Coorey Compliance Officer
801 W Bay Dr., Ste. 201 Largo, 33770 Florida, U.S.A.
Phone:
727-518-7750
Web:
N/A
Tell us has your experience with this business or person been good? What's this?
The ORIGINAL bust on this SAME company.

FIRST BUST: FBI, postal service raid Largo business

Officials are tight-lipped about the afternoon raid of Bay Area Business Council offices, where items were confiscated and ordered sealed by a court.

By CHRIS TISCH

St. Petersburg Times, published February 10, 2001

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LARGO -- Susan Trevena thought she recognized the suits two days ago. FBI, she thought.

They were hanging around in the lobby of the First Union building, 801 West Bay Drive. Trevena, who works in her husband's law office in that building, wondered what they were up to.

She found out Friday. A swarm of suited FBI agents raided a business in her building. When she left for the day, six or seven agents got on the elevator with her. They were taking boxes and crates with them, she said.

Trevena, her husband, John, and the postal carrier who brings mail to the building identified the raided business as Bay Area Business Council, which is in Suite 201. Officials from the company could not be reached for comment Friday.

The Trevenas said they believe Bay Area Business Council was involved in telemarketing or possibly an Internet-related business.

Federal officials confirmed that they served two search warrants in Largo on Friday but would not say where.

Largo police, who stood by while the warrants were served, said both warrants were served at businesses, one at the First Union building and the other on Tall Pines Drive.

FBI spokeswoman Pam Salerno said the Postal Inspection Service, the law enforcement arm of the U.S. Postal Service, also was involved in the search warrants. Largo police and Pinellas County sheriff's deputies stood by, she said.

Salerno said the search warrants "are in connection with an ongoing investigation." Information from any items taken during the searches will be discussed with the U.S. Attorney's Office, she said.

She said the search warrants and affidavits were ordered sealed by the court, so she could say no more. A message left on the voice mail of the Clearwater-based agent in charge of the investigation was not returned Friday.

Steve Cole, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Tampa, confirmed the searches but could say no more. "We're not really at liberty to say anything at this point," he said.

Linda Walker, a spokeswoman with the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, confirmed that her agency was assisting the FBI. "We are assisting on this case. The FBI is the lead agency," she said.

Walker said a member of the agency's fraud team was working on the case. She said the agency investigates any crime committed through the mail, whether it be drugs or bombs in the mail, or frauds or schemes involving checks, sweepstakes or charities.

"We work a lot of different cases," she said. "Anything that's through the mail, that gives us jurisdiction to work it. Any criminal offense that's committed through the mail we have jurisdiction to get involved in."

The Trevenas said a number of law enforcement sedans, with agents inside, arrived at the building around noon Friday. They said agents stayed all afternoon.

Susan Trevena said she thought the business had about 40 employees.

John Trevena said agents were seizing records and going through computers at the business.

George Reiss, who delivers mail to the business, said he was making his rounds Friday when he came to Bay Area Business Council and was confronted by an FBI agent who took the mail. Reiss said he had to call his office to report that the mail had been intercepted.

Reiss said a lot of certified and registered mail -- mostly packages -- are returned to the business every day. He said on Mondays there are sometimes up to 50 packages returned; there were about 20 on Friday, he said.

"It's really been consuming me," he said of the heavy load. "All these are coming back. It would come in mountains.

"When I went in there today, all hell broke loose," he added. "The Largo police were in there, the FBI was in there. And the FBI agent said, "I want to look at your mail' and signed off on it."

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SECOND BUST: (Partial Article)

Federal agents shut down telemarketer

Records are seized and assets frozen at Bay Area Business Council after hundreds of consumer complaints nationwide.

By CHRIS TISCH, Times Staff Writer

St. Petersburg Times

published August 17, 2002

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LARGO -- Federal authorities have shut down a Largo telemarketing business that has been accused of using deceptive tactics to sell charge cards to people with poor credit histories.

Armed with a court order, officials with the Federal Trade Commission, the FBI and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service entered the office of Bay Area Business Council on Thursday morning and ordered employees out. Federal authorities then took control of the company's office, which is in the First Union building at 801 West Bay Blvd. Officials changed the locks on the door, secured information on the company's computers and began to freeze the company's assets, said Stephen T. Bobo, a Chicago attorney who is the court-appointed receiver of the company.

The Bay Area Business Council has been the subject of many consumer complaints. The Better Business Bureau of West Florida lists the company as having an unsatisfactory record because "they have a pattern of complaints concerning misrepresentation in their selling practices, billing disputes and requests for refunds."

In North Carolina, a Superior Court judge ordered the company to stop doing business in that state after more than two dozen people complained that company representatives lied or tricked them before taking their money. "Bay Area Business Council used a slick telemarketing pitch to take consumers' money," North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper said. "They promised consumers a real credit card, but what consumers got was a useless piece of plastic." In February 2001, FBI agents and postal inspectors executed a search warrant at the business and took crates of documents. No criminal charges have been filed against the company, but consumer advocates say the company is one of the most notorious telemarketers in the country.

"We've gotten hundreds of complaints," said Ed Magedson, editor of font size=+2>RIPOFFREPORT.COM, which allows consumers to post complaints on its Web site. "I must have thousands of e-mail complaints on them. They are in the top of the credit card scams."

The company is owned by Peter J. Porcelli, 50, who gained some attention in the late 1990s when he owned a fast-pitch softball team, the Tampa Bay Smokers, which won several national championships. "I think MY FRIENDS AT THE FTC HAVE SOME BAD INFORMATION, and all of that will be resolved," Porcelli said Friday, calling from a softball championship in Ontario.

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Comment:

(Ontario?? WAS HE PICKING MONEY UP, OR DROPPING IT OFF????)

HIS FRIENDS? HIS FRIENDS AT FTC??? Which ones might they be?? the ones that get a piece of the pie?

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A hearing on the court order is scheduled for Wednesday in Chicago. "We fully intend to deal with that next Wednesday at the hearing, and I think everything will be resolved," Porcelli said.

FTC officials said they could not comment on the court order that shut down Bay Area Business Council. The order was sealed by the court so authorities have time to seize and freeze the company's assets and operations, officials said. A related company in Sunrise also was shut down this week. Officials said other companies called customers for Bay Area Business Council.

North Carolina customers also were promised a Florida vacation, which none of them received, said Noelle Taylor, a spokeswoman for the attorney general's office. Rank said he told the company not to call him again, to put him on their do-not-call list. They called three more times, he said. "Some consumers also said they had their accounts debited without authorizing it," Taylor said.

Donna

N Richland Hills, Texas

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9 Updates & Rebuttals

Donna

N Richland Hills,
Vermont,
BABC * Peter Porcelli * Florida Business's

#2Consumer Comment

Mon, August 19, 2002

Officer/RA Name Entity Name Document Number PORCELLI, PETER J ENERGY CONTROL DESIGN SYSTEMS, CORP. F92656 PORCELLI, PETER J PRINT PRODUCTS, INC. P98000091436 PORCELLI, PETER J ENERGY CONTROL DESIGN SYSTEMS, CORP. F92656 PORCELLI, PETER J II SR. MARKETING CONSULTANTS, INC. P00000026896 PORCELLI, PETER J II SPECIAL TECH CORP. P01000119579 PORCELLI, PETER J II AMERICAN LEISURE CARD CORP. P01000121709 PORCELLI, PETER J II BAY MEMBERSHIPS, INC. P02000080720 PORCELLI, PETER J II BAY VACATIONS, INC. P02000082185 PORCELLI, PETER J II SUITE-P HOLDINGS, INC. P95000085689 PORCELLI, PETER J II BAY AREA BUSINES COUNCIL, INC. P96000016198 PORCELLI, PETER J II PETE-NIK HOLDINGS, INC. S92197 PORCELLI, PETER J II MARKETING RESPONSE GROUP & LASER COMPANY, INC. V58138 PORCELLI, PETER J II SR. MARKETING CONSULTANTS, INC. P00000026896 PORCELLI, PETER J II SPECIAL TECH CORP. P01000119579 PORCELLI, PETER J II AMERICAN LEISURE CARD CORP. P01000121709 PORCELLI, PETER J II BAY MEMBERSHIPS, INC. P02000080720 PORCELLI, PETER J II BAY VACATIONS, INC. P02000082185 PORCELLI, PETER J II SUITE-P HOLDINGS, INC. P95000085689 PORCELLI, PETER J II BAY AREA BUSINES COUNCIL, INC. P96000016198 PORCELLI, PETER J. JR. P.J.P. HORIZONS, INC. J02545 PORCELLI, PETER J., JR. EXQUISITE EEL, INC. K03666 PORCELLI, PETER J., JR. MARKETING RESPONSE CORPORATION K34766 PORCELLI, PETER J. JR. MARKETING RESPONSE GROUP, INC. L07156 PORCELLI, PETER J., JR. PJP COM & LASER, INC. L50009 PORCELLI, PETER J JR SPECTRUM MEDIA GROUP, L.C. L95000000719 PORCELLI, PETER J JR TAMPA SMOKERS, INC. N94000001964 PORCELLI, PETER J JR CREATIVE LASER SPECIALISTS, INC. P93000044453 PORCELLI, PETER J JR MARKETING MAILING SERVICES, INC. P93000044459 PORCELLI, PETER J JR PJP LASER COMPANY, INC. P93000044652 PORCELLI, PETER J JR PALM HARBOR HOLDINGS, INC. P93000044660 PORCELLI, PETER J JR HILLSBOROUGH HOLDINGS, INC. P94000090956 PORCELLI, PETER J JR JET EXPRESS PRINTING, INC. P96000041525 PORCELLI, PETER J JR COMMERCIAL LASER DIVEST, INC. P96000094798 PORCELLI, PETER J., JR. SERVICE BUREAU INTERNATIONAL, INC. S92195 PORCELLI, PETER J.,JR P.J.P. HORIZONS, INC. J02545 PORCELLI, PETER J., JR. EXQUISITE EEL, INC. K03666 PORCELLI, PETER J., JR. MARKETING RESPONSE CORPORATION K34766 PORCELLI, PETER J., JR. PJP COM & LASER, INC. L50009 PORCELLI, PETER, JR. AMERICAN HEALTH INDUSTRIES, INC. K03641 PORCELLI, PETER JR INTERSTATE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS, INC. 536656 PORCELLI, PETER J.,SR. INTERSTATE CREDIT SERVICES, INC. 491887 PORCELLI, PETER J.,SR. INTERSTATE CREDIT SERVICES, INC. 491887 PORCELLI, PETER J SR INTERSTATE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS, INC. 536656 PORCELLI, PETER J SR INTERSTATE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS, INC. 536656 PORCELLI, PETER J., SR. PETRON ASSOCIATES, INC. J95587 PORCELLI, PETER J.,SR. INTERSTATE CREDIT SERVICES, INC. 491887 PORCELLI, PETER, SR. VITAGEN , INC. K03670 PORCELLI, PETER, SR. AMERICAN HEALTH INDUSTRIES, INC. K03641 PORCELLI, PETER, SR. VITAGEN , INC. K03670 PORCELLI, PETER SR COMMUNICATIONS ADJUSTMENT BUREAU, INC. K34784


Donna

N Richland Hills,
Texas,
The FTC filed suit

#3Consumer Comment

Mon, August 19, 2002

Not the FIRST time for Peter Porcelli, he has "Scoffed at the Law" for a long time. He seems to be getting away with it, so why not? This is old information, but you will see his name involved with this group. UNRESPONSIVE To Clients' Injunctions The FTC filed suit (1/19/96) against Marketing Response Group, Inc. ("MRG") and two Tampa, Florida-area businessmen -- PETER PORCELLI, Jr., and William S. Kilichowski -- and four other companies they operate: Marketing Response Group and Laser Company, Inc., Service Bureau International, Inc., Pete-Nik Holdings, Inc., and Palm Harbor Holdings, Inc. for allegedly acting with numerous telemarketers nationwide to defraud consumers with direct mail promotions that falsely promise quick land sales, guaranteed awards, and free vacations.


Donna

N Richland Hills,
Texas,
The FTC filed suit

#4Consumer Comment

Mon, August 19, 2002

Not the FIRST time for Peter Porcelli, he has "Scoffed at the Law" for a long time. He seems to be getting away with it, so why not? This is old information, but you will see his name involved with this group. UNRESPONSIVE To Clients' Injunctions The FTC filed suit (1/19/96) against Marketing Response Group, Inc. ("MRG") and two Tampa, Florida-area businessmen -- PETER PORCELLI, Jr., and William S. Kilichowski -- and four other companies they operate: Marketing Response Group and Laser Company, Inc., Service Bureau International, Inc., Pete-Nik Holdings, Inc., and Palm Harbor Holdings, Inc. for allegedly acting with numerous telemarketers nationwide to defraud consumers with direct mail promotions that falsely promise quick land sales, guaranteed awards, and free vacations.


Donna

N Richland Hills,
Texas,
The FTC filed suit

#5Consumer Comment

Mon, August 19, 2002

Not the FIRST time for Peter Porcelli, he has "Scoffed at the Law" for a long time. He seems to be getting away with it, so why not? This is old information, but you will see his name involved with this group. UNRESPONSIVE To Clients' Injunctions The FTC filed suit (1/19/96) against Marketing Response Group, Inc. ("MRG") and two Tampa, Florida-area businessmen -- PETER PORCELLI, Jr., and William S. Kilichowski -- and four other companies they operate: Marketing Response Group and Laser Company, Inc., Service Bureau International, Inc., Pete-Nik Holdings, Inc., and Palm Harbor Holdings, Inc. for allegedly acting with numerous telemarketers nationwide to defraud consumers with direct mail promotions that falsely promise quick land sales, guaranteed awards, and free vacations.


Donna

N Richland Hills,
Texas,
The FTC filed suit

#6Consumer Comment

Mon, August 19, 2002

Not the FIRST time for Peter Porcelli, he has "Scoffed at the Law" for a long time. He seems to be getting away with it, so why not? This is old information, but you will see his name involved with this group. UNRESPONSIVE To Clients' Injunctions The FTC filed suit (1/19/96) against Marketing Response Group, Inc. ("MRG") and two Tampa, Florida-area businessmen -- PETER PORCELLI, Jr., and William S. Kilichowski -- and four other companies they operate: Marketing Response Group and Laser Company, Inc., Service Bureau International, Inc., Pete-Nik Holdings, Inc., and Palm Harbor Holdings, Inc. for allegedly acting with numerous telemarketers nationwide to defraud consumers with direct mail promotions that falsely promise quick land sales, guaranteed awards, and free vacations.


The reason why have removed links, e-mail addresses or phone numbers from this report is because people have, in the past, attempted the following, ...all too often.

#70

Mon, August 19, 2002

Posting LINKS

Many times links to unknown web sites will cause your pc to freeze up and /or cause you to get a computer virus, virtually rendering your computer useless. Most of the time, this is the work of a Company or an Individual who has been reported.

Many Government links are no better than the BBB and are just a waste of time, giving you false hope. Many government sites (like the BBB) just collect all information from you, the consumer, but never make that information available, so consumers will NOT be educated as to what exactly they should be looking out for. On the other hand, many government agencies have and do come to the Rip-off Report for information. We have been assisting many government agencies for some time now, including the FBI and Attorney General offices from around the country..

Now that all these Rip-off Reports are out in the open for everyone to see, in a way, this embarrasses these agencies into doing something when they see so many reports on a Company or Individual, because they are now out in the open for all to see. Unfortunately, many (not all) Attorney General Office's and government agencies will not move against a rip-off unless there is going to be some sort of publicity on the rip-off. By reporting your experience on the Rip-off Report, is the next best thing to getting your story on TV or in a newspaper. Most national TV networks and many local TV stations from all around the country come to the Rip-off Report for information they will not get from the BBB, Attorney General office's or any other government agency. Rip-off Report has instigated many local and national stories, resulting in help for victims, in one way or another. Most government agencies will never even bother with rip-offs unless it involves $50,000 or more. Now that the government is cutting back even more dollars for these types of programs, this number will even get higher and we can expect even less to get done, by even less people to work on all these rip-offs.

LAWYERS :
We have also struggled with the following for a long time..

The reason why we delete phone numbers, ..all too often unscrupulous lawyers or individuals posing as lawyers are collecting victims information to only further victimize them. Many times, well-meaning consumers think they are going to collect names and get them to a lawyer who will do something. In every case we have allowed a consumer victim to do this, nothing has ever came of it. Consumers were under the impression that something will be done to get them help. In every case this did nothing but lead the consumer on, further victimizing them, and some consumers were mad at us. We feel it is our responsibility to check the legitimacy of the lawyer before advertising their service on the Rip-off Report.

We will also not allow lawyers to use this web site for free when they will end up taking a large amount of fees, leaving the victim with very little. There are many competent lawyers out there that know how to get the unscrupulous Companies or Individuals who ripped you off, to pay their fees. Those lawyers capable of this can post their numbers after checking with us here at the Rip-off Report.

POSTING YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS:

For similar reasons as mentioned above, we will not allow individuals to post e-mail addresses, so they can be contacted for more info they claim they cannot post. If that person can contact YOU and get the information, so will everyone else be contacting you anyway, and, if it's good enough for them to receive it by contacting you, then you should be able to post that information for everyone to see and know about. And, many times, in an attempt to get your contact information, consumers will leave an email address; this is just a ploy to sell you a product or some other service. Most likely, you will end up on other junk mail lists. ..if they have something to sell, they should place an advertisement showing support to Rip-off Report.com so we can further help consumers.

ADDITIONAL NOTE, ...about our advertisers:

As an extra added precaution to our readers, even all our PAID advertisements are checked out to the best of our ability before allowing them to be placed on the Rip-off Report. WE have turned down many advertisers to date. Advertisers on the Rip-off Report know, they are not immune from a Rip-off Report being filed on them. How many times do you see Rip-off companies advertising on TV and in publications when you know there are so many complaints about them!

We welcome your feedback on this subject.

Click on the REBUTTAL BOX below and submit a Consumer Comment so everyone can see.

ED Magedson
[email protected]
badbusinessbureau.com
www.ripoffreport.com

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Samona

Joppa,
Maryland,
Thanks Donna

#8Consumer Comment

Sun, August 18, 2002

Donna,

Thank you for updating my report and giving me Chris's info. I have read everything you listed and you some do have alot of knowlege on this matter. If we could talk, it think we could fill in each others info. Because I have info that I could not post on the web for various reason.

Please email me at

Thanks,


Donna

N Richland Hills,
Texas,
BABC and OTHER BAD TELEMARKETERS LOCATIONS

#9Consumer Comment

Sun, August 18, 2002

The biggest of the boiler rooms is ASSAIL, INC. St George Utah. Hope the FTC will get them as well. They are "hired" by the scammers to SELL THEIR FRAUDS!
BABC uses this facility to telemarket. Their phone numbers are "PINGED" out of Largo, FL to them, so they can not be traced! Wonder why that is?

One of the biggest scam rings is operated by AIM, (Neil Haboush, Jacques Dion, Nicole Bertrand, Luis Lubian, Joel and Sherry Greenspoon, not sure if Glenn Erickson is in THAT one, but he is sure behind a lot of them. and others)out of Canada.

They LOVE ASSAIL, INC. ST GEORGE, UTAH! ASSAIL loves them and victims too, they recently installed a TWO MILLION DOLLAR phone system to help them scam money quicker and easier. (installed with YOUR MONEY!)
The DBA's they use are NUMEROUS and WIDESPREAD.


Donna

N Richland Hills,
Texas,
FTC PROJECT SCOFFLAW

#10Consumer Suggestion

Sun, August 18, 2002

WHY NOT USE THIS ON:
SOUTHERN TELMARK, Gregg Holloway
BABC, Peter Porcelli
CAPITAL CHOICE CONSUMER CREDIT, Ricardo Martinez
among many many others!

This FTC Project has been in effect since 1996, MAKE THEM USE IT!
WWW.FTC.GOV File Complaints!
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FTC Report Highlights Battle to Detect and Prosecute VIOLATORS of FTC-Obtained Court Orders

A Federal Trade Commission law enforcement initiative launched five years ago to detect and prosecute violators of FTC-obtained court orders has resulted in 27 civil and/or criminal contempt prosecutions. As a result of these prosecutions, 12 defendants have been convicted, serving a combined 28 years of incarceration or home detention, and almost $4 million in penalties, fines and redress have been ordered. A report released today highlighting the first five years of the FTC initiative called "Project Scofflaw" describes these and other results. The report also discusses Project Scofflaw's origins, model order language that helps the FTC monitor order compliance, and the ongoing cooperation and coordination between the FTC and the Department of Justice, which brings criminal contempt matters on the Commission's behalf.

According to Howard Beales, Director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection, "Project Scofflaw signals to would-be scofflaws that they risk incarceration if they violate FTC-obtained court orders. When we obtain an order, we expect defendants to comply and conform their behavior to the law. Those that don't can expect to hear from us."

The FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection established "Project Scofflaw" in 1996 to institutionalize Commission procedures designed to detect recidivists and deter violations through civil and criminal contempt actions. As noted in the report, during the first five years, 27 defendants have been prosecuted criminally for violating preliminary or final orders, or civilly for violating final orders. DOJ and the U.S. Attorney's Offices have successfully prosecuted criminally 12 of these defendants for engaging in conduct that was banned; failing to post bonds; or making prohibited misrepresentations. In eight of these cases, an FTC staff attorney was designated as a Special Assistant U.S. Attorney to assist DOJ or the prosecuting U.S. Attorney's Office. Eleven defendants have been prosecuted for civil contempt, and four others are under indictment or awaiting sentencing.

The Commission vote authorizing staff to issue the Project Scofflaw Report was 5-0.

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