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  • Report:  #54822

Complaint Review: Bernard Haldane Associates - Ottawa Ontario

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- Toronto, Ontario,
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Bernard Haldane Associates
55 Metcalfe St, Suite 1460 Ottawa, K1P 6L5 Ontario, Canada
Phone:
613-234-2530
Web:
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In July 2002 I receved a call from the Vice President of Customer Services Mr. Martin de Bono to have meeting with him in his office. After asking me about my experience and skills he said that they had a big data base, built and maintained over 50 years of success in many places around the world and that they would be able to find me the propper position (job) according to my experience and skills.

He asked me to go with my wife to a second meeting. He told us that 75% of the jobs were in the hidden market and that they had the contacts in their data base and they were able to find me a job withinn the next 60 days.

When he menctioned the fees (Cnd $5700) I told him that I was not able to pay that big amunt of money. Then he left the office for about 10 minutes. When he came back, he said that I had the chance to pay initially $2311 and two equal monthly payments. In addition, because of I did not have a job, he offered to get me "an immediate bridge position" while I was prepared and they make all the marketing campaign to assure me the appropiate position, so I signed and made the initial payment.

The advisor suggested me to search in the newspaper and the internet, totally opposite to what they say. The jobs are in the hidden market and they have the contacts. THIS IS FALSE. They don't have any contact list.

I asked many times for the immediate bridge position without any answer. I told him that beacuse of that offer I signed with them.

After the first month, without any result and the "immediate bridge position", I told him that I wasnt able to do the second payment. To make the things easier for me they requested posdated checks dividing the balance into 11 monthly payments "without interests". Two checks were collected.

Mr. de Bono left the office and his position was taken by Minto Roy, who I talked with several times about what was offered and that I wanted my money back. He told me that they have spent with me more hours than with a regular customer and that they were not able to continue the service until I pay the balance.

He suggested me to find a job by myself and when I was able to continue the payments to comee back, that my file was going to be kept on hold until I was able to continue the payments.

As summary, I have paid Cnd $2900 and just had few meetings with the advisor, in which although my requests, he didnt showed any interest in helping me. Also they suspended unilaterally the services.

I sent a letter to Minto Roy telling him that I did not wanted to continue with their service and that I wanted to be reimbursed. I just got an e-mail from his hotmail account saying that was going contact me, but I havent received any answer.

I placed a complain also in the customer care section of their web page, without answer as well.

It's not fair to pay such amount for the extremly bad service they provide.

Frank

Toronto, Ontario
Canada

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5 Updates & Rebuttals

Franklin

Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada
Complaint solved

#2Author of original report

Tue, May 20, 2003

I have been in contact with the company and we have agreed to an amicable resolution of all elements in my complaint. All of my differences with Bernard Haldane Associates have been resolved to my satisfaction.


Dan Davies-Ostrom

Ottawa,
Ontario,
Canada
I had a somewhat similar experience with the Bernard Haldane office in Ottawa.

#3Consumer Comment

Sun, May 11, 2003

As with the above posting, I had a somewhat similar experience with the Bernard Haldane office in Ottawa. I moved to Ottawa in September of 2002 - Ottawa was close to my hometown, and my wife and I have friends in the city. We had also just come back from teaching in Japan, and did not have jobs when we arrived - we had money saved from our teaching jobs - enough to last a few months while we searched. A few days after posting my resume on Monster.ca, I recieved an e-mail from the Bernard Haldane office indicating that I had been selected for a free career consultation - this was good news at first as it meant that I might be going somewhere. I went to the first meeting and had some vague comments made about how I could improve my resume and other general things - then came the request that I bring my wife in as well. My wife and I talked about it, and decided that we would do some research on the issue - I'm not sure if we found the information here or on other websites, but we did find some postings indicating that doing business with Bernard Haldane was not the best idea. So, I sent an e-mail to my career consultant, whose name I cannot remember, asking her about the fees and other issues, and told her that I would be cancelling my second meeting unless she could respond and answer my questions. She did respond, but it was a badly written response and she did not answer any of the questions that I had asked. So we e-mailed her and told her we were not coming. A few hours later we recieved a phone call from her supervisor asking us to come in and talk - we refused and said that we were not interested - we didn't have that kind of money - in a choice between finding a job and eating, I think I'd choose eating. We were informed that the postings on the internet were from "only two or three disatisfied customers", people who had "too many expectations of what the company could do for them". When they found out that my wife had also been teaching in Japan, and had a Masters Degree, he said, "oh, well that changes everything". Not sure what he meant by that - possibly it meant that we had more money than they thought - although I am not sure what they thought she was doing for the 15 months we were in Japan... Anyway, it seems that there is a pattern to Bernard Haldane's approach - read any of the postings here and you will see it. They target people who are out of work or new to the area - they bring the person in once to have a meeting with them and get some personal information. They also tell you about their reputation, and how long they have been doing business. Then they get you to bring your spouse in and hit you with what their service will cost. If the spouse shows any kind of hesitancy, then they are not supporting your career goals...the age old divide and conquer strategy. What can you do as a consumer? Do your research - go to their website - it isn't helpful at all. Don't be afraid to ask questions. A reputable "head-hunting" company is paid by the companies they are working for, not the people they are head-hunting. Also, be suspicious of any employment company that can't afford to have their own e-mail server - any good company will have it's own e-mail address - if they are using Hotmail, Yahoo, Canada.com, Canoe.com, or another free, web-based e-mail system, ask yourself: why? In the long run, my wife and I think we did the right thing - and the reason I am writing this is because we were downtown earlier today and saw that someone had put up posters all around the market area of Ottawa advertising this website, and telling people to look here for info on Bernard Haldane.


Dan Davies-Ostrom

Ottawa,
Ontario,
Canada
I had a somewhat similar experience with the Bernard Haldane office in Ottawa.

#4Consumer Comment

Sun, May 11, 2003

As with the above posting, I had a somewhat similar experience with the Bernard Haldane office in Ottawa. I moved to Ottawa in September of 2002 - Ottawa was close to my hometown, and my wife and I have friends in the city. We had also just come back from teaching in Japan, and did not have jobs when we arrived - we had money saved from our teaching jobs - enough to last a few months while we searched. A few days after posting my resume on Monster.ca, I recieved an e-mail from the Bernard Haldane office indicating that I had been selected for a free career consultation - this was good news at first as it meant that I might be going somewhere. I went to the first meeting and had some vague comments made about how I could improve my resume and other general things - then came the request that I bring my wife in as well. My wife and I talked about it, and decided that we would do some research on the issue - I'm not sure if we found the information here or on other websites, but we did find some postings indicating that doing business with Bernard Haldane was not the best idea. So, I sent an e-mail to my career consultant, whose name I cannot remember, asking her about the fees and other issues, and told her that I would be cancelling my second meeting unless she could respond and answer my questions. She did respond, but it was a badly written response and she did not answer any of the questions that I had asked. So we e-mailed her and told her we were not coming. A few hours later we recieved a phone call from her supervisor asking us to come in and talk - we refused and said that we were not interested - we didn't have that kind of money - in a choice between finding a job and eating, I think I'd choose eating. We were informed that the postings on the internet were from "only two or three disatisfied customers", people who had "too many expectations of what the company could do for them". When they found out that my wife had also been teaching in Japan, and had a Masters Degree, he said, "oh, well that changes everything". Not sure what he meant by that - possibly it meant that we had more money than they thought - although I am not sure what they thought she was doing for the 15 months we were in Japan... Anyway, it seems that there is a pattern to Bernard Haldane's approach - read any of the postings here and you will see it. They target people who are out of work or new to the area - they bring the person in once to have a meeting with them and get some personal information. They also tell you about their reputation, and how long they have been doing business. Then they get you to bring your spouse in and hit you with what their service will cost. If the spouse shows any kind of hesitancy, then they are not supporting your career goals...the age old divide and conquer strategy. What can you do as a consumer? Do your research - go to their website - it isn't helpful at all. Don't be afraid to ask questions. A reputable "head-hunting" company is paid by the companies they are working for, not the people they are head-hunting. Also, be suspicious of any employment company that can't afford to have their own e-mail server - any good company will have it's own e-mail address - if they are using Hotmail, Yahoo, Canada.com, Canoe.com, or another free, web-based e-mail system, ask yourself: why? In the long run, my wife and I think we did the right thing - and the reason I am writing this is because we were downtown earlier today and saw that someone had put up posters all around the market area of Ottawa advertising this website, and telling people to look here for info on Bernard Haldane.


Dan Davies-Ostrom

Ottawa,
Ontario,
Canada
I had a somewhat similar experience with the Bernard Haldane office in Ottawa.

#5Consumer Comment

Sun, May 11, 2003

As with the above posting, I had a somewhat similar experience with the Bernard Haldane office in Ottawa. I moved to Ottawa in September of 2002 - Ottawa was close to my hometown, and my wife and I have friends in the city. We had also just come back from teaching in Japan, and did not have jobs when we arrived - we had money saved from our teaching jobs - enough to last a few months while we searched. A few days after posting my resume on Monster.ca, I recieved an e-mail from the Bernard Haldane office indicating that I had been selected for a free career consultation - this was good news at first as it meant that I might be going somewhere. I went to the first meeting and had some vague comments made about how I could improve my resume and other general things - then came the request that I bring my wife in as well. My wife and I talked about it, and decided that we would do some research on the issue - I'm not sure if we found the information here or on other websites, but we did find some postings indicating that doing business with Bernard Haldane was not the best idea. So, I sent an e-mail to my career consultant, whose name I cannot remember, asking her about the fees and other issues, and told her that I would be cancelling my second meeting unless she could respond and answer my questions. She did respond, but it was a badly written response and she did not answer any of the questions that I had asked. So we e-mailed her and told her we were not coming. A few hours later we recieved a phone call from her supervisor asking us to come in and talk - we refused and said that we were not interested - we didn't have that kind of money - in a choice between finding a job and eating, I think I'd choose eating. We were informed that the postings on the internet were from "only two or three disatisfied customers", people who had "too many expectations of what the company could do for them". When they found out that my wife had also been teaching in Japan, and had a Masters Degree, he said, "oh, well that changes everything". Not sure what he meant by that - possibly it meant that we had more money than they thought - although I am not sure what they thought she was doing for the 15 months we were in Japan... Anyway, it seems that there is a pattern to Bernard Haldane's approach - read any of the postings here and you will see it. They target people who are out of work or new to the area - they bring the person in once to have a meeting with them and get some personal information. They also tell you about their reputation, and how long they have been doing business. Then they get you to bring your spouse in and hit you with what their service will cost. If the spouse shows any kind of hesitancy, then they are not supporting your career goals...the age old divide and conquer strategy. What can you do as a consumer? Do your research - go to their website - it isn't helpful at all. Don't be afraid to ask questions. A reputable "head-hunting" company is paid by the companies they are working for, not the people they are head-hunting. Also, be suspicious of any employment company that can't afford to have their own e-mail server - any good company will have it's own e-mail address - if they are using Hotmail, Yahoo, Canada.com, Canoe.com, or another free, web-based e-mail system, ask yourself: why? In the long run, my wife and I think we did the right thing - and the reason I am writing this is because we were downtown earlier today and saw that someone had put up posters all around the market area of Ottawa advertising this website, and telling people to look here for info on Bernard Haldane.


Dan Davies-Ostrom

Ottawa,
Ontario,
Canada
I had a somewhat similar experience with the Bernard Haldane office in Ottawa.

#6Consumer Comment

Sun, May 11, 2003

As with the above posting, I had a somewhat similar experience with the Bernard Haldane office in Ottawa. I moved to Ottawa in September of 2002 - Ottawa was close to my hometown, and my wife and I have friends in the city. We had also just come back from teaching in Japan, and did not have jobs when we arrived - we had money saved from our teaching jobs - enough to last a few months while we searched. A few days after posting my resume on Monster.ca, I recieved an e-mail from the Bernard Haldane office indicating that I had been selected for a free career consultation - this was good news at first as it meant that I might be going somewhere. I went to the first meeting and had some vague comments made about how I could improve my resume and other general things - then came the request that I bring my wife in as well. My wife and I talked about it, and decided that we would do some research on the issue - I'm not sure if we found the information here or on other websites, but we did find some postings indicating that doing business with Bernard Haldane was not the best idea. So, I sent an e-mail to my career consultant, whose name I cannot remember, asking her about the fees and other issues, and told her that I would be cancelling my second meeting unless she could respond and answer my questions. She did respond, but it was a badly written response and she did not answer any of the questions that I had asked. So we e-mailed her and told her we were not coming. A few hours later we recieved a phone call from her supervisor asking us to come in and talk - we refused and said that we were not interested - we didn't have that kind of money - in a choice between finding a job and eating, I think I'd choose eating. We were informed that the postings on the internet were from "only two or three disatisfied customers", people who had "too many expectations of what the company could do for them". When they found out that my wife had also been teaching in Japan, and had a Masters Degree, he said, "oh, well that changes everything". Not sure what he meant by that - possibly it meant that we had more money than they thought - although I am not sure what they thought she was doing for the 15 months we were in Japan... Anyway, it seems that there is a pattern to Bernard Haldane's approach - read any of the postings here and you will see it. They target people who are out of work or new to the area - they bring the person in once to have a meeting with them and get some personal information. They also tell you about their reputation, and how long they have been doing business. Then they get you to bring your spouse in and hit you with what their service will cost. If the spouse shows any kind of hesitancy, then they are not supporting your career goals...the age old divide and conquer strategy. What can you do as a consumer? Do your research - go to their website - it isn't helpful at all. Don't be afraid to ask questions. A reputable "head-hunting" company is paid by the companies they are working for, not the people they are head-hunting. Also, be suspicious of any employment company that can't afford to have their own e-mail server - any good company will have it's own e-mail address - if they are using Hotmail, Yahoo, Canada.com, Canoe.com, or another free, web-based e-mail system, ask yourself: why? In the long run, my wife and I think we did the right thing - and the reason I am writing this is because we were downtown earlier today and saw that someone had put up posters all around the market area of Ottawa advertising this website, and telling people to look here for info on Bernard Haldane.

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