Terry D.
Fontana,#2Consumer Comment
Thu, July 30, 2009
I am a current investor with Fortuno Inc. operated by Bill Yotty, Barbara Thomas and Bruce Grogg. I know firsthand how their scam works. They con you into giving them your money with the promise of providing 'Cherry Picked' REO properties in the value range of $45,000 to $120,000 at a cost to the investor of $30,000 each. The investor does not have the ability to view prospective the properties as their inventory is supposedly to fluid to do so. Please see link to verify if you wish (http://genuinemillionaire.com/our-products.php). They promise you will not receive an undervalued property or you will receive a 'Swap Out' for a property that does fit their promised criteria. After they have your money, Fortuno will assign a property that is free and clear but is not worth the money provided. They will then tell you that it doesn't matter because they are going to sell it for much more than what the actual property value is. Bruce Grogg informed me of this personally. Fortuno will then place a buyer in the property who usually does not make the payments. I know this because I have spoken to many other Fortuno investors. Fortuno sold one of my homes in November of 2008 and I have yet to receive a single payment. My other home which has never been legally transferred into my name has yet to be sold. The purchase funds for these properties was submitted in September, 2008. Both of the homes I was assigned were and are worth less the purchase price. One of which I chose not to complete the purchase contract and Fortuno still removed my money from the so called escrow account. Contrary to what Fortuno claims the eviction process is extremely time consuming and expensive. I will not have access to my property until September, 1, 2009 by court order. Bruce Grogg informed me when I made a complaint that the property was quote Squared Away". These people have ripped me off to the tune of $60,000 and are completely indifferent. They will, without a doubt take your money and not even come close to providing what they promise. To Badly Burnt I have also filed a complaint with the San Juacuine County Disitrict Attorneys Office. And am also currently working on a class action. Anyone wishing to do so can Email me at [email protected]. I have the district attorney complaint forms scaned into PDF format and can forward them to you.
Badly Burnt
DuBois,#3Consumer Comment
Wed, July 29, 2009
Well Bruce, as one of your 'investors', I find it hard to read what you are saying. I sat in on your LA seminar where you made a lot of promises, and looked at the websites marketing your claims. The 'Genuine Millionaire Club' you called it. Well, I have had the same experience as others mentioned here. I purchased properties that were supposed to be in 'turn key', rent ready condition, had to wait 6 months to get them, and when I did get 'assigned' my properties, one was condemned by the city of Cleveland, and I received fines and charges for 'nuisance violations' on others because they were in such poor condition. The promise of a full refund made by Bill Yotty never materialized and I am pursuing legal action with the San Joaquin District Attorney's office. You can't do this to people and get away with it, and you can bet your name will be on the complaint I file.
B. Grogg
Midvale,#4REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, June 25, 2009
This rebuttal is to defend my (Bruce Grogg's) reputation, honor and good name against a ruthless and criminal smear campaign that has been launched on the Internet against me. The postings regarding Bruce Grogg & The Genuine Millionaire Conference are filled with lies, false accusations and criminal slander, and as per the news media which aired an expose on February 17th, 2009...this is a growing trend as the economy melts down and the job market heats up and is perpetrated by unscrupulous individuals and groups trying to eliminate their competition. This new phenomenon is called cyber slamming. As for the personal attack upon myself, I have now contacted 2 sets of attorneys and the FBI Cyber Crime Unit...it seems that the web site that the smear campaign is being launched on...hides behind the 1st amendment and allows 'anything' bad to be posted about a person or company regardless of fact or truth. This web site makes the claim that they are a third party and have no liability and do not 'screen' any submissions. However, I attempted to have several clients post 'good' and favorable information about me on this web site...but all good postings were rejected by their 'screeners' and returned with a simple explanation that the postings were not about rip offs. Needless to say, I am extremely frustrated. However, I now believe I have found the type of attorney I need and am pursuing a different option. Please understand my frustration and the unfairness of this situation. Someone posts lies, slander and damaging statements about you on a web site...the web site they post it on refuses to remove it based on the 1st amendment...because the information is all false and the person who posted it used fake information so they can't be traced or contacted...the web site says to pay them money (extortion) and they may take it down, and yet there is nothing you can do about it. The problem is, they have now even threatened my family...this isn't about a rip-off, it's a personal vendetta but its against the wrong person and the wrong company. I can however get sworn statements from my attorneys verifying the facts and statements and that the claims against me are not true. Please take a fresh look at these postings about my company and me, and look at how and when they were posted. They use false names, no contact info, the same attacking verbiage using different names from different parts of the country...several of the postings were from 'Stevey Wonder' and other fake names...if you read them...make sure you also read the rebuttals I posted against them, it is the only tool I have on these web sites to fight the lies. Look at how this site also works...it allows anyone to attack someone using complete false statements that are all in giant red letters...but only allows the accused small space to try and rebut what has been written against them. Another claim says to not do business with me personally and makes several degrading, false and actually illegal defaming claims against me. These stem from my having worked at a company called Acentus, and obviously so did they! I had worked at Acentus as an employee and was in charge of building their product line, creating the advertising and launching the ad campaigns, which is where whoever posted the information knows me. They claim that I owned the company and stole money from them and others from selling them stock??? I was only an employee and had no ownership, was not an officer, had no stock, no decision-making ability, never owned any shares or stock. I was only in charge of creating the products and media campaigns...and when Acentus did merge with a public company, College Partnership...I was terminated!! So...not only was I not an owner and had no dealings with their staff...I was terminated because the company they merged with already had someone in my position. I received no stock options, no severance pay, no bonus...just a thanks and goodbye, and I never had any part in harming anyone. Being terminated however was the catalyst that allowed me to launching my own company. The person(s) who wrote all the slander and lies about me even admitted in a rebuttal to one of my posted rebuttals that even if I wasn't the owner...I was just as guilty as they were?? At this point they even posted more slander and actual threats against my family and children! This is crazy, because if you use this logic, they would be just as guilty because they worked there as well?? The point here is, this is a personal vendetta attack and could happen to anyone...I hope for your sake it doesn't happen to you. Another smear campaign was posted regarding one of my other companies...by supposedly two different people in the country (both using the same exact verbiage and having the exact same children and claim) and both claiming that I sold them a product personally and that the company doesn't even exist! ALL FALSE and LIES...I have sales people that go on the road and am not involved in sales myself, the company is still in existence and thriving, and I have countless testimonials from children we have helped get into college! Call them at 1-800-640-1045 and ask about College Financial Services. We have hundreds even thousands of children we have helped and have raised SAT and ACT scores by as much as 800 points (4 to 5 points on the ACT) and helped kids get into college. Again...pure fabricated lies are being spread...all using this one web site that refuses to post good information or take down bad information. Again...look at the dates they were all posted...the style of writing...the fake names used...and how they cut and pasted their material and changed the fake names they used to post the different false complaints. I would hope that after reading this, if you have any questions about my character...simply google me, but skip the couple of fake 'bad postings on the scam site' and read the 15 to 20 great reviews on me that stretch back for years and many different companies, sports teams, and people I have helped. I have personal endorsements from some of the top people in the country...so please take the time to actually do your own research and look past these false postings...This could happen to anyone, even you. Sincerely Bruce Grogg
Stevey wonder
salt lake city,#5Author of original report
Fri, May 22, 2009
HERE IS BRUCE GROGGS ADDRESS..... 1509 honey locust ct; draper,UT 84020
B. Grogg
Midvale,#6REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, November 20, 2008
More false claims and slander against Bruce Grogg. You are welcome to check with the City, State and Federal to see that what this person says is completely and utterly untrue and it is slander against Bruce Grogg.
Kevin
Salt Lake City,#7Consumer Comment
Thu, November 13, 2008
I worked at acentus and i find it amusing that you are the main contact for all of the google releases? Your just as at fault as Dan smith. and i think its funny that you puff your chest about calling your attorney. David Reese? He's your attorney now for this new scam called Fortuna? You are all crooks and i wouldn't be surprised if you and dan smith are still stealing money from people! I HOPE YOU LOSE EVERYTHING, HOUSE, KIDS, EVERYTHING FOR STEALING PEOPLES MONEY!!!!
B. Grogg
Midvale,#8REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, November 06, 2008
These are false, slanderous, and damaging accusations that are completely untrue. I never owned, was an officer, partner, held any control, or anything else with Acentus...I was hired to run their media company that created their ads for them, but even the media company was wholly owned by them. How and why you would falsely accuse me of being part of their dealings and then slander my name and say that I am a "wanted criminal"??? And then go on to slander the company I work for now is criminal and I have contacted my attorney to take legal action if necessary to clear my name. Please do your research, there were only "three" owners of Acentus and all their other companies...Dan Smith, Kathryn Merritt, and an attorney firm (which I was not a part of either).