Complaint Review: Chuck Van Horn Dodge - Plymouth Wisconsin

Aside from the rebuttal arguments (you know what they say about arguing on the internet, right?) it's likely that sales tax, title fee, license fee & prep fee added up to $7,500. The sales tax alone (assuming only 5.1%) is about $350. Add $75 for plates, another $50ish for title and $200 prep fee (typical) totals $7,475. If Plymouth is part of the stadium sales tax district, that adds another 0.5%. So in reality, the OP didn't do their own math, not that the dealership was trying to rip them off.

Aside from the rebuttal arguments (you know what they say about arguing on the internet, right?) it's likely that sales tax, title fee, license fee & prep fee added up to $7,500. The sales tax alone (assuming only 5.1%) is about $350. Add $75 for plates, another $50ish for title and $200 prep fee (typical) totals $7,475. If Plymouth is part of the stadium sales tax district, that adds another 0.5%. So in reality, the OP didn't do their own math, not that the dealership was trying to rip them off.

I have read my own posts. I quoted the OP when she said the staff was standing in front of the door to prevent her from leaving. I merely advised her that if that was the case, that would constitute kidnapping (which it would). I already posted above that it is not possible to "steal" a car from a dealer. The dealer always has the option to say no, just as the customer SHOULD have the option to get up and walk away if the deal doesn't meet their expectations. Stupid dealer tactics like blocking doors, holding keys and licenses are not part of a fair negotiation. They are meant to indimidate those with less assertive personalities. Where did you get the bizarre idea that I'm disgruntled because I unsuccessfully tried to "steal" a car from a dealer? Your imagination is working overtime. I have worked at dealerships and have some family members in the business. I know how the game works. I haven't bought (or attempted to buy) a car at a dealership in years. There are much better options if you need a car. Nice try, though.

I have read my own posts. I quoted the OP when she said the staff was standing in front of the door to prevent her from leaving. I merely advised her that if that was the case, that would constitute kidnapping (which it would). I already posted above that it is not possible to "steal" a car from a dealer. The dealer always has the option to say no, just as the customer SHOULD have the option to get up and walk away if the deal doesn't meet their expectations. Stupid dealer tactics like blocking doors, holding keys and licenses are not part of a fair negotiation. They are meant to indimidate those with less assertive personalities. Where did you get the bizarre idea that I'm disgruntled because I unsuccessfully tried to "steal" a car from a dealer? Your imagination is working overtime. I have worked at dealerships and have some family members in the business. I know how the game works. I haven't bought (or attempted to buy) a car at a dealership in years. There are much better options if you need a car. Nice try, though.

I have read my own posts. I quoted the OP when she said the staff was standing in front of the door to prevent her from leaving. I merely advised her that if that was the case, that would constitute kidnapping (which it would). I already posted above that it is not possible to "steal" a car from a dealer. The dealer always has the option to say no, just as the customer SHOULD have the option to get up and walk away if the deal doesn't meet their expectations. Stupid dealer tactics like blocking doors, holding keys and licenses are not part of a fair negotiation. They are meant to indimidate those with less assertive personalities. Where did you get the bizarre idea that I'm disgruntled because I unsuccessfully tried to "steal" a car from a dealer? Your imagination is working overtime. I have worked at dealerships and have some family members in the business. I know how the game works. I haven't bought (or attempted to buy) a car at a dealership in years. There are much better options if you need a car. Nice try, though.

You obviously are of those people who tried stealing a vehicle from a dealer and couldn't get it done, so you're bitter. All the OP said was that someone was standing by the door, you took it to another level and accussed the dealer of kidnapping, saying she was being held against her will. Again, anytime someone doesn't get what they want they come to this site and cry about it. There are a few ligitimate complaints, but for the most they are just rediculous storys from people like you who couldn't steal a vehicle from a poor unsuspecting dealer.

I believe it was the OP that claimed that the sales staff attempted to block her exit from the room. I see you think that holding someone's keys or license is not such a bad thing. Those tactics are the last resort of someone who can't close a deal legitimately. Your sleaze is showing, Jim :-)

I'm not trying to sell you anything (You would probably offer me half of my asking price anyway). Delaying someone's keys and drivers license is a far cry from kidnapping which is what you accused the dealer of doing in your first post.

You sound like a car salesman. Steal a car from a dealer? Give me a break. I've spent some time around dealerships and have no trouble believing that these salesmen tried the intimidation tactics described. I'm not dumb enough to believe it never happens. This tactic is similar to the one where the sales staff keeps the keys to your car or keeps your drivers license in an attempt to keep you from walking out the door. It happens all the time and the reason it does is because it works. People who are not assertive will often cave in to a lousy deal if they feel they can't leave.

Flynnrider, I'm amazed you actually believe these people. Anytime they can't get want they want and steal a car drom the dealer they come to this site and make up these ridiculous storys. And you're dumb enough to believe them. Believe me, no one is ever going to hold someone against their will in any office at any dealership!!!!!!

"Bob and the finance person positioned themselves near the door so I could not get up and leave the office." This is a sleazy tactic and easily countered. Whenever a salesman tries to physically prevent you from leaving, just whip out your cell phone and call the police. I can assure you that they'll let you go before you start dialing. Attempting to physically hold you in the room is technically kidnapping and they know it.